U.S. Riots of May 2020 over George Floyd and others - ITT: a bunch of faggots butthurt about worthless internet stickers

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qk125Cp_3w

Mr Bones, you can stop now. Mr Bones please.

The resulting budgetary and programmatic priorities may include but not be limited to increasing minority home ownership and access to other affordable housing, increasing minority business ownership and career opportunities, strategies to grow equity and generational wealth, closing the gaps in health care, education, employment and pay, neighborhood safety and fairness within criminal justice.”

Where's the money gonna come from?

 

[Rich Evans Apologist]

everything you propose falls exactly under this category: bus niggers into white schools so they can disrupt and ruin them, transplant niggers into white areas using govt housing schemes to disrupt and ruin white communities, mo money fo dem programs so you can increase the rate at which white people are bled dry to subsidize nigger parasites.

all your ideas are already in place, have already been done, are already established and implemented, and have been for decades. all they have done is make life worse for white people, while niggers aren't any better off than before either (some would argue they're actually worse off now than 40 years ago)
so what the FUCK makes you think that "keep doing what we're doing and just pump more money into gibs for nigs!" will now magically have the exact opposite effect of what it has been for the past few decades?

Let's ignore that hitting zoning regulations benefits everyone in cities, or that EITC benefits everyone. Let's ignore that hitting the lower end of the economic spectrum benefits everyone, even if it disproportionate to total population benefits blackie.
Your position is that when any of these happen, everything's worse for the population where it does. And that this is happening right now.

What are you gonna do about it? If the government says, hey there pal, brought you your favorite - more black kids. What are you gonna do about it? Are you gonna look for another strongarm savior like Trump, only to be sold out again? Are you gonna move somewhere else, and keep posting about the eradication of the proud white traditions being genocided?

I'd contend with the idea that bussing black students in to posh little yuppie suburbs of the cultural elite has a deletorious effect, but I don't even need to.

What are you gonna do about it?

 

[Terrorist]

People with cash move into the places with the best schools, which blocks out all people without cash from getting their kids out of shithole schools. The only people that get bussed opt into it (in this model, at least; forced bussing/integration is dubious), meaning the parents are likely to be invested in the behavior of their kids - and the schools are able to discipline them. This can also work for white kids born in shit neighborhoods as much as it can blackie. The system as-is benefits people with exorbitant capital already built-up -- not "I worked hard so my kids can go to a good school," more "I am from the upper middle class and don't want my kids to interact with the working class at all."

but yeah, the alternative of bitch on the internet and wish for a mythical ethnostate is much much better - or rolling over to jamal's BBC ushering in a control economy because "none of these other alternatives will work, we just need to ship them to liberia, that's realistic" was the counterargument. I'm drawing from Sowell and Thomas here.

Are you worried about closing the white-asian gap, or the white-jewish gap? Probably not, because you feel like you've got a fair shake. You're probably mad at places where you feel like you don't. I'm not really concerned with 'closing' the gap so much as just getting rid of the barriers that are clear and obvious, like the design of the damn welfare system. Get rid of these barriers, make the country as close to 'equality of opportunity' for everyone as you can, and then let the chips fall where they may. Demographics will never have fully equal achievement stats - break apart 'white' into what european demographics you can and it's myriad as well. But the concern is moreso that you just give people the chance to fail on their own, regardless of who they are, as should be the American spirit. Rather than the current idea of "yassss upper middle class, let me protect your vested interests and manipulation of the system until I die"

Affluent white areas that pop up only because they abuse government regulations - I don't like 'em. I don't have a problem with them in suburbs, but they've been chewing into poor neighborhoods for a while now, largely thanks to the retardation that is rent control mixed in with zoning. White flight from cities had part to do with that, part to do with the insane violence rates. 2000-2010, these poor neighborhoods (of all demographics) had flattened rates of violence thanks to better policing and declining rates on the whole, but fell captive to NIMBYs and progressives. Now, luxury apartments aimed at out-of-town tech workers and chinese real estate have been popping up costing 3-4x the average rent for the area all in the span of the same 2-3 years, all under the flag of the same 1-2 capital funds. I don't quite like that.

Why are these white people affluent and able to create these affluent areas? Is this abuse of the system or people succeeding on their own merits? If white people benefit from the capital their parents built up by virtue of being born, what's wrong about that? One moment you're talking like a Marxist and the next like a libertarian.

