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>I'm gullible and a pussy
>I'm going to be an asshole about it
>This makes me a good person
>Give sympathy and asspats plox
Peak Reddit.
Oh okay, sounds good thanks for the info... WAIT WHAT!?!?
Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big
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>I'm going to be an asshole about it
>This makes me a good person
>Give sympathy and asspats plox
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well it was a meat processing plant and the line workers of those are eastern europeans who have to life in camps and get their papers taken away.
its common pretty much everywhere where migrantworkers are needed... Its worse than what china does with their migrantworkers.
but well they are white so no politician cares about them.
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This type of thing is why I have a flip phone.
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Same here, and turned off unless needed.
Believe I would do the same thing, if I was ever to go back to Costco. Used to go every week. No more. Saves money, need not be treated like a leper/criminal. Don't give a fuck what they are doing now. Got to see employees' true colors. Keep membership because wife likes to shop there. As a rule, if I can't get it on base or online, I probably don't need it.
Here's a very good article from the Federalist. The writer simply tells the truth. The next time something like this happens - and there always is a next time - don't see much cooperation.
Americans Should Never Again Comply With Pandemic Lockdown Orders
archived 19 Jun 2020 04:26:42 UTC
Added: Just sent a copy of the article to my county "board of supervisors". They won't give a fuck but least now they know people see through their bullshit.
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I wouldn’t need it. Not running an op or have to be on call to perform brain surgery. Remember the good old days when NOBODY carried a phone except the ultra-degenerate?
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Michigan, USA
(Archive.today is acting funny. Hopefully the links work)
[EDIT: One wordfilter is still active. archive.t-o-d-a-y wordfilters to archive.md]
A Federal judge, Paul Maloney, of the Grand Rapids/West Michigan U.S. District Court, has ordered that Michigan gyms can reopen June 25, on the grounds that everything else is being opened and the Governor has presented no evidence that gyms are more dangerous than anywhere else.
"Faced with imminent harm, plaintiffs presented defendants with a simple question: why must we remain closed?" Maloney wrote. "Defendants answered with a blanket 'trust us' statement that is insufficient to uphold a no-longer-blanket rule."
Maloney has also requested that the State Supreme Court hear the lawsuits against Whitmer promptly, instead of waiting for them to go through the court of appeals. This request is just a request and has no legal force.
www.detroitnews.com
(archive)
A few days ago, in the Detroit Free Press:
www.freep.com
(archive)
The Michigan government ignored a warning from nursing homes that they shouldn't be forced to accept COVID patients.
"Three days after the confirmation of Michigan's first COVID-19 cases, the state's nursing home association leader recommended in a letter to Gov. Gretchen Whitmer's administration that empty facilities should be used as quarantine centers to "avoid widespread infection."
But state officials declined the suggestion of Melissa Samuel, president and CEO of the Health Care Association of Michigan, and instead set up a system in which infected residents are cared for in isolated areas of nursing homes, separate from residents without the virus."
www.detroitnews.com
(archive)
MICHIGAN RECAP
Most stuff reopened or about to be. Death toll and new cases way down. It's looking like it's all over except the lawsuits.
OFFICIAL DEATH TOLL
The state has begun tracking probable cases and deaths. Those are not included here. I don't know how they factor into the "recovered" total.
Detroit Metro (pop. 3,860,000 total; 1,796/sq. mi.; 694/sq km):*
36,906 confirmed / 4,466 dead
36,426 confirmed / 4,429 dead last week
(i.e. 37 new deaths, down 32 from the previous week)
Normal Detroit Metro Death Rate: 104 per day.**
Other Michigan (6,120,000; 65/sq. mi.; 25/sq km):
24,178 confirmed / 1,377 dead
23,375 confirmed / 1,338 dead last week
(i.e. 39 new deaths, down 7 from the previous week)
Normal not-Detroit Death Rate: 167 per day**
All Michigan (9,990,000; 103/sq. mi.; 40/sq km):
61,084 confirmed / 5,843 dead / 49,290 recovered = 5,951 active cases^
59,801 confirmed / 5,767 dead / 44,964 recovered = 9,070 active cases last week^
(76 dead (down 39) and 4,326 declared recovered (up 1,403 since last week)
Net change: -3,119 active cases since last Saturday.^
Normal Michigan Death Rate: 271 per day.**
Death toll doubled since: April 22.
State Government site, daily - archive.today is broken for Brave;
State Gov site, total, includes breakdowns by sex, age, race and ethnicity - archive is useless after redesign.
*Here defined as the City of Detroit, and Macomb, Oakland, and Wayne Counties, minus state and federal prisoners, who are not counted towards any county's cases, but are kept in categories of their own.
