2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Or that Republicans are actually listening to what Trump is saying and waiting to vote in person. Trump has been warning of mail-in fraud consistently and has taken action to prevent universal mail-in ballots. Even if Republicans perform low among mail ballots, that doesn't mean they won't turn out for Trump in-person by an even larger number where they can be sure it actually went through.

Not saying Trump will win for sure, but that doesn't mean much.

Trump still has to give it all he's got to eek out that narrow win. Remember how close 2016 was as Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan all went for him by less than 1%.

I'm feeling good on Maine 2nd Congressional District, Ohio, North Carolina, Iowa, Florida, and Georgia going to Trump which along with all of the solid red states (which I now consider Texas after the news Trump is beating Biden with Hispanics in Florida according to the Florida Martis poll which has him tied with Biden) puts him at 248 electoral votes. He then needs two or three of Arizona, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. If he loses Pennsylvania and Michigan, he can recover by keeping Arizona and Wisconsin while also flipping Minnesota. If he wins either Pennsylvania or Michigan, he only needs one more of Arizona, Minnesota, and Wisconsin to win. Should he somehow get Nebraska's 2nd Congressional District, which I suspect will be a Biden flip, that gives him more breathing room where he can barely squeak by with Minnesota/Wisconsin and one of Arizona, Michigan, or Pennsylvania.

Trump will lose in a 269-269 split. The Democrats control the House and they will elect Biden. He has to get to 270. Don't be surprised if Biden is banking on a Nebraska CD 2 flip.
269 tie is not about whether the House is red or blue, its about each state's delegation is red or blue. In a tie, each state gets 1 vote for president in the House decided by the current pool of representatives in each state. Last time I checked, Republicans have a majority of House Representatives in 27 states. In a tie, Trump would win.
 
I still fear of Biden "winning." I genuinely don't believe it's possible for him to win legitimately at this point, but there's so much at stake for the left that they will cheat tooth and nail to get what they want. To give an idea about just what will happen if they get away with it:

They'll "prove" that Trump was a random fluke and that the public really does want further subjugation from the leftist regime.

The constant riots, destruction, "wild"fires and murders were 100% justified and are "proof" that the public can be scared into compliance via threatening to tear the country apart.

They can lock down the country every election year (if any more even happen after this one) because somebody sneezed to ensure they can cheat by mail-in every time.

And who knows what other implications. And that's all before even getting into the horrors Copmala (brain-dead Biden won't last a month and they'll ditch him ASAP) will throw this already sorry state of a country into.
 
269 tie is not about whether the House is red or blue, its about each state's delegation is red or blue. In a tie, each state gets 1 vote for president in the House decided by the current pool of representatives in each state. Last time I checked, Republicans have a majority of House Representatives in 27 states. In a tie, Trump would win.

Bingo. House votes by delegation. One vote per state.
 
One candidate is pulling massive numbers at rallies and has boat parades held in his name while the other badly reads off teleprompters in his basement, but only before 9 AM because he sleepy.

Yet even the more optimistic kiwi's among us can only see a narrow win for the incumbent president at best? The absolute fucking state of this election. Three years of stellar economic figures prior to COVID in grave danger of being beaten by a handful of printing machines going brrrrr.
 
Recent polls are convincing me Arizona is leaning Biden now. Not the trash Biden +10 one that has equal Trump/Biden enthusiasm which suggests poor location reach, but the D shift there is clearly happening and quickly.
Actually pretty funny you brought this up, because this roundtable for Latinos is up.


Otherwise, I agree but for a different reason. The fact they're not going to look for missing or incorrect signatures on ballots is a huge concern for Trump in Arizona. This has been the most nerve-wrecking election yet.
 
One candidate is pulling massive numbers at rallies and has boat parades held in his name while the other badly reads off teleprompters in his basement, but only before 9 AM because he sleepy.

Yet even the more optimistic kiwi's among us can only see a narrow win for the incumbent president at best? The absolute fucking state of this election. Three years of stellar economic figures prior to COVID in grave danger of being beaten by a handful of printing machines going brrrrr.
>Yet even the more optimistic kiwi's among us can only see a narrow win for the incumbent president at best?
Congratulations, welcome to Demographic change.
 
One candidate is pulling massive numbers at rallies and has boat parades held in his name while the other badly reads off teleprompters in his basement, but only before 9 AM because he sleepy.

Yet even the more optimistic kiwi's among us can only see a narrow win for the incumbent president at best? The absolute fucking state of this election. Three years of stellar economic figures prior to COVID in grave danger of being beaten by a handful of printing machines going brrrrr.
Remember, this election has nothing to do with what Biden does. Trump's battle is not with him, it's with the media, the education system, the voting frauds, and the general powers that be who want to see this country destroyed and reshaped to their liking. All of them are blitzkrieging as hard as they fucking can to change the course of history for the worse, the constant stream of shitshows during this year are undeniable evidence of this.
 
