Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

His name is on it, but it's important to keep in mind most studio movies hire a director to fulfill their wishes not create their own story. TLJ is by far the worst Star Wars movie ever made, my point is Rian was hired to do exactly what he did. It wasn't a mistake on his part and it wasn't a surprise to KK on what the end product was. They designed it together. She hired him, she let him film it and go through production when she has shown she is fine firing people mid production so she approved of what she saw and read from Rian. That's her decision and she deserves more blame than Rian imo. I blame the person hiring the gun moreso than the hired gun 90% of the time.
TLJ is one of the rare times in the movie industry where the producer and the director shared the exact same vision and hate for the source material.
 
TLJ is one of the rare times in the movie industry where the producer and the director shared the exact same vision and hate for the source material.
Word on the grapevine is that KK LOVED the script Rian Johnson handed in as a draft and went with it. She knew what it would do to characters like Luke Skywalker and Poe Dameron, and went with it anyways, because she hates the male fans that much to the point where she says that the franchise doesn't need them. She knew what she was doing. It's just that she didn't know how much it would cost her and the franchise at large.
 
KK deserves more blame than Rian Johnson imo. Hes gotten praise for Looper and Knives Out from most people who has seen them. He's good at his own stuff, the problem with TLJ was he was coming in to someone else's universe that had already been bastardized by JJ w/ TFA. Unfortunate position for him to be in and his reaction to criticism certainly makes him a major douche but he might not be a bad director.

The most memorable visual of TLJ was The Holdo maneuver and according to Rian he ran it by the Star Wars people at Lucasfilm if they could do it and the Star Wars people said yes. That's their fault, not his imo.

Rian Johnson deserves blame for TLJ purely because that asshat had the stones to go into MSM and talk about how much he didn't give a shit about the franchise at large. How he isn't concerned about the bigger picture, only what happens within the context of whatever film he's working on at the moment.

I'm sure if he'd been given something standalone it would have been better, but his critical failure was simply taking characters both long established (Luke, etc) and new (Snoke, etc.) and driving them all into the ground for the sake of 'subverted expectations'. He never should have been tapped for a trilogy, indeed now with JJ only doing episodes 7 and 9, it looks sloppy in retrospect that they simply didn't have JJ do all three films. If nothing else, JJ should have been on call 24/7 whenever possible as a consultant just to make sure his plotlines were upheld, since obviously Snoke was supposed to be something other than some asshole in gold clothing who died like a bitch having accomplished literally nothing.

And I suspect there's more going on with the 'it was okayed by Lucasfilm' defense regarding the Holdo Manuver. "Holdo destroys the First Order Fleet by ramming the big ship at speed" is a lot different than "Holdo destroys the First Order Fleet by ramming the big ship at lightspeed" in context. Or, more likely, nobody at Lucasfilm with the power to overturn that shit actually cared because KK at that point had largely made the whole shebang a pro-feminist haven.
 
I refuse to believe someone, especially with her career, can be that actually retarded.

I used to think the same way. However, after watching SJWs plunge every series they laid their hands on into the muck (Star Wars, Halo, Star Trek, etc.) I no longer see things that way. Woke bullshit overrides the desire for profit in their eyes.
 
I refuse to believe someone, especially with her career, can be that actually retarded.

It's hard to believe, but there's three $200 million films out there that say otherwise.

"Luke Skywalker is in half the toy boxes in North America. Don't make him look bad." This is the sort of advice you get from the "How to write fanfic" pages on My Little Pony websites. And the guys who run Star Wars don't understand writing even at that fundamental level. My mind was blown some time ago.
 
I refuse to believe someone, especially with her career, can be that actually retarded.
She keeps trying to give herself fetish fuel in movies by putting tentacle monsters in them, tries to insert what she wants to be (a bland dark haired girl who wins all the time who speaks with received pronunciation), and hates George and Steven for treating her like an employee to the point she spent hundreds of millions to destroy what they worked on purpose. After they made her fetch coffee as one of the first affirmative action hires.

She is that retarded, filled with daddy issues, and drunk. Her actions are further enabled with a repeat parasite and series wrecker who literally only survives because he went to the same Synagogue as Spielburg, a contrarian faggot who hates when his work is rightfully mocked for being post-modern horseshit, and a weak and petty cuck of a man who believes that rigging stonks and buying IPs and botnets to support fake pushes is better than good product.