** As of 2018.
^Here calculated based on confirmed cases and deaths only.
One Ann Arbor man allegedly killed by his roommate in a Corona-related dispute (archive). The suspect has been released from custody while the investigation continues (archive).
One Flint security guard allegedly murdered for telling a woman that her daughter needed to wear a mask in a dollar store. Multiple suspects are in custody (archive, A&N thread).
(Archive.today is acting funny. Hopefully the links work)
[EDIT: One wordfilter is still active. archive.t-o-d-a-y wordfilters to archive.md]
A Federal judge, Paul Maloney, of the Grand Rapids/West Michigan U.S. District Court, has ordered that Michigan gyms can reopen June 25, on the grounds that everything else is being opened and the Governor has presented no evidence that gyms are more dangerous than anywhere else.
"Faced with imminent harm, plaintiffs presented defendants with a simple question: why must we remain closed?" Maloney wrote. "Defendants answered with a blanket 'trust us' statement that is insufficient to uphold a no-longer-blanket rule."
Maloney has also requested that the State Supreme Court hear the lawsuits against Whitmer promptly, instead of waiting for them to go through the court of appeals. This request is just a request and has no legal force.
Federal judge orders Michigan gyms reopened June 25; Whitmer to appeal
A federal judge has ordered indoor gyms can reopen Friday in spite of Gov. Gretchen Whitmer's executive order keeping them closed
www.detroitnews.com
A few days ago, in the Detroit Free Press:
Couple who lost Genoa Township gym during COVID-19 crisis says gyms should stay closed
KFit Studios fell into financial insolvency. The couple who owned it say they don't see a future for brick-and-mortar gyms during the pandemic.
www.freep.com
The Michigan government ignored a warning from nursing homes that they shouldn't be forced to accept COVID patients.
"Three days after the confirmation of Michigan's first COVID-19 cases, the state's nursing home association leader recommended in a letter to Gov. Gretchen Whitmer's administration that empty facilities should be used as quarantine centers to "avoid widespread infection."
But state officials declined the suggestion of Melissa Samuel, president and CEO of the Health Care Association of Michigan, and instead set up a system in which infected residents are cared for in isolated areas of nursing homes, separate from residents without the virus."
Michigan declined nursing home leader's idea to put COVID-19 patients in vacant centers
The president of an association that represents nursing homes in Michigan recommended the state use empty facilities as "quarantine centers"
www.detroitnews.com
MICHIGAN RECAP
Most stuff reopened or about to be. Death toll and new cases way down. It's looking like it's all over except the lawsuits.
OFFICIAL DEATH TOLL
The state has begun tracking probable cases and deaths. Those are not included here. I don't know how they factor into the "recovered" total.
Detroit Metro (pop. 3,860,000 total; 1,796/sq. mi.; 694/sq km):*
36,906 confirmed / 4,466 dead
36,426 confirmed / 4,429 dead last week
(i.e. 37 new deaths, down 32 from the previous week)
Normal Detroit Metro Death Rate: 104 per day.**
Other Michigan (6,120,000; 65/sq. mi.; 25/sq km):
24,178 confirmed / 1,377 dead
23,375 confirmed / 1,338 dead last week
(i.e. 39 new deaths, down 7 from the previous week)
Normal not-Detroit Death Rate: 167 per day**
All Michigan (9,990,000; 103/sq. mi.; 40/sq km):
61,084 confirmed / 5,843 dead / 49,290 recovered = 5,951 active cases^
59,801 confirmed / 5,767 dead / 44,964 recovered = 9,070 active cases last week^
(76 dead (down 39) and 4,326 declared recovered (up 1,403 since last week)
Net change: -3,119 active cases since last Saturday.^
Normal Michigan Death Rate: 271 per day.**
Death toll doubled since: April 22.
State Government site, daily - archive.today is broken for Brave;
State Gov site, total, includes breakdowns by sex, age, race and ethnicity - archive is useless after redesign.
*Here defined as the City of Detroit, and Macomb, Oakland, and Wayne Counties, minus state and federal prisoners, who are not counted towards any county's cases, but are kept in categories of their own.
** As of 2018.
^Here calculated based on confirmed cases and deaths only.
One Ann Arbor man allegedly killed by his roommate in a Corona-related dispute (archive). The suspect has been released from custody while the investigation continues (archive).
One Flint security guard allegedly murdered for telling a woman that her daughter needed to wear a mask in a dollar store. Multiple suspects are in custody (archive, A&N thread).
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No, good to have for an emergency. Get a Tracfone flip burner. Cheap to buy, minutes cheap. Learned lesson a few years ago when traveling by train to see relatives. Train ran someone over. We were there several hours, got in very late. Was able to borrow phone but can't always count on that.
