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Um...then why did EVS always support CashGrab? It doesn't get much more 'dated' than that.

TBH, it's pretty simple. "Let Cecil grab your cash." - direct quote from EVS from one of his livestreams. The original premise was lost, and the book is no longer where the original intent was, but rather that it's become a literal excuse for Cecil to scam by embodying the namesake.
 
Um...then why did EVS always support CashGrab? It doesn't get much more 'dated' than that.

It's not so much 'dated' as a facile, self-insert.... cashgrab, the Dirtworm Doug ashcan shit counts as dated, but what do you want? Consistancy from a man who's as flighty as a teenage girl?
He supports it because Cecil one of the backbones of filling endless hours of livestreaming every day on his show, so he wants to throw him some cash to grab. It's not that hard to figure out.
 
Your original post was that Croatia was allied with the Axis belligerants... what do you think Japan was doing during that time? Before they decided to appropriate Brooklyn dago culture I mean.

Anyway, the feminazi frequency fraudster already took a swipe at Mario to no avail. Some things you just can't get people mad about. Like how there is still no decent way to reheat French Fries.

The closest I've gotten is with a foreman grill.
My original point was that there are quite a few far right people in Croatia even today.
 
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I used to think that Ethan was just worried about CG (and by extension him) getting tagged with the "Alt-right" label, but now, having observed his behavior for two years I just think he was jealous of a guy who's as good or better an artist than him and can also meet his deadlines. Sidenote: Tim's relationship with Antarctic probably didn't help after the Jawbreakers debacle.

Nah, Richard has said on numerous occasions political pamphlets are bad. He defended Thump on grounds its a parody.
Lim's stuff is self limiting. The issue arose when Frog came in and kept saying he thought Thump's books weren't CG. Lim responded by holding one hell of a grudge and trying to sabotage Frog before being exiled.

The Antarctic situation is a whole other can of worms.

Basically the company was life support before it brought on Lim. He provided the introduction to Richard. I forgot where, but they talked about discovery where they needed cash and thought Richard would be Lim 2.0. Antarctic has suffered the price of being Waid's bitch. Their books don't sell shit and e-thots with big audiences are wary because Antarctic caved before. Dynamite appears to be a way forward for these smaller companies and if so, Antarctic had the inside track and tossed it away for a broken model and a has been.

It's not so much 'dated' as a facile, self-insert.... cashgrab, the Dirtworm Doug ashcan shit counts as dated, but what do you want? Consistancy from a man who's as flighty as a teenage girl?
He supports it because Cecil one of the backbones of filling endless hours of livestreaming every day on his show, so he wants to throw him some cash to grab. It's not that hard to figure out.

Right on, plus theres nothing dated about being a spiteful prick like Cecil. It's apparently all the rage.
 
What was the excuse for booting Tim? Any receipts for that one?
Now I've tried to find that Livestream, but I don't know if Ethan's removed it and YT search function is ass. As far as that first Livestream where he made those comments good luck, I know it was sometime between May and July 2018.
The closest thing I have is a clip:
















It's courtesy of the SWC brother's channel, so I suppose I should thank them.
I used to think that Ethan was just worried about CG (and by extension him) getting tagged with the "Alt-right" label, but now, having observed his behavior for two years I just think he was jealous of a guy who's as good or better an artist than him and can also meet his deadlines. Sidenote: Tim's relationship with Antarctic probably didn't help after the Jawbreakers debacle.
The alt right association was always a red herring in my opinion. Ethan constantly goes on the Killstream and associates with members of it's cast, he was even a guest on the "Healstream", the mega charity show that raised money for St Jude's Childrens hospital. That particular stream was the one that the Wall St Journal wrote about and got Ralph booted from youtube.

Then there is his prior relationship with Vox Day and the fact he allowed Martina Markota to come into Comicsgate, despite all her baggage as @Analog Devolved recently reported.
Sidenote: Tim's relationship with Antarctic probably didn't help after the Jawbreakers debacle.
Nor Tim's relationship with the Rags crew, who had been going at Ethan for several months by that point.
Some things you just can't get people mad about. Like how there is still no decent way to reheat French Fries.

