2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Nominated Bernie and didn't even mention Joe.
which even handicapping for "it's a procedural type thing so don't make a big deal out of not mentioning Biden at all kthxbye" is still some decent grade big dick energy, like "it's a good size" dick energy.
I'm all for AOC spearheading the FUCK YOU DAD offshoot of the dems
 
Nope. The narrative would be that Biden wasn't woke, because he's the crusty old liberal that the progressives hate. The progressives will not be ready to be crushed until brazenly woke candidates are crushed in the polls.
This is the biggest problem that the DNC has to deal with after ratfucking Bernie in 2016. Bernie would still have lost against Trump in my opinion, but because of the fact that he was cheated out of the nomination by the Democrats that means that his supporters and other people in the far-left fringe, be it wokesters, socialists, anarchists, or outright commies have built this scenario where Bernie would have landslided by 400+ electoral votes if he'd been nominated.

If the DNC had allowed Bernie to run and have him lose against Trump, then at least they could have said to their loonies: "See? we tried it your way and you lost," and then gone back to business as usual, but now that Bernie has been cucked twice (although this second time it's his own fault due to embracing the idpol nonsense and joining the rest of the Dems in dogpiling on the white working class he used to support) the far left will still maintain their years long crafted delusion that the country is extremely progressive and they'll be voted in the moment they have a socialist candidate. This has been the progressive myth since the early Obama years and it has now become indisputable fact to them.

If Trump wins 2020, you can probably expect a split within the Democratic party.
 
This is the biggest problem that the DNC has to deal with after ratfucking Bernie in 2016. Bernie would still have lost against Trump in my opinion, but because of the fact that he was cheated out of the nomination by the Democrats that means that his supporters and other people in the far-left fringe, be it wokesters, socialists, anarchists, or outright commies have built this scenario where Bernie would have landslided by 400+ electoral votes if he'd been nominated.

If the DNC had allowed Bernie to run and have him lose against Trump, then at least they could have said to their loonies: "See? we tried it your way and you lost," and then gone back to business as usual, but now that Bernie has been cucked twice (although this second time it's his own fault due to embracing the idpol nonsense and joining the rest of the Dems in dogpiling on the white working class he used to support) the far left will still maintain their years long crafted delusion that the country is extremely progressive and they'll be voted in the moment they have a socialist candidate. This has been the progressive myth since the early Obama years and it has now become indisputable fact to them.

If Trump wins 2020, you can probably expect a split within the Democratic party.

There will definitely be a split, and if there is, I think that's when you'll see the real "sorry to burst your bubble" moment for the progressives and Woke Left when The Squad gets gerrymandered or primaried out of their offices. The fact that more leftist Millennials primaried establishment Dems to join The Squad is something that I think the DNC establishment is concerned about and once they no longer have the unifying banner of "Orange Man Bad" to rally under then you'll see the infighting truly break loose.
 
I welcome a split, not because I love watching dumpster fires which it'd certainly be, but because the country's two-party system is antiquated and covers way too much and represents very little on both sides. Ideally, I'd like to see splits on both sides, with the Repubs splitting in two as a faction that remains on the path of Trump, energetic and willing to actually put their feet forward instead of cowing, while the neocons keep being neocons, cowards and kneeling to the Dems on everything.
 
Waiting for the spreadsheet report to show differentials between day of DNC vs RNC.
Here you go.

DNC Day 1 on night of.

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RNC Day 1 on night of.

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Fox News posted this today, a 70 years of convention speechs from the winners and losers of each election. Posted it here for political junkies.


 
There will definitely be a split, and if there is, I think that's when you'll see the real "sorry to burst your bubble" moment for the progressives and Woke Left when The Squad gets gerrymandered or primaried out of their offices. The fact that more leftist Millennials primaried establishment Dems to join The Squad is something that I think the DNC establishment is concerned about and once they no longer have the unifying banner of "Orange Man Bad" to rally under then you'll see the infighting truly break loose.