Why are blacks not? You assume that if blacks had more opportunities they'd perform better just like poor whites might, but this isn't the case. In every institution, blacks are already given opportunities unavailable to whites, whether it's scholarships, business loans, or hiring preference, and they still fail to compete. Under real equality of opportunity without these opportunities, they'd fail even worse. If you're fine with the chips falling where they may, I'll grant that, but that's where the chips would logically fall. Like I said, I'm in favor of some of the stuff you're proposing on its own merits, I just don't agree it'll solve any problems for blacks.

Tangent but: Idc about White-Asian or White-Jewish gaps. As long as white people are doing well and given a fair shake, congrats to the other groups. No matter how smart or successful those others are, I'd still favor a homogenous society, due to the harmful effects diversity has on social cohesion. Other groups can prosper somewhere else, and I wish them luck as long as they don't interfere with my own.

What are you gonna do about it?

What does my capacity or willingness to perform racial rebellion have to do with the merits of bussing, or anything else you suggested? It's funny you argue in favor of it as good for all, but then reveal you clearly see it as a negative for areas blacks are bussed into (karmic punishment for the white suburbs' pussy-assedness; I agree!) through snide remarks like this.

 

[Harvey Danger]

Apparently a lot of those van commando videos are coming from this twitter account. It's kind of weird, clearly pro-BLM and anti-cop, but also seems to be a lefty boogaloo type. Or at least anarchist.

There's more pics of anonymous camo units, this time with tear gas and paintball guns. Cozca claims some of them are Border Patrol without any proof, and speculates others are Marines.

And we're not the only one suspecting gay ops here. The protesters don't seem to know anyone who got picked up.

There's a bunch of videos on there, I'll grab and post as I'm able. Most of the tweets are archived already.

Now, I'm not so sure this is an Antifa op. Maybe it's feds being lazy.

 

[Rich Evans Apologist]

Why are these white people affluent and able to create these affluent areas? Is this abuse of the system or people succeeding on their own merits? If white people benefit from the capital their parents built up, what's wrong about that? One moment you're talking like a Marxist and the next like a libertarian.

Why are blacks not? You assume that if blacks had more opportunities they'd perform better just like poor whites might, but this isn't the case. In every institution, blacks are already given opportunities unavailable to whites, whether it's scholarships, business loans, or hiring preference, and they still fail to compete. Under real equality of opportunity without these benefits, they'd fail even worse. If you're fine with the chips falling where they may, I'll grant that, but that's where the chips would logically fall.

Idc about White-Asian or White-Jewish gaps...as long as white people are doing well and given a fair shake, congrats to the other groups. No matter how smart or successful those others are, I'd still favor a homogenous society, due to the harmful effects diversity has on social cohesion. Those groups can prosper somewhere else, and I wish them luck as long as they don't interfere with my own.

It's white people, jews, blacks, asians, hispanics - whoever who is rich. Most of the country was white during periods of overt segregation; thus it follows that most rich people at that time were white. Since the explosion of H1Bs and shit like that, now it's a much more mixed crew of people rushing in to scoop up the limited housing spots around schools that do well. As demographics continue to shift, this shifts even more.

Let's say that blacks had more opportunities, which were afforded purely on socioeconomic qualifications. And they proceed to still do poorly. I'm not bothered by this - let the chips fall at that point. Let black communities get their shit together... or not, once there's no easy boogeyman politicians can point to. Those scholarships have been given to kids who had potential at a normal school but got shoved into exceptional ones where they were guaranteed to fail - another Sowell point. Those business loans are given the companies that can't cut it- not unlike subprime loans. Affirmative action has dragged on for way too long, and now means that companies shop around for the rare affluent black kid to fill the spot, otherwise just forcing more work on employees if hiring a white guy would break their quota.

All of these are designed stupidly. You and I will disagree on whether any attempt should be made in the first place, and there is no bridge to sway either of us on that point. But I agree in scrapping the systems as-is; they're bad, poorly designed systems. I just argue for a second step - smarter programs, cheaper programs, less intrusive programs as opposed to just bloating out the existing frameworks. Affirmative action is one you can just drop altogether; makes sense to me to do in 1964 for a short period of time, but not in 2020.

To the point of homogeneity, I can sympathize with that towards European states. I don't think Germany or Sweden or Poland should feel obliged to take in extensive numbers of immigrants or refuges (though I generally support their giving small sums towards international aid programs, especially for former colonies), and I don't really care if Hungary or Latvia or wherever enact programs to essentially preserve their culture and cultural identity. I just can't feel that way about the US, which has since its inception been expanding and broadening and incorporating more and more different peoples, going out of its way to erode any semblance of a monoculture - right down to the design of its dual-federalist system of government.

 

[Particle Bored]

In waste removal news:

"The statue, which featured Reid and replaced a statue of slave-trader Edward Colston, lasted just 24 hours in Bristol, England, before the city council removed it and took it to a museum."