Remember, this election has nothing to do with what Biden does. Trump's battle is not with him, it's with the media, the education system, the voting frauds, and the general powers that be who want to see this country destroyed and reshaped to their liking. All of them are blitzkrieging as hard as they fucking can to change the course of history for the worse, the constant stream of shitshows during this year are undeniable evidence of this.
On one hand this is all true, on the other it was true in 2016 as well.
 
On one hand this is all true, on the other it was true in 2016 as well.
The difference is back then, nobody took Trump seriously. They all wrote him off, laughed and got ready for "her turn." When that didn't pan out and it became evident enough of the public was turning against Current Year bullshit, that's where things went off the goddamn rails. Hence why now, the world is being turned upside down because they have become that rabidly desperate to get everyone back in line. I guarantee you the "new normal" shit for example would be next to non-existent if there wasn't so much at stake for the Dems.

We said no four years ago, and by all the fires of Hell they are trying to make us pay for that and ensure we don't have our say again.
 
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See look, you can do social distancing without having like 6 people total in the room.

Of course, I can't wait for someone on Twitter to say that Trump just doesn't want to get close to dirty Mexicans or something.
 
I guarantee you the "new normal" shit for example would be next to non-existent if there wasn't so much at stake for the Dems.
I sort of disagree here.

They would do this to any Republican, they will do every thing they can to get elected every single time. Saying "Oh my god trump can't win cause they are going to cheat this time." sort of assumes that they didn't cheat last time.
 
The sad thing is, if Trump wins, we're getting more rioting and possibly a bigger temper tantrum than what we got in 2016.

What I'm hoping for is in 2024 when the election is in full swing and we still have term limits and Trump is clearly out the door. I wonder if they'll admit they had an overblown reaction to Trump becoming a dictator for life.
Nah, they'll just go "Man, Trump sure was worse than Hitler. Let's make it so that the Republicans don't become president for the next few decades." Assuming they don't just decide to abolish the US 2 party system by 2024.

The difference is back then, nobody took Trump seriously. They all wrote him off, laughed and got ready for "her turn." When that didn't pan out and it became evident enough of the public was turning against Current Year bullshit, that's where things went off the goddamn rails. Hence why now, the world is being turned upside down because they have become that rabidly desperate to get everyone back in line. I guarantee you the "new normal" shit for example would be next to non-existent if there wasn't so much at stake for the Dems.

We said no four years ago, and by all the fires of Hell they are trying to make us pay for that and ensure we don't have our say again.
Problem is, some of that "New normal" isn't the fault of the government. The natural disasters, the Coronavirus, shit like that would have been mostly unavoidable even with their "best" efforts on either side. It certainly gives them an easy out to control the US and their relationships with the rest of the world, however.
 
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People are preparing for the worst.


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With numbers like this.... yeah guys Biden can win; Might want to start seriously considering that so you don't have an embarrassing meltdown on election day.
Biden absolutely can win, but things like this really don't mean much. I remember Clinton supporters constantly posting early ballot returns from states like North Carolina and Florida and thinking they had them in the bag, only for her lose those states.

That's why them losing so many states came as such a big shock to them.
 
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Biden absolutely can win, but things like this really don't mean much. I remember Clinton supporters constantly posting early ballot returns from states like North Carolina and Florida and thinking they had them in the bag, only for her lose those states.

That's why them losing so many states came as such a big shock to them.

The fact that so many people are early voting combined with the tendency of Democrats to vote by mail almost makes me think that we're going to get a "blue mirage", not a red one. Think about it: people will be incorrectly predicting the election already because so many mail-in ballots are Democrat (after the fake ones are sifted through.) Then November hits like a kick to the nuts, assuming that groups like antifa aren't going to try and do something stupid like physically terrorize voters away from the poll locations.

EDIT: Not thinking antifa's that stupid yet, let's see.
 
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The fact that so many people are early voting combined with the tendency of Democrats to vote by mail almost makes me think that we're going to get a "blue mirage", not a red one. Think about it: people will be incorrectly predicting the election already because so many mail-in ballots are Democrat (after the fake ones are sifted through.) Then November hits like a kick to the nuts, assuming that groups like antifa are going to try and do something stupid like physically terrorize voters away from the poll locations.

Best part about the 2016 election.

Hillary was winning swing states like Pennsylvania and Florida, and then "the Republicans got out of work to vote", and Trump took the lead in these states.
 
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