Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

Just gonna drop this live grenade here because why the hell should I suffer alone?

Five minutes ago I decided that I wanted to check out the initial reaction to the infamous "fart orgy wedding" among the speds at reddit, and thus I resolutely searched "star wars fart reddit" and found....this

No need to thank me. Here is some music to listen to while you peruse this piece of poetry just to take in the majesty of where this fucking franchise is at these days.
Because you looked it up yourself, and so should suffer alone due to not thinking of the sad bastards that would get off on it.
 
Doomcock never asks for proof when he receives those "rumors" from the so-called "sources", so it's probably someone fucking with him.
I actually once tried sharing info with him ages ago about GE and IX, and even provided pics, but he wouldn't respond to any messages. It seems his "sources" might just be personal friends of his who are not that in-tune with anything but he trusts them too much regardless.

In more lolcow related news, it seems Wookieepedo's leading Disney editors have no concept of privacy. With their most prominent contributors behind Lewisr sharing as much info as they can about themselves, and most even share their birthdates, locations and birthplaces. But this one pretty much posted his entire history.
Unsurprisingly a Bernie Bro, lite-anarchist, pro-BLM protestor, and we wuz Kangs theorist who's as pale as Talcum X (the complete Soyboy package) named Javier Brugue Gonzales from Peru (no doxing here Javi. He just left all this crap out in the open) whose whole job is basically monitoring social media all day, so its no surprise that he's the ultimate twitter drone and has enough free time to spend hours upon hours each day on Wookieepedo.
It's as if Disney's most ardent contributors and supporters are just generic palefaced soy lads only interested in Disney shit because it agrees with them politically. How can anyone be this proud of sharing their entire personal history on a wiki of all things?

Also killing cops is okay and terrorism is okay.
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Also protesting against corona is wrong and spreads viruses according to him, but protesting for BLM without masks is a duty. Guy hardly ever has anything of his own to say and just parrots others opinions. Fucker can't even use caps.

And Wookieepedo's biggest contributor who only sleeps 4 hours a day (2 hours now) is back. Apparently he's not a Lucasfilm employee, he's just a dedicated british weirdo with no life.
Also which one of you cheeky bastards vandalized his page?

In other news, according to @Itchy Bacca, Lucasfilm's partnership specialist with EA has been MeToo'd. And Filoni may really be in charge of everything now. Sure, give control to the furry in the cowboy hat rather than someone like Favreau who knows his shit and knows to listen to feedback rather than focus on his personal fanfiction.
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Because you looked it up yourself, and so should suffer alone due to not thinking of the sad bastards that would get off on it.
Frankly the only think making me suffer is the fact that in-canon you could actually cobble together an explanation for the presence of mexican food in star wars given both the fact ET is canonically part of the setting as of TPM and whatever the fuck the "lore" is with galaxys edge

I actually once tried sharing info with him ages ago about GE and IX, and even provided pics, but he wouldn't respond to any messages. It seems his "sources" might just be personal friends of his who are not that in-tune with anything but he trusts them too much regardless.

Yeah imma be highly doubtful of this latest theory of his. It is far too wish-fulfilment to be anywhere near the truth, as even disney wouldnt pull a "erm....the sequel trilogy never happened guiz" after everything they poured into it and how they would have a somewhat understandable viewpoint that it would be too alienating a step to the normies.

At absolute maximum the mouse eventually shits out a sequel-sequel trilogy that ends with rey restarting the post endor timeline at the cost of her own existence and thus paving the way for a "for realzies this time" sequel trilogy. Hell if they want to have their cake and eat it they could just turn it into a more drawn out and melodramatic version of X Men Days of Futures Past where she fixes the timeline and then wakes up in the "true" timeline at luke's thriving jedi academy with the hawt emo ben lusting after her while janitor finn cleans up rodian puke in the background or something, so as to theoretically win over both the oldfans and the shippers
 