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@JosephStalin Two days ago my employer (here's some deets) started requiring that every employee who travels out of their immediate vicinity--for business or personal reasons--needs to fill out a form to submit to HR Karen and some other corporate stooge. I'm trying to get in touch with my lawyer to see if I could oppose this bullshit rule on right-to-privacy grounds, but if they're going to play the "it's a private company!" loophole or make my employment contingent on contact tracing or getting GatesVaxx, then I'm going to quit.
No notice.
I'm not going to lay down and let all of civilized society brand me like an ox because of a chest cold. I'd rather die (and I'm sure they'll oblige because they label us as grannykillers for doing so).
No notice.
I'm not going to lay down and let all of civilized society brand me like an ox because of a chest cold. I'd rather die (and I'm sure they'll oblige because they label us as grannykillers for doing so).
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Emergencies are rare now. No ops anymore so rudimentary trip planning reduces the likelihood of emergencies and, therefore, the need to carry a tracker. I do agree Tracphone is the best one to carry if you must carry one though, as long as you can remove the battery. If your family is sick or the likelihood of unexpected need is higher than normal. It’s getting tougher because they are now trying to ban cash.
Standardized Profile
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It showed up in LineageOS, too. Fortunately it seems to be disabled if Bluetooth is off, and I don't use Bluetooth in public. They can probably turn it on remotely when they need to.
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Welcome to the 2020 sequel of the Great Ukrainian Famine.
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Anybody got any good articles or videos of some kind that can help me persuade my girlfriends Doomer mother to let her out of the house?
She's been a real bitch about keeping her at home.
She's been a real bitch about keeping her at home.
Shroom King
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It says that you need to install a participating app in order for the notifications to work. I found the same thing on my phone. I am not worried because I did not install a participating app and I only turn on Device Location if I get lost and need to check Google Maps.
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Sorry to interrupt the flow here, but a few weeks ago I made a post referencing commentary on a speech made by a former Chinese Defense Minister concerning potential plans for, among other things, occupying the United States through the use of a depopulating bioweapon. Some mod obviously thought it was only fit for Spergatory, and I won't argue that point. I will, however, provide a link to the post for any further consideration, as I feel it is at least relevant to the current discussion.
General Chi’s Nasty Wuhan Soup: A Recipe for BioWar?
General Chi’s Nasty Wuhan Soup: A Recipe for BioWar?
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Once the BLM and related protests began, it's been interesting to see these same elected officials turn a blind eye to protestors not wearing masks or social distancing as demanded.
Another example of this hypocracy comes from Michigan. Protesting without social distancing is totally acceptable, but showing movies to commemorate Juneteenth and raise money for the UNCF (United Negro College Fund) led to AG Dana Nessel sending a letter threatening legal action against the theater owner.
(Archive: Emagine Theater)
Oddly enough, the Free Press has what looks like an op-ed piece saying that the protests aren't behind COVID-19 upticks seen in those areas. The average person that accepts this premise might question why people are still being asked to wear masks or socially distance if unmasked people in close proximity with each other are neither contracting nor spreading COID-19 during protests.
(Archive: Protests and Coronavirus)
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As for other sports such as the NBA and NFL, I'm not sure how well it will work for them to be sequestered in one or a limited of handful of venues. If one person gets COVID-19, the potential for everyone else to get infected seems like it might increase exponentially.
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Various doctors offices in my part of KiwiLand have various protocols. All are expected to ask the same battery of questions, but others actually take temperatures and still others will make people use hand sanitizer upon arrival. I'm not sure what to expect with the appointments I have to reschedule or make during the summer.
If I was asked for "bio information," my initial response would be, "What's that?" As @JosephStalin already mentioned, this provides good incentive to patronize stories with minimal restrictions or order online otherwise in order to save everyone involved unnecessary drama.
One my job's business clients is someone who took over a salon. With the state's restriction on those facilities not ending until this past week, I have no idea how much business activity she will have between now and the end of the month -- or if she even bothered to reopen yet. I suppose I'll know more at the end of the month when she reports how much taxable merchandise she sold during the quarter. That's the other big issue right now: the combination of misinformation, scare tactics, and uncertainty has left business owners skittish about reopening even if they need to do so ASAP because they need to resume their money-making activities. On the flip side, people that need haircuts and other items are reluctant to go out because of the hype and hysteria surrounding a second wave that may or may not happen. It's one thing to make an informed decision that considers the health and welfare of all involved parties. But it really sucks that people lack the definitive information they need to make such an informed decision.
