Chinese Communist Party Megathread - Cold War 2: Electric Boogaloo

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

I meant to put this up a few days ago but it got lost. I was going to write it up a bit more but I'm fucked now.

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Here he is with our fave poster girl:

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NEW YORK (AP) — A New York City police officer was charged on Monday with being an “intelligence asset” for the Chinese government who agreed to spy on U.S. supporters of the Tibetan independence movement.
Baimadajie Angwang, a naturalized U.S. citizen from Tibet, worked since 2018 as an agent for the People’s Republic of China in its effort to suppress the movement, according to a criminal complaint filed in Brooklyn federal court. It says he secretly worked for unnamed handlers from the Chinese consulate in New York.
There was no allegation that Angwang compromised national security or New York Police Department operations. Still, he was considered “the definition of an insider threat,” William Sweeney, head of the FBI’s New York office, said in a statement.

https://archive.vn/l0JFX

NEW YORK — A New York City police officer and Army reservist was charged on Monday with being an “intelligence asset” for the Chinese government who agreed to spy on U.S. supporters of the Tibetan independence movement.

Baimadajie Angwang, a naturalized U.S. citizen from Tibet, worked since 2018 as an agent for the People’s Republic of China in its effort to suppress the movement, according to a criminal complaint filed in Brooklyn federal court. It says he secretly worked for unnamed handlers from the Chinese consulate in New York.

https://archive.vn/bpSii

A 33-year-old NYPD officer and ethnic Tibetan native of China has been arrested for allegedly acting as an agent of a foreign government, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said Monday.

The cop, Baimadajie Angwang, who is a naturalized U.S. citizen and patrol officer with the 111th precinct in Queens, is also accused of lying about his foreign contacts, the complaint said. He allegedly was engaged in the espionage-related activity from May 2018 through his arrest.

Angwang faces charges including acting as an agent of a foreign government without prior notification to the attorney general, wire fraud, making false statements about his contacts and obstruction of an official proceeding.

https://archive.vn/uJ7oM

I wonder what AOC's opinion is of the CCP holocausting Muslims.

On another note, China really needs to fucking learn to stop picking a fight with so many countries at once. Taiwan, Japan, and South Korea don't like them, lots of the world is against them after what they did in Hong Kong, and thry've even pissed off Vietnam, their fucking Communist neighbor. You'd think they'd have learned their lesson back in 1979, not to fuck with vietnam. They don't have as much support as they think they do, either. For example, they've been trying to win over Bangladesh with lots of gifts - but so has India. Bangladesh seems perfectly content to let the two countries fight over them as long as the stuff keeps coming in (because Bangladesh isn't exactly a well-off country), and making a choice when there's no real need to would cut the flow of goodies into their country. If they were ever forced to choose, though, which do you think they'd go with? The generally friendly country that surrounds them, or the one who's close with Pakistan (the country they had to fight for their independence from) and only really came into the picture recently?

If there's anything China guaranteed with the Cultural Revolution, it was that learning can only be a bad thing.

 

[Pixy]

Does anyone remember that story from China about a couple who refused to sell their property to the local government, which wanted to demolish a neighbourhood and build a new main road in its stead? The money they were offered was a decent amount less than what they had paid for the house. They got their way, but the government turned their home into a roundabout instead, building the road around it.

It's the small acts of defiance like this that break the narrative that the party desires to portray (both internally and externally) of a population wholly loyal to them. I feel like too many people people buy into the narrative that the government wants to portray of itself.

On another note, I'm surprised they weren't forced by the government to sell their property after they refused the initial offers, and were able to keep it, albeit with a major drawback of the road. If that happened in Australia, the federal government is allowed to, under Section 51 of the Australian Constitution, make laws with respect to "the acquisition of property on just terms from any State or person for any purpose in respect of which the Parliament has power to make laws."

In practise, this has manifested in State governments compelling property owners to sell their property at considerably lower values so that they can embark on major (and increasingly frequently overtime) infrastructure projects.

 

[Least Concern]

I saw some people briefly mentioning some unsavory stuff from the KMT earlier in the thread, is there anywhere you'd recommend I'd read about that stuff from?

