2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[George Floyd Sneed]

These people don't understand timing. What good is spamming ads 3 months out? Apparently the Trump spending plan in 2016 that allowed them to spend much less money than Clinton was that most of the cycle they were spending a trickle but in the final few weeks dumped everything and just barraged the public with ads right at the end. Of course, the media who live off these ads hate that. It's just interesting that spending in fucking July is the bellwether when the headline the last year or two has been Republicans out raising the Democrats.

If the dems don't lose I can only think it is due to fuckery in the ballots.

Democrats have a political machine that goes into the process. Republicans do too but it’s not as wide or deep. So that’s why they outspend Republicans consistently. The big risk is that Trump is unable to get enough momentum going but I agree that most people don’t really give a shit until the final weeks. I’d have more confidence in a Bannon or Lewandowski-tier campaign manager to properly assess that risk, though. If their qualifications are how hard they kiss Jared Kushner’s ass, they probably won’t be able to pull that off.

 

[Candlelight Desolation]

That map seems right. But Washington and Oregon are not going red this year. Maybe sometime down the line. Doubtful Colorado goes red too.
This probably more likely:
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Also Ye had his first ralley in SC. And said this:
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I think there's a chance Washington state may go red this year; I remember it flashing red for a second on the Guardian's 2016 electoral map coverage before going blue.

 

[spiritofamermaid]

What does 2 + 2 equal?

4 - 1%
5 - 2%
Systemic racism - 97%

please jannies don't delete

 

[MrJokerRager]

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please jannies don't delete

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a mistake.

 

[Syaoran Li]

I think there's a chance Washington state may go red this year; I remember it flashing red for a second on the Guardian's 2016 electoral map coverage before going blue.

I know this is optimistic wishful thinking but I want Minnesota to go red this year. It's been pretty staunchly blue since the 70's and even went for Mondale in 84. California will never go red at all, but if you want a real bellwether for the future of the Democratic Party, watch Minnesota.

If they somehow go red because of the Minneapolis riots and that helps end in a Trump win then I will be a very happy camper.

I think the two states that might go from blue to red in 2020 compared to 2016 are going to be Minnesota and Virginia.

Minnesota was already trending increasingly purple and red outside the Twin Cities area and it's also possible that the BLM coup might be enough to get a silent majority to go out en masse and vote Republican and if Kanye winds up on the Minnesota ballot somehow then I could see at least a few black voters going for him instead of Biden, especially if Biden gets someone like Kamala or Klobuchar as his VP.

Virginia going red in 2020 will likely be a one-time thing and will probably be meant as a protest vote against Northam, BLM, and the NoVAcrats.

Once again, if Kanye can get on the Virginia ballot before his next depressive episode (given the Virginia deadline is one of the later ones, it's possible) he can probably get enough votes from black Millennials and Zoomers who hate Trump and Biden.

Even if Kanye's completely out of the question, I could see a lot of the blood red counties west of the Fall Line or even the more purple areas west of Richmond/NoVA that are still pissed at the Dems in Richmond to go out and vote red in large enough numbers for Virginia to be in play for 2020 (and maybe 2021 at the state level) but I still think Virginia will trend deep blue from 2022 onward.

The only reason why Minnesota might be in play is because it was already trending purple for most of the 2010's and because of the Minneapolis riots and I think Virginia might not be totally lost this year because Ralph Northam overplaying his hand and the Richmond BLM riots.

If Virginia flips red in 2020 (and 2021 for the state levels) it will be more of a one-time thing and the state will likely keep trending blue but if the impossible happens and Minnesota flips red in 2020, then I think it could very well end up as a perpetual purple state like Florida and Ohio are (as it is, Ohio is turning increasingly red)

 

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These people don't understand timing. What good is spamming ads 3 months out? Apparently the Trump spending plan in 2016 that allowed them to spend much less money than Clinton was that most of the cycle they were spending a trickle but in the final few weeks dumped everything and just barraged the public with ads right at the end. Of course, the media who live off these ads hate that. It's just interesting that spending in fucking July is the bellwether when the headline the last year or two has been Republicans out raising the Democrats.

