Secret Gamer Girl / SecretGamerGrrl / Googleshng / "Violet Hargrave" / Jacob Lawrence (Jake) Alley / Violet Cassandra Ocean - Delusional Zoe Quinn Stalker, Libelous Tweeter, Thirsty Gnome, Faux-Tranny Neckbeard Incel, Micropenis, "Known Troubled Person", Creator of "Massive vs the Masses", Self-Described "Noise Making Thing"; Lives in Niantic, CT

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Given Jake’s frequent screeching about imaginary Nazis, I wonder what he would have made of a TRUE and Honest lesbian woman like Jutta Rüdiger.

Who not only led the Nazi BDM (Bund Deutschen Mädel, the girls wing of Hitler Youth) But also was an unrepentant National Socialist until the day she died?


Or even better: Violette Morris, a French lesbian/transman who after a career as athlete became infamous for running a garage for the Luftwaffe, and working for the Gestapo. A career that supposedly included torturing resistance members.

 
His ultimate life goal from 2014 or possibly earlier was and still is to woo m'lady Zoe Quinn. Even when he called her out with his own vague zoepost, it was from the point of view that "Randi bad, please do better! I've finally done something better than you, this is supposed to be 'Check'!" He wrote it expecting change from her, which obviously would never come. Years later, he still holds out hope that she'll come around by manipulating others and becoming popular enough himself to change her mind indirectly.
Despite what he has done to his body, what he has done to women just by existing, this is the most embarrassing thing about him. How are you going to pine after a woman who has sex with video game journalists?
 
I will grant Jake one thing and one thing only:

At least he bought some dangerhair wigs instead of trying to bleach his 3 strands of real hair and then dye them pink.

After all the shit I've given to other troons, I will grant him this one small concession.
 
I will grant Jake one thing and one thing only:

At least he bought some dangerhair wigs instead of trying to bleach his 3 strands of real hair and then dye them pink.

After all the shit I've given to other troons, I will grant him this one small concession.

Huge agree with you, however- additional criticism to Jake that of all the wigs he could get he chooses Party City, Halloween, throw away tier wigs lmao
 
Pair of "short" Googleshngs for fans of Violet's writing:
Violet Cassandra Ocean said:
Whole lot of dudes out there really need to understand that it isn't that women don't play RPGs. We just don't play RPGs WITH YOU.
I don't think I have ever even SEEN an RPG group that wasn't at least 50% women (although I have seen several where that wasn't made clear for years)

And yes, I AM quite aware that that's Gary Gygax being quoted there.

Also it's more than a little weird to me to see that one of the creators of D&D apparently went his entire life only ever finding about 100 people to play it with. Like if I'm doing one-shots, I can swing that in a single weekend. Or maybe he's just talking about his regular group there but... wow that works out to having to find a new player every 8 months.

I've been playing games with people where we're putting in like 4-40 hours of time in at the table a week for over a decade and it is the same set of people showing up for those games like clockwork who have been for over a decade now.

Like we all have to deal with replacing players now and then because people have to move or die or other unexpected circumstances but one replacement every 8 months for 75
years? That's a pretty damn clear pattern. Maybe you'd have had more player retention if you weren't the sort of creep who went around calling women "females" and pulling spiteful crap like scribbling random notes in the middle of the DMG when someone's clever idea about using a series of mirrors to get sunlight deeper into a vampire's lair about how that doesn't work rather than rolling with the creativity, and actually sent the thing to print with that.

Also I love how literally every time some sexist ass boldly declares that "women don't play games," any requests for stronger data than the reputable source of facts and figures that is his own butt are immediately backed up with a bunch of completely bonkers speculation about how if women ARE playing games they must not play the sort of real and very serious men play, but some matter of game that they can dismiss as in some way "not real" for which of course they can't even provide anecdotal data.

Like, you can just look up actual statistics and see this is BS, but if you prefer to stick with anecdotes, I swear every single time I've seen a D&D player who is just totally checked out and playing with their phone all session, still needing to ask about how AOOs work after playing the same character for 5 years, failing to engage with the game world, or getting all upset about being killed/mind controlled/poisoned/stunned for a round, that's been a man. And every time someone is showing up for the first session of a campign having read all available material on the setting, spent several hours researching the real world cultures that setting is based on, and practicing the appropriate accent for playing a character pulling together mechanical concepts from a dozen different splatbooks to make their aklys wielder or whatever viable, who they have also painted a full color illustration of, along with everyone else's character, that's a woman.

