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Most people who call themselves "Libertarian socialist" are really trying to look like "the 'COOLER' socialists." Calling themselves "libertarian" is a shield for the "socialism" part, because they want to tax others and have the government pay for their shit, but also, not be called a hypocrite for directly benefiting from capitalism (i.e. like June who is paid to exist).

If she were actually libertarian in any way, she wouldn't say stupid shit like "private property isn't real" or "money is a social construct." Willing to bet she hasn't so much as read the Wikipedia page on "Libertarianism" and if you asked her who David Nolan was, she'd say "Who?"
I'm sure that for her, it's just being able to do whatever she wants... which is a broad and vague interpretation of what Libertarianism is.

I mean, she's pretty much asking for state-enforced freedom.

Wiki, otoh:

Libertarianism originated as a form of left-wing politics such as anti-authoritarian and anti-state socialists like anarchists,[6] especially social anarchists,[7] but more generally libertarian communists/Marxists and libertarian socialists.[8][9] Those libertarians seek to abolish capitalism and private ownership of the means of production, or else to restrict their purview or effects to usufruct property norms, in favor of common or cooperative ownership and management, viewing private property as a barrier to freedom and liberty.​

If Shoe wants to stop being called a commie, this ain't helping much, lol.
 
When you have the baby please come back and tell us. It will be funny as fuck when shoe is still single, but mostly because she presumably still won't own any private property, like a house or a car. Only posessing personal property like her iPhone which she uses to give bad marxist "socdem" stances on twatter.

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>You can own a house but not private property

A house is private property you fucking ass grape. This dumb shit must pluck out brain cells every time she pulls out her hair.
 
Libertarianism originated as a form of left-wing politics such as anti-authoritarian and anti-state socialists like anarchists,[6] especially social anarchists,[7] but more generally libertarian communists/Marxists and libertarian socialists.[8][9] Those libertarians seek to abolish capitalism and private ownership of the means of production, or else to restrict their purview or effects to usufruct property norms, in favor of common or cooperative ownership and management, viewing private property as a barrier to freedom and liberty.

If Shoe wants to stop being called a commie, this ain't helping much, lol.
WHY IS WIKIPEDIA POZZED. Just, folks, hold on, this is actually wrong.

The AIDS-dick that is modern leftism has raped the Libertarian wiki article to say "haha it's really communism guize"

I specifically point you to a more authentic and original version of the article from 2004 (long before the original founders of Wikipedia were booted and they denounced it as one big trojan horse for SJW-bullshit)


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Libertarian "socialism" isn't a real fucking thing... Socialists keep trying to make it a thing :thinking:
 
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Wiki, otoh:

Libertarianism originated as a form of left-wing politics such as anti-authoritarian and anti-state socialists like anarchists,[6] especially social anarchists,[7] but more generally libertarian communists/Marxists and libertarian socialists.[8][9] Those libertarians seek to abolish capitalism and private ownership of the means of production, or else to restrict their purview or effects to usufruct property norms, in favor of common or cooperative ownership and management, viewing private property as a barrier to freedom and liberty.​

If Shoe wants to stop being called a commie, this ain't helping much, lol.

"One gratifying aspect of our rise to some prominence is that, for the first time in my memory, we, 'our side,' had captured a crucial word from the enemy. 'Libertarians' had long been simply a polite word for left-wing anarchists, that is for anti-private property anarchists, either of the communist or syndicalist variety. But now we had taken it over. " - Murray Rothbard, anarcho-capitalist writer


Based Murray cucked the left out of a entire word.
 
Are you still pretending she's a mute autistic or have you moved past the CameraLady saga?

i mean i stream with my gf so it's not hard to confirm.

as for CL, i genuinely don't understand where the 'mute' thing came from. she speaks when she appeared in some very old anime videos in the deep backlogs of my channel. but she moved away in 2016 and i don't have much contact with her anymore. in any case she was never me, sorry.
 
Libertarian Socialism is akin to Satanic Christendom or Healthy Obesity.
Who makes these labels up and thinks they're good?
People who have no idea what they are talking about or those who want a movement to be something that is not because they know the negative side would affect them directly.

Imagine all those liberal muslims who keep claiming Islam is in fact pro-gay because they know that their muslim identity will protect them for any criticism in the West and they won't let that go even if it means to pander for a religion that mandates you should be killed.

In Shoe's case, she wants an economical nanny state that will provide everybody their basic needs while, at the same time, have zero allegiance to that state that she's expecting it won't meddle into her life.
 
