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[Hux]

Not really.

Spoiler: TL;DR sperging about skinheads, punk rock, and politics

Skinhead rock was a working class English reaction to punk becoming "too commercial" that started when punk was just barely becoming a mainstream success, and white nationalist and eventually neo-Nazi skinheads arose pretty organically from that scene. Skrewdriver is a good example of this paradigm. They didn't worm their way into the scene one day and try to turn it Nazi. They started as a street punk band that wasn't particularly racist and becoming more and more white nationalist and eventually national socialist as time went on.

This parallels skinhead's evolution as a subculture as a whole. It started as a black and white working class English thing, that ironically drew roots from Caribbean as well as British culture and had reggae as its musical genre of choice. Even in the early days there were racist undercurrents to some portions of skinhead culture... but not against black people. Blacks and whites would both engage in "Paki bashing" because they disliked Pakistani immigrants for taking their jobs.

Then right around the time punk was becoming a thing, "black liberation" and pan-African nationalism also started becoming a thing, and this drove a wedge between a lot of black and white skinheads. A lot of black skinheads abandoned the scene to become kangz (to use a modern term that roughly captures what was going on and why it was so divisive), and a lot of white skinheads started replacing the more overtly "black" aspects of the subculture with alternatives, including replacing reggae with punk. This was by no means universal, and there were still quite a few black skinheads (and still are today) and white skinheads who listened to reggae, but it did produce a noticeable cultural shift and punk completely supplanted reggae as "skinhead music."

Skinhead subculture becoming more "white" led to more white racists becoming a part of it, but the media also contributed heavily to this by biased negative reporting and moral panic shitstirring. As "skinhead" became synonymous with "Neo-Nazi" in the eyes of much of the public, it unsurprisingly made white racists want to be a part of the skinhead subculture, and repelled most other people who weren't already acquainted with it. A negative feedback loop. Then you had William Luthor Pierce and his record label, which is probably about as close as you got to Nazis trying to deliberately subvert punk for their purposes, but Pierce was only exploiting something that had already sprang up without any outside influence.

Skinhead subculture and skinhead rock still aren't, and never have been an exclusively "Nazi" thing. There's the white nationalist and neo-Nazi wing, the "anti-racist" wing which has been pretty much overrun with far left Antifa types, and the "neutral" wing of people who mostly just want to listen to their music, wear their cloths, and bond over working class travails. There are also a lot of people in the "neutral" wing who are more traditionally conservative or libertarian, and a lot of those people get smeared as neo-Nazis by Antifa types, which is very easy to do because most people outside the scene only know skinheads from movies like American History X.

Early punk's affiliation with the left also tends to be exaggerated nowadays. The Ramones had right wing Johnny, and while the Sex Pistols could be considered "anti-conservative" they were general provocateurs, not any kind of left wing ideologues. Band members wore swastika shirts to offend people. And now Johnny Rotten is a Trump supporter who's calling for an end to lockdowns. You also had bands like Agnostic Front that were fairly apolitical but occasionally dipped into messages that were a bit more right leaning. If anything, punk as a genre has been subverted more into an exclusively left wing thing as it became trendy, commercialized, and "radical chic" whereas in the earlier days it was all over the map.

To also TL;DR your TL;DR, I tack on my old adage to the last bit of your last paragraph:

Punk Died When GG Allin Died And It Died Even Harder When Seth Putnam Died

 

[Anti Fun Aktion]

Theres commie black metal fans, the genre already has the anti society, anti capitalism, anti everything and it attracts certain kind of edgelords who might think Stalin and Mao were cool because they killed lots of people. Hyeronimous of "being stab by an autist and dying" fame was a notable example. Nazis are just racist communists anyway.

I remember in a written interview Euronymous of Mayhem was expressing his glee about Nicolae Ceaușescu. From reading Vargs blog and other opinions nothing of value was lost when Varg killed him. Hell I admit it was funny when Varg was grinning in court when he admitted to killing him.

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[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

I remember in a written interview Euronymous of Mayhem was expressing his glee about Nicolae Ceaușescu. From reading Vargs blog and other opinions nothing of value was lost when Varg killed him. Hell I admit it was funny when Varg was grinning in court when he admitted to killing him.

