Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[SaidNoOneEver]

A "don't ask don't tell" policy might work if the CEO didn't publicly pick a side.

Correct. That's why those CEO's are now staring at bankruptcy.

The simplest answer is usually the correct one. Barrucci donated to his associate/employee's GFM to show support.

Then Ethan showed up and said "You wanna make money off my paypiggies?" and Barrucci says "Sure. I don't really give a fuck about any of this CG shit but I do like money."

Ethan makes Barrucci a bunch of cash for reprinting a comic no one cared about in the first place and Barrucci decides to monetize ComicsGate. Zub, Pak and the rest don't say shit because they can't afford to be burning bridges in the current environment.

Welcome to free market capitalist economics. Would you like to buy this shiny trinket I have for sale? No? OK.

I'm guessing Barrucci is "friends" with people who help him pay the rent. That would include Waid, Simone and EVS.

Who gives a shit who's friends with who? If you don't like who his friends are then don't buy his shiny trinket either. Problem solved.

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

Does anyone have any reactions from Edwin Boyette or Smiller?

Stumbled across this gem from January 2020. They think killing #WARCAMPAIGN is the key.

LORD CAESAR COMICSGATUS CALIGULA on Twitter

“These Edwin Boyette acolytes sit in private DM groups and scheme and recruit to deplatform and destroy me. They use language about “promoting good comics” to seem virtuous, but they’re snakes. They think killing #WARCAMPAIGN is the key. Pathetic. Just be #ComicsGate guys. 🐸🤷‍♂️”

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[Newman's Own]

Correct. That's why those CEO's are now staring at bankruptcy.




Welcome to free market capitalist economics. Would you like to buy this shiny trinket I have for sale? No? OK.




Who gives a shit who's friends with who? If you don't like who his friends are then don't buy his shiny trinket either. Problem solved.

You seem to think we're in disagreement here.

We aren't.

 

[A nameless trool]

The "Creator's Page" for Dynamite Entertainment is a like a Rogue's Gallery of everybody you should hate as a good l'il CG'er. If his followers are going along with that, and they apparently are, why not this?

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I'm honestly a little surprised Dynamite isn't getting a shitstorm of hate from Anti-CG, that they dared to reach out to EVS in the first place, a crew like that on staff.

Edit: Jai Nitz? Really? Wow.

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EVS mentioned in a livestream (no, cannot find it) that the owner of Dynamite was getting digs from various pros in a convention, telling him "will you buy us dinner/drinks with all those CG money?"
There is a huge difference between YBZ/Antarctic/Alterna and Dynamite. Dynamite is big enough to employ some of these people and angering its boss can lead to being blacklisted from one of the top 5 employers.
Erik Larsen has been doing some over the top sexualized issues in Savage Dragon a couple years ago, but no 'SJW' dared say a thing, because getting blacklisted from Image is something they do not dare.

'SJWs' are narcissists, bullies and a big part of their activism is performative in order to appease some hardline higher-ups. If the bosses of Marvel and/or DC go full on with Trump, most of them will shut the fuck up and pretend everything is ok.

 

[Newman's Own]

Stumbled across this gem from January 2020. They think killing #WARCAMPAIGN is the key.

LORD CAESAR COMICSGATUS CALIGULA on Twitter

“These Edwin Boyette acolytes sit in private DM groups and scheme and recruit to deplatform and destroy me. They use language about “promoting good comics” to seem virtuous, but they’re snakes. They think killing #WARCAMPAIGN is the key. Pathetic. Just be #ComicsGate guys. 🐸🤷‍♂️”

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That red faced guy is Jean Luc. He was a WarCampaign hanger on and Edwin's enemy at Indiecron. Was he plotting against WC in January October?

Something doesn't add up here.

 

[Starscreams Cape]

That red faced guy is Jean Luc. He was a WarCampaign hanger on and Edwin's enemy at Indiecron. Was he plotting against WC in January October?

Something doesn't add up here.

That Jean Luc is a shadowy figure. I have never been able to determine exactly which side he's on, though to be fair I haven't looked that far into it.

 

[A nameless trool]

Btw here's a theory/prediction I have:
Let's say we have a company like Valliant. They have a shared universe created in the 90's. They tried going to Holywood, with a mediocre movie that the Wuhan cough killed dead on its tracks. They hired Heather Antos to poach them some Marvel talent: she brought in some C-listers and fans are furious over her treatment of heavyweights like X-O Manowar.

Now, in 2021 they are becoming desperate. They are bleeding money and the market is going downhill. They have to revive some 90's AF properties like X-O Manowar, Bloodshot and Shadowman. And who is making good bucks out of 90's homages?
Yes, YBZ.
Now, 2017 YBZ was a shitlord youtuber making everybody in the industry angry. 2020 YBZ is an indie publisher/public persona who worked with Sylvester Stalone, has a proven track record of successful crowdfunded projects, a team of former pros working with him and a loyal fanbase.
I wouldn't be surprised if, by 2022, we see some of the CGers going to second tier companies as imprints/universe architects. A Chuck Dixon Bloodshot would sell quite well. Hell, a Blake Northcott Faith could sell.