Libertarianism as a philosophy has some actually good ideas to apply to your personal life... That is, if you actually understand it, and don't just call yourself "libertarian" because you want to be special or something. (libertarian socialist lmao) I don't believe June is libertarian in any way except the most surface level stuff like "human rights gud." She's otherwise pretty clearly a socialist, at best.

The libertarian party itself is glowing so hard you can see it from space. It's like it's being vandalized, I don't know what else to call it. The wikipedia article even says it's "marxism" which it isn't and never was, but wikipedia glows too. You can see the old wayback-machine archives yourself and see how much the page was changed in 15 years.

Lots of people who identify as libertarian are not actual libertarians--They're either retards like June who are LARPing socialists trying to seem better than they are, or literally fucking feds lmao. That's not a joke by the way. (:_(

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Libertarianism as a philosophy has some actually good ideas to apply to your personal life... That is, if you actually understand it, and don't just call yourself "libertarian" because you want to be special or something. (libertarian socialist lmao) I don't believe June is libertarian in any way except the most surface level stuff like "human rights gud." She's otherwise pretty clearly a socialist, at best.

The libertarian party itself is glowing so hard you can see it from space. It's like it's being vandalized, I don't know what else to call it. The wikipedia article even says it's "marxism" which it isn't and never was, but wikipedia glows too. You can see the old wayback-machine archives yourself and see how much the page was changed in 15 years.

Lots of people who identify as libertarian are not actual libertarians--They're either retards like June who are LARPing socialists trying to seem better than they are, or literally fucking feds lmao. That's not a joke by the way. (:_(

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I've know plenty of "libertarians" and can honestly only name 2 dudes I personally know who are on the level and even they say that "mainstream" libertarianism is fucking retarded and it's more a personal ideal. The rest are just retards that want weed legal and even though none of them have ever run a business they have super hard ons for deregulating any and everything business related. I legit had a dude argue with me that doing away with all the regulations for chemical dumping is an awesome idea because people have smart phones and someone will get footage of a company dumping chemicals and we'll socially shame them into not doing it again.

Also, Shoe is dumb and it will be entertaining to watch her massive decline as what looks she has quickly fade and people start to actually listen to her instead of lookin at them nice titttays.
 
I've know plenty of "libertarians" and can honestly only name 2 dudes I personally know who are on the level and even they say that "mainstream" libertarianism is fucking retarded and it's more a personal ideal. The rest are just retards that want weed legal and even though none of them have ever run a business they have super hard ons for deregulating any and everything business related.
This exactly. Most people who identify as libertarian online are attention whoring IMO because they just "suddenly" decided to be libertarian very recently, sometimes little as a few ones, most are like 1-2 years tops. It's not like they actually believe in libertarianism, they just want to be different. Always trying to sound "super smart and special" and ranting about "muh society" while knowing nothing about economic or politics, on top of literally not even knowing what libertarianism is, such as the history.

I have some friends who were libertarian before it went mainstream in 2016-ish, they're nothing like the edgelords I see on twitter and shit. So... Seriously, who the fuck are these people? Edgelords/attention whores, or glowies.

Also, a lot are stealth marxist. Even the fat retarded dude who showed up at the (James weeks) is a fucking marxist. He HATES actual libertarianism and likes troll baiting. No one who is actually libertarian believes he's a "libertarian"

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That all said, Shoe0nhead falls into the category of "libertarian for attention" .... Consider she's said some of the most retarded things ("economy isn't real, money is a social construct"). She's butt buddies with Vaush and a many other hyper-leftoids. She also supports Bernie Sanders, and not Gary Johnson or Jo Jorgensen.

She doesn't give 2 shits about Libertarianism, consistently gives takes that are the opposite of those politics, and leans heavily left wing. There is no purpose to calling herself "libertarian socialist" except to sound cooler or something.
 
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This exactly. Most people who identify as libertarian online are attention whoring IMO because they just "suddenly" decided to be libertarian very recently, sometimes little as a few ones, most are like 1-2 years tops. It's not like they actually believe in libertarianism, they just want to be different. Always trying to sound "super smart and special" and ranting about "muh society" while knowing nothing about economic or politics, on top of literally not even knowing what libertarianism is, such as the history.

I have some friends who were libertarian before it went mainstream in 2016-ish, they're nothing like the edgelords I see on twitter and shit. So... Seriously, who the fuck are these people? Edgelords/attention whores, or glowies.