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Its funny when a lolcow stabs another lolcow. It should happen more often

 

[LTO Data Cartridge]

Its funny when a lolcow stabs another lolcow. It should happen more often

I don't understand; Varg isn't a lolcow, he's a god made flesh.

 

[Syaoran Li]

To also TL;DR your TL;DR, I tack on my old adage to the last bit of your last paragraph:

Punk Died When GG Allin Died And It Died Even Harder When Seth Putnam Died

And let's be honest, punk was never good to begin with.

I don't understand; Varg isn't a lolcow, he's a god made flesh.

He makes good music but he has a lot of fucktard views, especially after he married that autistic French girl

Seriously, Marie Cachet is the Greta Thunberg of White nationalism.

 

[Shaka Brah]

He makes good music but he has a lot of fucktard views, especially after he married that autistic French girl

Seriously, Marie Cachet is the Greta Thunberg of White nationalism.

This is an amazing comparison and extremely based. Varg's LARPy pagan lifestyle is a weird joke. Weaving your own clothes isn't gonna save the white race.

 

[Syaoran Li]

This is an amazing comparison and extremely based. Varg's LARPy pagan lifestyle is a weird joke. Weaving your own clothes isn't gonna save the white race.

Hell, I think the idea of genuine pagan polytheism coming back would be actually really interesting to see but LARP'ers and crypto-atheists like Varg and his sperg wife aren't doing anyone any favors.

 

[>tfw no Asian gf]

I don't understand; Varg isn't a lolcow, he's a god made flesh.

Isn't Varg the one who says that civilization is bad, that whites should go back to being barbarian tribes and that the Roman Empire was the worst thing that happened to Europeans because it brought civilization to far off lands like Britain and Germania? Is that Varg or am I thinking about some other guy on twitter?

 

[Shaka Brah]

Hell, I think the idea of genuine pagan polytheism coming back would be actually really interesting to see but LARP'ers and crypto-atheists like Varg and his sperg wife aren't doing anyone any favors.

Being a Christian I think all transactional religions are cringe, but it would still be nice to see people with a genuine interest in reviving traditional celebrations and regional customs from the Medieval period. To get back on topic a bit, I think Varg and Breadtubers have one thing in common, and that's that their perspective is warped by mass media.

Varg would obviously deny this and say he hates the Jewish Hollywood machine or whatever, but when you look at what he believes about Vikings or Pagans it's pretty much all taken from Hollywood anyway. Ditto Breadtubers when they talk about hating big corporations and being socialists, communists, anarchists, or whatever they think they are. They may claim to hate these things but they drink from the ideological well that Hollywood and Academia made just for them. A totally self-justifying and closed system. Nothing authentic can ever be recovered or produced by them because all the content they've ever been exposed to is synthetic.

 

[LTO Data Cartridge]

Isn't Varg the one who says that civilization is bad, that whites should go back to being barbarian tribes and that the Roman Empire was the worst thing that happened to Europeans because it brought civilization to far off lands like Britain and Germania? Is that Varg or am I thinking about some other guy on twitter?

Yeah he's a massive sperg which is why he's a god

 

[Big Brown Schlub]

A lot of Pagan celebrations are still alive in specific parts of Catholic nations, like the whole Krampus thing or the celebration of St. George in some Slavic countries being beat for beat the same as the celebration of the New Year (Slavic new year was in the Spring season), just replace Jarilo with St. George. That's just 2 I thought off the top of my head. That's why ultrasperg prots call them pagans, but who the hell cares what prots think anyways.

 

[Syaoran Li]

Isn't Varg the one who says that civilization is bad, that whites should go back to being barbarian tribes and that the Roman Empire was the worst thing that happened to Europeans because it brought civilization to far off lands like Britain and Germania? Is that Varg or am I thinking about some other guy on twitter?

That is Varg although he didn't believe that hyper-Nordicist caveman garbage until after he got involved with Marie. Prior to that when he was still a black metaller and then a prisoner producing ambient music, he agreed with the fact Southern Europeans are actually White.

Marie Cachet must've been a really good fuck or something because he didn't become a full-on turbo sperg until after he got out of prison and got involved with the literally autistic French girl.

