Rick and Morty

[murdered meat bag]

Rick deadpan telling Morty he has to accept the lord Jesus Christ into his heart is unironically funny and doesn't come across as edgy atheist god bashing...

The part on the beach where the story conductor tells Jesus that he's imaginary does come across as edgy atheist god bashing.

Rick prayed to God in "a rickle in time" when the dimensions were collapsing. When God saves him, he's back to nihilistic atheism or whatever.

its a funny character trait.

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

Rick prayed to God in "a rickle in time" when the dimensions were collapsing. When God saves him, he's back to nihilistic atheism or whatever.

its a funny character trait.

Rick wasn't in that post credits scene, though.

 

[Pokemonquistador2]

Rick wasn't in that post credits scene, though.

Yeah. The show itself never took a stance on God/Jesus/The Bible. It only showed Rick showing disdain for those things because he was a science-obsessed, cynical old fedoratipper. It wasn't until the train episode that the story universe itself declared God to be fake.

 

[God of Nothing]

Yeah. The show itself never took a stance on God/Jesus/The Bible. It only showed Rick showing disdain for those things because he was a science-obsessed, cynical old fedoratipper. It wasn't until the train episode that the story universe itself declared God to be fake.

Just couldn't stop tipping that fedora. Everything's gotta be this extremely nihilistic form of Atheism.

nevermind that one alien and its alien afterlife

 

[northstar747]

I checked out that solar opisite show, and it had some funny bits. I agree with most of you guys that it needed alittle less wacky zanny meta, and more normal story structure. Like give the characters some clearly defined traits/personalities maybe have an antagonistic etc. The wall of people was rather fun.

Hell Hulu should poch some of the writters for steven universe

 

[Gar For Archer]

Just couldn't stop tipping that fedora. Everything's gotta be this extremely nihilistic form of Atheism.

nevermind that one alien and its alien afterlife

Ya know, if it weren’t so obvious that the WRITERS were tipping their fedoras, this concept taken to the extreme could actually be pretty funny. Rick could come face-to-face with the literal Big-G God himself and still deny his existence.

 

[Pokemonquistador2]

Ya know, if it weren’t so obvious that the WRITERS were tipping their fedoras, this concept taken to the extreme could actually be pretty funny. Rick could come face-to-face with the literal Big-G God himself and still deny his existence.

They'd have to do something clever with it, like have God be a little girl or homeless man or someone you wouldn't expect. Rick denies their divinity, but a series of weird coincidences happen that mess with Rick's mind and lead him to believe that maybe the person is God. In the end, the show doesn't give an answer, but leaves things ambiguous enough that it can't be proven one way or the other and Rick has to deal with the ambiguity, a question that he can't answer. Because the reality is, you couldn't know if a powerful being who claims to be God really is -they might just be a really powerful alien. You'd need as much faith to believe that a powerful being that you personally witness is God as you would to believe in a God that you never personally met.

What would be really clever is if they had a twist on the St. Elsewhere series ending. Maybe Rick discoveres he's a fictional character and the kid he thinks is his grandson Morty is an autistic child who's been staring at a snowglobe, imagining all of the characters in the series having adventures. Okay, maybe it's not that clever, but it would be certain to generate a lot of salt within the fanbase.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Rick deadpan telling Morty he has to accept the lord Jesus Christ into his heart is unironically funny and doesn't come across as edgy atheist god bashing...

No but it wasn't a funny nor insightful joke either. "Hur Dur Veggie Tales is boring and nobody likes it" isn't exactly the Stone Rick and Morty should be throwing at the moment. Veggie Tales could probably get more laughs out of me than the past 2 episodes of Rick and Morty.

Ya know, if it weren’t so obvious that the WRITERS were tipping their fedoras, this concept taken to the extreme could actually be pretty funny.

Given that Satan exists in Rick and Mortyverse chances are capital G God does.

 

[Shokew]

They'd have to do something clever with it, like have God be a little girl or homeless man or someone you wouldn't expect. Rick denies their divinity, but a series of weird coincidences happen that mess with Rick's mind and lead him to believe that maybe the person is God. In the end, the show doesn't give an answer, but leaves things ambiguous enough that it can't be proven one way or the other and Rick has to deal with the ambiguity, a question that he can't answer. Because the reality is, you couldn't know if a powerful being who claims to be God really is -they might just be a really powerful alien. You'd need as much faith to believe that a powerful being that you personally witness is God as you would to believe in a God that you never personally met.

