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The (New) Twilight Zone - Surprise: Its shit
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While I don't really think the new series is any good, the ideal of a politically motivated Twilight Zone isn't that hard to believe. Rod Serling after all was the man who wrote a (unfilmed) script where the North Pole gets commandeered to manufacture bombs and poison gas for the military-industrial complex, and elf gets hit by shrapnel in an accident, and Santa takes a bullet flying his route on Christmas Eve. His politics just happen to align pretty well with the people who like the show.
Childish Gambino is a bit smarter than people think. This video is pretty much saying "This is America. Shit's fucked up and violent. Why work for anything when I can just take it?" Its actually pretty profound and pretty openly shows a contrast between (older) inner city types trying to go legit and the younger inner city kids who'd rather be thugs, party, get that dough and gun down anyone who annoys them. That shot at the end can be read a couple of different ways, but I think the idea is he's running from the authorities at the end because crime doesn't pay in the long term and sooner or later the police will catch up and beat your ass. Either that or he's just trying to get away from it all.
I don't think its that woke. Also doesn't seem to take itself too seriously either.
Childish Gambino is a bit smarter than people think. This video is pretty much saying "This is America. Shit's fucked up and violent. Why work for anything when I can just take it?" Its actually pretty profound and pretty openly shows a contrast between (older) inner city types trying to go legit and the younger inner city kids who'd rather be thugs, party, get that dough and gun down anyone who annoys them. That shot at the end can be read a couple of different ways, but I think the idea is he's running from the authorities at the end because crime doesn't pay in the long term and sooner or later the police will catch up and beat your ass. Either that or he's just trying to get away from it all.
I don't think its that woke. Also doesn't seem to take itself too seriously either.
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Trouble is in this day and age political content is always done poorly, beating you over the head with the point and the points are always evil bullshit like "men are evil"
I liked This Is America too though.
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It's not a bad song.
I just don't get the message or what he's going for other than "'merica's shit", which yeah certain parts of this country are pretty shit, but still.
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Generally I've found I can enjoy works with political message that I even find totally outrageous if its clear that the author really, genuinely believes in the politics behind it, no matter how ridiculous their beliefs may be. There are a couple of flat-out misandrist works out there I find interesting to read because the author crafts a world that is just such a fucking uncomfortable nightmare to think about even if its completely impossible. Same with some racist works, etc. The right one can really put you into the mindset of someone who actually feels that way and for me that's pretty damn chilling when it works. Then again, maybe I can tolerate that point of view because I'm a horror fan.
Politics become fucking annoying in a work when its clear the author is just dumping shit in because people are currently talking about it. They either have a cursory understanding of the issue or they lack the requisite paranoid insanity to mold their batshit madness into a compelling read.
Serling was a very emotional and political man, and you could tell he was deeply troubled by some of the shit he saw both in WW2 and in society, but he distilled that anxiety in his writings and made very relatable stories from it. Even some episodes that are flat-out fucking ridiculous, like the one with the slot machine, still really bother me because you can just feel the progression from a mundane situation to a terrifying neurosis. I chose that episode as an example since its based on an experience where he and his wife went to Vegas to celebrate the show's renewal, a while she was having fun winning at cards he lost a bunch of money to a slot machine he got stuck to. Sometimes his stories were really petty like that, but they would still work because you could relate to what was happening very easily.
Politics become fucking annoying in a work when its clear the author is just dumping shit in because people are currently talking about it. They either have a cursory understanding of the issue or they lack the requisite paranoid insanity to mold their batshit madness into a compelling read.
Serling was a very emotional and political man, and you could tell he was deeply troubled by some of the shit he saw both in WW2 and in society, but he distilled that anxiety in his writings and made very relatable stories from it. Even some episodes that are flat-out fucking ridiculous, like the one with the slot machine, still really bother me because you can just feel the progression from a mundane situation to a terrifying neurosis. I chose that episode as an example since its based on an experience where he and his wife went to Vegas to celebrate the show's renewal, a while she was having fun winning at cards he lost a bunch of money to a slot machine he got stuck to. Sometimes his stories were really petty like that, but they would still work because you could relate to what was happening very easily.