The only law is money and they can bring it.

Now, leave the "autistic" reactions below.

PS: Just finished AZ/Zack livestream. It was a great experience compared to the autismfest of current CG livestreams.

 

[Newman's Own]

That Jean Luc is a shadowy figure. I have never been able to determine exactly which side he's on, though to be fair I haven't looked that far into it.

The guy was a snake. Wouldn't surprise me if he was playing both sides against the middle.

 

[Starscreams Cape]

The guy was a snake. Wouldn't surprise me if he was playing both sides against the middle.

That's kind of what I thought. If I recall he made it on an early EVS livestream as a panel guest.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

This is a little tricky, and I think it complicates a lot of things. It certainly questions the future of CG if it follows it's current direction towards closer (or perhaps more open) ties with Dynamite, and also its narrative about fighting the SJWs. It also means @FROG now has to justify his claims that Dynamite are CG-Neutral, when patently they are not.

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Wasn't dynamite employees talked about fighting zack at nycc.

 

[El Jagre]

Btw here's a theory/prediction I have:
Let's say we have a company like Valliant. They have a shared universe created in the 90's. They tried going to Holywood, with a mediocre movie that the Wuhan cough killed dead on its tracks. They hired Heather Antos to poach them some Marvel talent: she brought in some C-listers and fans are furious over her treatment of heavyweights like X-O Manowar.

Now, in 2021 they are becoming desperate. They are bleeding money and the market is going downhill. They have to revive some 90's AF properties like X-O Manowar, Bloodshot and Shadowman. And who is making good bucks out of 90's homages?
Yes, YBZ.
Now, 2017 YBZ was a shitlord youtuber making everybody in the industry angry. 2020 YBZ is an indie publisher/public persona who worked with Sylvester Stalone, has a proven track record of successful crowdfunded projects, a team of former pros working with him and a loyal fanbase.
I wouldn't be surprised if, by 2022, we see some of the CGers going to second tier companies as imprints/universe architects. A Chuck Dixon Bloodshot would sell quite well. Hell, a Blake Northcott Faith could sell.

The only law is money and they can bring it.

Now, leave the "autistic" reactions below

Depends on how well the Lawsuit goes I guess. I'm pretty sure even though Waid has influence, the fact that there are multiple stories about him leads me to believe that people in the industry actually do want him out but they can't speak up because Waid will just label them an alt-right nazi for going again him, and he's somehow still got the clout to do so.

 

[Newman's Own]

That's kind of what I thought. If I recall he made it on an early EVS livestream as a panel guest.

He did a tun of streams with WC I think, Clint too. And it was "Hail WarCampaign everywhere he went." I heard he was actually American and faked the accent but that might be bullshit.

He appears to be against EVS and WC hear but I'm not sure I buy that.

A snake.

 

[KingofNothing]

Anna's still useful. Her YT audience is arguably more useful than the liability that WC has become.

If they're not photoshopping people onto dildos and pornographic images and spamming them at people, I'd say it's a step up already

The simplest answer is usually the correct one. Barrucci donated to his associate/employee's GFM to show support.

Then Ethan showed up and said "You wanna make money off my paypiggies?" and Barrucci says "Sure. I don't really give a fuck about any of this CG shit but I do like money."

Ethan makes Barrucci a bunch of cash for reprinting a comic no one cared about in the first place and Barrucci decides to monetize ComicsGate. Zub, Pak and the rest don't say shit because they can't afford to be burning bridges in the current environment.

I'm guessing Barrucci is "friends" with people who help him pay the rent. That would include Waid, Simone and EVS.

So what you're saying is that Barrucci is an actual adult just trying to make money over comics and not getting into petty internet slapfights over them? The industry could use more guys with that mindset

 

[Newman's Own]

Depends on how well the Lawsuit goes I guess. I'm pretty sure even though Waid has influence, the fact that there are multiple stories about him leads me to believe that people in the industry actually do want him out but they can't speak up because Waid will just label them an alt-right nazi for going again him, and he's somehow still got the clout to do so.

Waid's got the comics media on his side but I'm not sure that's enough clout to make a difference.

EDIT: Here's some speculation. WarCampaign has control over whose face goes on the head of the degenerate centipede on Cecil's comic.

Why wouldn't they make it Ethan's face now?

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

Waid's got the comics media on his side but I'm not sure that's enough clout to make a difference.

EDIT: Here's some speculation. WarCampaign has control over whose face goes on the head of the degenerate centipede on Cecil's comic.