Also that's not a one-off thing, that is pretty damn consistent. Sometimes the high effort players are non-binary instead.

And hell if we're applying this to video games, I can't tell you how often I've sat around commiserating with other women about having to put up with "I bet you don't play real games!" talk from snot-nosed little punks who brag about only ever playing Call of Duty or World of WarCraft. While you know, the women dealing with this are taking breaks between setting world records in Souls games, fighting games, breaking action-roguelikes wide open, getting nostalgic about dominating regional tournaments for StarCraft/Magic/whichever 90s FPS you'd care to mention.

Come to think of this, other bigots project like this too. Remember that transphobe a while back bragging about once killing a Big Daddy in Bioshock like that was some big achievement?

Violet Cassandra Ocean said:
So... if you're ever in a conversation that looks even a little like this one, I'd suggest blocking the troll Arthur's replying to and getting on with your life MUCH sooner than this, but this turning point in this conversation is really great for laying bear how combative trolls not only never approach their arguments in good faith, but also never actually approach their arguments as arguments.

The particular example of how bad Twitter's moderation is that Arthur is wasting his breath on here popped up out of nowhere to start shouting at people talking about how an unrepentant serial harasser who gets his kicks from blackmailing and abusing women to the point of suicide should not be running for public office.

Our troll here pretty obviously is a complete stranger to those he's shouting at about this, and is barging in on a conversation between complete strangers he has no reason to be talking to about anything because he just searched for the name of the would-be politician in question, having nothing better to do today than tell total strangers how condemning evil people for being evil is "wrong." But that's not what I'm highlighting here. THAT much has been commonplace since a bunch of idiots came up with the whole "web 2.0" concept so now you can't say or do anything on the internet without providing a comment box for bored shitheads to yell at you through.

What's worth noting here is this specific moment, where the troll has quite plainly run through the whole very short script of "talking points" he had access to for this particular outing, and having found someone still willing to humor him, has done a search on his name, pulled up his profie on one of the sites that presently exist on this lovely internet of ours for the sole purpose of giving trolls like this writing prompts for attacking random specific individuals, and picked one at random to randomly shout in order to move things in a new direction.

And frankly, he didn't put any care or thought into his choice and it came out as this absolutely baffling non-sequitur as a result.

And while we're on the subject, if you've seen anyone else dealing with trolls on this particular subject, or you know, you're like me and you try to glance in on whatever conversations with obvious trolls Arthur is pointing out to his followers out of some combination of morbid curiosity and concern, then you will notice the pattern that this list of talking points this troll ran down is the exact same list, in the same order, as every other troll working this particular beat.

This guy obviously doesn't know the first thing about who Arthur is, but he ALSO very obviously doesn't know the first thing about who Aaron Coleman is. Nor, clearly, does he have any sort of investment or interest in the subject. He's just some far-right loser who felt like spending his day trolling someone, who doesn't have any actual real interests or opinions about anything at all, and could only accomplish this by using dedicated resources for people that pathetic to provide him with a topic for the day, a
script, and supplemental materials for how to start personally attacking someone who his script didn't work on.

Can you even comprehend just how much of a pathetic loser this person I am describing is that that's how he spent his day?

Like, I mean I'm not going to shame anyone for immediately jumping to using a walkthrough for something. Recently I decided to play Phantasmagoria 2 and stream it on twitch and I don't think I spent more than maybe a minute trying to muddle through it on my own before just pulling up a full walkthrough and just mindlessly following it along, because frankly I played the first game without one and knew damn well I'd be making people watch me walk in circles clicking on completely arbitrary things trying to hit totally arbitrary plot progression triggers for several hours if I didn't. But you see, I did that because I wanted to provide people with a good 7 hours or so of being entertained by an incredibly weird old videogame full of FMV of some guy petting a rat/being hit on by an office full of people and weird randomness.

This pathetic little loser had to go look up a walkthrough in order to... talk to a stranger over the internet.

And not even with a goal of making friends, or having an interesting conversation. Just... HOPEFULLY finding inflammatory comments enough to make to not be completely
ignored.

And that's it! That's literally the goal! Not "avoid being ignored long enough to accomplish X" just... get any sort of back and forth going for any length of time.

