Creative works you enjoyed until politics happened - "How politics made me hate Welcome to Nightvale and other things"

[Moguro Fukuzou]

Disney starting to really hammer home how woke they are with their live action remakes of their classic titles killed any interest I might have had in their new works. Didn't super care until their live action Beauty and the Beast adaption came out, the animated original being one of my all time favorite Disney movies growing up, with how badly they butchered it for woke points. Actual sin how they butchered Belle's character, my favorite Disney princess, along with how unlikable they made the Beast. Their attempts to "fix" the story and its characterizations just didn't work, don't even get me started on how much of a downgrade Emma Watson is as Belle.

Even if I've completely sworn off ever seeing any of their new nostalgia cash grabs it still hurts to see what they do to them for the sake of "fixing" the problems of the original, seeing many of my old favorites with live action movies in production. I see Lilo & Stitch has one, Mulan got rid of the music and Shan Yu is gone as the villain, everything they did to The Lion King (No Jeremy Irons as Scar and muh realism). Boy, I can't wait for the eventual Tarzan live action remake for the eventual "fixing" of Jane even though she was just perfect.

 

[Red Hood]

If Superman and Wonder Woman (and other superheroes) are supposed to be examples as to why we should love immigration then it's a terrible analogy. The last time that I checked instead of a bunch of amazing people like that, we're getting people with IQ's in the 90's (often being generous here with that number) who commit violent crime at higher rates than the native population and who have kids that they can't afford.

Superman is specifically good not because he's an immigrant- most Kryptonians we see are shown to be dicks. What makes Superman good is because he's raised by humble, hard-working farmers Jon and Martha Kent to be an American. Superman assimilating and taking on American values is a big part of what makes him "good". He uses his extraordinary powers in support of truth, justice and the American way. If he came to Earth to impose his way on us...he would be Zod.

Garth Ennis did a good job of explaining it in Hitman #34.

Spoiler

 

[Nykysnottrans]

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[List of anti-fascist super heroes fighting Nazis]

That's funny because I distinctly remember seeing a Youtube video where Alan Moore was being interviewed on the topic of super heroes, and he insisted the very opposite of what is claimed here. Alan Moore argued that the very concept of a super hero being some kind of vigilante who is above the law is itself inherently fascist, because super heroes tend to take matters into their own hands bypassing the law and the right to a fair trial, which the anarchist Alan Moore saw as peak-fascism. Alan Moore, in the same interview, also denied that the authors of these books were supposedly progressively minded or that they supposedly had progressive/anti-fascist intentions, accusing them of not supporting unionization-drives amongst comic book designers because of how politically timid they actually were and unwilling to rock the boat of their publishers. Moore argued that these politically timid authors were using their super hero characters only to indulge their fantasies of power to distract themselves from their actual political cowardice IRL.

So super heros were supposedly "always leftwing anti-fascist", but they were also "inherently fascist"?
I guess this only goes to show how it totally depends on whom you ask.
Everyone has a different interpretation of what these characters represent depending on where they stand politically.

 

[Parthenos]

Honestly I don't care all that much about it beyond being a guilty pleasure that can occasionally be examined in other contexts. Funny enough, there's a lot of academic-oriented work on comics, but the vast majority of it relates to the -isms. The actual meat of comics related academia is almost non-existant beyond a few sources that kinda imply that this general medium is viable and needs to be looked at seriously. However, for every historical/literary paper related to comics, I get like 5-6 related to feminism or racial discussion and those just repeat the same talking points.

There is actually quite a bit of study that's been done in relation to comics, if you look at the medium as a whole even beyond capebooks. Everything from history to structure to style to genre, you name it. Especially if you go beyond the US, where reams and reams of European academic papers have been written about the Tintin series alone. Only recently, though, have leftists tried to interject and popularize their usual brand of academic drivel into the atmosphere of comics, and they've only targeted capebooks because of the Marvel movies' runaway success. That's literally all there is to it, otherwise they'd keep making zines and being creative like they used to instead of trying to hijack what's popular for a propaganda outlet.

