Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

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Talk about wasted resources, holy shit.
When the new baby arrives, not only will Mrs Empath realize the hard work required with a normal infant, but also that this new baby will surpass Luna in abilities by 3 months old, making it glaringly obvious just how severe the birth injury was to Luna, she will require full time, 24 hour care for the remainder of her life.

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Is Luna even "there" enough that they can't justify just straight up palliative care or letting her die in her sleep?

 

[GenociderSyo]

Luna's movements remind me of some of the primitive responses you see in those with brain injury. You'll notice that her arms in the stander are doing the exact same movement gross motor movement as in the painting. Also she never moves her hands across midline.
It could be a form of posturing:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK559135/

Or its just an involuntary movement based on how bad her brain is.

 

[Allo Vera]

Wow. That poor little girl.

I had every sympathy for the mother until she said “one day we will have the pass the caregiver torch to you”.

No, no you don’t. You make arrangements so that your disabled child is cared so their sibling doesn’t have to.

 

[Blonde Bomb]

I had every sympathy for the mother until she said “one day we will have the pass the caregiver torch to you”.

No, no you don’t. You make arrangements so that your disabled child is cared so their sibling doesn’t have to.

That's absolutely despicable. You don't burden your child like that, especially at such a young age. You don't let them grow up thinking that their future is restricted by their special needs sibling, that that child's needs come before their own hopes & dreams.

It's hard enough to be a 'normal' sibling of another with special needs. Can you imagine bringing friends over to play? A date home to that, especially as a teenager? What sort of person is going to want to marry someone who's been told their entire life that they will have to take care of a severely disabled person? Do you even bother to discuss having children of your own? Do the needs of that sibling come before your spouse and children? How do you hold down a normal job?

Fuck that lady.

 

[Peaches Demure]

I had every sympathy for the mother until she said “one day we will have the pass the caregiver torch to you”.

No, no you don’t. You make arrangements so that your disabled child is cared so their sibling doesn’t have to.

I noticed the passive aggressive resentfulness toward her normal child for daring to voice needs of their own. She clearly prioritizes the sped over her typically developing daughter, and she's not even trying to hide it. The "passing over the caregiver torch" was just the cherry on top. I hope the daughter makes a run for it the moment she's a legal adult.

 

[cuddle striker]

I don't know if any of you have seen that one documentary about people who had lived at Willowbrook before it was closed, I'll try to find a link to add here.

There's a guy in it whose brother has CP. He's also developmentally disabled/tard, but able to move, interact a little. He's got a personality and can communicate needs and all that. The brother never married, never had kids. His whole life has been wrapped up in "mom's favorite", the disabled brother. It's pretty sad.

here we go. 30 minutes in.

https://youtu.be/HNLyKW8fCNg

There's another guy, he's got CP but he's mentally normal. He was committed there, his family dumped him. The place was so understaffed nobody realized he was mentally normal. So fucked up.

 

[large_farva]

I noticed the passive aggressive resentfulness toward her normal child for daring to voice needs of their own. She clearly prioritizes the sped over her typically developing daughter, and she's not even trying to hide it. The "passing over the caregiver torch" was just the cherry on top. I hope the daughter makes a run for it the moment she's a legal adult.

Aw, how sweet, the daughter's first day of preschool, but it's all about mom and her potato.


I wonder how many years she would have kept up with dragging him along to her first day of school if it weren't for covid.

 

[Free the Pedos]

There's a guy in it whose brother has CP. He's also developmentally disabled/tard, but able to move, interact a little. He's got a personality and can communicate needs and all that. The brother never married, never had kids. His whole life has been wrapped up in "mom's favorite", the disabled brother. It's pretty sad.

This is what I think about when people criticize families for placing their special needs kids in professional care. Other family members shouldn’t be required to sacrifice their entire lives for their sibling or child.

 

[Freya]

dead babies are hilarious

 

[MysticMisty]

I wonder how many years she would have kept up with dragging him along to her first day of school if it weren't for covid.

Senior year of high school at the very least. He doesn't look nearly as fucked as some of the other ones here, like Kayli, who are pointlessly wheeled into the sped class, so I think chances are good he's going to be pointlessly wheeled into the sped class someday too. Only when that day comes it'll be more like his normal sister is dragged along on his first days of school, because mom doesn't seem to care about her going to normal classes with normal kids to learn like a normal kid, sadly.

If she goes to college, he'll be hauled to her dorm, too. And you better believe he's going to be in prom and graduation photos, in addition to tard prom and tard graduation (where she'll of course make a bigger deal about him with those than her at real prom and real graduation). I know these are bold predictions to make, but I'm already seeing serious shades of Cal Hartley going on there. We've already seen the future for this normal girl, and the future is grim.

 

[booklover]

My sister phrases it more professionally, I assure you, when interacting with patients. She encourages them to put all the energy they're putting into screaming into pushing. Making some grunts, groans and noises of exertion are, of course, normal during labor. Even the 'moo'-ing thing some women chose do to can be beneficial. But some women scream like maniacs, like they're auditioning to be a scream queen for Wes Craven. They get more focused on reacting to the pain than pushing, so she (and other nurses & doctors) try to get them to put all the energy & vocalizing (which can exhaust you) into a more productive task. Child birth is terrifying, especially for first time moms & my sister has excellent bedside manner. She's even trained herself not to roll her eyes when women get 'push gifts'.