I don't think so. There wasn't a split in 1968, when Wallace literally left his party to run on the segregationist American Independent ticket; he remained a Democrat after costing them the election. If anything should have split the party, it would have been segregationists vs Johnson's civil rights-favoring group. After that, it should have been a liberal vs conservative split, but instead the conservatives just drifted into the Republican Party while the Democrats backfilled their numbers with minority special interest groups.

There wasn't a split after 1992, when Perot pulled 19% of the popular vote, mostly from Bush 1 but also from Clinton (who only got 43% of the vote). In fact I'd argue Perot solidified the 2-party system for decades, because every politico who remembers him and Nader in 2000 is deathly afraid of losing elections to 3rd parties.

It would have to take progressives deciding they didn't care about winning elections, they want their own "pure" party so badly that they are going to put up with a decade of GOP wins to get their new party off the ground. They'd have to be as insane as the big-L type Libertarians, who formed their own party that did nothing but weaken the small-l Ron Paul libertarian wing remaining within the Republican party.

Maybe they're deep enough into a purity spiral to do it. But I also get the feeling they are too wrapped up in winning and too horrified by the GOP boogeyman to risk leaving the power of the party behind.

Remember, this is the side that specializes in subverting organizations and power structures to their own ideological end. They have every reason to believe they can turn the Democratic party into their own machine, and wield all the ready-to-go power for themselves.
 
Here you go.

DNC Day 1 on night of.

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RNC Day 1 on night of.

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Fox News posted this today, a 70 years of convention speechs from the winners and losers of each election. Posted it here for political junkies.


Holy shit, even MSNBC has a positive like/dislike ratio.
 
I don't think so. There wasn't a split in 1968, when Wallace literally left his party to run on the segregationist American Independent ticket; he remained a Democrat after costing them the election. If anything should have split the party, it would have been segregationists vs Johnson's civil rights-favoring group. After that, it should have been a liberal vs conservative split, but instead the conservatives just drifted into the Republican Party while the Democrats backfilled their numbers with minority special interest groups.

There wasn't a split after 1992, when Perot pulled 19% of the popular vote, mostly from Bush 1 but also from Clinton (who only got 43% of the vote). In fact I'd argue Perot solidified the 2-party system for decades, because every politico who remembers him and Nader in 2000 is deathly afraid of losing elections to 3rd parties.

It would have to take progressives deciding they didn't care about winning elections, they want their own "pure" party so badly that they are going to put up with a decade of GOP wins to get their new party off the ground. They'd have to be as insane as the big-L type Libertarians, who formed their own party that did nothing but weaken the small-l Ron Paul libertarian wing remaining within the Republican party.

Maybe they're deep enough into a purity spiral to do it. But I also get the feeling they are too wrapped up in winning and too horrified by the GOP boogeyman to risk leaving the power of the party behind.

Remember, this is the side that specializes in subverting organizations and power structures to their own ideological end. They have every reason to believe they can turn the Democratic party into their own machine, and wield all the ready-to-go power for themselves.
I don't exactly mean a split to form a new party, but rather as a civil war to take control of the party. People like Jimmy Dore may talk about the benefits of starting a third party but this is stupid and no one knows this better than people like AOC, who is probably in no way eager to return back to the cadre of losers that is the Socialist Party of America. They now have gotten taste of power in a party that is well entrenched and has a loyal voter base. But until now there has been a barely concealed tension between the three factions of the party.

Faction A, the establishment. These people are the Clintonites, Obama loyalists, etc. Mostly the neo-liberal bunch that in terms of actual ideology has the least amount of support yet due to money and connections, are the most represented in the party and the media, they are currently in a battle with:

Faction B, the progressives: Newcomers into the party and mostly young people and old marxists. They were cockteased with socialism by Obama and have built a delusion that the country is extremely far-left and will vote for far-left social and economic policies if only they have their way. They are very present in social media due to sympathizers in Silicon Valley and infiltration of other companies since they attract a young radical bunch, but are very loud, giving the illusion that they are a massive force of the party yet like Faction A, they are also in a battle with:

Faction C, the Blue Dogs and moderates: These are mostly working class people and despite being the least represented in media and in government, probably the biggest voter base in the party, and currently the one that is bleeding out due to either death of the boomers, or increasing disgust with Faction A's whoring to the big multinationals as well as Faction B's radicalism.