It might sound silly, but Wikipedia. They've got pretty extensive articles about the KMT, the history of the RoC, and so on. Let yourself go down a good old-fashioned Wikipedia rabbit-hole for an hour or two. If you specifically want an unsavory event from KMT history which I don't think has been mentioned in this thread before, there's the February 28 incident, when the RoC under the KMT brutally suppressed anti-government protests in Taipei - and this was in '47, before the retreat off the mainland.

EDIT: Though I should add that the KMT and RoC have since come to recognize that perhaps massacring a few thousand civilians wasn't a good look, chief, and they openly acknowledge it as a dark spot in their history and there are now parks and memorials and such which commemorate the incident. Rather unlike a certain June 4 incident that occurred in Beijing a few decades later.

Does anyone remember that story from China about a couple who refused to sell their property to the local government, which wanted to demolish a neighbourhood and build a new main road in its stead? The money they were offered was a decent amount less than what they had paid for the house. They got their way, but the government turned their home into a roundabout instead, building the road around it.

There's actually many incidences of this and either one particular story or the concept in general gets picked up by a major western outlet every few years. Search "dingzihu" and all sorts of stories will pop up. Here's an article from The Guardian in 2014 with some pretty ridiculous pictures.

The US as well has pretty well established precedent for "eminent domain" where a government that wants to build a highway or something can just yoink your property while paying you something that may or may not resemble the actual market value for it. That a People's Republic of any sort is more ancap in its respect for property rights than The Goddamn You Ess of Fuckin' A (screaming eagle sound effect) is pretty disheartening.

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

Somewhat related, what the war might be like:

 

[Archeopthryx]

Does anyone remember that story from China about a couple who refused to sell their property to the local government, which wanted to demolish a neighbourhood and build a new main road in its stead? The money they were offered was a decent amount less than what they had paid for the house. They got their way, but the government turned their home into a roundabout instead, building the road around it.

It's the small acts of defiance like this that break the narrative that the party desires to portray (both internally and externally) of a population wholly loyal to them. I feel like too many people people buy into the narrative that the government wants to portray of itself.

On another note, I'm surprised they weren't forced by the government to sell their property after they refused the initial offers, and were able to keep it, albeit with a major drawback of the road. If that happened in Australia, the federal government is allowed to, under Section 51 of the Australian Constitution, make laws with respect to "the acquisition of property on just terms from any State or person for any purpose in respect of which the Parliament has power to make laws."

In practise, this has manifested in State governments compelling property owners to sell their property at considerably lower values so that they can embark on major (and increasingly frequently overtime) infrastructure projects.

I kinda remember that. As I recall they were old right? Kinda funny that they were desperately infusing Confucian values right back into the country after they disavowed it. They kinda forgot back then that they will grow old too so they have to cover their ass and brought it back.

 

[benutz]

Does anyone remember that story from China about a couple who refused to sell their property to the local government, which wanted to demolish a neighbourhood and build a new main road in its stead? The money they were offered was a decent amount less than what they had paid for the house. They got their way, but the government turned their home into a roundabout instead, building the road around it.

It's the small acts of defiance like this that break the narrative that the party desires to portray (both internally and externally) of a population wholly loyal to them. I feel like too many people people buy into the narrative that the government wants to portray of itself.

On another note, I'm surprised they weren't forced by the government to sell their property after they refused the initial offers, and were able to keep it, albeit with a major drawback of the road. If that happened in Australia, the federal government is allowed to, under Section 51 of the Australian Constitution, make laws with respect to "the acquisition of property on just terms from any State or person for any purpose in respect of which the Parliament has power to make laws."

In practise, this has manifested in State governments compelling property owners to sell their property at considerably lower values so that they can embark on major (and increasingly frequently overtime) infrastructure projects.

Can't help with that one, but it reminded me of this for some reason:

Arrested and taken away for "inciting anti-police views on social media"

These officers think they can charge him with "harassing Essex Police Force". Thank you to JoePublic for permission to upload this: https://www.youtube.com/c...

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It's a bad one. This is a chinese guy getting tortured (lite) by chinky cops coz he mouthed off one night when pissed up.

The cops ask him: "how many fingers am I holding up Winston?"
He replies: "However many you say there are, I'm sorry".