If Superman and Wonder Woman (and other superheroes) are supposed to be examples as to why we should love immigration then it's a terrible analogy. The last time that I checked instead of a bunch of amazing people like that, we're getting people with IQ's in the 90's (often being generous here with that number) who commit violent crime at higher rates than the native population and who have kids that they can't afford.

There's a very interesting graphic novel about the immigrant experience called The Arrival by Shaun Tan. It actually uses surrealism in a unique way to illustrate getting along in a strange new world. Of course, it involves the protagonist getting in legally, finding a job, and trying to assimilate into his new culture so I think it's a much more balanced take on the topic. Also, it's entirely wordless and it's a personal favorite of mine.

 

[Alexander Thaut]

There is actually quite a bit of study that's been done in relation to comics, if you look at the medium as a whole even beyond capebooks. Everything from history to structure to style to genre, you name it. Especially if you go beyond the US, where reams and reams of European academic papers have been written about the Tintin series alone. Only recently, though, have leftists tried to interject and popularize their usual brand of academic drivel into the atmosphere of comics, and they've only targeted capebooks because of the Marvel movies' runaway success. That's literally all there is to it, otherwise they'd keep making zines and being creative like they used to instead of trying to hijack what's popular for a propaganda outlet.

Oh yeah I should have clarified I meant capeshit in particular. I've actually noticed that there's a distinct divide between good academic sources and bad ones in relation to capeshit in the US because of these idiots.

It's going to be fun to do because these idiots have actually left me with a lot of good topics for academic papers even at a graduate level because they just won't shut the fuck up about their talking points in the -isms.

 

[Sperghetti]

Disney starting to really hammer home how woke they are with their live action remakes of their classic titles killed any interest I might have had in their new works. Didn't super care until their live action Beauty and the Beast adaption came out, the animated original being one of my all time favorite Disney movies growing up, with how badly they butchered it for woke points. Actual sin how they butchered Belle's character, my favorite Disney princess, along with how unlikable they made the Beast. Their attempts to "fix" the story and its characterizations just didn't work, don't even get me started on how much of a downgrade Emma Watson is as Belle.

Even if I've completely sworn off ever seeing any of their new nostalgia cash grabs it still hurts to see what they do to them for the sake of "fixing" the problems of the original, seeing many of my old favorites with live action movies in production. I see Lilo & Stitch has one, Mulan got rid of the music and Shan Yu is gone as the villain, everything they did to The Lion King (No Jeremy Irons as Scar and muh realism). Boy, I can't wait for the eventual Tarzan live action remake for the eventual "fixing" of Jane even though she was just perfect.

That’s one of the major reasons I hate remakes: There’s always this underlying sentiment with them that the original somehow wasn’t good enough and can't enjoyed for its own merits, in it’s own context. It has to be updated to a "new and improved" version because people couldn’t possibly enjoy anything that wasn’t produced within the past few years.

People scoff at others who don't want remakes of things that held a lot of nostalgia for them. "Why are you so mad? It's not like the old one went anywhere!" My question is: Then why do we need to remake it at all? Why can't people just appreciate the original as it is? Oh, right, it's because you guys didn't actually like the original to begin with.

 

[Local Fed]

Why can't people just appreciate the original as it is? Oh, right, it's because you guys didn't actually like the original to begin with.

"How are people in 2020 supposed to relate to a cast that is so oppressively white and straight? Where is the message about progress and racial/gender equity in the original 'Ferris Bueller's Day Off'? Maybe 'The Shining' can be about repressed homosexuality?"

 

[Smug Cat]

Doctor Who. It actually really pisses me off because I like Jodie Whittaker's doctor. She plays the role with a good sense of fun. A bit Tennanty (the best doctor IMO). And then all the fucking companions are walking caricatures and the episodes are fucking ham-handed woke-ass garbage. Can they not have The Doctor regen into a chick and just fucking leave it there? Accept that they've fulfilled their state-mandated wokery for the season and just make the fucking show as normal? Christ.