She lords over a Randall Weems acting DSP lookalike, a dude who I only remember as Porgcuck, a bunch of random wine moms from her book club, and keeps trying to venerate a trilogy written by a soy boy she fired. Kathleen and the entire staff at LFL and Disney are profoundly retarded, with only the Klutzman at CBS at the moment being moreso than her.

She'll be Nancy "sneak into hairstylist and scream how they should be closed to the normals" Pelosi level entitled and stupid soon. Age and booze does that to entitled cunts like her, especially in the shithole that is Hollywood.
 
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At least her not getting to ruin the last Indiana Jones movie (as if that franchise can be any more ruined after Crystal Skull) will be the last slap in her face before her contract is up.
Remember when Iger pretended he was leaving so Chapek would take over? I do. I also remember the lie that was Alex Kurtzman is getting kicked out of handling anything Star Trek (and now we have Lower Drecks).

I don't believe she'll leave until she actually does. And I still don't want to see that whiny fanfiction writer Filoni take over if he cheered and supported Luke's ruination.
 
Remember when Iger pretended he was leaving so Chapek would take over? I do. I also remember the lie that was Alex Kurtzman is getting kicked out of handling anything Star Trek (and now we have Lower Drecks).

I don't believe she'll leave until she actually does. And I still don't want to see that whiny fanfiction writer Filoni take over if he cheered and supported Luke's ruination.

It's like the poster for AvP... Whoever wins, we lose.
 
Is it dumb to say that someone can be inspired by both the original and prequel trilogies? Because I feel those two have a larger impact than the What If Trilogy.
 
Word on the grapevine is that KK LOVED the script Rian Johnson handed in as a draft and went with it. She knew what it would do to characters like Luke Skywalker and Poe Dameron, and went with it anyways, because she hates the male fans that much to the point where she says that the franchise doesn't need them. She knew what she was doing. It's just that she didn't know how much it would cost her and the franchise at large.

I think its pretty clear that KKK didn't care about Star Wars, she cared about the idea of her having control of Star Wars. That is, a huge wildly successful franchise that she could "put her mark on" and everyone would go see it and tell her how great she was. It could have been twilight, it could have been star trek, it could have been fucking The Fast and the Furious.

The following two posters got pretty close to the mark:

She keeps trying to give herself fetish fuel in movies by putting tentacle monsters in them, tries to insert what she wants to be (a bland dark haired girl who wins all the time who speaks with received pronunciation), and hates George and Steven for treating her like an employee to the point she spent hundreds of millions to destroy what they worked on purpose. After they made her fetch coffee as one of the first affirmative action hires.

Rian was hired to do exactly what he did. It wasn't a mistake on his part and it wasn't a surprise to KK on what the end product was. They designed it together. She hired him, she let him film it and go through production when she has shown she is fine firing people mid production so she approved of what she saw and read from Rian. That's her decision and she deserves more blame than Rian imo. I blame the person hiring the gun moreso than the hired gun 90% of the time.

Except I don't really think she did what she did out of maliciousness as much as she wanted to scrub the franchise going forward free of all trace of Lucas except for the vaguest memberberries. She didn't want to be compared to George, she didn't want to be reminded of George, everything that came before TFA is irrelevant, only good for having attracted her an audience. TFA was supposed to be the bridge, the transition for old fans. She wanted Rian to come in, subvert expectations, and just completely and totally remove Lucas' fingerprints from the series so she'd have a completely free hand going forward. (Member when we were going to have a Star Wars movie every year? Pepperidge farm remembers)

And to a degree, I sort of feel for her. She spends her entire career as Lucas' right hand, bringing to life HIS vision, the way HE wants it, but never really getting to do what she wanted. So finally after literal decades she gets her shot, and she's sick of delivering someone else's plans and visions .... and immediately drives right off the fucking cliff.

What she should have done is found some undeveloped property and make that her own. But if she did that, she wasn't going to get A-list talent and $350 million budgets. (And she'd paid her dues, dammit! She DESERVES to have this power.)