What would be really clever is if they had a twist on the St. Elsewhere series ending. Maybe Rick discoveres he's a fictional character and the kid he thinks is his grandson Morty is an autistic child who's been staring at a snowglobe, imagining all of the characters in the series having adventures. Okay, maybe it's not that clever, but it would be certain to generate a lot of salt within the fanbase.

No but it wasn't a funny nor insightful joke either. "Hur Dur Veggie Tales is boring and nobody likes it" isn't exactly the Stone Rick and Morty should be throwing at the moment. Veggie Tales could probably get more laughs out of me than the past 2 episodes of Rick and Morty.


Given that Satan exists in Rick and Mortyverse chances are capital G God does.

Agreed, both of you. If The Devil exists, as proven by his he got his shit kicked in for fun in S1, denying God exists is beyond re-tarded. You'd think in a better show, the writers would know better than that dumbass shit by now. Then you remember these writers and the show's creators are infected hard with SJWBS, and well... Yeah. NOPE.

No wonder this show is so easy to bash - it's more proof that when you want something to be worth watching and talking about in a general positive light, you don't just have to care; you NEED to care. Especially about your writing quality - or else, well, look what we're doing here, rather than actually watching and enjoying the show like these asshole writers and creators like to otherwise think we are - UGH, these poor, deluded fools.

 

[OmnipotentStupidity]

What would be really clever is if they had a twist on the St. Elsewhere series ending. Maybe Rick discoveres he's a fictional character and the kid he thinks is his grandson Morty is an autistic child who's been staring at a snowglobe, imagining all of the characters in the series having adventures. Okay, maybe it's not that clever, but it would be certain to generate a lot of salt within the fanbase.

While I would love to see the salt flow from the fanbase over that, they'd probably just postulate on the irony of that kind of ending and how it's so super deep and see it as a scathing criticism of how other shows that totally aren't the rad and cool Reck and Morters would end.

Spoiler: How Would the Show End?

Realistically, I think the only way the show could end in any meaningful way that would be considered satisfying is if it addresses the nihilism of Rick and Morty in the show head-on. The show's already had all of the characters evolve and become disillusioned to the world and events around them (save for Jerry, except even now his one personality trait of being a loser sexless wimp might come undone by season's end if Summer's friend somehow cucks Beth out of her own relationship out of sheer lust), and the characters - Morty especially - have just become so jaded towards Rick's bullshit, that the show is gonna have to end with saccharine trite if it wants to leave any impact or have some form of pathos to it. It gave up the pretenses of being just another regular run-of-the-mill episodic comedy show a long time, and any backpedaling back to that they made after they realized that they can't do character studies worth a damn have been met with endless deep-seeded backlash. Hell we just had an entire episode basically telling fans this, and everyone saw it as a huge slap in the face to those who gave a shit about the show's overarching multi-season plot.

So where else do you go but the one thing the show hasn't completely torn apart yet...or at least not fully torn apart and gutted: C-137 Rick's love for his family (which has been both a strength and weakness throughout the past 4 seasons), either directly or by proxy of this new dimension's versions, or vice versa with Morty's hatred of Rick after having to basically becoming a proto-Rick these past few seasons? And maybe have Rick either come to terms with the fact that even though the universe and life keep kicking them in the dick (the toilet seat episode, Bird-Person's death, the end of Season 3 where instead of leaving the family outright, he still sticks around despite hating everyone), that if you don't have anything left, you're better off dead and that it's better to keep moving to have these experiences in the first place? Or if they wanna go full-on terrible ending: just have Morty finally go from proto-Rick to full-on Rick, have him leave his family and Rick to die, and become just like his grandfather in a "MUH CYCLE OF REVENGE" plot.

Sure it'd be super fucking gay, predictable, and way out of character for the show to do, but it'd at least be something. It would act as some kind of thematic through-line to everything they set up instead of "Life sucks, everyone's awful, and everything's gonna die, the end, fuck you all." But knowing Harmon: he'll probably just pull a Community and having him and Justin monologue over a blank screen and wax poetic about how fantastic and subversive their show is.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

While I would love to see the salt flow from the fanbase over that, they'd probably just postulate on the irony of that kind of ending and how it's so super deep and see it as a scathing criticism of how other shows that totally aren't the rad and cool Reck and Morters would end.