Yeah he's a massive sperg which is why he's a god

Oddly enough, this is what Varg and Marie actually believe

A lot of Pagan celebrations are still alive in specific parts of Catholic nations, like the whole Krampus thing or the celebration of St. George in some Slavic countries being beat for beat the same as the celebration of the New Year (Slavic new year was in the Spring season), just replace Jarilo with St. George. That's just 2 I thought off the top of my head. That's why ultrasperg prots call them pagans, but who the hell cares what prots think anyways.

Traditionalist Protestants are pretty much the "Sweet Home Alabama" and "Paddle Faster, I hear banjos!" memes personified

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

Yeah he's a massive sperg which is why he's a god

imagine god materializing in the flesh just to gift this world with crappy dungeon synth

 

[LTO Data Cartridge]

imagine god materializing in the flesh just to gift this world with crappy dungeon synth

He's made some good stuff but I'd agree that his newer releases are dogshit. Deciding that guitars weren't white enough was probably the tipping point.

 

[Hal]

The serfs is not only a massive retard, but a simp as well.

https://twitter.com/theserfstv/status/1320881563526066183

Super Saiyan Serfs on Twitter: "You heard her @JoeBiden… "

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[Gun Safety]

Gotta respect the left just saying 'fuck it' and willing to do anything to secure absolute power. If Republicans were like that I might actually develop a political consciousness

 

[Shaka Brah]

Gotta respect the left just saying 'fuck it' and willing to do anything to secure absolute power. If Republicans were like that I might actually develop a political consciousness

Trump is basically that, but as an outsider he doesn't have the institutional presence to close the deal. The problem is that so many Republicans are part of the kosher sandwich and just want to help progressives on the down-low.

 

[SkaTastic]

The serfs is not only a massive retard, but a simp as well.

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You heard M'lady, Joe Biden!
I wonder how long it will be before the serfs get their own #MeToo saga.

 

[Mr Metron666]

Thought I'd bring two more lesser known breadtubers to the attention of Kiwi farms.

First up Sensible Bunny (I didn't think you could possibly concieve of a more ridiculous & at the same time, pretentious sounding name), a literal boomer who describes his journey to starting a Breadtube channel in this blog here.

https://zcomm.org/zblogs/the-breadtube-revolution-and-my-experience-of-starting-a-left-wing-youtube-channel/

As you can see, he cites ol' Xanderpig himself as being one of his major inspirations & mentions being very impressed with him (like I said, the guy's a boomer so what'd you expect) He also mentions the other big names in the community such as Hbomberguy, Shaun & Contrapoints (this was about a few days before the first of the many controverises that lowered his/her status in the Breadtube community) & even gives a shout-out to FaradaySpeaks (he also wholeheartedly buys into his "alt-right pipeline" story).
Twitter (Archive)

Next is Cyberwitchlexi. I've only watched one of this person's videos & the first impression I got of her from seeing one of her videos was "pretentious liberal brat". In the video itself, she accuses Dave Cullen/Computing Forever of supporting Holocaust Deniers because he complained about Styxnhammer666 being demonitised or whatever & shows a clip of Styx doubting the use of Zyklon B in gas chambers as proof of this. What she doesn't mention is that this vid is from years ago & he's not only changed his beliefs, but also critized the alt-right as well (she also takes one look at Dave's youtube & immediately calls his content "dangerous". What a Snowflake). Out of all the Breadtubers, she seems to be the most inactive on Youtube, having a total of 30 videos including livestreams, the last of which was 7 months ago.
Also, here's some takes from her twitter (Archive)

Speaks for itself.

Well that sure does explain a lot now doesn't it?