The closest I've gotten is with a foreman grill.
I use an oven on a low heat over an extended period of time but you are correct, there is no decent way to reheat French Fries. :feels:
It's not so much 'dated' as a facile, self-insert.... cashgrab, the Dirtworm Doug ashcan shit counts as dated, but what do you want? Consistancy from a man who's as flighty as a teenage girl?
I think the Trump parody books will be less dated than a book based on a self insert character, of an obscure internet movement, which sold comic books via crowdfunding through outrage and spite. Lim's Trump books at least have some cultural relevance and may serve as historical artifacts in future discussions, Donald Trump is a president after all. Who know's maybe in 50 years when discussing the history of the Trump presidency, the teachers and professors will cite Thump and Lim's other books as original sources of popular culture's opinion of Trump at the time.
 
The issue arose when Frog came in and kept saying he thought Thump's books weren't CG. Lim responded by holding one hell of a grudge and trying to sabotage Frog before being exiled.

We've seen Ethan's passive aggressive attacks on his "friends" who fell out of favor. That was exactly what happened to Lim. Ethan used his worm tongue to infer that Lim wasn't CG. Lim stood up for himself and brought transcripts that had Ethan forced to embarrass hinself and apologize to the Asian guy he already didn't like. Publicly. On his own show.

If Lim was holding a grudge Ethan's curb stomped ego was holding one 10 times that size. "How dare this little fuck come on my show and hold me to account for the shit I said?!?!?!"

WarCampaign was activated to go after Lim specifically. Ethan had shown them that his political comics didn't qualify so he was fair game. The gay ops against Tim Lim, Nerkish and Cecils Cash Grab started. Even Cecil is finally admitting that WC went after his business.

People complained to Ethan about the fuckery but Ethan said he didn't know anything about it and he won't police "the fans". (He certainly has no problem curb stomping them now doesn't he)

Then Nerkish (who had a bad habit of giving Ethan a hard time on stream) and Lim were declared traitors and booted with Ethan's full support. Ethan has since then admitted Lim and Nerk got a raw deal and it's his fault. (but they still betrayed him because reasons. No receipts necessary, thank you)

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Lim didn't "betray CG". He called out Ethan's passive aggressive attacks on his campaigns. (Telling thousands of fans Trump comics aren't CG was bound to hurt Lim's bottom line and has) Ethan grudgingly apologized and then sat back and enjoyed the show while his homo-erotic LARP squad jumped in to "protect" their Caesar. Once Tim and Nerk were out Ethan gave his dogs a pat on the head and the smart creators figured out what happens to people who stand up for themselves with Ethan.

This is why whenever Ethan has other creators on panel now they can't agree with Ethan enough. Simping gets you promoted. Disagreeing gets you canceled. Micah and Liam followed this simptastic model and got their shit stain ripoff books more than funded but it looks like they are out now because they refused to disavow Ethan's estranged attack dogs, Ro and Pan. Dummies.

Tim Lim's only sin was having a back bone.Tennaple's was sticking up for Ashworth. Miller's was not bending knee quickly enough when Ethan didn't like his Pride tweet. Even WarCampaign got cancelled for not bending knee over Anna and her lucrative StarWars fanbase.

Lucky for Malin and Cecil they had their spines surgically removed if they ever had them to begin with.
 
It's not so much 'dated' as a facile, self-insert.... cashgrab, the Dirtworm Doug ashcan shit counts as dated, but what do you want? Consistancy from a man who's as flighty as a teenage girl?
He supports it because Cecil one of the backbones of filling endless hours of livestreaming every day on his show, so he wants to throw him some cash to grab. It's not that hard to figure out.
I mean the original CashGrab.

Nerkish, Cecil, and Lim. Ethan supported that book from the get go. That fact doesn't fit your hypothesis of Ethan only wanted "evergreen" stories told by CG creators which is why he didn't get behind Dixon & Lim's Trump book.
 
That's because the EVS derangement syndrome crowd can't see past their impotent 'Frog Man Bad' hate-boner which leads to a lot of cognitive dissonance.

The reality of what happened is pretty simple. It's about snobery not jealousy.

EVS casually commented on a stream that he didn't think 'Trump books' were comicsgate, because he's snobbish about what constitutes his 'vision of comicsgate', and that doesn't include stuff along the lines of Mad Magazine for example. He considers those kind of books too topical and thus instantly dated, unlike 'books for the ages' like Cyberfrog that will last the test of time just like Green Lantern Rebirth (LOL).

It was an offhand comment that resulted in a lot of reeeing about gate keeping that forced him to back-track and push Trump's Space Force by Lim pretty hard to make amends.

It was assumed that all that was resolved on the 'transcripts' stream where Tim arrived with a transcript of the livestream ready to prove EVS was gate-keeping him but EVS bent the knee and it turned into a nothingburger.
Lim however seems to have spent most his time since that quietly seething about the slight and plotting his revenge as his alter ego 'The Glove' (LOL) and spent his time trying to quietly build a coalition of OGCG to undermine EVS. He opportunistically used the Nerkish controversy to exact his revenge by flouncing on Cashgrab. Basically Tim Lim is a massive salty faggot.


