Godzilla: King of the Monsters - Long Live the King

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I'm not recalling the military march being used, maybe in the "Battle in Boston" track, but that entire track grows hair on my face, so what do I know.
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Here's the other.

As for Junkie XL, I'm OK with it. Sneak in Godzilla's theme, though.
 
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Still my movie of the year 2019. And I still don't understand why critics seemed to maliciously not get the movie
 
King Ghidorah said:
Still my movie of the year 2019. And I still don't understand why critics seemed to maliciously not get the movie
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I'm not saying KOTM was a perfect and misunderstood masterpiece, but the negativity it got was bizarre.

What ticked me off the most were the video reviewers that claimed to be Godzilla fans, but then made criticisms of the film that no fan would ever make. For example, I think it was Angry Joe who said he was a fan, but then questioned why Ghidorah was called Monster Zero for most of the film. Considering the term "Monster Zero" is well known to Godzilla fans (its even included in the title of one of the movies!), this raised an eyebrow with me.
 
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RumblyTumbly said:
I'm not saying KOTM was a perfect and misunderstood masterpiece, but the negativity it got was bizarre.

What ticked me off the most were the video reviewers that claimed to be Godzilla fans, but then made criticisms of the film that no fan would ever make. For example, I think it was Angry Joe who said he was a fan, but then questioned why Ghidorah was called Monster Zero for most of the film. Considering the term "Monster Zero" is well known to Godzilla fans (its even included in the title of one of the movies!), this raised an eyebrow with me.
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The monster shit was good. The only complaint I have is that one faggot in the movie whose always making fucking MCU-esque quips.
 
RumblyTumbly said:
I'm not saying KOTM was a perfect and misunderstood masterpiece, but the negativity it got was bizarre.

What ticked me off the most were the video reviewers that claimed to be Godzilla fans, but then made criticisms of the film that no fan would ever make. For example, I think it was Angry Joe who said he was a fan, but then questioned why Ghidorah was called Monster Zero for most of the film. Considering the term "Monster Zero" is well known to Godzilla fans (its even included in the title of one of the movies!), this raised an eyebrow with me.
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The ones I hate the most are the ones who claim to be fans yet act as if the 1954 original and maybe shin Godzilla are the only ones that exist and how kotm was bad because it wasn't dark and serious or some such shit
 
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King Ghidorah said:
The ones I hate the most are the ones who claim to be fans yet act as if the 1954 original and maybe shin Godzilla are the only ones that exist and how kotm was bad because it wasn't dark and serious or some such shit
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One of the things I've always admired about the Godzilla series is how it can take almost any tone. It can be serious. It can be funny. It can be scary. It can be goofy. It can be pure spectacle, or it can be more thought provoking, and no matter what road they take, very rarely does it feel wrong within the universe.
 
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King Ghidorah said:
The ones I hate the most are the ones who claim to be fans yet act as if the 1954 original and maybe shin Godzilla are the only ones that exist and how kotm was bad because it wasn't dark and serious or some such shit
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What about the people whose only experience with the franchise is from watching MST3K and think its all cheap, dumb, campy, WWE nonsense but with guys in rubber costumes knocking over cardboard cities?

RumblyTumbly said:
One of the things I've always admired about the Godzilla series is how it can take almost any tone. It can be serious. It can be funny. I can be scary. It can be goofy. It can be pure spectacle, or it can be more thought provoking, and no matter what road they take, very rarely does it feel wrong within the universe.
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A handy if outdated chart to support your claims that the series offers a lot more than what Pop-Culture portrayals of it show. As a little boy I liked the monster fights, as a grown man I still like all the action but admire how they did it on a shoestring budget.
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Strange Wilderness said:
What about the people whose only experience with the franchise is from watching MST3K and think its all cheap, dumb, campy, WWE nonsense but with guys in rubber costumes knocking over cardboard cities?
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Both are equally obnoxious in their own ways snobs are annoying on every end of the aisle
 
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Crustyguy said:
The monster shit was good. The only complaint I have is that one faggot in the movie whose always making fucking MCU-esque quips.
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In all fairness, judging from the body language I think even the characters themselves didn't like Sam and Rick making the snide comments all the time, they just didn't ever once tell them to STFU or anything like that (wait, I think Mark snapped once, fuck, when was that?). But I'm a weirdo who actually likes quips, and at the very least not everyone was making them.