It's here. It's now. Fuck these chinky cunts and what these commie cunts want from us. You know it's the same thing.

It's in the first few minutes, forget the rest, Crimebodge is a bit of a twat. But fuck me, nailed to the table like that?

Wew...

 

[PozzedByCoronachan]

Not sure if it's already been posted but for anyone wanting a recap of all of China's territorial claims, CaspianReport just released a video a few days ago talking about all of them

In short, they've got border disputes with 17 other countries, most of them in the SCS but still, the only neighbors they don't have claims on are Kazakh/Tajikistan (since Russia would get upset) and Vietnam (although they probably still claim the north as rightful chinese land).

 

[Super-Chevy454]

I wonder what AOC's opinion is of the CCP holocausting Muslims.

I wondered the same question, I guess she'll said "la-la-la can't hear you".

If there's anything China guaranteed with the Cultural Revolution, it was that learning can only be a bad thing.

And they still hadn't learned.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Not sure if it's already been posted but for anyone wanting a recap of all of China's territorial claims, CaspianReport just released a video a few days ago talking about all of them

In short, they've got border disputes with 17 other countries, most of them in the SCS but still, the only neighbors they don't have claims on are Kazakh/Tajikistan (since Russia would get upset) and Vietnam (although they probably still claim the north as rightful chinese land).

So even North Korea is in a slapfight with China over territory, and of course it happens to be over a river that China will no doubt siphon to the last drop if they were to get their hands on it, and North Korea has a hard on for nuclear bombs. I can totally see shit going very sour for China over the next few years, and if there is a World War 3, China will be isolated, surrounded on all sides and their fair-weather allies will likely bail on them at the first opportunity. If everyone gangs up on China, you can bet that Russia will join in.

 

[Rob_Mercury]

I like this thread cause im a history sperg and already have good understanding of European history from the thirty years war onward, so now im trying to get more into Chinese and Japanese history. For those interested in knowing more about Mao, I would recommend the biography made by his physician Li Zhisui, The private life of Chairman Mao: the memoirs of Mao's private physician. BIG book, but fucking fascinating. A few details about his patient:

• Had sex like crazy with peasant girls that thought him a god.
• Never brushed his teeth, instead gurgled tea every day.
• His very old barber had to do his work while Mao was reading.
• Spent most of his time in Beijing at his pool, including sleeping there.
• Traveled by train across China like some 20th century feudal lord.
• Because of his past in guerrilla warfare he could/would stay awake for days then going to sleep for twelve hours.
• "Swam" in the Yangtze, causing his security detail to shit themselves over his safety (Swam in quotation marks cause just let his body float with the current)
• He almost didn't make it to his famous meeting with Nixon because he almost died of pneumonia and his refusal to take medicine (traditional Chinese and modern) because he became moody and paranoid.
• Had an std (syphilis or gonorrhea) but was asymptomatic, didn't use protection while having sex with droves of peasant girls.
• Believed that all cancer (except breast cancer) was incurable and let his prime minister Zhou Enlai die by refusing his doctors to treat his bladder cancer (All party big wigs needed permission from Mao for medical treatment), tell him or his wife about the illness and when he did give permission, the cancer had already spread to other organs.

As it's mentioned before I would also recommend documentary "One Child Nation" about the legacy of the infamous one child policy (Propaganda, persecution, forced abortions, orphans finding their way West etc.)

Spoiler: Magnet

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Ignore the horse face, magnet works fine lol

And in order to keep things light here:

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Had an std (syphilis or gonorrhea) but was asymptomatic, didn't use protection while having sex with droves of peasant girls.

Syphilis would explain his cognitive decline near the end.

 

[Unsweet]

Does anyone remember that story from China about a couple who refused to sell their property to the local government, which wanted to demolish a neighbourhood and build a new main road in its stead? The money they were offered was a decent amount less than what they had paid for the house. They got their way, but the government turned their home into a roundabout instead, building the road around it.

It's the small acts of defiance like this that break the narrative that the party desires to portray (both internally and externally) of a population wholly loyal to them. I feel like too many people people buy into the narrative that the government wants to portray of itself.