How in the world does anyone manage to fail that hard at the game of just... being a living human being? Like how old are we figuring this particular troll is. 20-something? 30-something? 40-something? And in all those years, he still hasn't figured out any of the ways one can manage to get some enjoyment out of life. Not practicing a skill, not playing games, not reading books or watching movies, not hiking, not swimming, not making friends, not doing drugs, not masturbating, No, literally the ONLY THING this guy could apparently come up with that would maybe release just a teensy trickle of dopamine, oxytocin, serotonin, or endorphins in his brain was to try and pick fights with strangers so they'd acknowledge he exists long enough to tell him off. And he had to go look up walkthroughs on how to even attempt to do that.

That is STUNNING when you really try to picture it.

And about the only thing that's harder to wrap my brain around is the fact that there's enough people out there to actually justify writing walkthroughs for them to follow.

And for that matter there's people so proud of themselves for figuring out that if you scream "I hate you and hope you die!" they might mutter a quick "screw you" before going about their business as a random stranger you happened to look at that that waste their entire lives writing walkthroughs about it for the sake of the losers who couldn't manage even that level of creativity and initiative.

It's all just downright unfathomable.
 
Jake's raging against the incels again: https://twitter.com/SecretGamerGrrl/status/1298829604904464384
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Violet Cassandra Ocean said:
It'd be splitting hairs to say this as a correction to that last RT, because the pipeline does start with the recruiting of teenagers by promising to teach them how to get laid, and "becoming an incel" is a step in the process but people are burying such a dark and frightening pipeline of hate groups operating as recruitment centers for more overt hate groups and mainstream media reporting has thoroughly confused the issue on what "incels" are all about by reading the self-applied label as "ashamed virgins" and...

This is easier if you watch Blade 2.

That seriously was me pausing a moment so you could go watch Blade 2 real quick and we can continue.

So the premise there is that we have vampires, which are horrible monster people who prey on and convert normal humans into other vampires, but then now we also have these weird super vampires whose whole deal is that they primarily prey on and convert regular vampires into them.

This basically is how the whole incel pipeline goes. Impressionable kids get recruited into one weird little hate group with a bunch of propaganda, and then once they've stewed in it for a while and are maybe starting to smell all the bullshit, someone comes along to recruit them into the next, much worse group down the chain, explaining that the first group is too naive about how things REALLY work, and introducing a new wave of much worse propaganda. So, the starting pool we're working with is just kind of... mostly passive misogyny. This is really broad, and honestly there's several different tributaries feeding into it, but basically we're dealing with the whole pool of guys who don't really meaningfully interact with women who aren't blood relatives, accept weird sexist crap in the media and half-baked fan theories from playground rumors as fact, and get their heads up their ass about how "women don't play games/watch Star Wars/have whatever other interest" and are just like... eating bonbons and reading fashion magazines or whatever the hell it is they assume we do in our spare time that isn't the same stuff everyone else does.

I don't want to suggest that sort of sexism is "harmless" or anything, but there's a passivity to it generally, where people just accrue a bunch of ridiculous assumptions.

So OK, people stew in that for a while, and eventually they're primed for the idea that women are these weird alien creatures whose brains work in a completely different way, and the reason their interactions with women aren't like what they see in the media they're consuming is that they just "don't know how to talk to girls" because there's some kinda fundamental gulf between the genders and you need to essentially learn a new language or something.

This is where they get recruited into Pickup Artistry. Where there's this whole crowd of hucksters promising to teach guys how to make women willing to sleep with them by decoding the secrets of the feminine mind and such.

I think a decent enough percentage of the people reading this probably have at least a passing familiarity with the main gimmicks of pickup artistry, since this particular layer of muck is still close enough to the surface and reaching out broadly enough for there to be books on it that sold enough copies for normal people to pick them up and go "what the hell is this bullshit?" So you've probably heard all the "tips and tricks" like "negging" women at bars and "peacocking" by wearing fancy hats or something (and yes, this is where the whole thing where we all spent 15 years mocking fedoras came from and getting into arguments about how no these are actually trilbies, Indiana Jones' hat was a fedora).

