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Since I haven't seen it posted yet: the NYT leak of Trump's tax returns.

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In this case, the TDS comes from being desperate to portray Trump as a failed business man. Mostly they're quoting huge losses on the books, which is how he reduces taxable income. There's a lot of doom-mongering over some of his debts coming due in the next few year, totaling "hundreds of millions of dollars". Other bits are tracking the "millions" he made from hosting Miss Universe in Moscow in 2013, which is naturally viewed as a slam dunk mUh rUSsiA proof.

Also: hope springs eternal in the TDS-afflicted mind.

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So, when will the American people stop wearing mask? After all haven't the coronavirus ran its course? Cause i haven't heard of a surge in cases.

In blue states? Not unless Trump wins and puts the pressure on them to knock their dictatorship antics off. Here in Michigan, not only is Whitmer digging her heels in on the mandates, but the pro-mask/virus propaganda's actually gotten worse as the election nears. There's no end in sight, and she's succeeded in brainwashing a fair amount of people into buying this as "THE NEW NORMAL" and blaming Trump for it.

The Dems will never drop this crap unless they're forced to.
 
You don't.

We might read your thread and mention it, but we don't link to your posts and tag you guys. You guys can read our thread and say "I checked out the TES thread. The TES tards sure are stupid", but just don't link us or quote us. It's like a quiet peace
 
Since I haven't seen it posted yet: the NYT leak of Trump's tax returns.

archive

In this case, the TDS comes from being desperate to portray Trump as a failed business man. Mostly they're quoting huge losses on the books, which is how he reduces taxable income. There's a lot of doom-mongering over some of his debts coming due in the next few year, totaling "hundreds of millions of dollars". Other bits are tracking the "millions" he made from hosting Miss Universe in Moscow in 2013, which is naturally viewed as a slam dunk mUh rUSsiA proof.

Also: hope springs eternal in the TDS-afflicted mind.

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Quoting my response in the A&N thread:
Not only does he only take a dollar in wages, he handed off his businesses to his children to manage. Non-dividend paying cap gains aren’t taxable until you sell stock. And he’s living on the public dime.

He’s still probably getting 20k a year or so in taxable dividends/annuity payments in order to actually make enough to owe federal income taxes.
Are Americans really this financially illiterate? We need better civic and economic education, sweet mercy
 
Since I haven't seen it posted yet: the NYT leak of Trump's tax returns.

archive

In this case, the TDS comes from being desperate to portray Trump as a failed business man. Mostly they're quoting huge losses on the books, which is how he reduces taxable income. Other bits are tracking the "millions" he made from hosting Miss Universe in Moscow in 2013, which is naturally viewed as a slam dunk mUh rUSsiA proof.

Also: hope springs eternal in the TDS-afflicted mind.

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He won the US Presidency spending something like one fifth of the amount on campaigning. And people are still like "TRUMPS A FAILURE, DON'T YOU SEE?!?" I'm like Jesus get a grip. Why do find some real reasons to counter people with? Why does it have to be "His STUPID WALK, the STUPID WAY HE says things, HE'S SO DUUUUMB, HE'S A BABY"

Like he puts too much support behind Israel? thats a good one.
 
Quoting my response in the A&N thread:

Are Americans really this financially illiterate? We need better civic and economic education, sweet mercy

Scanning through responses on Twitter (yeah, I know), the pro-Trump people seem to get it, even if they don't use the right terms. The anti-Trump people focus on the losses, because they really need to call him a failure.

I think the $750 is just the eye-catching, tone-setting headline the NYT used. No one is really confused why his income tax is so low, they focus on other bits to support whichever narrative they want to push.
 
Only if we rename this to "Unironic completely serious TES thread".

It goes both ways. Both threads would be easy pickings for the other thread. We don't want you guys shitting up our thread and you guys don't want us shitting up our thread, so we have an unspoken rule where we leave each others threads alone
We don't spend the majority of this thread talking about how wonderful and perfect trump is, we laugh at retards that pretend every single tweet of his is apocalyptic.
Meanwhile, your thread barely ever mentions anyone who actually goes overboard with unironic god emperor crap, it's just the site's collection of miserable cat ladies in a sewing circle, talking about how much they hate trump.
 
We don't spend the majority of this thread talking about how wonderful and perfect trump is, we laugh at retards that pretend every single tweet of his is apocalyptic.
Meanwhile, your thread barely ever mentions anyone who actually goes overboard with unironic god emperor crap, it's just the site's collection of miserable cat ladies in a sewing circle, talking about how much they hate trump.