On another note, I'm surprised they weren't forced by the government to sell their property after they refused the initial offers, and were able to keep it, albeit with a major drawback of the road. If that happened in Australia, the federal government is allowed to, under Section 51 of the Australian Constitution, make laws with respect to "the acquisition of property on just terms from any State or person for any purpose in respect of which the Parliament has power to make laws."

In practise, this has manifested in State governments compelling property owners to sell their property at considerably lower values so that they can embark on major (and increasingly frequently overtime) infrastructure projects.

Those are called "nail houses" and I guess they are common.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/what-are-chinese-nail-houses-2016-8%3famp

 

[Super-Chevy454]

He almost didn't make it to his famous meeting with Nixon because he almost died of pneumonia and his refusal to take medicine (traditional Chinese and modern) because he became moody and paranoid.

I wonder how China would be different had Mao died before he meet Nixon?

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

Another one:

 

[Bunny Tracks]

Another one:

You know, the conspiratard in me wants to believe that they're blowing up shit to hide evidence, but the more logical side of me says it's just the Chinese being incompetent and getting what they deserve for it.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

You know, the conspiratard in me wants to believe that they're blowing up shit to hide evidence, but the more logical side of me says it's just the Chinese being incompetent and getting what they deserve for it.

I feel the same way but if there's one more explosion of this kind a couple of days after that one, I'll be tempted to said they're competent to hide evidence, there's too much of a coincidence or is it a coincidence?

 

[Coleslaw]

Does anyone remember that story from China about a couple who refused to sell their property to the local government, which wanted to demolish a neighbourhood and build a new main road in its stead? The money they were offered was a decent amount less than what they had paid for the house. They got their way, but the government turned their home into a roundabout instead, building the road around it.

It's the small acts of defiance like this that break the narrative that the party desires to portray (both internally and externally) of a population wholly loyal to them. I feel like too many people people buy into the narrative that the government wants to portray of itself.

On another note, I'm surprised they weren't forced by the government to sell their property after they refused the initial offers, and were able to keep it, albeit with a major drawback of the road. If that happened in Australia, the federal government is allowed to, under Section 51 of the Australian Constitution, make laws with respect to "the acquisition of property on just terms from any State or person for any purpose in respect of which the Parliament has power to make laws."

In practise, this has manifested in State governments compelling property owners to sell their property at considerably lower values so that they can embark on major (and increasingly frequently overtime) infrastructure projects.

Is the Australian Constitution a good one?

 

[Pixy]

Is the Australian Constitution a good one?

When they were writing it up, they took inspiration from the Yanks and the Brits. It's all about perspective, really; there's something in it for everyone.

For the inner-authoritarians, it lets the federal government take action against "domestic violence" taking place in the states, making special laws for specific races. Nationalists get bits and bobs where MPs are barred from holding office if they are dual-citizens.

Dunno about what it has to offer to those with left-leaning views, though; freedom of speech is 'implied'.

 

[Snekposter]

Free Speech Around the World - Can You Call Your National Leader a Jew Nigger to Their Face:
US: "Yes, you can call the President a Jew Nigger to his face."
Everywhere else: "Well yes, but actually no."

 

[Tree]

Good OP, interesting read.

I will not pray for cracks in a massive dam upstream from massive population centers like Nanjing and Shanghai. The dam itself is in Hubei which has had to go through enough shit in the last twelve months.
Please remember that the majority of Chinese people are just people going about their lives and making the best of their situation just like everyone else. Not everybody in China is a CCP member or supporter.
I'm inclined to believe that whatever issues the dam has are being blown out of proportion by anti-CCP groups (who probably need their own post in this thread at some point), but if there are real issues, I will instead pray that they can be repaired without risk to life and property.

Humanitarians faggots like this are the reason The West has gone to shit. These bug people would zerg rush at the drop of a hat from Winnie the Poo. I'd rather not wait for Tyrone's dad to return with the humanitarian method of disarming a subversive authoritarian regime.

Maybe if they were busy dealing with flooding they'd have less money to pump in to confucius institutes and American universities in the current culture war. But no, if it means harming the innocent bug people, Big L here rather speak mandarin lest his social credit score drop.