Spoiler: How Would the Show End?

Realistically, I think the only way the show could end in any meaningful way that would be considered satisfying is if it addresses the nihilism of Rick and Morty in the show head-on. The show's already had all of the characters evolve and become disillusioned to the world and events around them (save for Jerry, except even now his one personality trait of being a loser sexless wimp might come undone by season's end if Summer's friend somehow cucks Beth out of her own relationship out of sheer lust), and the characters - Morty especially - have just become so jaded towards Rick's bullshit, that the show is gonna have to end with saccharine trite if it wants to leave any impact or have some form of pathos to it. It gave up the pretenses of being just another regular run-of-the-mill episodic comedy show a long time, and any backpedaling back to that they made after they realized that they can't do character studies worth a damn have been met with endless deep-seeded backlash. Hell we just had an entire episode basically telling fans this, and everyone saw it as a huge slap in the face to those who gave a shit about the show's overarching multi-season plot.

So where else do you go but the one thing the show hasn't completely torn apart yet...or at least not fully torn apart and gutted: C-137 Rick's love for his family (which has been both a strength and weakness throughout the past 4 seasons), either directly or by proxy of this new dimension's versions, or vice versa with Morty's hatred of Rick after having to basically becoming a proto-Rick these past few seasons? And maybe have Rick either come to terms with the fact that even though the universe and life keep kicking them in the dick (the toilet seat episode, Bird-Person's death, the end of Season 3 where instead of leaving the family outright, he still sticks around despite hating everyone), that if you don't have anything left, you're better off dead and that it's better to keep moving to have these experiences in the first place? Or if they wanna go full-on terrible ending: just have Morty finally go from proto-Rick to full-on Rick, have him leave his family and Rick to die, and become just like his grandfather in a "MUH CYCLE OF REVENGE" plot.

Sure it'd be super fucking gay, predictable, and way out of character for the show to do, but it'd at least be something. It would act as some kind of thematic through-line to everything they set up instead of "Life sucks, everyone's awful, and everything's gonna die, the end, fuck you all." But knowing Harmon: he'll probably just pull a Community and having him and Justin monologue over a blank screen and wax poetic about how fantastic and subversive their show is.

I don't think there is a way to finish the show in a good way outside of murdering most of the cast and replacing it midway. The writers just cannot keep track of the character personalities so any resolution that will force the characters to act in a specific way will just collide with half the episodes before it. Rick both has a soft spot to is family and couldn't care less. Morty is both an idiot who gets himself in weird situations and a cynic who learned his lessons. There is also no real stakes anymore, every episode is a bloodbath and Rick died several times already. The premise that there is an infinite amount of universes means every character is replacable so, again, no stakes if they actually kill anyone outside of Rick and Morty.
Though most chances the show will be cancelled anyways one geek culture will cease being a popular thing.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

I found the latest episode to be pretty funny, but I have low standards in humor at times so I don't know if that means anything. Although, now that I turned my brain back on I would like to mention how they just cucked their fanbase out of the possibility of Evil Morty's or Pheonix person & Whats-Her-Name's return.

Leave it to Harmon to start plot threads and then bail at the last minute because he knew he couldn't pull it off or come anywhere close on delivering expectations.

I liked the implication that, by having the idea that the machine they were in "dragged" the story out of them, that the Evil Morty plotline has more or less been obliterated. There have long since been rumblings that there was never an endgame for that and the second use of the character was just supposed to be an easter egg that the fanbase got way worked up over. Out of all of their cynical jabs at the fanbase, that stupid Uber Morty and his army of Rick underlings one was one I was happy to see just smacked to the ground.

I would've so much rather see them crash and burn with the idea. Watching them bail out of it after all that setup is the biggest pussy move imaginable. It's like I'm watching the decline and fall of Spoony, I was promised a FF13-2 review, now all I get are shitty livestreams where Noah doesn't even talk half the time.

 

[GhostButt]

imma be the outlier and say that the evil morty story line was dumb and his lair just knocked off the "delta wave" episode of Futurama.