Rey reckoned it would make a quick escape route if the ship was destroyed. This was a possibility, as her farts had weakened the structure of the ship and the stench had begun to make the metal twist and form. Taking off her breathalyzer, she decided she didn't mind the stink- in fact, she loved it. Strangely, Rey was aroused by the whole ordeal, her pussy dripping with anticipation. She sat on the bed and lifted up her legs.
Unironically better material than episodes 7-9
 
The next episode of Jedi Temple Challenge is up:

It's... not as good as the first three. The kids sound bored (probably because half of them are 14 years old and the others are also at least 12), Mary as AD-3 actually sounds sarcastic in a "I'm genuinely not in the mood, not playing a joke" kind of way at times, and even the story is mediocre.

Is it because of the bad views? Or is Disney already interfering with and fucking with it? I rather hope it's because the kids are just so "don't give a shit" that it's just a one off issue. Seriously, they seem to have no interest or enthusiasm except at the beginning.

ADDENDUM: I believe the big issue was that the kids were too old, and they may have been convinced to play by their parents, since their lack of enthusiasm and teamwork seemed to have a draining effect on the show. I don't think they should use kids that old anymore... 9 - 12 I'd say.
 
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The next episode of Jedi Temple Challenge is up:

It's... not as good as the first three. The kids sound bored (probably because half of them are 14 years old and the others are also at least 12), Mary as AD-3 actually sounds sarcastic in a "I'm genuinely not in the mood, not playing a joke" kind of way at times, and even the story is mediocre.

Is it because of the bad views? Or is Disney already interfering with and fucking with it? I rather hope it's because the kids are just so "don't give a shit" that it's just a one off issue. Seriously, they seem to have no interest or enthusiasm except at the beginning.

ADDENDUM: I believe the big issue was that the kids were too old, and they may have been convinced to play by their parents, since their lack of enthusiasm and teamwork seemed to have a draining effect on the show. I don't think they should use kids that old anymore... 9 - 12 I'd say.
From what I understand, the last bit apparently was the case due to a lot of difficulty in managing the kids. It also doesn't help that despite the show's premise, there's nothing to make kids comfortable who may not be familiar with Disney's crap. Which is why I think they should've made R2 and 3PO the co-hosts alongside Best to make casual kids identify with the show. Its also suffering from piss poor viewership and lack of advertising interest. They're best bet from here on out is to rely on stupidly young kids who are mindlessly compliant.

The game show along with the Mandalorian's first season are probably the only major projects that were actually good ideas, but as with the Disney Wars curse, it seems doomed to a lackluster fate, with Mandalorian being taken over by Filoni and the remains of the Story Group and now this show probably getting the boot despite probably being Disney/Lucasfilm's best original idea in years and that's not saying much when the best you can churn out of a once universally appealing multi-billion dollar franchise is a kids game show. Critics have also said that the show feels sort of dead without a proper audience to cheer the kids on and whatnot, so there's that. Also I find it odd how this show feels more closer to pre-Disney than Disney Wars. With the exception of the femdroid, almost every alien, reference and location mentioned or shown in the illustrated cutaways features only pre-Disney stuff, including the old canon design of the Greater Krayt Dragon (which Disney depicted as a generic winged earth dragon) and a Yuzzum which hasn't appeared in anything Disney since the buyout and were replaced by Filoni's gay chicken people in the shitty Resistance cartoon.
lol I doubt kids of any age are that enthusiastic about Star Wars in general, much less this shitty show.
Also this. Disney has really alienated the kid demographic. Most are only familiar with TFA in Disney's library which they only see as a generic oneshot summer blockbuster kind of movie despite being released in December, since that's pretty much what it was and why it was so easily consoooomed. The primary fanbase for Disney shit are college brats or grown ass Gen Ys, Boomers and Gen Xers like Kevin Smith who are blindly loyal to the franchise because of brand name alone rather than a genuine love for the characters, setting or the actual content of the product beyond superficial actor and production admiration.
 