And I think there was some real antipathy towards Star Wars fans. She got a front-row seat to see how Lucas was treated by them. I don't think she had any ill-will towards Lucas other than wanting to be out from under his shadow. She and Lucas seem to have a good relationship to the point Lucas was still going to bat for her on Indiana Jones. We've all seen the End of ROTJ meme, but I don't think that it occurred to her that rebooting the rebellion was shitting on the end of the original films. She just wanted to be doing her own thing for once.



She is that retarded, filled with daddy issues, and drunk. [...] She'll be Nancy "sneak into hairstylist and scream how they should be closed to the normals" Pelosi level entitled and stupid soon. Age and booze does that to entitled cunts like her, especially in the shithole that is Hollywood.

If you only knew how right you really were, and how bad things really are.

This happens all the time when you give anyone unearned and undeserved power/authority, but there is a uniquely awful Cat & Wine Aunt way that it transpires with middle aged women.
 
I think its pretty clear that KKK didn't care about Star Wars, she cared about the idea of her having control of Star Wars. That is, a huge wildly successful franchise that she could "put her mark on" and everyone would go see it and tell her how great she was. It could have been twilight, it could have been star trek, it could have been fucking The Fast and the Furious.

The following two posters got pretty close to the mark:





Except I don't really think she did what she did out of maliciousness as much as she wanted to scrub the franchise going forward free of all trace of Lucas except for the vaguest memberberries. She didn't want to be compared to George, she didn't want to be reminded of George, everything that came before TFA is irrelevant, only good for having attracted her an audience. TFA was supposed to be the bridge, the transition for old fans. She wanted Rian to come in, subvert expectations, and just completely and totally remove Lucas' fingerprints from the series so she'd have a completely free hand going forward. (Member when we were going to have a Star Wars movie every year? Pepperidge farm remembers)

And to a degree, I sort of feel for her. She spends her entire career as Lucas' right hand, bringing to life HIS vision, the way HE wants it, but never really getting to do what she wanted. So finally after literal decades she gets her shot, and she's sick of delivering someone else's plans and visions .... and immediately drives right off the fucking cliff.

What she should have done is found some undeveloped property and make that her own. But if she did that, she wasn't going to get A-list talent and $350 million budgets. (And she'd paid her dues, dammit! She DESERVES to have this power.)

And I think there was some real antipathy towards Star Wars fans. She got a front-row seat to see how Lucas was treated by them. I don't think she had any ill-will towards Lucas other than wanting to be out from under his shadow. She and Lucas seem to have a good relationship to the point Lucas was still going to bat for her on Indiana Jones. We've all seen the End of ROTJ meme, but I don't think that it occurred to her that rebooting the rebellion was shitting on the end of the original films. She just wanted to be doing her own thing for once.





If you only knew how right you really were, and how bad things really are.

This happens all the time when you give anyone unearned and undeserved power/authority, but there is a uniquely awful Cat & Wine Aunt way that it transpires with middle aged women.
Agree with everything in this post.

Just to add 2 cents, KK probably didn't have any other option but Star Wars available to her. She is a literally who figure and this was her best bet after "paying" her dues to have some real power and control. If it was succesful she would be seen like Kevin Feige it didn't though. If you were on GL's side and dealt with the star wars fandom from 2006-2015 you'd probably hate them too. They made a documentary about how bad George Lucas is and how he "literally raped their childhood". It's understandable in that light and if she was an actual fan of the universe and it wasn't just a power grab we might have gotten something good. As it stands she killed the most beloved movie franchise that exists and we have to hope that Favrou somehow gets in charge someway and resurrects it.


Edit: What happens if these last 5 years was all part of a long con for GL to get his redemption arc?
 
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And I suspect there's more going on with the 'it was okayed by Lucasfilm' defense regarding the Holdo Manuver. "Holdo destroys the First Order Fleet by ramming the big ship at speed" is a lot different than "Holdo destroys the First Order Fleet by ramming the big ship at lightspeed" in context. Or, more likely, nobody at Lucasfilm with the power to overturn that shit actually cared because KK at that point had largely made the whole shebang a pro-feminist haven.
Actually the idiots Rian went to for ok'ing his shit lore-wise are the same idiots JJ went to for ok'ing his dumb ideas, ie Hidalgo and Filoni. Hidalgo reasoned it as okay because Filoni wanted to introduce hyperspace ramming of his own in Filoni Wars which he considered to be the equivalent of something going supernova upon impact.
The same was later done and confirmed with a Filoni Wars tie-in guide.

