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Can confirm it's completely broken in Virginia. The cops in my county are in full on IDGAF mode. They are driving around letting people know they still exist, but with the courts shutdown they arent doing shit unless its egregious. They also arent doing shit about people not social distancing. The local park is "closed" by order of the governor. There is a sign and everything. And its full to capacity with people walking around, having picnics, exercising and so on. By order of the governor you also have to wear a mask when in the State run liquor stores. Do the workers inside give a shit? Nope. Besides, what would they do if they called the cops on you for not wearing a mask? The same cops who dont give a shit about everything else?

I think the most fascinating thing to come out of this is that the only States in the country who had full top to bottom adherence to central dictates were New York and California. Not even Washington State and Oregon hit those levels of authoritarianism, and effort to truly enforce them on an unwilling population in Main and Michigan have both States on the verge of revolt.

Yeah, here in CA at the beginning. Now there are northern/rural counties that are breaking free. Coastal CA from Marin County down are very blue and they believe our state's fuhrer. But there are many individual exceptions to that. Our area is a resort area and has been hit very hard economically. The only newspaper I read online, a weekly thing, has been unrelenting in their criticism of the county "health director". Yet the "board of supervisors" still supports this clown, saying there'll be 33,000 cases when we haven't even 1% of that number.

Article makes a big deal about 300,000 dead soon. In other words, just under two days' deaths world wide from all causes. When things are put into perspective you see the truth. But the MSM just keeps fearmongering. Things are heating up in Russia. Believe the situation will get much worse there very soon, as the ChiCom Flu races through those apartment blocks.


 
You are so fucking wrong. Alright time for a rant. Because why.

Reason the metric system caught on so quickly is, as @Overly Serious explained. CONSISTENCY. Weight goes in grams. Volume liters. Distance meters. Grams turn to miligrams, or kilograms. Liters turn to mililiters or kiloleters. Meters into kilometers or milimeters. Etc. When factored by 1000. This isn't just intuitive. It isn't just easy. It is SOUND from a mathematical perspective. If everything has the same equations all you need to do is find a constant and you'll get the equivalence. Passing volume to distance is easy, passing weight to volume also easy, etc.

When using different units, like centimeters, milimeters, etc. All you need is to multiply or divide x10^whatever. This is very. Very. Very easy to do. And even then we keep forgeting the factors because humans are, by nature, dunces.

Using imperial system weight, distance, etc. All have their own fucking constants for every step around the way. If you got 0.3m you got 3dm or 30cm. See how that work? If you got 0.3f you got 3.6inches. And note how I had to use a .x there. That means I'd now have to go check what's the smaller version of inches and multiply that by that factor until I had 0f3ixwhateversywhocares.

Sure you can simplify. But you can't actually always simplify in science. And in metric. When we have to expand a little bit. It's just 7.7268471947, in imperial it looks like 7'10''5'''1'''' etc. Which takes more space, adds more constants, and just suuuuucks.

Then how to fix that. Well there are just 2 ways other than being a dick and ignoring the problem. 1 is to just use only inches and use 6.86865i and ignore other units. Essentially using metric system but with a different name behind the number just because you want to be obtuse. Second option is to use leters. In hexadecimal for instance a is 10, b is 11, c is 13, etc. So it could look like 7.a51. But then you have to remembet what kind of decimal you're using on every spot along the chain. And why. Just. WHY.

And this is before the fuckups happen. Because again. Scientist fucks up in metric? All he needs to do is spot where he forgot the conversion and add 10^x there. Easy as fuck, you just gotta move the point back and forth. Scientist forgets units in imperial and he gotta get a fucking calculator to get it to miles. Because you couldn't just make it so the "dot" is the same as the conversion number, no, you had to be fucking special.

And that's before we get into who defines the units. Because as seen in this thread IUs vary depending on what the WHO says that month. I'm sure that won't cause massive issues. Nah that's totally better than just using objective measures like the speed of light in a vacuum. Which don't change based on chinese whims.