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Now that someone else posted and I no longer fear doubleposting, that EckhartzLadder shill is mad because Disney stole more crap and doesn't even know in what movies their own stuff appeared in.
Despite this, expect him to go back to sucking Disney dick next week. But geez, Disney has no shame, and Porgcuck just keeps proving that they don't have the slightest notion of consistency outside of claiming "X character is the same X from X movie".

For those not interested in a TL;DR, Disney released another SW guide.
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Aside from stealing fanart and models from FractalSponge again for like the 100th time, Disney even mislabeled names and first appearances of things in the book. Like for example, the AT-TE is misnamed the MTT and is listed as first appearing in Phantom Menace, despite actually appearing in Attack of the Clones. Its nice to know Porgcuck is absolutely fantastic at his job.

The book was released today so it hasn't been fully explored yet. Also Ryder Windham who wrote a lot of guides back in the day which these Disney guides steal a lot from superficially hasn't received a single dime for these despite his complaints, so there goes another claim of Disney not using old stuff because they supposedly don't own it.
 
Watching some tRoS hate videos. It strikes me just how cargo cult Disney Wars is: they didn't have a plan for the trilogy.

I know we keep saying that, but really think about it a minute. George had a vague notion of a story, but he had no plan for a trilogy originally, the OT was definitely made up as it went along.

You can tell Disney thought they could just replicate that "fly by the seat of our pants" storytelling and make easy money.

But George Lucas? He had no idea that his movie was going to have any success. He made a story, then thought "well if I only got to make 1, what would it be?" and picked out the segment that would be the best of his options. By contrast Disney went into this brier patch with 3 movies guaranteed. The only way they couldn't get all 3 movies to theaters would be if every ticket sold for the first one gave people stage 3 cancer AND impotence. Heck they talked about doing yearly films from the start. And they STILL didn't plan it. EVEN THOUGH 2 years to make a movie is really tight schedule wise - especially if it's big budget. (For example: the first transformer film was 4-7 years to make depending on how you want to start the clock)

Know something I've learned watching a lot of GoodBadFlicks and SFDebris talking about film backgrounds? That the development time is a REAL good indicator of the quality. The shorter the time they have to make it, the worse it's going to be (the exceptions are notable because they are exceptions - and they're also usually done by VERY experienced people who know their craft well). Yes you can have a film go too long and end up in development hell too (the opposite end of the scale, where the movies suck again). But great movies always seem to have a history of steady, consistent work on the project from start to finish to really polish it.

ANY project manager worth a shit would have absolutely worked out a plan. They should have loaded as much work as they could in the front end since there would be such a crunch in the back. Hell they should have all but filmed all 3 movies in a row. At the very lease, when the first film is wrapping up, the 2nd film should have been starting secondary filming while the 3rd movie is finalizing its script.

Nah, let's wing it just like George did - even though he put 3 years in between each movie.

No plan. Absolutely none whatsoever.

This is almost as dumb as alphabet squadron.

I want a brutally honest tell all book of Disney wars - it will be the most entertaining thing they ever did.
 
So I've started a post-ROTJ legends book reread. Finished the Zhan trilogy (as always, fucking great stuff) and I've moved on to the academy trilogy. Though in hindsight, I really wish the Dark Empire stuff had a book adaptation along with the comic. It's kinda a disconnect to go straight from Luke at the end of the Zhan trilogy to the post-Dark Empire Luke at the beginning of Jedi Search.

Even despite not being as high quality, you can feel the soul and good will behind it. It doesn't have this nihilistic outlook that permeated Last Jedi. I found myself forgiving a lot of the insane shit like the Sun Crusher because of it. (It also helps that the next book, I, Jedi retconned and readjusted things from the academy trilogy.)

I'm not sure if I'll go through the Corellian trilogy and stuff like Crystal Star or jump straight to the New Jedi Order books yet. Regardless it's been a fun ride. It utterly blows my mind that Disney effectively pissed away so much good and replaced it with a uninspired dead end with the sequel trilogy. Yeah, the old EU had issues, but for the most part it worked and worked well.
 