Fuck, I can't remember the video I watched a few days ago, think it was a Let Me Explain video who pointed out that Mark wasn't being taken seriously by the other characters like he should've given his career field. It was there when Serizawa, Sam and Dr. Graham went to recruit him for help because he has valuable knowledge, but then that kinda dropped in favor for more militaristic tactics and Dr. Chen's research efforts took over more.

So in a way, I'd say that's a legit criticism when it comes to the human characters who weren't fully utilized or didn't feel "natural" in the roles they were given. But at the same time, Godzilla movies have a long history of making human characters flat and having only one thing to their purpose, whether it's as a scientist, a gun-for-hire, a soldier with a vengeance, things like that. Even Miki Saegusa was kinda not living up to her potential as a psychic, and she was the most recurring human character of the entire franchise.

I think that's why I kinda like the family drama of KOTM, that's what held the human drama together for me. The characters had actual motivation on both sides of the playing field, and as a bonus, Bear put in a family leitmotif we can hear throughout the soundtrack even though the actual true thread that holds the music (and in a way, the entire film) together is the theme of the Titans, the first gods. He described the Titan leitmotif on his blog as a ghost, since it's the first notes you hear in the soundtrack, and then comes in at the very end but it's always been there in the background.

King Ghidorah said:
The ones I hate the most are the ones who claim to be fans yet act as if the 1954 original and maybe shin Godzilla are the only ones that exist and how kotm was bad because it wasn't dark and serious or some such shit
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Which is silly because much like the 2014 film, KOTM was rather serious (that's actually one of the complaints I've heard was the serious and light-hearted tones clashed too much) and has some dark elements in terms of Ghidorah's influence since his physical presence alone was a threat to the balance. It just doesn't come off as serious because of the aforementioned quips, and that the film embraced the fantastical/sci-fi elements that made the franchise be so beloved, as well as making the monsters have personalities and actions that get a bit goofy when you look at them for too long.

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Kari Kamiya said:
In all fairness, judging from the body language I think even the characters themselves didn't like Sam and Rick making the snide comments all the time, they just didn't ever once tell them to STFU or anything like that (wait, I think Mark snapped once, fuck, when was that?). But I'm a weirdo who actually likes quips, and at the very least not everyone was making them.
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The only one that stood out to me was Sam saying Ghidorah's name sounded like "gonorrhea" before Dr. Chen corrected him in annoyance.

Kari Kamiya said:
I think that's why I kinda like the family drama of KOTM, that's what held the human drama together for me. The characters had actual motivation on both sides of the playing field, and as a bonus
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This is something I only noticed until I saw a deleted scene on the Blu-ray release. The flashback of scene Godzilla's battle with the MUTOs in San Francisco is shown through both Emma and Mark with the former only being shown in the theatrical release for the audience to see how the characters' are involved in this universe. The difference I saw with both flashback scenes is that Mark shows external rage towards Godzilla (and Titans) due to the loss of his son, Andrew, while Emma's grief is internal. Mark fell into alcoholism and left his family while Emma became an extremist who wanted to correct humanity's mistakes. It is an interesting duality that could have been explored more with a better cut.
 
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This is something I only noticed until I saw a deleted scene on the Blu-ray release. The flashback of scene Godzilla's battle with the MUTOs in San Francisco is shown through both Emma and Mark with the former only being shown in the theatrical release for the audience to see how the characters' are involved in this universe. The difference I saw with both flashback scenes is that Mark shows external rage towards Godzilla (and Titans) due to the loss of his son, Andrew, while Emma's grief is internal. Mark fell into alcoholism and left his family while Emma became an extremist who wanted to correct humanity's mistakes. It is an interesting duality that could have been explored more with a better cut.
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I wish Mark's flashback made it in, it was sorely needed. I remember thinking in the theater when he blacked out then suddenly woke up that something should've been there to fill in that blackness. Like it was just a sudden cut to him waking up, him waking up from the flashback makes more sense. Wonder why they cut it out, I don't recall the commentary bringing it up.
 
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Somnius said:
My inner child and Godzilla fan both adored this movie, and the hate makes no sense to me. Even if you're not a huge fan of giant monsters, this wasn't any more lacking in substance than most summer blockbusters.

Also Mothra is best girl for all time.
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The film was definitely made with Godzilla fans in mind, probably why it didn't do so hot at the Box Office. Friends of mine who did see the movie would ask me to explain certain scenes because they knew I was a fan, stuff like the Oxygen Destroyer scene or the Burning Godzilla scene, stuff that kinda came out of nowhere that a fan would get but a casual moviegoer wouldn't.
 
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