I used to be a big Marvel fan. I watched the movies, bought the comics. IMO, there was a big drop in consistency from around 2010, and right now I'd say that DC's comics are probably more worth reading if only because they seem hesitant to make any major changes to their primary characters (after all, that hasn't gone well for them in the past.) It's funny, because people used to say that Marvel heroes were more realistic because of their inclusion of topics such as alcoholism and homosexuality, but now it's gone so far that some characters have become cariacatures.

The last straw for me was Saldin Ahmed's doomed 'Quicksilver' run, which was so laughably bad in all respects (especially the 'white europeans bad' gypsy sperging, out of nowhere) that it seems to have killed the character altogether. To my knowledge Quicksilver's not been featured in any major lineups and is barely mentioned, which is honestly a shame. I still pick up Punisher if it looks good (or Ennis is writing), but I've pretty much jumped ship at this point.

I'm not opposed to political comics (Hard Travelin' Heroes is still a masterpiece) but no one needs to be smacked over the head with it. There are better ways to show your support for Gays or Immigrants or Trannies than by just saying 'This character is gay now' or replacing them with a new, unfamiliar character to prove a point. I particularly don't like how the writers leave nothing up to the reader. You're told what side you should be on, and if you don't agree straight off the bat you're aligned with the bad guy. Frankly, I think that introducing minority characters out of the blue is just a lazy way to make the bad guys seem more evil - 'Not only is Doom trying to destroy the world, he's also racist!' Worse still, that ghastly trope wherin a bad guy says something like 'I might be evil but i'm not sexist!' or 'I shall institute the new world order, and also Trans rights!' implying that people who don't agree with them (the writer) politically are worse than the comic's standin for Hitler.

At this point I buy a comic based on the writer (and artist), rather than the character. It's ridiculous because in the past you could usually count on a character being the same regardless of writer, but now it's entirely dependant on the personal politics of whichever balding hack snagged the contract.

The Thor run where Jane Foster takes Thor's hammer and is immediately better than him in every way is actually incredibly fun to read for all the wrong reasons. It's so thunderously fucking bad that it's fucking hilarious. If you told me that run was a brilliant parody of overly woke comics, I would believe you.

I refuse to watch "STD" (talk about unfortunate acronyms) but the whole cast of characters seemed to be designed by woketards to be woke. Voyager and Enterprise are pretty weak shows as-is but aren't conceptually bad. (Plus, hearing Voyager's theme song, besides being great, reminds me of those innocent, carefree days of the late 1990s with my family...)

I genuinely love Voyager. It's probably partially because I watched it air as a kid, but I also think the long-term "gotta get home" plot really gave it something that the more closed-format Star Trek iterations lacked. The characters were fun and interesting (with a few exceptions, fucking Chakotay has all the appeal of soggy wonderbread lmfao) and they did some cool shit out there in the delta quadrant. It had underlying feminist themes or whatever, but they were underlying. It did the sort of thing where it made chick/minority characters and then just wrote them as people with real personalities and flaws and shit. No hitting anyone over the head with UHM EXCUSE ME THIS IS A WAMMEN HERE GRILL POWER or whatever the fuck. The worst I can think of is I think one of the alien races went "Uhm can someone come get they bitch?" when Janeway appeared on the viewscreen as the leader or whatever.

 

[Red Hood]

That’s one of the major reasons I hate remakes: There’s always this underlying sentiment with them that the original somehow wasn’t good enough and can't enjoyed for its own merits, in it’s own context. It has to be updated to a "new and improved" version because people couldn’t possibly enjoy anything that wasn’t produced within the past few years.

People scoff at others who don't want remakes of things that held a lot of nostalgia for them. "Why are you so mad? It's not like the old one went anywhere!" My question is: Then why do we need to remake it at all? Why can't people just appreciate the original as it is? Oh, right, it's because you guys didn't actually like the original to begin with.