I know how obtuse this can get because certain processes change between chemical energy and phisical energy. And one is measured in cals and the other in jules. And then resistances also have different units, etc. And let me tell ya. When you get to that point and now need to remember 3 different fucking conversion factors and check where you left them. Oooooh boy. Boy that's a fucking mess. So I cannot possibly concieve why you'd want to add more of thst shit to the mix. Just to be fucking special.

Also, if american scientists tried changing bsck to imperial they'd actually crash american academic for years while pupils get used to conversion. There's a reason SIs are used. Because when spanish, french, british and german scientists create equations even if the name is fucking weird we can easily get the math. American scientists wanted in on that. And didn't want to remember "wait this was made by a non american so now I gotta factor... let's see. Density? Well then I have to convert both volume and weight that's grams to ounces and liters to galons. Wait no this is density by height to the surface so I also gotta convert meters to feet. Oh wait no I forgot liquid changes density by temperature so on the fifth equation I gotta change celsius to farenheit... yeah that's it. Right? Sp this gives me a pressure of wait how did I have to convert pressure again?" NO ONE WANTS THAT. Literally no one. Systems of measurement are supposed to simplify your life. Not turn a 1 hour project into a 3 day search for the lost city of El Numerado.
If you want me to learn how to count to ten then get the English to start driving on the correct side of the road. That's the only deal you're going to get.
 
If you want me to learn how to count to ten then get the English to start driving on the correct side of the road. That's the only deal you're going to get.

I'm still trying to get people to cooperate on the most basic of the supposedly universal language of maths and you want me to get them to understand why their driving conventions are shit?

 
It seems the damage to morale Germany's lockdown is inflicting is starting to pick up pace. In my experience when the riot police starts charging and protesters start getting violent it means discontent levels have reached max acceleration
Pictures of Riot police beating people up doesnt enrage germans, so its not as critical as in other countries.


only tip I have is our islands have already started accelerating reopening past supposed phase 1 (by which I mean are already practically unofficially reopened) and specially canary islands have opened frontiers to german planes. I know as much for a fact. And the islands generally do as they please so risk of political dumbassery is low at this point, they need tourism asap and will be grateful for it. So it might be a good moment to seek temporary refuge while the worst part of the storm clashes.
'Thats always a good idea, but there is no storm coming. people are just tired of the lockdown and there isnt realy a reason to keep it up.
 
You can go to the park but you can't visit your grandparents because the government can't monitor you to make sure you stay 2m apart from them. So glad we avoided a big state dystopia when that nasty commie Corbyn lost the election to nice libertarian Johnson. We sure dodged a bullet there.

Also why the government didn't lock down the borders at the start but instead locked the natives up their houses.

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills listening to Raab. And the depressing thing is that most Brits seem to want more authoritarian measures and every other party and every journalist (apart from the honourable exceptions of Peter Hitchens and Brendan O'Neill) is complaining that the government didn't impose lockdown sooner, enforced it more harshly and kept it in place for longer.

I guess the only good thing about this shitshow is that if you look at the comments to the video people are highly critical of the lockdown. Still, the political and media class all seem to have decided it's the only viable policy and then anyone who dissents needs to be frozen out.

https://archive.vn/t6i76

 
Pictures of Riot police beating people up doesnt enrage germans, so its not as critical as in other countries.

'Thats always a good idea, but there is no storm coming. people are just tired of the lockdown and there isnt realy a reason to keep it up.

I never thought I'd see a statement so equaly extreme in both how reassuring and worrying it is. I knew germans had a real capacity to take draconian guvernmental action while giving far less of a shit than most countries. But I did not comprehend just how deep that rabithole goes. I'm impressed. And concerned.
 
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Alternative Title: Cuomo admits he killed thousands of Elderly New Yorkers.

He’s really not. His new executive order is Nursing Home Staff must be tested twice weekly. He’s attempting to blame shift and create reasonable doubt. He’s trying to create the narrative that Corona-Chan spread into the nursing homes because of the dirty dirty greedy employees. (Remember he already blamed it on the greed of the nursing homes. And only changed tactics when the nursing homes dumped the receipts of his orders and incompetence.)
 
You are so fucking wrong. Alright time for a rant. Because why.