And no, most at Lucasfilm with influence like Hidalgo and Filoni don't want to overturn shit because they love it and will defend it to death as now both have more influence than ever and Hidalgo will happily block you for so much as disagreeing, while former Lucasfilm sfx experts are now trying to dox people online during their free time for questioning them politically.

Some say the fault lies solely on Rian, while others say the fault lies solely on Kennedy, but the truth is it was a team effort. Kennedy, Rian, the Story Group, JJ, Hidalgo, Filoni, Chris "Porgcuck" Martin, Wendig, Del Rey, Ridley's acting, the list goes on. And Iger for letting it all fall apart because he was too busy counting his money, buying shit like crazy and thinking Kennedy knew what she was doing. And JJ's film was about as much of a dumb down as TLJ, only reason people are willing to notice it less is because he copied ANH to a tee, so he'll get praise for inspiring nostalgia while offering nothing new that's good on its own without being a carbon copy. Everything "good" about his shit was just a copypaste, and IX proves the man and the rest of Bad Robot don't have a single good writing bone in their bodies, much like the rest of nu-Lucasfilm. Luke being a failure was in the cards from the get-go as far back as Kasdan and JJ's first drafts, the only difference is JJ's unoriginal vision would've had Luke be a miserable wreck who the all-powerful lady Rey has to save and redeem by turning him into Yoda 2.0 to train her a bit before she fucks off to fight Kylo Ren on not-Bespin.
 
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I refuse to believe someone, especially with her career, can be that actually retarded.
She is that retarded, filled with daddy issues, and drunk.
Yes, but also: a lot of successful people are "that retarded". (E.g. Jack Ma trusted that WeWork cuckfaggot and his diva wife.)

Also, the creative process is complicated. I know people who were actually responsible for the media I love (small productions), who then turned around and shat out a turd as their next work. There are people who started strong, and then things went to fuck for no reason. Creative people generate a *lot* of retarded ideas, the problem is getting adequate feedback. If it can't be gotten because it's an indie production and everyone is a friend, or because it's a literary novel and no one in the business knows what is "good" anymore, or because anyone questioning Grrrl Power would be excommunicated from the church of woke, things turn to shit.

(Note: I'm not saying Kennedy made a mistake, I 100% believe she was out to destroy Star Wars (try to make it a lifestyle brand for wine aunts). I'm saying there are well-intentioned people out there whose output is indistinguishable from hers. A lot of great works had shitty early versions.)

obviously Snoke was supposed to be something other than some asshole in gold clothing who died like a bitch having accomplished literally nothing.
Haha what, it's JJ we're talking about. Snoke was never anything other than a mystery box, and while Ruin wasn't supposed to wreck the box, JJ would've been of no help whatsoever filling it.
 
Just to add 2 cents, KK probably didn't have any other option but Star Wars available to her. She is a literally who figure and this was her best bet after "paying" her dues to have some real power and control. If it was succesful she would be seen like Kevin Feige it didn't though. If you were on GL's side and dealt with the star wars fandom from 2006-2015 you'd probably hate them too. They made a documentary about how bad George Lucas is and how he "literally raped their childhood". It's understandable in that light and if she was an actual fan of the universe and it wasn't just a power grab we might have gotten something good. As it stands she killed the most beloved movie franchise that exists and we have to hope that Favrou somehow gets in charge someway and resurrects it.

Edit: What happens if these last 5 years was all part of a long con for GL to get his redemption arc?

The SW fandom did not make that documentary. A few whiny assholes did, but most SW fans saw the Prequels, laughed at them, then moved on to the SWEU and whatever else Lucasarts had to offer. The asshats who whined about Lucas raping their childhoods were online critic people who barely gave a shit about anything Star Wars outside of the movies, whereas most SW fans barely gave a shit about the Prequels' flaws and focused more on the expanded universe content.