Especially when it would be far less consumptive of resources to issue a re-release (they did this fairly often in the early 2000's- I remember seeing ET, The Wizard of Oz, and several other classics on the big screen in officially sanctioned re-releases).

 

[Sperghetti]

Especially when it would be far less consumptive of resources to issue a re-release (they did this fairly often in the early 2000's- I remember seeing ET, The Wizard of Oz, and several other classics on the big screen in officially sanctioned re-releases).

Agreed. If they're actually going for the nostalgia factor, you could probably easily get an audience of parents taking their young kids to see some of their childhood favorites. Hell, I'm pretty sure the first movie I saw in a theatre as a kid was a re-release of Bambi. (And really, do G-rated movies even exist anymore?)

I swear if these live-action Disney remakes aren't some elaborate money laundering or copyright-extending scheme, then they have to just be there so Disney can pad the stats of how much "new" content they produce.

 

[Red Hood]

copyright-extending scheme,

This is the only reason Disney itself still exists, really.

here's actually a very interesting graphic novel about the immigrant experience called The Arrival by Shaun Tan. It actually uses surrealism in a unique way to illustrate getting along in a strange new world.

For whatever it's worth, I similarly remember reading Anton Furst and his crew designed Gotham City in the 1989 Batman film as an exaggerated immigrant viewpoint of New York City.

[List of anti-fascist super heroes fighting Nazis]

That's funny because I distinctly remember seeing a Youtube video where Alan Moore was being interviewed on the topic of super heroes, and he insisted the very opposite of what is claimed here. Alan Moore argued that the very concept of a super hero being some kind of vigilante who is above the law is itself inherently fascist, because super heroes tend to take matters into their own hands bypassing the law and the right to a fair trial, which the anarchist Alan Moore saw as peak-fascism. Alan Moore, in the same interview, also denied that the authors of these books were supposedly progressively minded or that they supposedly had progressive/anti-fascist intentions, accusing them of not supporting unionization-drives amongst comic book designers because of how politically timid they actually were and unwilling to rock the boat of their publishers. Moore argued that these politically timid authors were using their super hero characters only to indulge their fantasies of power to distract themselves from their actual political cowardice IRL.

So super heros were supposedly "always leftwing anti-fascist", but they were also "inherently fascist"?
I guess this only goes to show how it totally depends on whom you ask.
Everyone has a different interpretation of what these characters represent depending on where they stand politically.

If you look at the original creators of DC's big three, you can kind of see the different kinds of comics creators in utero. Siegel and Schuster were arguably the ones most writing a power fantasy; William Marston was the proto-SJW comics type that wanted to use Wonder Woman to push a softened version of his sex pervert bondage/polyamory lifestyle on the public, and Bob Kane and Bill Finger arguably wanted to make a buck.

 

[UnsufficentBoobage]

Everyone has a different interpretation of what these characters represent depending on where they stand politically.

Yes, but why listen to what Alan Moore says in the first place?

 

[Rafal Gan Ganowicz]

I have an opposite take. I used to hate that faggot Morrisey until he came out as right-wing xenophobe. I still won't listen to his later garbage, but I've recently rebought a copy of Strangeways. Paint a Vulgar Picture is pure class!

 

[Red Hood]

Yes, but why listen to what Alan Moore says in the first place?

The man is a) a literal anarchist b) believes in actual magic and c) worships a Roman snake god.

Honestly, having written a couple notable comics doesn't mean we should lend too much credence to him because he's clearly a crackpot.

 

[Neil]

Webcomics before they all became blobby steven universe clone shit.
For example: Paranatural. It's the fucking worst version of art degradation I've ever seen. Worse yet, the creator started adding dumb shit like a lesbian muslim scientist lady, making the main teacher mentor guy gay with another mysterious male mentor teacher, etc etc etc.
It's not as horribly preachy as most other webcomics nowadays are where every new page is beating you over the head with the author's not-at-all subtle interracial yaoi/yuri fetish hidden under the thin guise of hyperliberal politics, but still.