She's made the constipation comparison to me because (as I'm sure many know) the pushing motion for giving birth and having a bowel movement are very similar. We don't scream when you bear down to take a shit.

When my SIL had her kids, she was told not to scream because it would just give her a sore throat, and like you said, she needed that energy for the actual pushing process. However, she was NEVER told that she was a drama queen, or any variation of that name.

I realise this thread has gone way off topic and we need to stop talking about childbirth, but it’s interesting how everyone talks gravely about the risks and complications of c sections but virtually never about the risks and complications of natural birth. Childbirth can cause some truly horrifying injuries with lifelong consequences.

Women are told that prolapses and incontinence is normal. I cringe when I see “Oops! Tee hee!” adverts for incontinence products. Why are we normalising this? If men accidentally pissed themselves all the time, would the medical profession be so dismissive?

Not to mention this shitshow, leaving women butchered by surgical mesh that were supposed to fix them:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6825407/One-20-women-injured-vaginal-mesh-scandal-attempted-suicide.html

The risks of a c section seems like a small price to pay compared with that.

I'm G0P0 and sometimes have stress incontinence. And men have it too, especially as they get into the senior years. My father has to wear guards for this reason.

Obstetrical fistulas (holes between the vagina and/or rectum) are fairly common in some Third World areas, and used to be common in this country as well. The one woman I have known personally who had one had a 10 1/2 pound baby in a 1-hour labor, and had they known he was that big, yes, they would have done a c-section.

PBS did a wonderful documentary a while back about a hospital in Ethiopia that repairs them, called "A Walk To Beautiful." Some of them women hadn't known that these COULD be fixed, because in their area, it was just something that happened to some women when they had their kids. This doctor would repair the fistula under spinal anesthesia, and tie her tubes IF SHE WANTED IT, and if she didn't, instruct her to return to the hospital "when the baby starts walking in your belly" and it would be delivered by c-section.

 

[ZapThePickle]

I can't get over how haunting Luna looks...I hope her Mom doesn't over bake the new potato, just so she can see what a real baby is like. Screaming, shitting, puking lil bundle of joy that needs attention every few hours.


I feel like thats gonna go one or two ways, she is gonna be thrilled to have a normal kid, or she's going to resent it sooo much and cling to her silent good baby.


Also Lunas head reminds me of a puffshroom? Ya step on it and it shoots a lil green cloud of spores....yea... those. Someone step on her head and but her outta misery

 

[Allo Vera]

So these images appeared in my Instagram “discover” feed yesterday. Says a lot about my browsing habits.

I thought Luna had the worst hydrocephalus I’d ever seen. I was wrong. No idea of the source of these images, they’ve obviously been stolen and reposted on a shitty clickbait account.

The cruellest thing about hydrocephalus is it doesn’t kill quickly enough.
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[Treasure Champs]

It's a South African mother and her baby that died at 7 months. Archive.

Apparently some scammers already used the images to crowdfund.

Super gross to use this poor woman's pain for clicks and money.

 

[Blonde Bomb]

I can't get over how haunting Luna looks...I hope her Mom doesn't over bake the new potato, just so she can see what a real baby is like. Screaming, shitting, puking lil bundle of joy that needs attention every few hours.


I feel like thats gonna go one or two ways, she is gonna be thrilled to have a normal kid, or she's going to resent it sooo much and cling to her silent good baby.


Also Lunas head reminds me of a puffshroom? Ya step on it and it shoots a lil green cloud of spores....yea... those. Someone step on her head and but her outta misery

Maybe it's already been covered, but do we know if Luna can feel pain? Like, could she be in constant pain & have no way of expressing it?

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

Hairy Potty, crystals, spirit animals, dream catchers= occult
This monstrous unsentient being somehow animated despite having a condition incompatible with life= not occult

Are you saying your sister says that to birthing women or she had that said to her when she was giving birth? That's an extremely cunty thing for a healthcare professional to say. People like that are what empower these homebirth freaks to flatout avoid proper medical care and kill their babies.

It's so unethical to waste occupational therapy resources on futile cases like these. Think of how many kids in the world would greatly benefit from OT but their families can simply not afford and access it. Yet brainless babies like Claire, Lola and Luna get it when it will do them no good. Their brains are so useless, they might as well be anencephalic.

There are so many children with relatively minor disabilities in America who come from poor and often dysfunctional families and live in awful school districts. Over half of American prisoners are functionally illiterate. And here’s Luna getting all this care while some little dyslexic child in the South Bronx is struggling and will continue to struggle because there’s 30 other kids and mom is working two jobs and dad is in jail and when that child grows up the cycle will repeat because what are you going to do in this country with yourself if you can’t read? That’s not even to mention the children of the third world with physical conditions that could be fixed or prevented if they lived in a developed country.