Anyway, all of pickup artistry really boils down to the idea that if you really really just want to have sex with a random stranger and yo go out to bars and ask enough people you should eventually bump into someone else who also just wants to have sex with a random stranger and all those books full of tips and techniques are secretly just teaching people to be unbearable asses, so everyone else will end conversations at them immediately and they can move on in their quest to find the one super horny woman with zero standards quicker. So some people eventually realize that these techniques don't work and grow functioning social skills, and some people see through the smoke and mirrors that it's all a numbers game, but everyone else stews in this getting increasingly distressed at how they're following the tips and tricks they were taught and it still isn't working. So now they're ripe for recruitment into the next group, the Betas.

Here, the recruiters explain how the whole notion that you can read a book or go to an internet forum and look up cheat codes on how to make women want to sleep with you is total bullshit, but not because those guides are full of downright harmful advice. No no no, that much is true, according to these recruiters. The problem is that the pickup artistry approach is treating women like they are members of some foreign culture with a different language and culture they just need to learn, and what they really need to do is start looking at women like animals acting on pure instinct, and get into studying evolutionary biology.

Here everyone is given a bunch of (let's be real, crude summaries of) literature by total quacks using a mix of treating totally fictional media about "caveman times" and discredited and/or grossly misunderstood research into the mating behavior of various species, thrown into a blender with some surprisingly common misunderstandings of how evolution works, and coming out with this nonsense conclusion that women, being creatures of pure brooding instinct, assess all men based on their "physical fitness" (which in this case means being strong, being tall, and having the largest penis possible) and their wealth/social influence.

This is, it should be noted, where the whole "Virgin vs. Chad" meme first originated. The idea is that if following pickup artist manuals isn't working for you, it's because you are an inferior, or beta male, and all women will pass you over for a superior alpha male until you become one.

So... that original crappy MS Paint drawing really was someone sincerely telling people that if they resemble the person on the left, they must strive to transform into the... thing... on the right, somehow.

And on paper that's not the worst thing, since you'd hope the practical approach would be people trying to take better care of themselves, exercise more, get more ambitious in their pursuits, and these are generally good things to do regardless of whether you've been indoctrinated into a weird cult to try and trick women into being attracted to you,
but you've gotta remember we're dealing with people who it's already been established believe women are strange alien creatures who don't consume media and respond to social cheat codes like they're videogame characters, and we're far enough down the pipeline here that people are swinging by the fairly centralized and off the grid forums the Betas are spending all their time in to toss out weird right wing propaganda. We're starting to get into the layers where @DavidFutrelle swings by looking for stuff to throw up on wehuntedthemammoth.com where people share breathless panicky essays about how monogamous sex makes your penis bigger but sleeping with multiple people makes it shrink. So most of the "become more alpha" talk is really impractical/absurd/selling snake oil. The whole "soy boy" notion is on the least harmful side, and between the fact that at this point, we've had people stewing in these various pools of misogyny for years, maybe decades, trying all these stupid tricks, and the fact that no seriously the primary propaganda line at this level is that you need to think of women as farm animals, general contempt for all women gets fostered pretty quick, and NOW we can finally recruit these poor damned souls into the incel pool.

Here, our big reveal on how the last pool was bullshit is to disavow that there is any sort of mobility possible. Betas cannot become Alphas.

"The Virgin" cannot become "The Chad." And of course those women you've been chasing this whole time and have recently come to see as mindless beasts unworthy of any respect are more like 3s and 4s at best and not 10s on The Objective Attraction Scale but won't give you the time of day even though you're like a 7 because every single one of them is confident she can land a 10. "The Chad" while still a prominent figure in all their propaganda, is no longer some goal to work towards, but a villain in this new mythology. Some asshole lucky enough to be born desirable to all women, while the incels have access only to the inferior women Chads cast away, and then only if they can be broken and give up on their impossible standards.

So... we're pretty goddamned mask-off about all the fascism and violent misogyny at this level. If you look at the sort of discussions being held on the real honest to goodness "Incel" forums, any notion of trying to become more attractive to women has been dropped in favor of brainstorming on how to remove any sort of free will or consent on behalf of the women in the equation.

You've got people straight up advocating that rape should be legal and writing advice books on how to avoid being convicted of it- https://splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/mike-cernovich

You've got people proposing women being enslaved and distributed out by the government as state-mandated girlfriends for all complete with this actual petition and an itemized list of all the mandated duties of these government-issued girlfriends, which I would share with you if not for the fact that I'm trying to stick to one link per post.