Same with a lot of printed comics. Some of these damn things go way too hard with their "God bad, conservative values bad, mom and dad bad, family bad, stable job bad, normal life bad, heterosexuality bad" shit. I'm not conservative, but DAMN, calm the fuck down, tell your story first, get out your resentment towards your Christian church-going reaganite parents out later. It's whatever if it's an indie comic or graphic novel, but if it's a pre-established franchise, holy shit, get a life, find some friends vent your frustrations out elsewhere.

Same with (western) video games. Holy fuck, western devs and localizers, shut the hell up about your fucking political ideologies, like Banditotron said,

all you have to do is not tell your audience that you hate them.

quit fucking repeating to your audience over and over that they're bad people for thinking a certain way and maybe people will buy your games more often. It's not that hard! Keep that shit on twitter and let me play the game undisturbed by whatever sermon your dark skinned mixed race LGBTQLMNOP++%& fat body positive female character is going to give about shit that I already know because I'm a fucking adult and have lived long enough to hear it over and over again. To add on to this, fuck you Naughty Dog, I already know murder is bad, everyone and their mother knows murder is bad, shove your hamfisted garbage message up your ass and wipe those tears you keep crying because of mean internet comments with those piles of money you got from Sony to make your shitty ryona fetish games.

Fuck Bioware, fuck naughty dog, fuck every western game dev company that won't shut up about its politics, and fuck every asskissing industry wannabe on twitter who keeps saying "buh-buh-buht metal gear solid is political" as a defense for this hamfisted garbage.

You dumb fuck, MGS doesn't delve into bipartisan politics, it delves into shit like nuclear ethics and the effects of war on those involved in it, hell, it's shit that's really subtle and requires you to think about it beyond the surface, rather than having Meryl pop up on screen and give you an hour long, unskippable Codec dialogue cutscene about smashing the patriarchy, the history of the LGBT movement, and why you need to vote Donald Trump out of office in November and why you should always vote blue no matter who. MGS treats its characters as individuals with their own moral compasses and ideals. Their beliefs are never as black and white as the ones in western games are, where the binary is "liberal = good, conservative = bad".
It's no one else's fault but your own that you can't write a subtle story to save your life. Write a tumblr blog if you want to get out how much you despise orange man so badly, just leave the fucking video games alone.

 

[Lumin]

I don't like thinking about it much, but folk music. Actual folk music has nothing to do with politics. He did admittedly write some pretty good lyrics at times, but Bob Dylan bastardized the entire genre and tradition, and in my opinion it should have been considered a different genre when he started doing that. It probably wouldn't have survived today since the hipsters would have ruined it regardless, but I do blame Bob Dylan for making it so heavily political and bastardizing it.

 

[Sperghetti]

Webcomics before they all became blobby steven universe clone shit.
For example: Paranatural. It's the fucking worst version of art degradation I've ever seen. Worse yet, the creator started adding dumb shit like a lesbian muslim scientist lady, making the main teacher mentor guy gay with another mysterious male mentor teacher, etc etc etc.
It's not as horribly preachy as most other webcomics nowadays are where every new page is beating you over the head with the author's not-at-all subtle interracial yaoi/yuri fetish hidden under the thin guise of hyperliberal politics, but still.

Same with a lot of printed comics. Some of these damn things go way too hard with their "God bad, conservative values bad, mom and dad bad, family bad, stable job bad, normal life bad, heterosexuality bad" shit. I'm not conservative, but DAMN, calm the fuck down, tell your story first, get out your resentment towards your Christian church-going reaganite parents out later. It's whatever if it's an indie comic or graphic novel, but if it's a pre-established franchise, holy shit, get a life, find some friends vent your frustrations out elsewhere.