Also here's Chris/Suris not-so subtly showing he's developing a with us or against attitude. Considering this & the fact that he made two videos on Trump, the latter of which he goes full TDS, I believe the upcoming election is radicalizing him (that or he's really desperate to get back the fans he lost after his "ex-anti-sjw" video. I don't know why that grift didn't work out for him the same way it did for Xanderhal & FaradaySpeaks). I don't know about the rest of ya, but I think he's on the verge of becoming a full-blown lolcow.
Also, cow-crossover with Classically Abby in which he mocks her "coming out" video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUCkdm4lS2k

You know, the fact that Suris even made an angry, mocking response vid to Abby in the first place just proves her sentiments right (at least in my opinion anyway).
And lately another one. He seems to have dropped his avatar completely in this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GL4AfK7-OM

And some good ol' fashioned simping for feminism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r9r6f9UIXY&t=25s

And him covering the final debate

Let's Cover the FINAL Biden Vs Trump Debate!

The Final Debate is here, let's cover it. We'll play some games while waiting for the debate, then cover the bulk of it, then end with a gaming stream togeth...

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And while I'm at it, he's two recent Twitter handles

I don't know who's been accusing Chris of sacrificing children (that someone is probably a lolcow in their own right), but considering the fact he supports lolicon & has people draw some really weird pics of his avatar, i'm suspecting he does something significantly worse.

Remember that breadtube's grand plan is to prey on the same spergs the alt-right did so they take what they like and shape it for their needs.

The reason for Suris's avatar I supposed. I mean, it does seem popular enough for spergs of all stripes to make shittons of fanart of it.

They'd cry at the corporate tax rates and loopholes that exist in said "socialist" nordic countries. Not to mention the cultural unity and lack of racial diversity.

Well there is Sweden don't forget. They're really desperate to become a cultural hodgepodge at the expense of their own.

He keeps trying to say gamergate 2 is going to happen because the YouTube commentary community keeps attacking twitch whores like pokimane or invadervie. Which is fucking hilarious. The dudes a grade a retard but the fact his fans take him seriously is even funnier

Come on Xanderhal, everyone knows Gamergate 2 will happen over Trump tweeting "Gamergate"

Why 2? As far as I'm concerned, the first one never ended. And won't while the bitches that started it still breathe.

I thought him falling for that old Ben garrison Pol meme was hilarious but this is a whole new level.

That was honestly what gave away how stupid or possibly dishonest he was to me. That video was the first one of his I'd actually watched almost fully (up until then, I'd only just heard about him & his signature "alt-right pipeline video"). Being someone who's familiar with Ben and the troll campaign against him, I easily recognised that the picture of Ben standing next to a Hitler portrait Alex showcased as definitive proof that "bEn gArRiSoN iS a nAzI" was a photoshopped fake. Whenever he genuinely thought the pic was real or if he knew it was faked as well, but really wanted to discredit Garrison in anyway possible (I mean, we know how dishonest he is so I wouldn't put it past him). If the former is true though, then I do wonder if he's realised it yet or not.

Ironically one of the most popular clips of Sargon being spicy comes from a video where he is mocking people who want to discourage people from saying things like retard. If Xanderhal had a IQ above 90 and really was a "ex-altrighter" he'd understand the retardation of using what someone said 5 years ago as a gotcha.

I think his ex-alt right shit is a lie, from the video it just sounded like he was an edgy tard who browsed /pol/ and played minecraft while Jerking off to Lauren southern.

99.9% of these "ex-Alt Right" guys are just dudes who dabbled in a bit of /pol/-spergery and edgy meming, and I doubt these people were ever as far right as regularly listening to wingnat shit on the TRS network, or engaging with actual neoreactionary stuff. These breadtube tards who've "seen the light" and converted to leftism probably won't seriously engage with actual Marxist thought either, so this is all nothing more than socdem libs bouncing from one aesthetic to another.

Most of them are just liars looking for fame and money. That "hope not hate" guy was in a failed punk rock band, turned into a low-level local scammer, and just got on the bandwagon of this alt-right convert grift when he saw the opportunity. There's no evidence he even held conservative political views, much less alt-right ones.

For sure I only met 1 guy that was genuinely ex-alt right but he was still in favor of fascism but without the racial hatred. While most of these other guys are obviously grifters looking for that breadtube money. Xan said he makes 5-6k a month doing his dog shit daily streams. He could be lying but there is good money in grifting left these days.