Maybe this was a long con from Lucas. Or maybe God has a sense of humor. The same Red Letter Media fans who praised the SW buyout and wanted Lucas out of Star Wars now have so much egg on their faces. Especially since there's no shortage of non-Lucas SW content for people to enjoy, yet these assholes weren't satisfied until Lucas lost ownership of the franchise, which ironically led to the franchise's near extinction if it wasn't for Rogue One, the Mandalorian, and Season 7 of Clone Wars.
 
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Live from the Imperial outpost on Huk to bring you the latest news concerning rat feces!

1: Though many news outlets are currently shilling hard for nu-Mulan, many others are starting to do a 180 and call Disney racists and realizing "just how bad" SW is under them because of Boyega's comments. The woke is finally starting to bite them in the ass.
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Hopefully it bites their heads off too. Still hypocritical of them that an actor's comments are what make them call out Disney and not the fact that they're furloughing their employees who are forced to eat charity food while Iger and his execs are back to full pay and getting billions for sitting on their asses.
But don't protest Disney, just give them your money so they can use it to buy roach infested food for their employees or just toss cans their way like good little shills.
Regardless, Boyega's comments, whether you agree with him or not, have caused quite a stir.

2: The new Yoda design for High Republic has apparently been met with negative reception. Some claiming it changes nothing while others think the gold ensemble looks gaudy. Either pure coincidence or because of backlash to the character designs, SW.com has started releasing updated designs for High Republic characters, specifically giving them "battle outfits" which do little to improve their actual designs.
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The Karen Traviss namesake still looks like shit with cowpie hair.

3: Rumorfags are claiming S2 of the Mandalorian will put even more focus on Baby Yoda and supposedly the set's crew have even gotten new patches with Baby Yoda as the new face of the Mandalorian. I expect a lot of forced milking if true.

4: Star Wars youtube videos have apparently decreased greatly in views over the past summer. As even videos that should've easily hit a million views have failed to do so, and this is not just for official Disney content but even SW-focused fan channels like SW Explained and SW Theory that can barely get past 5 digit views in contrast to previous activity. However the Sims GE update received a rather odd increase of 500k views almost overnight despite barely breaking 400k during its first week, meanwhile the Alphabet Squadron game is still sitting at around only 400k views. Despite the increase in views, the Sims GE update video has also received a whopping increase in dislikes, with over 100k while its likes still sit at 41k (while the Squadron game sits at only 18k), so its possible the extra views are from the anti-SW and larger anti-EA communities. Regardless, overall SW activity on youtube, reddit and twitter (the former hotspots for Disney Wars drones) have severely decreased. I'm not good with graphs but I'm going to see if I can dig up something more precise if anyone's interested.

So what do you think this decline in activity and views means? Have the masses finally realized how fucking terrible its all gotten and how fucking awkward it is to like Star Wars now? Or are the shills right about this being due to a "calm before the storm" that the Mando trailer will unleash? Because based on what's going around, a trailer ain't coming any time soon.

5: Once again Disney has stolen fan designs for their comics.
The quality of the comics have also dipped even further as they keep trying to promote High Republic. I honestly can't give too much details on this beyond the video as I really don't want my brain cluttered with Aphra garbage again.

6: Speaking of comics, IDW is apparently in hot water and a Disney exec is taking over.

7: Not completely SW related, but Mulan is a mediocre bust in both reception and digital ticket sales, even Twitter isn't impressed. Despite this, Rotten Tomatoes has once again stepped in to alter perception on behalf of Disney, seemingly making some realized that maybe now they're irrelevant and not the dozens of times before that they pulled this crap.
To make matters worse, the movie is now being boycotted across China. So no Chinese yuan for them despite going the extra mile to make it pander to China. LMAO They tried so hard and blew it all but in the end it didn't even matter.

These last two come fresh from @Itchy Bacca.

8: The guy who played the Devaronian on the Mandalorian is getting harassed on Twitter over some JK Rowling bullshit.
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Now he's getting bashed for trannyphobia and whatnot.