Same with (western) video games. Holy fuck, western devs and localizers, shut the hell up about your fucking political ideologies, like Banditotron said,

quit fucking repeating to your audience over and over that they're bad people for thinking a certain way and maybe people will buy your games more often. It's not that hard! Keep that shit on twitter and let me play the game undisturbed by whatever sermon your dark skinned mixed race LGBTQLMNOP++%& fat body positive female character is going to give about shit that I already know because I'm a fucking adult and have lived long enough to hear it over and over again. To add on to this, fuck you Naughty Dog, I already know murder is bad, everyone and their mother knows murder is bad, shove your hamfisted garbage message up your ass and wipe those tears you keep crying because of mean internet comments with those piles of money you got from Sony to make your shitty ryona fetish games.

Fuck Bioware, fuck naughty dog, fuck every western game dev company that won't shut up about its politics, and fuck every asskissing industry wannabe on twitter who keeps saying "buh-buh-buht metal gear solid is political" as a defense for this hamfisted garbage.

You dumb fuck, MGS doesn't delve into bipartisan politics, it delves into shit like nuclear ethics and the effects of war on those involved in it, hell, it's shit that's really subtle and requires you to think about it beyond the surface, rather than having Meryl pop up on screen and give you an hour long, unskippable Codec dialogue cutscene about smashing the patriarchy, the history of the LGBT movement, and why you need to vote Donald Trump out of office in November and why you should always vote blue no matter who. MGS treats its characters as individuals with their own moral compasses and ideals. Their beliefs are never as black and white as the ones in western games are, where the binary is "liberal = good, conservative = bad".
It's no one else's fault but your own that you can't write a subtle story to save your life. Write a tumblr blog if you want to get out how much you despise orange man so badly, just leave the fucking video games alone.

You know, I've been thinking about this one... People who argue that everything is political don't seem to understand the difference between being political and being philosophical.

There are MANY works of fiction that address philosophical, moral, or ethical topics. While it's absolutely possible to do it in a clunky and overbearing way, it's generally a lot easier to build a good narrative around these themes because they usually transcend time and place.

Outright real-world political commentary, on the other hand, is a lot harder to successfully pull off because you often get something that tries to make a point with a sledgehammer, and ends up looking completely hokey and stupid decades (if not years) in the future. Only very rarely do you get something like Animal Farm. Most of the time, it just ends up looking like the political cartoons that run in your local newspaper with various objects clearly labled "Congress" and "Government Spending".

Ironically, for being people who frequently argue that comics, video games, and other pop-culture media can be a serious art form, they go about creating them in the most utterly disposable way possible: They have to update stuff to make it more acclimated to the current political climate, and then several years down the line when that political content starts to look cheesy and dated, they'll just update it again to make it more enjoyable for the current time period.

 

[Borax Bozo]

I like the term that I've seen referenced of a "banana equivalent dose of politics", original source seems to be this longpost on Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMotte/comments/gtnlpj/a_banana_equivalent_dose_of_politics/

A banana equivalent dose of politics : TheMotte

archived 24 Jul 2020 20:45:21 UTC

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But what would you say to someone who told you "everything is radioactive!", and began to point at random objects around you going "that's radioactive! And that's radioactive! And so's that!"? Not someone who seemed to just be sharing an interesting though largely useless scientific factoid, but someone who seemed to be expecting you to DO something, to respond as though you'd just been informed that....well that you were around something radioactive?

You'd think that person was pretty nuts, right? Because as much as the statement "everything is radioactive" is true in the most technical sense, employing the broadest conceivable definition of radioactivity, it's also useless and absurd, and embracing it would make calling something radioactive meaningless...and also ineffectual as a warning when one is about to encounter something that actually DOES emit a hazardous amount of radiation.

So that's not how in common parlance we use the term "radioactive". When 99.9999% of people call something radioactive, they mean that it is MEANINGFULLY so, that it emits enough radiation to warrant special caution.

Everything I just said about radiation applies to politics as well.

 

[Atatata]

You know, I've been thinking about this one... People who argue that everything is political don't seem to understand the difference between being political and being philosophical.

There are MANY works of fiction that address philosophical, moral, or ethical topics. While it's absolutely possible to do it in a clunky and overbearing way, it's generally a lot easier to build a good narrative around these themes because they usually transcend time and place.