Reason the metric system caught on so quickly is, as @Overly Serious explained. CONSISTENCY. Weight goes in grams. Volume liters. Distance meters. Grams turn to miligrams, or kilograms. Liters turn to mililiters or kiloleters. Meters into kilometers or milimeters. Etc. When factored by 1000. This isn't just intuitive. It isn't just easy. It is SOUND from a mathematical perspective. If everything has the same equations all you need to do is find a constant and you'll get the equivalence. Passing volume to distance is easy, passing weight to volume also easy, etc.

When using different units, like centimeters, milimeters, etc. All you need is to multiply or divide x10^whatever. This is very. Very. Very easy to do. And even then we keep forgeting the factors because humans are, by nature, dunces.

Using imperial system weight, distance, etc. All have their own fucking constants for every step around the way. If you got 0.3m you got 3dm or 30cm. See how that work? If you got 0.3f you got 3.6inches. And note how I had to use a .x there. That means I'd now have to go check what's the smaller version of inches and multiply that by that factor until I had 0f3ixwhateversywhocares.

Sure you can simplify. But you can't actually always simplify in science. And in metric. When we have to expand a little bit. It's just 7.7268471947, in imperial it looks like 7'10''5'''1'''' etc. Which takes more space, adds more constants, and just suuuuucks.

Then how to fix that. Well there are just 2 ways other than being a dick and ignoring the problem. 1 is to just use only inches and use 6.86865i and ignore other units. Essentially using metric system but with a different name behind the number just because you want to be obtuse. Second option is to use leters. In hexadecimal for instance a is 10, b is 11, c is 13, etc. So it could look like 7.a51. But then you have to remembet what kind of decimal you're using on every spot along the chain. And why. Just. WHY.

And this is before the fuckups happen. Because again. Scientist fucks up in metric? All he needs to do is spot where he forgot the conversion and add 10^x there. Easy as fuck, you just gotta move the point back and forth. Scientist forgets units in imperial and he gotta get a fucking calculator to get it to miles. Because you couldn't just make it so the "dot" is the same as the conversion number, no, you had to be fucking special.

And that's before we get into who defines the units. Because as seen in this thread IUs vary depending on what the WHO says that month. I'm sure that won't cause massive issues. Nah that's totally better than just using objective measures like the speed of light in a vacuum. Which don't change based on chinese whims.

I know how obtuse this can get because certain processes change between chemical energy and phisical energy. And one is measured in cals and the other in jules. And then resistances also have different units, etc. And let me tell ya. When you get to that point and now need to remember 3 different fucking conversion factors and check where you left them. Oooooh boy. Boy that's a fucking mess. So I cannot possibly concieve why you'd want to add more of thst shit to the mix. Just to be fucking special.

Also, if american scientists tried changing bsck to imperial they'd actually crash american academic for years while pupils get used to conversion. There's a reason SIs are used. Because when spanish, french, british and german scientists create equations even if the name is fucking weird we can easily get the math. American scientists wanted in on that. And didn't want to remember "wait this was made by a non american so now I gotta factor... let's see. Density? Well then I have to convert both volume and weight that's grams to ounces and liters to galons. Wait no this is density by height to the surface so I also gotta convert meters to feet. Oh wait no I forgot liquid changes density by temperature so on the fifth equation I gotta change celsius to farenheit... yeah that's it. Right? Sp this gives me a pressure of wait how did I have to convert pressure again?" NO ONE WANTS THAT. Literally no one. Systems of measurement are supposed to simplify your life. Not turn a 1 hour project into a 3 day search for the lost city of El Numerado.
And yet, it wasn't metric that put men on the moon, was it?
 
And yet, it wasn't metric that put men on the moon, was it?

It literally did:

This is the source code of the fucking computer that landed on the god damned moon:

And as is explained here:
The computer literally only works on metric, then converts for the display. Because the programmers and physicists involved in the moon landing used metric, and then hid it, because they knew damned well how much imperial units suck.
 
I would be really interested, after this is all over, to know how many people went to illicit house parties during this thing.