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What an awesome statue pose for a craned removal.

"Up, up, and awaaaaaaaay!"

 

[General Disarray]

Mr Bones, you can stop now. Mr Bones please.

The resulting budgetary and programmatic priorities may include but not be limited to increasing minority home ownership and access to other affordable housing, increasing minority business ownership and career opportunities, strategies to grow equity and generational wealth, closing the gaps in health care, education, employment and pay, neighborhood safety and fairness within criminal justice.”

Where's the money gonna come from?

See, that's how the housing crisis was exacerbated - blacks were "disparately impacted" by credit checks and employment requirements so the Gov said, "Hey Banks, listen up. We're gonna need you to toss out every metric you use to issue solid mortgages, and reduce interest rates to near zero, so you can get more black people to sign on to a house." Basically just accept any application that comes across your desk. We see how that worked out. Where are these magic houses going to appear? How can a family that can't afford one, keep up with the taxes and maintenance? Or will that be free as well?

 

[Standardized Profile]

The thing that makes me most suspicious about these clips is how calm the protesters and filmers sound. These people freak the fuck out if a cop merely pushes them or grabs at a flashlight, and they go into hysterical shrieking mode whenever someone gets arrested.

But in both videos, they just lamely recite bullet points. "You're violating his rights. How are we supposed to know who you are? Use your words."

Scripted propaganda. The themes are a faceless evil government violating the rights of peaceful Antifas, and how Antifas will keep the faith with those who have been imprisoned. And because the faceless evil government has no identifying marks, they can be whoever you want them to be. HSI, Border Patrol, military, US Marshals, Antifas have objections to all of these, and they see all of them in these masked individuals.

And conveniently, the movement who makes it a point to ALWAYS capture every wrongthinker's license plate so they can harass them, failed to get a plate number again.

It's not a GSA plate, so it's not a Federal vehicle. I don't know why Feds wouldn't use their own vehicles if it was a Federal operation. Especially if they were exfiltrating a CI or undercover while trying to maintain their cover. They'd use flashing lights and sirens and do a little roughhousing, make a big show of it.

Even if it's off, it's still too elaborate for Antifa twits. I could be wrong, maybe I'm not giving Antifa enough credit.

Don't just the entire Antifa network on the useful idiots fighting the street war. That's what you're seeing, but there's more going on. The American Revolution looked like twits LARPing as injuns throwing tea off a boat--but there was more going on. The Nazis looked like twits breaking shop windows--but there was more going on.

Where's the money gonna come from?

Equality = the government treats everyone equally. Equity = the government takes some of your money, keeps a lot of it, and gives the rest to someone else.

 

[Syaoran Li]

So, has there been any new flareups outside the usual hotbeds in Portland and Seattle?

Or has the actual riot bullshit finally sputtered out for good? (Excluding Portland, of course)

 

[OlgaOfKiev]

Where's the money gonna come from?

 

[Terrorist]

All of these are designed stupidly. You and I will disagree on whether any attempt should be made in the first place, and there is no bridge to sway either of us on that point. But I agree in scrapping the systems as-is; they're bad, poorly designed systems. I just argue for a second step - smarter programs, cheaper programs, less intrusive programs as opposed to just bloating out the existing frameworks. Affirmative action is one you can just drop altogether; makes sense to me to do in 1964 for a short period of time, but not in 2020.

Earlier programs were less-intrusive, cheaper, and (relatively) smarter...but failed, and the response to failure was to bloat them, leading us to today.

Attempts at austerity either get blocked or fail to make a dent. Your smarter systems might hypothetically work, but this doesn't matter if the black political class rejects you. In many cities, you'd be about as well received by them as an autistic Neo-Nazi calling for an ethnostate would, because an end to bloated programs means fewer kickbacks and votes for them.

 

[Andre Richardson]

This is the new autonomous zone. It is called CLAT (Chinook Land Autonomous Territory). There has been a claim that the zone has been dismantled ever since. But, I can’t seem to verify.

 

[ObeseScreamingBlackMan]

Use your words!

Now I'm just wondering why you're so serious about convincing us that the 69th Minivan Streetgrab Division operations that have been going on in multiple municipalities for nearly a month are obviously NOT Feds.

(I kid, friend. please don't send your glowbuddies to cavity search me and throw me in gitmo)

 

[The Ultimate Ramotith]

Even today, people on Twitter keep putting up a lot of videos of police brutality.

https://archive.vn/2JH7o

https://archive.vn/bA9Wm

This has me feel split. While police brutality is bad, getting rid of all police is obviously going to lead to an explosion of crime and otherwise chaos.
Then there is how those videos are coming up now of all cases... or that we are seeing only clips.