Outright real-world political commentary, on the other hand, is a lot harder to successfully pull off because you often get something that tries to make a point with a sledgehammer, and ends up looking completely hokey and stupid decades (if not years) in the future. Only very rarely do you get something like Animal Farm. Most of the time, it just ends up looking like the political cartoons that run in your local newspaper with various objects clearly labled "Congress" and "Government Spending".

Ironically, for being people who frequently argue that comics, video games, and other pop-culture media can be a serious art form, they go about creating them in the most utterly disposable way possible: They have to update stuff to make it more acclimated to the current political climate, and then several years down the line when that political content starts to look cheesy and dated, they'll just update it again to make it more enjoyable for the current time period.

A good comparison I read once was liking it to religion. Sure, series ranging from Neon Genesis Evangelion to Devil May Cry, to Blade Runner all have Christian iconography and symbolism, but that doesn't mean that I want to watch a 30 minute sermon about why sex before marriage is sinful and we're all going to hell. Really, you'd be much more hard pressed to find a series that you couldn't have some stretched theory about Christianity and the seven deadly sins than some bs about the democratic party and homophobia.

 

[Gar For Archer]

You know, I've been thinking about this one... People who argue that everything is political don't seem to understand the difference between being political and being philosophical.

There are MANY works of fiction that address philosophical, moral, or ethical topics. While it's absolutely possible to do it in a clunky and overbearing way, it's generally a lot easier to build a good narrative around these themes because they usually transcend time and place.

Outright real-world political commentary, on the other hand, is a lot harder to successfully pull off because you often get something that tries to make a point with a sledgehammer, and ends up looking completely hokey and stupid decades (if not years) in the future. Only very rarely do you get something like Animal Farm. Most of the time, it just ends up looking like the political cartoons that run in your local newspaper with various objects clearly labled "Congress" and "Government Spending".

Ironically, for being people who frequently argue that comics, video games, and other pop-culture media can be a serious art form, they go about creating them in the most utterly disposable way possible: They have to update stuff to make it more acclimated to the current political climate, and then several years down the line when that political content starts to look cheesy and dated, they'll just update it again to make it more enjoyable for the current time period.

One example of this that really stuck out to me were two specific Futurama episodes, one from early on in the run and one from the later seasons.

The first episode was generally a satirical commentary on the (American) voting system and Americans' attitudes towards it. It's an inherently political topic, but the episode didn't really take a stance or urge the audience to do anything or, god forbid, vote for a certain type of candidate. It'll be relevant for as long as American democracy is around, because it presents a bunch of scenarios that anyone old enough to vote has likely experienced.

The second episode was literally about gay marriage, except with "homosexual" replaced with "robosexual" and "prop 8" with "prop infinity" (haha get it it looks like a sideways ... that's about it. I wouldn't even say it's unwatchably bad or in-your-face woke, but it immediately seemed dated because it was so obviously based on at-the-time current issues, and just didn't seem funny because all the "jokes" pretty much amounted to "hey look at this, doens't this remind you of X in real life?"

Media based solely around current-year politics has a built-in shelf life, which is whenever the thing you're referencing falls out of the public consciousness. That's why "political" media with lasting impact usually have very broad themes. Classic dystopian fiction like Animal Farm, 1984 and Brave New World may have influence from the historical context in which they were written, but they are not explicitly tied to that specific period of time, but rather deal more generally with the idea of an authoritarian government. You might lose out on a bit of understanding if you don't know the historical background, but the themes are timeless.

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To answer the actual question, Homestuck is the only piece of media I've pretty much been completely put off of thanks to its takeover by loony leftists. Were it not for its current-day fandom, it would've just been one of those weird things I liked back in high school and grew out of but still look back on with some degree of fondness. Now, it's just something I actively try not to think about at all. My only interaction with it nowadays is checking up on the Community Watch thread every couple of months to see the extent of the degenerate garbage fire.