I like last season's hints that OUR morty's inferiority complex is slowly turning him into a bit of a sadist, hopefully that wasn't just build up for the de-tox episode, I don't remember the episode order.

I know banking on long lasting character development in a harmon production is a waste of brain chemicals but it would be neat to see what could happen if someone who cared* got a word in edgewise in the writers room.

*other than harmon caring about his own ego, that doesn't count, that shit is an all you can eat asian style meat buffet.

 

[BrunoMattei]

I only watched the first 2-3 episodes of season 4, last one I saw was either the Heist episode or the one with Elon Musk (or they were the same episode). You assholes are starting to tempt me to pick this back up.

 

[GhostButt]

I only watched the first 2-3 episodes of season 4, last one I saw was either the Heist episode or the one with Elon Musk (or they were the same episode). You assholes are starting to tempt me to pick this back up.

any of the latest eps are better than that heist episode, that was a sole single note joke dragged out over an entire episode, possibly the worst of the series unless I blocked something godawful out.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

imma be the outlier and say that the evil morty story line was dumb and his lair just knocked off the "delta wave" episode of Futurama.

I like last season's hints that OUR morty's inferiority complex is slowly turning him into a bit of a sadist, hopefully that wasn't just build up for the de-tox episode, I don't remember the episode order.

I know banking on long lasting character development in a harmon production is a waste of brain chemicals but it would be neat to see what could happen if someone who cared* got a word in edgewise in the writers room.

*other than harmon caring about his own ego, that doesn't count, that shit is an all you can eat asian style meat buffet.

I don't think a lot of people here care about Evil Morty but if the writers wanted to throw away the character, why did they reference him in season 3?
Also they could have easily subverted the expectations with evil Morty rather than go with him being a rick in a morty body. Like having evil morty still be barely a match against rick, showing that morty can never ever come close to rick's level

 

[GhostButt]

evil Morty rather than go with him being a rick in a morty body. Like having evil morty still be barely a match against rick, showing that morty can never ever come close to rick's level

If only they weren't trying to avoid time travel they could take it to the "evil morty is all morties eventually, just usually it takes till much later in the mortycycle evilution to happen, much eviler than rick, whose evil is driven by his ego and superiority complex, whereas morty's evil is powered by a need to seek violent revenge over his projected insecurities and need to control other's will, wheras rick can easily dominate other's wills, he stubbornly chooses to elaboratly humiliate them instead, much more healthy, although extremely obsessive" route.

*to back this up I will say to notice that when rick is violent its either just for lol randuum violence badass mcbbq or its a mutual struggle from an attacker, but morty being violent is noted specifically, approaching 4th wall style as"dark." Now, that may just be meant to imply that rick is gaslighting morty like "whoa that act of violence that i replicate myself daily is irrelevant next to your acts, you fucking psycho" so who knows

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

The heist episode was genuinely obnoxious.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

There was also a heist spoof in Community, I don't get why Dan Harmon feels so smug about pointing out tropes that any casual viewer knows are BS but rolls with it anyways.

If only they weren't trying to avoid time travel they could take it to the "evil morty is all morties eventually, just usually it takes till much later in the mortycycle evilution to happen, much eviler than rick, whose evil is driven by his ego and superiority complex, whereas morty's evil is powered by a need to seek violent revenge over his projected insecurities and need to control other's will, wheras rick can easily dominate other's wills, he stubbornly chooses to elaboratly humiliate them instead, much more healthy, although extremely obsessive" route.

*to back this up I will say to notice that when rick is violent its either just for lol randuum violence badass mcbbq or its a mutual struggle from an attacker, but morty being violent is noted specifically, approaching 4th wall style as"dark." Now, that may just be meant to imply that rick is gaslighting morty like "whoa that act of violence that i replicate myself daily is irrelevant next to your acts, you fucking psycho" so who knows

It always seemed obvious to me they want to have evil morty as the OG Morty to hero Rick. Also going for any sort of morality by this point is a lost cause (which is why the last episode fell flat, "we were the bad guys" doesn't work when you already had multiple episodes of the duo being the villains).

 

[Shokew]

People in denial of the truth about this show and what it has become, now:

https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/115008072/#115023232

I should post this on the 4chan thread, but it seemed more appropriate here.
Then again, 4chan obsesses over this show more than they want to admit, so.....