In the event of the Trump win, what I fully expect is a return to the 2016-2018 style politics in which people like AOC primaried and replaced establishment Dems yet this time it will be full on war. After 2018 there seemed to have been an apparent ceasefire just to keep the public eye of a unified party, but all bets are off after 2020. If Biden wins, then Faction A keeps the status quo if only for a few years, if Trump wins, Faction B will become even more radical and the mask will come off as they try to take over the party, meanwhile, Faction C will keep on being ignored, which makes them prime targets for populist Republicans.
 
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Former Arizona Senator Jeff Flake came out yesterday with his endorsement of Joe Biden. So glad he's gone. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Mormons are so cucked they should go to Liberty instead of BYU.
 
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It's just celebrities and the NAACP bitching about voter suppression, again. Plus a few million dollars subsidizing political activism, which is probably the only reason those involved are interested.

A group of athletes led by NBA star LeBron James will roll out a multimillion-dollar program in the next few weeks to recruit poll workers in heavily Black electoral districts for November’s election, a person familiar with the plans said on Monday.

More Than a Vote, a group of prominent athletes fighting voter suppression, will collaborate with the NAACP Legal Defense Fund on the program in a dozen states, including battlegrounds such as Georgia, Michigan, Florida and Wisconsin, where disenfranchisement affects Black voters, the source said.

The New York Times first reported the effort, which will recruit young people as poll workers and include a paid advertising program and corporate partnership to encourage employees to volunteer as poll workers.
 
I sure hope those pollsters correct any wrong think and don't act like the NBPP that one time in Philly back in 2008.

Also Lebron James is a fucking retard who is only famous because he can bounce a ball and play a sport that doesn't involve slamming yourself into another retard built like a brick wall. Also he would gladly call out America as a racist dictatorship... but would bend over backwards for a certain Asian nation that puts people in camps by their ethnicity, watches their citizens constantly, and executes people in hidden vans.

Can we just deport all the NBA to China and wash our hands of these shitbags?
 
Update on DNC vs RNC ratings:
Over six networks on the 10-11 pm timeslot:
DNC - 19M viewers
RNC - 16M viewers

If you know why this is fucky, the reason is the RNC ends at ~10pm and the DNC was still ongoing until 11pm.
Furthermore, Fox News, where Trump voters would see the Convention, was actually a horrible place to view it due to them cutting to Tucker and Hannity instead of the speeches. C-SPAN was notably better.

The other side of the story is the total viewership:
Team Trump - 39.1M viewers across TV and streaming
Biden - ~29M viewers claimed by their War Room

Proof of Team Trump claim:
If anyone can find Biden's claim, I would very appreciate it.
 
I actually respect her more after this. That little Mexican is stubborn even for a latina.

She's Puerto Rican and was raised as a wealthy white suburbanite from Long Island but I get the point you're making. I do have to admire the balls of this move. It's like she doesn't even give a fuck about her political future.

With AOC, it's hard to say how much of it is audacity and how much of it is stupidity given that she is the Left's answer to Sarah Palin and Dan Quayle.
 
She's Puerto Rican and was raised as a wealthy white suburbanite from Long Island but I get the point you're making. I do have to admire the balls of this move. It's like she doesn't even give a fuck about her political future.

With AOC, it's hard to say how much of it is audacity and how much of it is stupidity given that she is the Left's answer to Sarah Palin and Dan Quayle.
Maybe she will eventually become an example of what NOT to do as a newbie politician.
 
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