Why wouldn't they make it Ethan's face now?

I doubt Cecil would change it.

 

[Mister Dongs]

I think Preston being defeated so utterly was actually a tactical mistake on Ethan and Comicsgates behalf, I'll elaborate further below.

Since its inception Comicsgate has been operating in a somewhat militaristic fashion. It produces propaganda (meme's) to both denigrate it's enemies and uplift it's own heroes. Comicsgate's economy is a war time economy, most of the IGG campaigns are funded as spite campaigns, whether sticking it to the SJWs or Doug TenNapel and not so much on the merit of the works themselves. The flow of funds within CG rely constantly on an external enemy existing for the promotion of these campaigns, which could be considered war bonds, you invest money in scraps of paper (comicbooks) in the hopes that you score a victory in the culture war in your side's favor. CG has always had constant enemies, originally the SJW mainstream, then Vox Day and his minions, now it is "ex,anti,OG-CG" comprised of former members and exiles.

I agree with your conclusion, but disagree regarding the reasons so. Comicsgate at its inception is an inherently reactionary consumer movement, formed in opposition to practices and behavior made by the establishment comics industry as well as low-quality product, lack of freedom of expression, etc. Guys like Vox Day are the purest expression of this, trying to form a movement based on extreme right-wing politics in comics as a direct reaction to perceived extreme leftist content in the mainstream. The problem with "reactionary elements" is that while they have the advantage of being chock full of motivation and are easily comprehended, there is no guiding framework to construct consistent and applicable ideas to challenge the existing order with. There is also the additional problem of reactionaries easily slipping into outright tribalism where competing parties fight one another simply because they're parties competing for resources.

Lots of people in Comicsgate who aren't able or interested in taking philosophical stances or working with ideas prefer to show their support by reacting against individuals that oppose their group. But as the inherent contradictions, unanswered questions (like taking over the mainstream after it's already collapsed from COVID) and mutually exclusive positions held by CG figures became harder to avoid, Preston was the one of the last few figures who could provide a distraction for these much more relevant problems. And even then he was one that smarter people in Comicsgate preferred to avoid because of his inconvenient habit of surrounding himself in uncomfortable facts and ideas regarding Comicsgate. But as Micah Curtis once answered when asked why Warcampaign is an asset, he shouted "Man, they named Preston Poulter 'Pocket Pussy'! They put that on him! We need those guys to keep us safe from the enemies at the gate!".

Also Liam is mad at me after me and Frog started hypothesizing about the next supervillain of CG on his show and how we hope it's Liam because that would be entertaining, and is withholding content on his show now because we're not taking Comicsgate seriously. I think we're working it out.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

Waid's got the comics media on his side but I'm not sure that's enough clout to make a difference.

EDIT: Here's some speculation. WarCampaign has control over whose face goes on the head of the degenerate centipede on Cecil's comic.

Why wouldn't they make it Ethan's face now?

Or Cecil could just give them a refund and sell it to someone else. I'm surprised that hasn't happened already if this was real.

 

[SuiSui1]

this talk of cecil and Crash Grab makes me remember what could have been.

 

[Comicsgeist]

EVS has effectively bulldozed the field of any kind of internal opposition, at least for now. The only oppostion we might see here is a dawning realization from the "smaller creators/peasants" (to channel WC) that the CG pie is only so big and most of it is gonna go to no more than five or so creators....

A month ago I said this on the other thread when all this began to brew....

If I were inclined to be conspiratorial and actually credited any of the players involved with an IQ high enough to be Machiavellian, as opposed to just spiteful, I'd wonder if all this drama wasn't being used to clean house, why let a crisis go to waste?
EVS has been talking about a lot of 'big pro's!' coming on board, which suggests that we have achieved peace in our time, but now the generals need to slay the dogs of war, which have outlived their usefulness, and make the community safe for the influx so that Image 2.0 can commence.

The drama we all want to see is a split between YBZ and EVS, of course. Don't see that one ever happening, though.

I have to say, EVS has played the purge well. Now he's desperate for YaBoi to grace his show so that the audience calling for Zack can see that Comicsgae is fully united behind Ethan. He doesn't sound hopeful that Zack will nut up.
I guess we'll see in 2-3 days if Zack shows up to close out his Jawbreakers campaign on Ethan's show.
It might just be a coincidence, but Zack chose to go on HeelVsBabyFace's channel for a 3hr livestream to promote his book yesterday. That sort of felt like a message.

 

[Caradoc Rexious]

That red faced guy is Jean Luc. He was a WarCampaign hanger on and Edwin's enemy at Indiecron. Was he plotting against WC in January October?

Something doesn't add up here.

I thought that, Jean Luc is British and those DMs don't follow his speak patterns or the way he writes on Twitter