"Deradicalized" people are grifters, without exception. I doubt that the ex-alt right guy @Retrodogkiller was talking about made a big deal about being "deradicalized" from the alt right, especially since being a fascist, even a non-racialist one, is still absolutely haram in any circle he could sell that story to. Everyone who was "deradicalized" was an edgy liberal or idiot normie who started hanging out in extremely left wing circles, or in the case of actual former right wingers, someone who realized that being a real dissident is hard and the money is on the faux socialism side. For the former, some of them may actually be stupid and impressionable enough to believe that their edgy jokes or occasional center-right opinion made them "alt right" thanks to their new commie buddies, but they have a social and/or financial incentive to convince themselves of that. Anyone with half a brain who claims to be "deradicalized" is a straight up bullshit artist.

That's why they all have the same canned story about the "alt right Youtube rabbit hole" and all have absolutely halal orthodox left wing beliefs, with not a "problematic" thought among them.

Anyone who is making waves on youtube talking about being deradicalized ought to be questioned. Well I acknowledge people can change views over time and evolve, most of these grifters have no principles.

The thing is a lot of them pretend being a anti-sjw is interchangeable with being alt-right and they pretend that becoming a far leftist is the acceptable moderate position to move to as a end game. Real deradicalization stories I've heard don't include shout outs to breadtube, like a guy becoming fuck buddies with a black chick and when he had a mixed kid as a result it made him reconsider things, or a chick who left after people in her circle were involved in nail bomb killings

It's like I said before, this is just a repeat of the Satanic Panic. Of cases like Mike Warnke, Michelle Smith & Laurel Rose Willson. This ain't the first time people have claimed they used to be part of a vague, evil cult for the purposes of grifting & it won't be the last either. We just gotta hope it ends the same way it did for them.

It's pretty much impossible for people to become fully un-redpilled. Sure, they may mature out of the more odious and crackpot rightwing shit like hardcore racialism, holocaust denialism, or wanting to machinegun boats full of migrants, but they absolutely won't be able to unlearn FBI crime stats or not notice when some blatantly degenerate or anti-white shit is being pushed by people whose name ends in "berg."

Or any of the blatantly stupid shit SJWs, Feminazis & their media enablers have said & done. No one would done a 360 degree turn after seeing all that unless they're stupid, insane or have an ulterior motive. Though the reverse can be true for Anti-SJWs & sane left-wingers who used to be SJWs (which is a much more believable transition). A lot of them still hold onto some of their left-wing beliefs despite being opposed to the modern woke left.

More and more these grifters are becoming what they hate.

They really just do nothing but indoctrinate young naïve social outcasts with their political takes. Its pretty apparent when you debate someone that watches someone like "PigPuncher" online since it sounds like they are reading off a script.

He who fights monsters, man. He who fights monsters (bah, who am I kidding. these people were monsters from the start. Their work has influenced a generation of SJWs & wokies).

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"Death to Free Speech?" These people are a parody of themselves.

And once again, these morons try to act self-aware & fail miserably.

so the SJWs must've thought that it was better to infiltrate black metal and destroy it from within.

My best guess is that they failed to destroy it and now they want to control it.

It's what they're best known for. Comparisons to parasites & viruses are appropriate.

A small breadtuber has made a video calling Xanderhal out for saying ‘retard’ and ‘retarded’:

I understand where they are coming from, but their battle against ableism is forever going to be an uphill one. It is not saying ‘retard’ and ‘retarded’ that they are arguing against: it is already unacceptable in polite society to disparage people for anything other than their moral qualities. Arguing against words only results in the well-known euphemism treadmill; it is not long until ‘Are you neurodivergent?’ becomes the new ‘Are you retarded?’ And so, they are arguing against neurodivergency itself being considered bad or undesirable.

A tough idea to sell. Having some kind of mental disability is a genuine debuff to a person having it and a genuine inconvenience to those interacting. There are a few such traits, and they are easy to determine by considering what people would never wish onto their children. The list is rather short: to be crippled, to be slow, and to be ugly. If we ever have designer babies, this is going to become blindingly obvious.

I do not think it is possible to prevent people from using the opposites of desirable traits as insults. They will always insinuate somebody is inept, stupid, or repulsive to berate because they genuinely believe those are bad things to be — not morally but practically. And the best argument against doing so — ‘Well, people have no control over this!’ — may only elicit pity, not endear.