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So I've started a post-ROTJ legends book reread. Finished the Zhan trilogy (as always, fucking great stuff) and I've moved on to the academy trilogy. Though in hindsight, I really wish the Dark Empire stuff had a book adaptation along with the comic. It's kinda a disconnect to go straight from Luke at the end of the Zhan trilogy to the post-Dark Empire Luke at the beginning of Jedi Search.

Even despite not being as high quality, you can feel the soul and good will behind it. It doesn't have this nihilistic outlook that permeated Last Jedi. I found myself forgiving a lot of the insane shit like the Sun Crusher because of it. (It also helps that the next book, I, Jedi retconned and readjusted things from the academy trilogy.)

I'm not sure if I'll go through the Corellian trilogy and stuff like Crystal Star or jump straight to the New Jedi Order books yet. Regardless it's been a fun ride. It utterly blows my mind that Disney effectively pissed away so much good and replaced it with a uninspired dead end with the sequel trilogy. Yeah, the old EU had issues, but for the most part it worked and worked well.
Jedi Academy is also a really important trilogy in the grand scheme of things for the EU as it introduces Exar Kun who later goes on to be the big bad for the Tales of the Jedi comic series which laid the foundation for the Old republic era.
 
Oh God, if they do a bunch of live action shows on Disney+, its just going to turn into Marvel Netflix or CW DC universe.

Starts off good. I liked Daredevil. I liked Arrow and Flash originally.

But then you pile on show after show after show after show, and it just over-saturates things and becomes too much to follow. Punisher, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, and that piece of shit Iron Fist all became too much to follow, and then throw the crossover show Defenders on top of that, and its even more. CW, same thing. Arrow and Flash...ok fine. They we get Legends of Tomorrow, then Supergirl gets added, then I believe Constantine got added to the mix, and then Batwoman, and you have to watch all the shows to understand all the big crisis crossovers. And things got so cluttered that the original shows that were good, Arrow and Flash, took nose dives in quality as a result.

And here we go again. We get Mandalorian, which is pretty much almost universally praised. Well, NOW WE GOTTA DO MOAR!!!! We need an Ahsoka show, and a Thrawn show, and this that and the other! Can't follow it all! Well fuck you!

And this will have crossovers, and longer and longer seasons and so much bullshit that it'll just become a mess as one crew tries to manage it all.

Here's an idea. Why not just finish one show (lets say give Mando a season 2 with an ending) and then start the new project, and the make a new one when that one has run its course.

Star Trek kind of got it right. At most, they had two shows going concurrently, and wouldn't start the new one until one had wrapped up. They started DS9 towards the end of TNG's run. Then when TNG wrapped up, they did Voyager. Then when DS9 wrapped up, then they kicked off Enterprise. They never got to a point where they were trying to manage 4 or 5 shows at once.
 
Jedi Academy is also a really important trilogy in the grand scheme of things for the EU as it introduces Exar Kun who later goes on to be the big bad for the Tales of the Jedi comic series which laid the foundation for the Old republic era.
It's also important for showing some of the early upbringing of the Solo Twins. It could be my attachment to the characters talking, but I got major feels watching Luke play with them using Force Powers to help them levitate, or having a reluctant C-3PO read them a story. Sappy as they may be, they're still the kind of feel-good, familial wish-fulfillment that comes with the notion of established characters having children of their own. You want to see sweet moments like that, or at least I did.

Scenes like those, and the growth you see them undergo throughout Young Jedi Knights, went a long way to get me attached to Jaina and Jacen. By the time of NJO, you really feel like you've grown up with these characters.