Also, after months of insisting that anyone who didn't want to lock up the world's population for years on end was a monster who wanted to sacrifice grandmothers to Goldman Sachs, the mainstream media is now starting to question aspects of the lockdown -





I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but it's amazing how like a week and half ago Georgia was going to murder their entire population by doing some limited reopening, and now this is happening -


 
I would be really interested, after this is all over, to know how many people went to illicit house parties during this thing.




Also, after months of insisting that anyone who didn't want to lock up the world's population for years on end was a monster who wanted to sacrifice grandmothers to Goldman Sachs, the mainstream media is now starting to question aspects of the lockdown -





I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but it's amazing how like a week and half ago Georgia was going to murder their entire population by doing some limited reopening, and now this is happening -



Here in spain we recently had an illicit Gypsy wedding ceremony and it was glorious. For those that don't know. Gypsy weddings are... Big. Like literal hundreds of gypsies broke quarantine for that shit. It was absolutely hilarious to see when the cops arrived to disperse them. This literal human sea of ignorance and stupidity just oh I wish I could find the video now. Point is, I don't really know. But if even over here we got a few cases with parties, and one of them that large, over there where people don't give a shit I'm expecting a lot more.
 
I think the most fascinating thing to come out of this is that the only States in the country who had full top to bottom adherence to central dictates were New York and California. Not even Washington State and Oregon hit those levels of authoritarianism, and effort to truly enforce them on an unwilling population in Main and Michigan have both States on the verge of revolt.

It's because affluent urbanites are cucks who are scared of their own shadow. You think it's a coincidence that the two states with the most obedience contain the two biggest urban areas in the US?

*Edit* No new cases again here today. Only 14 active cases. Still just three dead. Government released projection back in late March/early April that showed in a best case scenario 30% of province gets infected and health care system gets overwhelmed by November. That didn't happen. Now they won't shut up about a second wave with no explanation of where it can even come from as we are and island and they have barred entry to everyone but residents and essential workers and everyone has to isolate for 14 days upon entering the province. They are scaling back the lockdown today, lifting the limit of gatherings like funerals from five to ten and allowing stuff like stand alone garden centres and golf courses to open. Of course, Wal-Mart has a garden centre of its own and they never placed any restrictions on what stores that were allowed to remain open could sell, so the opening of stand alone garden centres makes very little difference to your average person.

Hundreds of crab fishermen staged a protest at the union office today, not adhering to social distancing. The price of seafood is in the toilet due to the pandemic and to top it off, the government cut quotas and enacted trip limits of 1,500 pounds weekly. This means if you have a quota of 5,000 pounds of crab, you can't just go out and catch it all in one trip, you have to make four trips over four weeks, making the entire enterprise unfeasible because you still have to pay your crew and buy fuel for your boat and 1,500 pounds of crab will only gross you $4,530, barely covering the cost of a trip. So fishermen want the season to be called off this year and to be given money to sit at home. Under the legislation the fishermen should be fined, but government won't do it because they know it's a fucking powder keg and they'll end up kicking in the doors of the legislature lol. So the government got pretty publicly cucked by a bunch of fat old crab fishermen over the weekend and have shown they don't have the means or will to enforce the lockdown measures still in place. The entire thing basically just hinges on the honor system.


What a trash fire.
 
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Welp. It finally happened. During phase 1 places like bars were supposed to still impose social distancing rules by separating tables and shit like that. Yeah I also think that made no fucking sense. Anyway. Bars in some areas have been model obedient places and done everything by the book. Bars in seville have said "social what?" And added more tables to take advantage of the flood of customers due to people wanting to go everywhere now they're not locked up. *sad trombone noises.*

Everyone's calling for lift to accelerate. Even though half of them are actually slowing it down compared with the gov guide (because fuck logical consistency) so unless we get hit with the mother of all spikes I expect the gov to stop caring and just throw a brick on the accelerator.
 
It literally did:

This is the source code of the fucking computer that landed on the god damned moon:

And as is explained here:
The computer literally only works on metric, then converts for the display. Because the programmers and physicists involved in the moon landing used metric, and then hid it, because they knew damned well how much imperial units suck.

Ironically, using the Imperial System of units has caused average Americans to do much more math than they would've had they switched over to the Metric System.
 
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