And that's been the rub. Prior to all the protests, we've seen state and local governmental folks telling peopel they needed to stay home/safe because it was what's needed to prevent too many infections and reduce the likelihood of a second wave. in some areas, people were threatened with misdemeanor charges (and the resulting criminal record) -- often from Democratic leaders that are advocating for decriminalization and jail reform -- for doing anything deemed totally unnecessary or unessential.
Once the BLM and related protests began, it's been interesting to see these same elected officials turn a blind eye to protestors not wearing masks or social distancing as demanded.
Another example of this hypocracy comes from Michigan. Protesting without social distancing is totally acceptable, but showing movies to commemorate Juneteenth and raise money for the UNCF (United Negro College Fund) led to AG Dana Nessel sending a letter threatening legal action against the theater owner.
(Archive: Emagine Theater)
Oddly enough, the Free Press has what looks like an op-ed piece saying that the protests aren't behind COVID-19 upticks seen in those areas. The average person that accepts this premise might question why people are still being asked to wear masks or socially distance if unmasked people in close proximity with each other are neither contracting nor spreading COID-19 during protests.
(Archive: Protests and Coronavirus)
With millionaire players and owners fighting over how to split a pot of millions in revenues, the petty squabbling -- especially the ongoing MLB haggling -- comes across as a petty first-world problem that makes it easy for one to be soured on pro sports. The same athletes that criticize White Privilege on social media seem to forget that making more money than most of the people watching them compete puts them in a position of privilege because many fans have seen their own wages reduced or eliminated as a result of COVID-19.
I think it might have been the NFL that was the sport that can afford to have games without fans this year if push comes to shove because the money coming in from cable broadcasts deals is enough to keep the league afloat for this season. Nevertheless, I lost interest in the NFL, except maybe for the Super Bowl if the match up looks good, after the Kaepernick flap. Sports are supposed to be entertainment where all the world's troubles get put aside temporarily. Recreational entertainment doesn't feel like the time or place for making personal politics the main thrust. Support pet and personal causes off the field.
As for other sports such as the NBA and NFL, I'm not sure how well it will work for them to be sequestered in one or a limited of handful of venues. If one person gets COVID-19, the potential for everyone else to get infected seems like it might increase exponentially.
I wonder what happens with users that keep Bluetooth disabled because they never use it on their phones.
Good to know, but how long before phone operating systems decide to stealthily install those "participating apps" as well?
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I think it was @JosephStalin that also posted the link about Landlords suing to overturn moratoriums on evictions in California.
Here, landlords are experiencing something similar. While they're happy to show flexibility with tenants who can only pay partial rent or no rent at all if they've lost their job and haven't yet received unemployment (because the system is so bogged down with backlog), some landlords have had tenants who remain fully employed refuse to pay rent under the belief that they can't be evicted for willfully refusing to pay their rent.
Even with the willingness to be flexible as appropriate, landlords are starting to feel crunched financially when the lack of full rents means they can't cover the rental property's mortgage, taxes, and upkeep. Those tenants able but unwilling to pay full rent might thinking they're waging some sort of noble battle against evil landlords, but it would be all for naught if the lack of incoming rent leads to the landlords losing their property to foreclosure if and when they can't keep up with the mortgage or taxes.
Here, landlords are experiencing something similar. While they're happy to show flexibility with tenants who can only pay partial rent or no rent at all if they've lost their job and haven't yet received unemployment (because the system is so bogged down with backlog), some landlords have had tenants who remain fully employed refuse to pay rent under the belief that they can't be evicted for willfully refusing to pay their rent.
Even with the willingness to be flexible as appropriate, landlords are starting to feel crunched financially when the lack of full rents means they can't cover the rental property's mortgage, taxes, and upkeep. Those tenants able but unwilling to pay full rent might thinking they're waging some sort of noble battle against evil landlords, but it would be all for naught if the lack of incoming rent leads to the landlords losing their property to foreclosure if and when they can't keep up with the mortgage or taxes.
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from what I hear you still have to install an app that uses the system for covid 19 notifications to work: https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveyw...re-notification-contact-tracing/#7e61aa806054
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Somebody on the day shift at work has the Wu Flu. It only happen in 4 months of this shit. They aren't closing shit.
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The longer this insanity drags on, the more 2019 seems like an exotic time of ancient history, where legends like "no one had to wear those damned face masks in public", "no one knew the term social distancing", and "there were public events" were reality.
2020 sucks monkey dick.
2020 sucks monkey dick.
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These days, I can't help but feel paranoid that people will push for more lockdowns during new flu seasons.
I'm not trying to downplay how deadly a flu can be, I just fear the overzealous governors "protecting" us from now on.
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