 

[Peaches Demure]

There are so many children with relatively minor disabilities in America who come from poor and often dysfunctional families and live in awful school districts. Over half of American prisoners are functionally illiterate. And here’s Luna getting all this care while some little dyslexic child in the South Bronx is struggling and will continue to struggle because there’s 30 other kids and mom is working two jobs and dad is in jail and when that child grows up the cycle will repeat because what are you going to do in this country with yourself if you can’t read? That’s not even to mention the children of the third world with physical conditions that could be fixed or prevented if they lived in a developed country.

You've basically described the plot of the movie "Precious" from 2009. Kids like that who are ignored by the system during their formative years WILL inevitably cost the system later on when they go to prison or end up having their children taken into foster care.

I get livid when I see hoards of expensive therapy tools shoved at hopeless cases like Luna and the Hartley potatoes who will never ever progress, when a poor kid from an urban area could benefit immensely from two hours a week of special tutoring to promote essential literacy.

 

[GenociderSyo]

Maybe it's already been covered, but do we know if Luna can feel pain? Like, could she be in constant pain & have no way of expressing it?

There is no reason to believe she doesn't have the capability to feel pain. Depending on what areas of her brain are damaged though there is no way to know how she processes it or to what degree she can process pain.

Fun horrific fact : It used to be believed autistic children felt no pain so they would not use anesthesia for simple surgical procedures.

I thought Luna had the worst hydrocephalus I’d ever seen. I was wrong. No idea of the source of these images, they’ve obviously been stolen and reposted on a shitty clickbait account.

Her issue isn't just hydrocephalus though, I beleive her disorder leads to a more clovershape skull then what you see in traditional hydrocephalus.

This is the worst case of Hydrocephalus I ever ran into online:
Roona Begum she died at 5 years old.

Spoiler: Child is severely Hydrocephalic - TLC Quick Documentary Video and Pics

Her at 3:

After surgeries (She had 5 in total before she died):

She looked rather normal for a bit before it came back:

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

There is no reason to believe she doesn't have the capability to feel pain. Depending on what areas of her brain are damaged though there is no way to know how she processes it or to what degree she can process pain.

Fun horrific fact : It used to be believed autistic children felt no pain so they would not use anesthesia for simple surgical procedures.


Her issue isn't just hydrocephalus though, I beleive her disorder leads to a more clovershape skull then what you see in traditional hydrocephalus.

This is the worst case of Hydrocephalus I ever ran into online:
Roona Begum she died at 5 years old.

Spoiler: Child is severely Hydrocephalic - TLC Quick Documentary Video and Pics

Her at 3:
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After surgeries (She had 5 in total before she died):
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She looked rather normal for a bit before it came back:
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I'm surprised she lasted that long. These kids are pretty potato, right? There's clearly someone "there" but considering hydrocephaly is constant, constant pressure bearing down on your brain I expected it to be the sort of thing that kills a few days after birth, or a few months at most. Maybe I'm a cold bitch but what kind of a life is it where you can't even learn how to crawl because your head is three times the size of your body, literally larger than an adult's?

Also double fun fact: apparently it was believed until like the 60's that babies wouldn't retain the memory of surgical operations so they just fucking strapped them down and cut them open, no anesthesia.

 

[LetThemEatCake]

Also double fun fact: apparently it was believed until like the 60's that babies wouldn't retain the memory of surgical operations so they just fucking strapped them down and cut them open, no anesthesia.

Yep. In the USA it was common right through the 70s and into the 80s actually. The US medical association didn't declare it unethical to deny infants anaesthesia while they cut them open until 1987. It was all for convenience too, no evidence behind the claim that a very young child cannot remember pain or be traumatised by a good long vivsection session 'for their own good' of course.

Opinion | Why Infant Surgery Without Anesthesia Went Unchallenged (Published 1987)

www.nytimes.com

They got away with openly torturing babies on operating tables for decades partly because they failed to inform the parents of the practice. And most importantly, because babies can't speak.

The medical world for all its self aggrandising about saving lives and muh medical ethics can be horrifically cruel as fuck and in utter denial of the fact, hiding behind dry terms such as 'best practice' and 'clinically indicated at the time' and pure denial of their evil when they do something clearly horrific that gets found out. Usually the victims are kids , the elderly or women in labour. Vulnerable people. I recall the experiments on disabled kids in institutions in the USA i the 60s/70s where the doctors would deliberately infect them with hepatitis via a contaminated drink then once infected, seperate kids into groups to receive expermental meds and to remsin untreated. Same shit as the Tuskagee Airmen, but with kids who couldn't understand or begin to seek help themselves. It's funny how medical ethics suddenly become flexible when the opportunity to learn stuff that might boost a career becones a simple matter of abusing people you or society considers rather disposable.

I suspect in tbe future keeping horribly fucked up kids that would normally pass away quickly in a life of pain with zero quality of life for years will be viewed for what it is too. I recall a doctor telling me how excited some colleagues were for the chance to observe and try new stuff on really fucked up cases because while they knew they were simply extending life to appease a clingy relative or parent, there was all sorts of good shit to be learned from extending life until the carcass simply gave up. People should realise when their kids are little more than Guinea pigs in some sick experiment and let them pass with dignity rather than allowing such antics.