Ah! He's just a snob, he's not jealous. You're right! All this time we hated him because he was envious of other people's success, not because he is a narcissistic manipulator. Not what most of us have been saying since he started his career as Director of CG Gayops. Not that it was all about Ethan from the beginning. He was only being casual! It's not like anyone has any evidence that he was directly manipulating his coterie of comicsgaters to echo his own personal vision for what he thought CG should be. Everyone lies, only the human sunbeam is truth!

Drop the cope, not the soap.

How could anyone sit there and bobblehead along with Eehee Chucklesworth when he claims Trump is "too topical?" How should everyone be fine with this sage advice because, oh he's just a "snob?" Oh, it's 2018 not 2016 anymore! Oh! "Cognitive Dissonance" indeed. Rules for thee, but not for E.

Final Jeopardy: "Voting this man into the Presidency became a major part of Ethan Van Sciver's push towards exposing DC as a hotbed of SJW progressivism while at the same time establishing Comicsgate as friendly to all conservatives."

Hint:

Not as orange as Liam.
 
Is there a sigh reaction?

We've seen Ethan's passive aggressive

Is there anything more passive aggressive then telling someone on air your cool with him, then going behind his back and talking shit, holding a grudge and lying about holding that grudge. This is a dumb argument. They are both fucking cows.

If Lim was holding a grudge Ethan's curb stomped ego was holding one 10 times that size. "How dare this little fuck come on my show and hold me to account for the shit I said?!?!?!"

Maybe. But your arguing tism to me. The fact Tim Lim is still bitching about @FROG after a year or more is like watching him harp on Doug Tennaple, still.

WarCampaign was activated to go after Lim specifically. Ethan had shown them that his political comics didn't qualify so he was fair game. The gay ops against Tim Lim, Nerkish and Cecils Cash Grab started. Even Cecil is finally admitting that WC went after his business.

Okay, tell the whole history. The gayass glove, leaking DM's, gayops. WC was collected after the gaystream, when Lim was doing gayops online. I mean fuck WC, but there's a reason they lasted as long as they did.

People complained to Ethan about the fuckery but Ethan said he didn't know anything about it and he won't police "the fans".

Your preaching to the choir. Frog's a hypocrite, two faced, and ultimately, what, 70-75% evil? Its a boring, mild evil, like only ever taking pennies from the tray without ever putting any in.

Then Nerkish (who had a bad habit of giving Ethan a hard time on stream) and Lim were declared traitors and booted with Ethan's full support. Ethan has since then admitted Lim and Nerk got a raw deal and it's his fault. (but they still betrayed him because reasons. No receipts necessary, thank you)

He's waffled on Nerkish, never on Lim. Again, a bunch of stupid shit that guy did your glossing over.

Tim Lim's only sin was having a back bone.

And gayops, and passive agressiveness, and holding grudges. But yes, he also may have a spine.

Tennaple's was sticking up for Ashworth. Miller's was not bending knee quickly enough when Ethan didn't like his Pride tweet.

Doug jumped ship because he could and it was smart after WC and Cecil nearly cancelled him. Miller jumped ship because Frog has to put those he views as lesser men in their place. In Mike's case that meant a never ending stream of ridicule and importantly, blasphemy.

Even WarCampaign got cancelled for not bending knee over Anna and her lucrative StarWars fanbase.
Lucky for Malin and Cecil they had their spines surgically removed if they ever had them to begin with.

Not what I saw at all. Malin and Cecil got attacked after supporting Anna and decided they didn't like WC. Jon's a dumbass hothead, but Cecil, now he's got some brains. Just like with Doug. Go back to that stream. He pushed, just a little and WC did the rest. He went on stream and escalated, forcing Frog into a bad situation. Frog may be cancelling WC, but Cecil pulled that string after they came at him. Smart move, like Tennaple leaving. If someone takes the kill shot at you, you don't give them a second chance.
 
I mean the original CashGrab.

Nerkish, Cecil, and Lim. Ethan supported that book from the get go. That fact doesn't fit your hypothesis of Ethan only wanted "evergreen" stories told by CG creators which is why he didn't get behind Dixon & Lim's Trump book.