Also, a lot are stealth marxist. Even the fat retarded dude who showed up at the (James weeks) is a fucking marxist. He HATES actual libertarianism and likes troll baiting. No one who is actually libertarian believes he's a "libertarian"

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That all said, Shoe0nhead falls into the category of "libertarian for attention" .... Consider she's said some of the most retarded things ("economy isn't real, money is a social construct"). She's butt buddies with Vaush and a many other hyper-leftoids. She also supports Bernie Sanders, and not Gary Johnson or Jo Jorgensen.

She doesn't give 2 shits about Libertarianism, consistently gives takes that are the opposite of those politics, and leans heavily left wing. There is no purpose to calling herself "libertarian socialist" except to sound cooler or something.
Not to derail this thread but Gary Johnson is a fucking moron and Jo hasn't really impressed me too much but she's aight compared to the two mainstream candidates. Most the libertarians I know, have been since like 2010-2012 and most of them have since converted to main stream R/D politics.
 
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Not to derail this thread but Gary Johnson is a fucking moron and Jo hasn't really impressed me too much but she's aight compared to the two mainstream candidates. Most the libertarians I know, have been since like 2010-2012 and most of them have since converted to main stream R/D politics.
I question why exactly shoe0nhead supported Bernie Sanders and not Gary Johnson.
tl;dr Bernie gives out free shit and Gary doesn't.

Assuming the key difference to shoe is socialism, I think this is where shoe's libertarian-socialist split comes from... I don't disagree that public health services are a beneficial idea, buuuuuuuut there's literally no fucking money. Bernie Sanders, wants to socialize healthcare and human services heavily, but it would create an unsustainable deficit of trillions that the US literally has no money to pay for, being it's already $26 trillion in debt. On the other hand: Gary managed to get rid of a budget deficit in his state (AZ, $1Bn+) while lowering taxes. GJ is not big on free healthcare or medicaid because of the costs, which makes sense financially with all the debt.

June herself, goes pretty hard about free healthcare and I assume that came at least partly from Armored Skeptic being a Canadian leaf who enjoys shitting on the US for not having socialized medicine. Logically, it makes more sense to not add to the US debt, but free shit "sounds" like a good idea and that's actually dumb.

OT about Gary specifically: Never understood the hate. I know you may not agree, my opinion is Gary Johnson>Bernie Sanders. GJ has an excellent record and his personal life is impressive and scandal free. He's messed up a lot of times in public speaking and sounded like an autist, and Austin Peterson tried hard to troll him. But I think the hate is really unfair compared to most politicians who lie like snakes.
 
I question why exactly shoe0nhead supported Bernie Sanders and not Gary Johnson.
tl;dr Bernie gives out free shit and Gary doesn't.

Assuming the key difference to shoe is socialism, I think this is where shoe's libertarian-socialist split comes from... I don't disagree that public health services are a beneficial idea, buuuuuuuut there's literally no fucking money. Bernie Sanders, wants to socialize healthcare and human services heavily, but it would create an unsustainable deficit of trillions that the US literally has no money to pay for, being it's already $26 trillion in debt. On the other hand: Gary managed to get rid of a budget deficit in his state (AZ, $1Bn+) while lowering taxes. GJ is not big on free healthcare or medicaid because of the costs, which makes sense financially with all the debt.

June herself, goes pretty hard about free healthcare and I assume that came at least partly from Armored Skeptic being a Canadian leaf who enjoys shitting on the US for not having socialized medicine. Logically, it makes more sense to not add to the US debt, but free shit "sounds" like a good idea and that's actually dumb.

OT about Gary specifically: Never understood the hate. I know you may not agree, my opinion is Gary Johnson>Bernie Sanders. GJ has an excellent record and his personal life is impressive and scandal free. He's messed up a lot of times in public speaking and sounded like an autist, and Austin Peterson tried hard to troll him. But I think the hate is really unfair compared to most politicians who lie like snakes.
Point 1) She supported Bernie cause it was popular in her sphere and as with almost every single person who outwardly supports any political candidate or movement to any degree beyond, "Hey, I kinda like that guy/idea", it's just lazy, moral masturbation to feel like you're fighting for what's right without actually contemplating the deeper issues at hand. I see this from all sides of the political spectrum and it's gay.

Point B) I'm going to refrain from discussing my personal thoughts on the healthcare system here because as I said, I'm not trying to shit up this thread, we can take that shit elsewhere.

Point 3) Gary Johnson is a lolbertarian politician and that's all I feel I need to say about that.

Paragraph 9, subpoint 2) Throw a couple whiskeys dow my hatch an a toot of molly in the ol sniffer and shoe could still get it.
 
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