Star Trek kind of got it right. At most, they had two shows going concurrently, and wouldn't start the new one until one had wrapped up. They started DS9 towards the end of TNG's run. Then when TNG wrapped up, they did Voyager. Then when DS9 wrapped up, then they kicked off Enterprise. They never got to a point where they were trying to manage 4 or 5 shows at once.
You know, speaking of Star Trek, these rumors about Filoni managing multiple television efforts for the Star Wars franchise, spreading his autism on multiple projects simultaneously without a challenger in sight, the first direct comparison that sprang into my mind is Alex Kurtzman and his unchallenged and rigid stranglehold on CBS' current attempts at a "Star Trek Shared Universe".

Now, I don't have the same hate-boner for Filoni that a lot of people on this thread do, but I 100% know and revile his capacity for self-indulgent narrative blunders and pet-character-serving mythology rape. If given enough power and unquestionable authority, he will actually become the Kurtzman of the Star Wars brand.
 
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Its definitely not looking promising. Those flight sims were amazing, but that shit just won't translate well in they way they're thinking. Especially today, and even more so with only a 5 player limit on both sides and only 4 fucking ships to choose from for each side.

the psvr rogue mission was fun as fuck, and that was only 20 minutes long. it always boggled my mind why EA never built on that considering all the shit was already in battlefront anyway, because it was probably one of the best star wars experiences I had in a long while (not that the bar was high to begin with with EA's nonexistant output). to sound dangerously soy, first time I couldn't stop grinning like an idiot (mainly due to vr, experiencing an x-wing this way was mindblowing).

however it's gonna suck because a) it's not done by criterion like the original version, b) nu-wars is drek and c) I can already see the gameplay to be even more mindnumbingly dumb than battlefront with an even worse grind. the focus on multiplayer means it will also be dead in the water since it's not fortnite, enjoy EA dropping all support after a few months.

But then you pile on show after show after show after show, and it just over-saturates things and becomes too much to follow. Punisher, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, and that piece of shit Iron Fist all became too much to follow, and then throw the crossover show Defenders on top of that, and its even more. CW, same thing. Arrow and Flash...ok fine. They we get Legends of Tomorrow, then Supergirl gets added, then I believe Constantine got added to the mix, and then Batwoman, and you have to watch all the shows to understand all the big crisis crossovers. And things got so cluttered that the original shows that were good, Arrow and Flash, took nose dives in quality as a result.

the problem with arrowverse was the absolute bottom-tier writing over time, not the amount of stuff they did. arrow was nice as in not!batman, S1 was pretty good, S2 even better (manu bennett as deathstroke was pure kino), then the main writer moved over to flash (s1 was also pretty good for what it was, nice fanservice without raping the lore too hard) and arrow got dragged down with that tumblr shit olicity shipping (I mean it's CW after all, so it was to be expected, but come on...). legends had a nice doctor who thing going, supergirl was original CBS (and the writing was MUH STONK WOMYN shit from the start), constantine got added due to fan demand after nbc canceled the series.
the crossovers itself were pretty standalone (least the first few ones, stopped watching most of it later on), knowing stuff was just a bonus. and it gave us nazi supergirl at least.

I mean, the potential for greatness was always there, they just fucked it up. this is where I lost it:

While there’s no doubt Disney wants to splatter their brand on the game, I’d guess there is also some logistics issues with the B-wing.

All of the other ships have guns on the side or below the cockpit. The B-wing has that weird frame where the guns can be to either side or below the cockpit. The developers would have to design the game to incorporate the unusual configuration of the B-wing and knowing EA, they wouldn’t want too much complexity in their games.

eh, technically it's not that hard really. the x-wing already had movable wings, it's basically just telling there game where the pewpew is coming from.
 
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So I've started a post-ROTJ legends book reread. Finished the Zhan trilogy (as always, fucking great stuff) and I've moved on to the academy trilogy. Though in hindsight, I really wish the Dark Empire stuff had a book adaptation along with the comic. It's kinda a disconnect to go straight from Luke at the end of the Zhan trilogy to the post-Dark Empire Luke at the beginning of Jedi Search.