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Yeah, unless you want to be angry at Lena Dunham for being her usual self i wouldn't bother. But my wife liked the show so I saw a lot of it. The scene with Donald Glover surprised me because usually Lena Dunham isn't that self aware. As it turned out, she didn't write his dialog in that scene, she isn't self aware.
I read an interview with her where she talked about that, like it eventually dawned on her that Donald was talking to her, and she called him or texted him to ask if he really meant what he said.
Fuck it, here's the actual quotes instead of my poorly remembered version:
When she breaks up with him, he responds by mocking her white privilege: “Oh, I’m a white girl, and I moved to New York and I’m having a great time, and, Oh, I’ve got a fixed-gear bike, and I’m going to date a black guy and we’re going to go to a dangerous part of town”.
She also said she “e-mailed him later to say ‘I hope you feel the part on Girls didn’t tokenise you,’” and that Glover’s response “was really Donald-y and enigmatic: ‘Let’s not think back on mistakes we made in the past, let’s just focus on what lies in front of us.’”
Donald's character was also a black conservative, I have to assume so Lena could claim the moral high ground despite being a racist.
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Honestly, given how the boy's parents are depicted as being totally spineless when it comes to setting boundaries for their child, it makes sense that he'd be emotionally stunted.
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This series fucking disappeared fast, didn’t it?
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But I enjoy being black.
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Most propaganda tends to do so since it's connected to a very limited time and space. And if all you have to say is "Whitey Bad!" then it gets old fast. At least back in the 80s and 90s, if you wanted to say that an obviously bad thing (like Nuclear War) was obviously bad, you had to be clever with it. Like have a show where a woman is living in a time of imminent Nuclear War, but she blows off all news of it, choosing to bury her head in the sand about the issue. Then she gets a magical trinket that stops time and uses it to steal things and play around, until the Nuclear war that she has been ignoring all of this time finally happens and she uses the trinket to stop time.--but since the missiles are hovering just above her house, she can never unstop time without destroying everything, leaving her to live out the rest of her life alone in a world that might as well be dead because time can never move forward in it again... Gee, wouldn't it be nice to have a version of the Twilight one that had an episode like that?
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I saw that episode when it first aired and it's haunted me ever since
Jordan Peele's Twilight Zone is sanctimonious preachy crap no one will remember in 5 years.
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It got renewed for a second season.
There's little to no info other than episode titles, writers, directors, and actors. Apparently, Jordan Peele HIMSELF is going to Rod Serling it and write an episode himself.
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I actually liked it better than the original series episode it was based on
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It's a sign of a bad reboot when it has to have the past kiss its ass. (See Thundercats Roar)
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The "stop talking"/"start talking" episode? I think that was the first episode of the 1980s Twilight Zone I saw and probably the most memorable other than perhaps "Button, Button", based on a short story by Richard Matheson which was also the basis of the Cameron Diaz movie The Box.
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You know a series is total trash when a jovial, agreeable "fandom" YouTuber like Robert Meyer Burnett flat out says it's no good. He's a fairly leftist, "progressive" guy (his Twitter feed is painful) who works in the entertainment industry and clearly doesn't want to burn bridges, but in a recent livestream he mentioned how disappointing the new Twilight Zone was and how bad the writing is.
The only other currently airing shows I've heard him unreservedly disparage like that are Star Trek: Discovery and Star Trek: Picard. Which he does, frequently and at length. (It's so satisfying.)
The only other currently airing shows I've heard him unreservedly disparage like that are Star Trek: Discovery and Star Trek: Picard. Which he does, frequently and at length. (It's so satisfying.)
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He recently interviewed his friend Bryan Fuller and also David A Goodman (writer/producer on a lot of shows including the later seasons of ENT and The Orville). I'm glad that his channel is growing.
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Both of which were great interviews. His interviews with Barbara Crampton and Melissa Snodgrass were pretty great, too.
The entire concept of "fandom" is giga-cringe personified, and, if I'm honest, I'm growing weary of the "Fandom Menace" side of YouTube. But, his politics aside (and excepting some of the atrocious "social justice" bullshit articles he reads on his show), Burnett is a knowledgeable, professional, and likable guy who I'm glad I found on YouTube. He puts out a lot of good stuff.