If the dems don't lose I can only think it is due to fuckery in the ballots.

Well, lets also not forget that Hillary was having the media prop Trump up, giving him free ads, under the "pied piper" strategy, thinking he would be trivial to beat. Something tells me Trump won't be given any free media (but the DNC has been and will continue to get it).

 

[spiritofamermaid]

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It should concern Trump that the Democrats are being forced to spend massive amounts of money in states that were considered part of the "Blue Wall" before the last election? They're having to pump an enormous amount of money into states that were previously considered a safe bet, and that should concern Trump?

Hello, this is Bloomberg's billion dollars calling. I'm here to tell you that it doesn't matter how much you spend if you don't resonate with the voters.

 

[heyitsmike]

Hello, this is Bloomberg's billion dollars calling. I'm here to tell you that it doesn't matter how much you spend if you don't resonate with the voters.

And yet libtards like Kyle Kulinski continue to sperg out about campaign finance reform and "oligarchs" buying elections, etc etc.

At no point does he stop to consider that his hypothesis has just been decisively proven false.

 

[LargeChoonger]

I've been monitoring reddit chatter lately. There's a lot of instances of "when Biden wins" as opposed to "if Biden wins". 2016 anyone?

 

[heyitsmike]

I've been monitoring reddit chatter lately. There's a lot of instances of "when Biden wins" as opposed to "if Biden wins". 2016 anyone?

They still haven't learned their lessons from 2016.

But that's okay because repetition is the mother of learning. Let's just show them again.

 

[Someone Awful]

I know this is optimistic wishful thinking but I want Minnesota to go red this year. It's been pretty staunchly blue since the 70's and even went for Mondale in 84. California will never go red at all, but if you want a real bellwether for the future of the Democratic Party, watch Minnesota.

If they somehow go red because of the Minneapolis riots and that helps end in a Trump win then I will be a very happy camper.

I think the two states that might go from blue to red in 2020 compared to 2016 are going to be Minnesota and Virginia.

Minnesota was already trending increasingly purple and red outside the Twin Cities area and it's also possible that the BLM coup might be enough to get a silent majority to go out en masse and vote Republican and if Kanye winds up on the Minnesota ballot somehow then I could see at least a few black voters going for him instead of Biden, especially if Biden gets someone like Kamala or Klobuchar as his VP.

Virginia going red in 2020 will likely be a one-time thing and will probably be meant as a protest vote against Northam, BLM, and the NoVAcrats.

Once again, if Kanye can get on the Virginia ballot before his next depressive episode (given the Virginia deadline is one of the later ones, it's possible) he can probably get enough votes from black Millennials and Zoomers who hate Trump and Biden.

Even if Kanye's completely out of the question, I could see a lot of the blood red counties west of the Fall Line or even the more purple areas west of Richmond/NoVA that are still pissed at the Dems in Richmond to go out and vote red in large enough numbers for Virginia to be in play for 2020 (and maybe 2021 at the state level) but I still think Virginia will trend deep blue from 2022 onward.

The only reason why Minnesota might be in play is because it was already trending purple for most of the 2010's and because of the Minneapolis riots and I think Virginia might not be totally lost this year because Ralph Northam overplaying his hand and the Richmond BLM riots.

If Virginia flips red in 2020 (and 2021 for the state levels) it will be more of a one-time thing and the state will likely keep trending blue but if the impossible happens and Minnesota flips red in 2020, then I think it could very well end up as a perpetual purple state like Florida and Ohio are (as it is, Ohio is turning increasingly red)

I'd add New Hampshire and at-large Maine too if we are assuming Virginia (doubtful) and Minneasota are at play. New Hampshire just barely went for Clinton by thousands of votes. If Trump can turn things around before the election, he could convince those several thousands voters to vote for him. Maine also had a significant swing in 2016 and is increasingly becoming purple. ME-1 is a lost cause for this election, but that might change in the future assuming a possible Trump victory.

Republicans need to figure out how to capture most of the Northeastern states, particularly Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Rhode Island, and Connecticut. All have strong white majorities and having them turn red may keep Republicans relevant on a national level for the 2020s.