And you've got crap like this one:
Replace women’s brains with dog brains so they’ll have sex with us, Incel proposes

So hopefully you can see why people interchangeably using the terms "incel" and "virgin" bothers me. We're another good 4 varieties of super-vampire down and there's nothing approaching humanity left. But I mean just for what it's worth, this whole pipeline hasn't actually been about virginity related insecurities for a long time. Pickup Artistry "works" in the sense I outlined several posts ago. Spend all your time trying to get women to sleep with you and some percentage will. The whole process is about the growing sense of entitlement, paired with an increasingly dim view of women. By the time someone's in the Incel pool he usually has an ex-wife or two even, it's just that now he believes it's a grave injustice if any given woman he takes a personal interest in doesn't worship him as a superior being. It's not "no woman will sleep with me," it's "this specific woman won't sleep with me, and I'd be doing her a favor if I did."

But believe it or not we're not at the end of the pipeline. Because you can only spend so much time stewing in the most radical of far right propaganda and telling yourself you are actually like the pinnacle of human achievement outside a few lucky freaks of nature before you get sick of lying to yourself about all your unacknowledged greatness, but at this point you're still convinced you've seen through at least a good 5 different veils revealing ever greater truths about the world, so abandoning the cult and trying to rejoin society is absolutely off the table, so it's off to what is sort of inherently the final fetid pool, with only the densest sludge, which is even right there in the name, Black Pilled.

Here the big reveal is that the whole "you're like a 7" angle from the Incel level is a total lie, as recruits admit that no they really are basically the worst humanity has to offer. And hey, for once, that actually is fully true. But again, the break point for becoming an incel is giving up on the whole notion of self-improvement, and at this point these people are frankly no longer really capable of viewing anyone who isn't an absolutely raging far-right misogynist with anything but pure contempt, so they get into a mindset of "I'm a lost cause, and must sacrifice myself in the hope that it might help those who have come with me on this long journey to achieve their dreams."

And I mean, so we're clear here, those are the dreams wherein all women are either forced into sex slavery or murdered so their bodies can be reanimated with dog brains.

Some of the more grounded ones are more content with simpler goals like "starting a race war" or "murdering all those girls who wouldn't sleep with me," but hey if you want specific goals, they tend to write big long manifestos before their killing sprees:

So, with the understanding that this is what the pipeline is, and some resources you can use to verify it for yourself (again, http://wehuntedthemammoth.com is a great filter for all your abyss-staring needs if you need to see more shockingly awful things for this to click), what now?

Well, we dismantle this whole messed up pipeline and bust up the forums where these increasingly rarified hate groups gather to radicalize each other into jumping to the next one. As that old article of mine advocates, that can pretty much be accomplished all at once by removing 4chan and reddit from the face of the internet entirely. Of course, that's kind of a big ask, and hard for a single individual to do.

It's also possible to mitigate the whole mess by pulling recruits out of the pipeline while they're still reachable. Again, to tie this back in with Blade 2, double-turned super vampires are a total lost cause we just can't have around, but the regular ones, just a step or so along the process here have enough basic humanity left that they can be reasoned with still.

So, I dunno, maybe quit putting stuff out there where "the hero gets the girl in the end," aggressively correct sheltered little boys (and the ridiculous old men they sometimes grow into) when they start spouting off nonsense about those weird woman-brains that don't appreciate games and genre fiction. Maybe take another pass at debunking pickup artistry as a total scam. The one nice thing with a pipeline like this is there's plenty of places you can damage it that really make it hard for the later pools to fill up properly.
edit: I should have known better, he's still Shnging about this over an hour later, I have updated the quote
 
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I've been playing games with people where we're putting in like 4-40 hours of time in at the table a week for over a decade and it is the same set of people showing up for those games like clockwork who have been for over a decade now.
Absolutely jarring. No wonder Jake can't find a job, he's been RPing online for all the hours that would go towards gainful employment. I game and shitpost into the wee hours but 40 hours a week with people you aren't working with, that's intense. Most serious Warcraft raiders don't go past 8 hours a week and get sick of each other late into a patch. Get sponsorship Jake, Jesus Christ. You are literally wasting your time. Even cucks like Anthony Burch can monetize their D&D time into some sort of work that not only pays via crowdsourcing but actually gets him hired into other things because it's entertainment-resume friendly.
 
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