Honestly I hadn't read this thread in months until I was tagged a short while ago
 
He won the US Presidency spending something like one fifth of the amount on campaigning. And people are still like "TRUMPS A FAILURE, DON'T YOU SEE?!?" I'm like Jesus get a grip. Why do find some real reasons to counter people with? Why does it have to be "His STUPID WALK, the STUPID WAY HE says things, HE'S SO DUUUUMB, HE'S A BABY"

Like he puts too much support behind Israel? thats a good one.
I've said this before and I think it's fairly true: almost every rational critique of Trump comes from people further right than him.

Because when it comes down to it, Trump is a New York Liberal. He likes the gays, he doesn't care about immigration as long as it's legal, he's all-in on letting black criminals out of prison, and he loves Israel. The reason why he seems so right-wing to our country now is because we're basically living in bizarro world where we had nearly a lifetime of back-to-back neoliberal globalist Presidents who didn't give a fuck about the country at all. So even the barest hint of national pride (which Trump certainly does have) is considered "far right."

In any non-Anglosphere country he'd be center-left or center-right.
 
I've said this before and I think it's fairly true: almost every rational critique of Trump comes from people further right than him.

Because when it comes down to it, Trump is a New York Liberal. He likes the gays, he doesn't care about immigration as long as it's legal, he's all-in on letting black criminals out of prison, and he loves Israel. The reason why he seems so right-wing to our country now is because we're basically living in bizarro world where we had nearly a lifetime of back-to-back neoliberal globalist Presidents who didn't give a fuck about the country at all. So even the barest hint of national pride (which Trump certainly does have) is considered "far right."

In any non-Anglosphere country he'd be center-left or center-right.
Where would he be in Sweden?
In blue states? Not unless Trump wins and puts the pressure on them to knock their dictatorship antics off. Here in Michigan, not only is Whitmer digging her heels in on the mandates, but the pro-mask/virus propaganda's actually gotten worse as the election nears. There's no end in sight, and she's succeeded in brainwashing a fair amount of people into buying this as "THE NEW NORMAL" and blaming Trump for it.

The Dems will never drop this crap unless they're forced to.
Holy shit, is this going to become a longstanding cultural divide, like how East Asian university students often wear surgical masks? The mask marking the blue state American just as surely as the Hijab signifies the Muslim.
 
I've said this before and I think it's fairly true: almost every rational critique of Trump comes from people further right than him.

Because when it comes down to it, Trump is a New York Liberal. He likes the gays, he doesn't care about immigration as long as it's legal, he's all-in on letting black criminals out of prison, and he loves Israel. The reason why he seems so right-wing to our country now is because we're basically living in bizarro world where we had nearly a lifetime of back-to-back neoliberal globalist Presidents who didn't give a fuck about the country at all. So even the barest hint of national pride (which Trump certainly does have) is considered "far right."

In any non-Anglosphere country he'd be center-left or center-right.
I'm trying to find it again, but a friend of mine from Poland linked me an article (or a forum/reddit post? I don't remember) early in the year where someone listed Trump's policies, achievements and issues. The catch is that the author of the article anonymized everything (including the nation he presides over), ignored the "WE'LL GET HIM THIS TIME, WE SWEAR" fauxtroversies and didn't use any of the media buzzwords that are usually thrown at him. Trump's name was nowhere to be found.

And with that, he sounded like a completely normal, fairly competent run-of-the-mill socially-liberal-fiscally-conservative leader with a focus on diplomatic solutions and internal development, and the occasional funny slip of the tongue. Trump's image is almost entirely a result of the barrage of libel being thrown his way for the past five years. Without it, he'd be as inoffensive as pre-9/11 Dubya is remembered as being. A flamboyant and occasionally crass businessman everybody knows is crooked to some level, but not someone you'd have any reason to hate unless you were a complete radical to begin with.
 
Only if we rename this to "Unironic completely serious TES thread".

It goes both ways. Both threads would be easy pickings for the other thread. We don't want you guys shitting up our thread and you guys don't want us shitting up our thread, so we have an unspoken rule where we leave each others threads alone
What about....

"Trump True-believers" and "What Dumb Donald Did Today"
?

Or!

"We love Trump! (ironically)" and "We hate Trump! (ironically)"
?
 
When I hire a plumber I only care that he fixes the fucking problem. I don't give a shit whether he looks "plumberian", whether he knows the entirety of The Piper at The Gates Of Dawn by Pink Floyd or that his favorite book is The Pipemaiden's Tale.

I just want that leak gone.
 
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