 

[tehpope]

@Syaoran Li Minnie going red is possibly a reality. https://www.startribune.com/will-minnesota-be-tossup-state-in-2020-elections/500757901/

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It should concern Trump that the Democrats are being forced to spend massive amounts of money in states that were considered part of the "Blue Wall" before the last election? They're having to pump an enormous amount of money into states that were previously considered a safe bet, and that should concern Trump?

I don't think those were proper fundraisers. Just money funneled in from BLM thanks to ActBlue.

Also, Robert O'Rourke raised $80 million to win Texas. He only got within speaking distance from Ted "Zodiac Killer" Cruz. You can have all the money in the world but if you can't get your base to be excited about your candidate, it means nothing.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

@Syaoran Li Minnie going red is possibly a reality. https://www.startribune.com/will-minnesota-be-tossup-state-in-2020-elections/500757901/

I don't think those were proper fundraisers. Just money funneled in from BLM thanks to ActBlue.

Also, Robert O'Rourke raised $80 million to win Texas. He only got within speaking distance from Ted "Zodiac Killer" Cruz. You can have all the money in the world but if you can't get your base to be excited about your candidate, it means nothing.

The BLM donations going to ActBlue is such an obvious front it's laughable. I seriously wonder how much of that money stream will dry up in the coming months. Also, re O'Rourke, we can look at Ossoff in GA, too. He raised a ridiculous amount of money (from out of state...) that went towards a loss that anyone in Georgia could have seen coming. Interesting how Democrat losses + ridiculous amounts of money (O'Rourke, Ossoff, Bloomberg, HILLARY!) get memoryholed by the media as if they never occurred. It's always "on to the next race, this time we will win!"

 

[tehpope]

The BLM donations going to ActBlue is such an obvious front it's laughable. I seriously wonder how much of that money stream will dry up in the coming months. Also, re O'Rourke, we can look at Ossoff in GA, too. He raised a ridiculous amount of money (from out of state...) that went towards a loss that anyone in Georgia could have seen coming. Interesting how Democrat losses + ridiculous amounts of money (O'Rourke, Ossoff, Bloomberg, HILLARY!) get memoryholed by the media as if they never occurred. It's always "on to the next race, this time we will win!"

The dems spent like $69-70 million on getting Abrams elected in Georgia too. But at least the race was extremely close. Like Bush-Gore levels of close. https://www.ajc.com/news/state--reg...e-exceeds-100-million/R0brqTrDaxwkAXq4mLMHuK/

 

[heyitsmike]

The dems spent like $69-70 million on getting Abrams elected in Georgia too. But at least the race was extremely close. Like Bush-Gore levels of close. https://www.ajc.com/news/state--reg...e-exceeds-100-million/R0brqTrDaxwkAXq4mLMHuK/

Don't forget the money wasted on Amy McGrath, who only won her primary because of the early votes she banked. I think her opponent only spent like $2 million and yet gave her a run for her money.

 

[AnaV]

When and if the debates start I cannot wait to see Trump’s reaction if Biden says the no-no word.

 

[Candlelight Desolation]

When and if the debates start I cannot wait to see Trump’s reaction if Biden says the no-no word.

If anyone's curious, according to Ballotpedia, the first debate is scheduled for September 29.

 

[XYZpdq]

When and if the debates start I cannot wait to see Trump’s reaction if Biden says the no-no word.

nah, if Biden says a gamer word it's gonna be at a rally when a black conservative calls him out on some shit

 

[Sunday School Dropout]

That map seems right. But Washington and Oregon are not going red this year. Maybe sometime down the line. Doubtful Colorado goes red too.
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I apologize for asking, but are you fucking out of your mind? There is no way New Mexico or Nevada are going to flip red in this election or any election ever. Biden has more of a realistic chance of flipping Texas and Georgia in this election than any Republican winning Nevada or New Mexico in any presidential election for at least of few decades.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Don't forget the money wasted on Amy McGrath, who only won her primary because of the early votes she banked. I think her opponent only spent like $2 million and yet gave her a run for her money.
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And Beto, consider all the resources they sunk into Beto vs Cruz and they still couldn't win.