 

[stupidpieceofshit]

This is the new autonomous zone. It is called CLAT (Chinook Land Autonomous Territory). There has been a claim that the zone has been dismantled ever since. But, I can’t seem to verify.
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Oh boy, if this keeps up, the feds might just react (Hello 6 minutes of non spot tear gas and pepper bullets 2) since its in front of the federal courthouse including the street, and antifa has tried to burn down / take over the federal court house many many many times.

Even today, people on Twitter keeps putting up a lot of videos of police brutality.

https://archive.vn/2JH7o

https://archive.vn/bA9Wm

This has me feel split. While police brutality is bad, getting rid of all police is obviously going to lead to an explosion of crime and otherwise chaos.
Then there is how those videos are coming up now of all cases... or that we are seeing only clips.

After watching a ton of bodycam footage, doughnut operator, etc, its safe to say these are most likely edited clips/started recording only after the police stated to use justified forced (so you only see what the police do) to make police look bad when they were attacked first (or refused to leave a car which they are required to do under US Supreme Court Case Law).

 

[Sneed's Feed And Seed]

This is the new autonomous zone. It is called CLAT (Chinook Land Autonomous Territory). There has been a claim that the zone has been dismantled ever since. But, I can’t seem to verify.

Aww, they could have made it an Integrated Territory and had their leader be the CLIT Commander.

 

[Forgetful Gynn]

You're really going to use Google Translate for that? Anybody who has had to learn a second language understands that 1-to-1, word-for-word direct translations often don't make sense when put into the context of linguistic use, and sometimes involve words with several definitions. 'Herr' in German is one such word. It can mean 1) Man, 2) Gentleman, 3) Master (not in the sense of "dancing master or master cabinet-maker", that is "Meister") 4) Lord, 5) God ("Herr im Himmel").

I intentionally used the source that would be the most biased against my position yet still widely recognizable. But thanks for backing up my claim that "history" takes the absolute worst interpretation of "herr" out of convenience.

 

[Confused Doggo]

Pretty much. I work with hardcore Catholics and the secretary is playing video's from Facebook about all the rioting and violence. They would never believe mainstream media.

I've also seen the dedication to the business. They would defend it when pushed.

I know I'm not supposed to do this, but this was set up too well:

 

[Otterly]

Rehabilitation programs reduce recidivism if they incorporate proven principles and are targeted to specific offenders. Research demonstrates that offenders who earn a high school equivalency diploma while behind bars are more likely to get jobs after release

Prison should rehab those it’s able to IF society isn’t harmed by them being released. So a kid who had a shit upbringing, has done some petty crime, and commits to education and bettering themselves deserves a second chance and can probably be rehabilitated if they work for it. Child abusers can’t be rehabilitated. Some people are just unable to operate in society. Some people have committed crimes so heinous that even if they reform, they shouldn’t be let out.

norway is an interesting model but it has a number of differences from other countries. Norway really does have equality of opportunity and so it has far less of the glaring poverty other countries have. It has high education levels, a homogenous population and the money to spend on prisons. There are no sprawling ghettos in Norway. There is no real underclass. And historically the last few decades they’ve not had much crime. Brevik’s sentence caused a lot of consternation because he will be out in 21 years, theres no life in prison in the regular prison service. There’s an increasing sense in the scandi/Nordic countries that the old system is no longer working because of the influx of gangs and foreign criminals.

Back to those who can’t operate in society. When we closed the asylums it was done with good intentions (well that and to save money.) but there is a proportion of society who can not operate safely in the real world and some of them just need very intensive care while others are a danger to others as well as themselves. Prisons are FULL of these people, and prisons are not dealing with them effectively. they will never be ‘ok’ or ‘better.’
I’m not advocating bringing back the old asylum system but we do need to face that some people just need some kind of secure care And pay for it. . Society has tried to accommodate these people in the community and look what’s happened - epic levels of drugs/mentally unstable hobos/random killings. I dont know what the answer is, the old asylum system was brutal but it kept society safer.
A large part of what we are seeing now is the result of decades of naive do gooders who have no idea how the underbelly of society exists and operates. Society needs structure and consequences or it will unravel.

 

[oldTireWater]

It's not a GSA plate, so it's not a Federal vehicle.

Government agencies will sometimes use rental vehicles in place of GSAs. I don't understand the regs, but for the duration of the rental contract they're treated just like a GSA; gas cards, allowed to transport weapons/ammo/explosives/filthy-asses, driven into the ground, etc. I think someone else said it didn't have rental bar-codes, but who knows.