Did you not read what you literally just quoted?
Everybody has their principles, most people's principles are tempered by pragmatism. especially when it comes to money. Who sells books for EVS?
I'll give you a hint, it's not boring ass Tim Lim and I certainly don't want to hear about principles from anybody that would sit on a stream with Roiloup and Poulter, two of the nastiest, most manipulative degenerates you could ever have to misfortune to come across.
You and your cronies are a just second rate mirror image of Comicsgate, you're a budget WC for Doug Tennaple. You certainly hold no moral high ground that's for sure.

Is there a sigh reaction?

Fucking preach.
 
Is there a sigh reaction?

*sigh*

Maybe. But your arguing tism to me. The fact Tim Lim is still bitching about @FROG after a year or more is like watching him harp on Doug Tennaple, still.
Tim barely acknowledges Ethan exists. Ethan and his spergs have been running him down since he left. Obviously Lim thinks responding won't benefit him and obviously Ethan thinks keeping the Tim Lim narrative alive benefits him.

I've seen Ethan bitch about Lim on stream, Twitter and even here. I'm sure Lim has probably responded in some small way here or there or by his associations with people Ethan hates but who could blame him given that he's been on Ethan's list of people to shit on the whole time.

Where's all this "bitching" that Tim's been doing the last two years?
This was the bitching I found from Ethan and the closest I could find to bitching I could find from Lim.
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Ethan claims to have receipts here. Didn't share them. Did he share them somewhere else I don't know about?

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I see Ethan bitching, not Tim. Bitching at Tim's partner Pellegrini for liking a tweet was my favorite.
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Is it secret bitching from Tim? Because I don't think that counts.

Okay, tell the whole history. The gayass glove, leaking DM's, gayops. WC was collected after the gaystream, when Lim was doing gayops online. I mean fuck WC, but there's a reason they lasted as long as they did.
You know, I started following CG right after Lim got pushed out. At first I assumed the "Glove" narrative was as stated but after getting to know the shit actors involved and seeing that Lim walked away and did not respond to attacks for a more than a year my faith in that narrative faltered.

Still, I'm open to being proven wrong. If Lim was coordinating some super villain level gay ops against Ethan there should be receipts. Does anyone have them? If not I'm going to assume that WC did to him what they did to everyone they thought displeased Caesar. After all, these were the guys who fucked over Nerkish and Cecil just to get to Tim.

He's waffled on Nerkish, never on Lim.
Ethan said he was responsible for pushing Lim out not to long ago. I can't remember if it was here, on stream or on Twitter.

Doug jumped ship because he could and it was smart after WC and Cecil nearly cancelled him
The attacks on Doug started a month before Cecil joined in when Pan got pissed that Doug defended someone Pan had a beef with. Doug's a smart man. He saw his path would be the same as Lim's. He was also disgusted that the people he'd aligned himself with were using the exact same cancel culture tactics to attack him that had been used on him many times before in games and TV.

What did Doug have to stay for besides Ethan's simp bucks and subjugation? None of them had his back.

He went on stream and escalated, forcing Frog into a bad situation. Frog may be cancelling WC, but Cecil pulled that string after they came at him. Smart move, like Tennaple leaving.
A smart move perhaps but it in no way shows Cecil has a spine. When he recognized his back was to the wall he manipulated Ethan into fighting the fight for him. Cecil can't stand on his own two feet. He's a pathetic drunk.
 
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Did you not read what you literally just quoted?
Everybody has their principles, most people's principles are tempered by pragmatism. especially when it comes to money. Who sells books for EVS?
I'll give you a hint, it's not boring ass Tim Lim and I certainly don't want to hear about principles from anybody that would sit on a stream with Roiloup and Poulter, two of the nastiest, most manipulative degenerates you could ever have to misfortune to come across.
You and your cronies are a just second rate mirror image of Comicsgate, you're a budget WC for Doug Tennaple. You certainly hold no moral high ground that's for sure.



Fucking preach.
Trump's Space force is in it's ninth printing.

Tim and Mark sold out their limited run of their new MAGA-verse book (800 copies) in 5 or 6 days.

Ethan was wrong. There is obvious an audience for it, even if you can't take your head out of Ethan's ass long enough to see it.
 
Mecha mccheese reviewed vestige.

McCheese puts out some quality content and his streams are rather comfy. I owe @Mister Dongs a great deal for pointing out this gem a few months back in the hanger on thread, it's fucking glorious.
This was the bitching I found from Ethan and the closest I could find to bitching I could find from Lim.
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Ethan claims to have receipts here. Didn't share them. Did he share them somewhere else I don't know about?