If I recall correctly, he's gotten into trouble for this kind of thing before. Specifically with Essence of Thought (Can't believe he/she doesn't have a thread. From what I've heard, this particular troon is quite a lolcow him/herself) which seems to have sparked a little rivalry between the two (speaking of which, does anyone know if said rivalry has escalated or not?).
Speaking of Xanderhal, here's his latest vid. At least he seems to finally gotten rid of that annoyingly smug-looking avatar & replaced it with the more tolerable one from his social media.

We Have To Talk About The LGBT Oreos And "Woke Capitalism"

#Breadtube #Politics #LGBTOreos Be sure to join the NEW fan discord and follow my Twitch and Twitter through the link down below! Also Be sure to Check out m...

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I see shaun is still pushing his "trump is comparatively not that bad" narrative in order to remain anti-biden, does the breadtube sphere have nothing to say about this fascist enabler!?

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Wait? Shaun doesn't like Sleepy Joe? And why hasn't Jen's revelations about him gotten him canned yet?

 

[Nykysnottrans]

Next is Cyberwitchlexi. I've only watched one of this person's videos & the first impression I got of her from seeing one of her videos was "pretentious liberal brat". In the video itself, she accuses Dave Cullen/Computing Forever of supporting Holocaust Deniers because he complained about Styxnhammer666 being demonitised or whatever & shows a clip of Styx doubting the use of Zyklon B in gas chambers as proof of this. What she doesn't mention is that this vid is from years ago & he's not only changed his beliefs, but also critized the alt-right as well (she also takes one look at Dave's youtube & immediately calls his content "dangerous". What a Snowflake). Out of all the Breadtubers, she seems to be the most inactive on Youtube, having a total of 30 videos including livestreams, the last of which was 7 months ago.

Cyberwitchlexi is an associate of t-porn actor Ella Hollywood, so that explains why the last video was from 7 months ago, too busy fapping to Ella to bother making videos. Cyberwitchlexi also attacked libertarian transwoman Jadis Argiope for insisting that transwomen should disclose that they are trans to potential sex partners. That's because Cyberwitchlexi assumes that a cis man can't tell the difference between an artificial fuckhole and a real vagina.

"The sex wasnt logistically amazing as I could never get all the way inside of her. It was mildly frustrating but whatever, I wasnt with her for the sex and there are many other ways to have sex besides penis in vagina. We satisfied eachother but she never let me go down on her. I love to give oral to girls because I can feel how wet it gets them and I find it the easiest way to make a girl orgasm. I was disappointed that she wasnt into that, but again whatever that's no deal breaker for me. I just wanted to make her cum. We fell out one day because I asked her if she faked orgasms with me. I told her she doesnt need to do that and I'll just stop whenever she asks me to stop. She denied ever faking and told me I always made her cum, but I felt there was no evidence of her cumming. No contractions or anything like that. I asked why it always had to be dark and under the sheets, she told me I was making her uncomfortable so I shut up and avoided mentioning it again."

"I felt there was no evidence of her cumming. No contractions or anything like that."

"Secondly was when I touched her down there it felt strange. Sorta rubbery and not very wet on the inside, and it was quite open like almost gaping. I get that vaginas come in all shapes and sizes and I dont have a problem with vagina diversity, but there was something 'off' about it which i couldnt pinpoint. She never got wet like any other girl I'd been with, even though she said she was turned on and ready, it never felt moist and she always had to use lube."

"She told me days after we split that she had colon inside her, that she could barely feel sex but the gender euphoria alone could make her cum"

"I'm straight. I never wanted to fuck a man and I'm not calling her a man but she certainly isnt a normal women. I looked past her differences because I was in love so sex was no biggy. I thought I'd found my queen but it's all been thrown back in my face. I couldnt be more ashamed if I tried and I guess I'm writing this as a warning. Ask for childhood pictures or something, dont be like me, dont intoxicate yourself to the point of not being able to tell the difference between a real vagina and a man made one. I'll never live down the fact that I've fucked a literal penis."

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/reddits-trans-community.33028/post-5184143

Men can absolutely tell the difference and Cyberwitchlexi is completely delusional.