Even despite not being as high quality, you can feel the soul and good will behind it. It doesn't have this nihilistic outlook that permeated Last Jedi. I found myself forgiving a lot of the insane shit like the Sun Crusher because of it. (It also helps that the next book, I, Jedi retconned and readjusted things from the academy trilogy.)

I'm not sure if I'll go through the Corellian trilogy and stuff like Crystal Star or jump straight to the New Jedi Order books yet. Regardless it's been a fun ride. It utterly blows my mind that Disney effectively pissed away so much good and replaced it with a uninspired dead end with the sequel trilogy. Yeah, the old EU had issues, but for the most part it worked and worked well.
Dark Empire probably would've benefited more if it had been a multimedia project rather than a two series comic. It definitely needed way more planning or expanding especially when the superior Thrawn Trilogy was right next to it, but I will say that at least its a better comeback story than IX where your favorite heroes actually succeed on their own and I honestly loved the art and sith lore. But one thing that always made me wonder is what the story would've been like if they had gone with the original idea of the villain being a Vader impostor instead before George intervened.

I, Jedi is an example of back when Lucasfilm actually listened to its fans and cared about feedback. Something that's been sorely lost in Current Year.

The Corellian Trilogy has some inconsistency issues regarding timeline stuff, mostly the founding of the Empire but that's more of a problem caused by the prequels because it honestly followed established lore at the time pretty well (and you could probably fix that issue with a little abridging) and it still serves as a great backstory for Han. It's honestly Solo: A Star Wars Story with better characterization and pacing. So I highly suggest you give it a go.

Crystal Star can definitely be skipped with little consequence, but it is pretty good for meme and shitposting fuel if nothing else, which is bizarre since the author had written less unusual Star Trek books in the past apparently. Although I'll admit its a guilty pleasure just because of how ridiculously bizarre it is. Its like the Start Trek V of Star Wars.
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Oh God, if they do a bunch of live action shows on Disney+, its just going to turn into Marvel Netflix or CW DC universe.

Starts off good. I liked Daredevil. I liked Arrow and Flash originally.

But then you pile on show after show after show after show, and it just over-saturates things and becomes too much to follow. Punisher, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, and that piece of shit Iron Fist all became too much to follow, and then throw the crossover show Defenders on top of that, and its even more. CW, same thing. Arrow and Flash...ok fine. They we get Legends of Tomorrow, then Supergirl gets added, then I believe Constantine got added to the mix, and then Batwoman, and you have to watch all the shows to understand all the big crisis crossovers. And things got so cluttered that the original shows that were good, Arrow and Flash, took nose dives in quality as a result.

And here we go again. We get Mandalorian, which is pretty much almost universally praised. Well, NOW WE GOTTA DO MOAR!!!! We need an Ahsoka show, and a Thrawn show, and this that and the other! Can't follow it all! Well fuck you!

And this will have crossovers, and longer and longer seasons and so much bullshit that it'll just become a mess as one crew tries to manage it all.

Here's an idea. Why not just finish one show (lets say give Mando a season 2 with an ending) and then start the new project, and the make a new one when that one has run its course.

Star Trek kind of got it right. At most, they had two shows going concurrently, and wouldn't start the new one until one had wrapped up. They started DS9 towards the end of TNG's run. Then when TNG wrapped up, they did Voyager. Then when DS9 wrapped up, then they kicked off Enterprise. They never got to a point where they were trying to manage 4 or 5 shows at once.
It almost feels like they're trying to overwhelm us with so much fucking content. All it does is thoroughly saturate the brands and makes them feel whored out. This was a problem right from the get-go with Disney when they made the ludicrous promise of wanting to make SW movies annual events. The end result is Disney's EU being as big as the old one and twice as cluttered despite its significantly shorter lifespan.
Apologies if this was posted already, but here’s another case of why Disney is getting fucked hard by corona.

Disneyland won’t open in July now. Kiss Galaxy’s Edge goodbye after this.
Holy shit. I hope the government doesn't bail them out.
 
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