9: The buff girl from The Mandalorian is also getting harassed for demanding that small businesses, services, churches, etc be allowed to open up and people take responsibility for their own lives. Naturally Twitter is trying to cancel her.
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10: I'm thinking of continuing the Cosmic Shitpost but its been so long that people might have forgotten some key elements, so if I continue it now I hope there won't be any confusion or that some are willing to retrace previous entries which I can supply links to, as the next part is going to explain a lot of unsolved details from the previous entries, specifically ones concerning the mysterious Notrons. Any questions?
 
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2: The new Yoda design for High Republic has apparently been met with negative reception. Some claiming it changes nothing while others think the gold ensemble looks gaudy. Either pure coincidence or because of backlash to the character designs, SW.com has started releasing updated designs for High Republic characters, specifically giving them "battle outfits" which do little to improve their actual designs.
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The former design looks like a character from a 3rd party DnD or fantasy book for a cleric, not a Jedi. The gold definitely doesn't complement their designs and they don't really feel like a Jedi to me. The latter just looks like a costume design for Cutthroat Island or some other shitty pirate movie. Just with a mental-illness hobo cut.

It just is failing to be memorable or look like something I'd expect a Jedi to wear.
4: Star Wars youtube videos have apparently decreased greatly in views over the past summer. As even videos that should've easily hit a million views have failed to do so, and this is not just for official Disney content but even SW-focused fan channels like SW Explained and SW Theory that can barely get past 5 digit views in contrast to previous activity. However the Sims GE update received a rather odd increase of 500k views almost overnight despite barely breaking 400k during its first week, meanwhile the Alphabet Squadron game is still sitting at around only 400k views. Despite the increase in views, the Sims GE update video has also received a whopping increase in dislikes, with over 100k while its likes still sit at 41k (while the Squadron game sits at only 18k), so its possible the extra views are from the anti-SW and larger anti-EA communities. Regardless, overall SW activity on youtube, reddit and twitter (the former hotspots for Disney Wars drones) have severely decreased. I'm not good with graphs but I'm going to see if I can dig up something more precise if anyone's interested.

So what do you think this decline in activity and views means? Have the masses finally realized how fucking terrible its all gotten and how fucking awkward it is to like Star Wars now? Or are the shills right about this being due to a "calm before the storm" that the Mando trailer will unleash? Because based on what's going around, a trailer ain't coming any time soon.

I suspect that it might actually be an organic growth in the form of violently pissed off Sims players dunking on EA and Disney for this. The Sims update should have been Cars themed of all things, but the Rat somehow found money to force this down their throats instead, despite it being last place. This is just people telling the company to go fuck themselves and that they will not give them any money for the product.

In other news, the Kids channel released a new trailer for this shitty idea, and its reception bombed. The prior trailer had a pathetic 15k views and actually had a 2-to-1 ratio of Likes to Dislikes as of writing this. The current video that is the result of Disney paying EA to do this over Cars currently can't even break out of the 10k barrier and is even between like-dislikes. It's been five days.

Oh, and those other two ads for Galaxy's Edge on the channel that I didn't show with pictorial evidence of their failure? How convenient not even a week later their view counts spike by well over 10k views while their interactions barely moved at all.

It's telling that the Rat is about as honest as any other scam or scheme.
7: Not completely SW related, but Mulan is a mediocre bust in both reception and digital ticket sales, even Twitter isn't impressed. Despite this, Rotten Tomatoes has once again stepped in to alter perception on behalf of Disney, seemingly making some realized that maybe now they're irrelevant and not the dozens of times before that they pulled this crap.
To make matters worse, the movie is now being boycotted across China. So now Chinese bucks for them despite going the extra mile to make it pander to China. LMAO They tried so hard and blew it all but in the end it didn't even matter.

These last two come fresh from ItchyBacca
Reminder that Rotten Tomatoes is owned by a man who clearly still works for Disney in all but name, since he reworked the site twice to ensure that he can rig the score as much as he can to make their films look good to investors.
10: I'm thinking of continuing the Cosmic Shitpost but its been so long that people might have forgotten some key elements, so if I continue it now I hope there won't be any confusion or that some are willing to retrace previous entries which I can supply links to, as the next part is going to explain a lot of unsolved details from the previous entries, specifically ones concerning the mysterious Notrons. Any questions?
Shit or put on a cheap mask and call yourself Softcock, err, Doomcock. You've been promising for weeks dude.
 
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