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Holy fucking shit! @FROG explain yourself!
You know, I started following CG right after Lim got pushed out. At first I assumed the "Glove" narrative was as stated but after getting to know the shit actors involved and seeing that Lim walked away and did not respond to attacks for a more than a year my faith in that narrative faltered.

Still, I'm open to being proven wrong. If Lim was coordinating some super villain level gay ops against Ethan there should be receipts. Does anyone have them? If not I'm going to assume that WC did to him what they did to everyone they thought displeased Caesar. After all, these were the guys who fucked over Nerkish and Cecil just to get to Tim.
The "Glove" narrative is an ongoing joke about Tim Lim leaking to LateNightComics who was posting leaked DMs here back in late 2018. As I've admitted previously I'm something of an LNC scholar/fan, I enjoy going back and re-reading his entry into the thread. Emspex (RIP best girl) was the one who contacted Tim Lim off site and then exposed Tim here:
Which resulted in one of my favorite memes in this thread.
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To be fair to Tim this is the only and closest thing to a gay op he's ever performed and it was nearly two years ago. It's effects were near negligible but it resulted in some of the first leaked DMs we ever got to this thread. These DMs also exposed some of the clashes of personalities within Comicsgate.
Brett R Smiths fallout with CG over JDA being outcast
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TUG admitting he doesn't like I Love Comics (Englentine) or Weaponized Nerd Rage
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Yellowflash shit talking HP Collage (I presume), I'm not sure who Mario is?
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And Flash dick riding the farms.
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LNC talking to someone who is unknown at this point.
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Nerkish's reaction to the CGanonymous OP ran by Warcampaign
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A confession from a former Warcampaigner they were responsible for the Nerkish OP

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A collection of Ethan's general DMs.

Talking about Warcampaign:
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General paranoia:
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Ethan admitting his owns Comicsgate:
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Ethan running gay ops with The Quartering against Antarctic:
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Ethan and Jon Del Arroz's conversation when he was receiving death threats:
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Since then Tim has kept his nose clean and focused more on his work ethic which I can respect. He's put out; My Hero MAGAdemia 2, Black Hops 2, drawn Soulfinder, Kamen America and now the MAGAdorlian (My Hero MAGAdemia 3) with Black Hops 3 coming soon.

Ethan should honestly follow his example.
 

Thanks...

Tim barely acknowledges Ethan exists.

He bitches about CG periodically. No, I'm not going to dig autistically through hour long streams on the subject matter because I don't think Tim Lim is an interesting cow at this point. He was when he was relevant.

I've seen Ethan bitch about Lim on stream, Twitter and even here. I'm sure Lim has probably responded in some small way here or there or by his associations with people Ethan hates but who could blame him given that he's been on Ethan's list of people to shit on the whole time.

Is it secret bitching from Tim? Because I don't think that counts.

Yes, being a drama bitch behind doors counts, but what the hell, are you Tim Lim's mom? Does he mow your lawn or something? The guys a cow. He did some gayops online, makes bad trump anime comics, and still does cry streams about Frog.

Still, I'm open to being proven wrong. If Lim was coordinating some super villain level gay ops against Ethan there should be receipts.

This isn't a courtroom Phoenix Wright. But if it was I'd point out I never said Tim Lim coordinated super villain gay ops. He got caught repeatedly.

Ethan said he was responsible for pushing Lim out not to long ago. I can't remember if it was here, on stream or on Twitter.

Recccceeiiiiiipts. Or not because I don't care about Tim, he's boring now.

He was also disgusted that the people he'd aligned himself with were using the exact same cancel culture tactics to attack him that had been used on him many times before in games and TV.

One of the many things I hate about Frog's rogues gallery is how they'll justify anything to own a bitch level Jersey faggot who draws at the pace of a sloth.

A smart move perhaps but it in no way shows Cecil has a spine. When he recognized his back was to the wall he manipulated Ethan into fighting the fight for him.

Never said he did. We agree, Cecil's a manipulative bastard who forced Frog into a position where he had to wreck his paypiggy farm for him or risk losing Ana and Jon Malin.

Trump's Space force is in it's ninth printing.

Tim and Mark sold out their limited run of their new MAGA-verse book (800 copies) in 5 or 6 days.

Ethan was wrong. There is obvious an audience for it, even if you can't take your head out of Ethan's ass long enough to see it.

My heads never been in Frog's ass. He's not wrong about Lim's stick. He's making a tiny fraction of what BFB, Jawbreakers, and Cyberfrog make. What do they all have in common? They don't feature a historically unpopular divisive politician.
 
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