Diseased Open Source Software Community - it's about ethics in Code of Conducts

[Lord of the Large Pants]

Not just the tech community. Anywhere these BPD-addled nits gain a foothold will, sooner or later, become a never-ending stream of the same jargon. The reason this behaviour is tolerated is the same reason an abuse victim stays with their abuser.

Because they'll destroy your fucking life if you question them?

 

[Eternal Gopnik]

What the fuck, Debian.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6K8K9XgmlA

Here's the freak's github avatar, because of course:

And here's his blog. Literally the top fucking post talks about how he's going through a "second puberty" as a bald, 46 year old man - plus the usual sperging about how political correctness totally isn't censorship, complete with the tired xkcd reference.

https://rhonda.deb.at/blog/

 

[Dr. Sexbot]

What the fuck, Debian.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6K8K9XgmlA

Who knew horses could code?

 

[ditto]

Level of technical experience: Brianna Wu.

 

[Jolyne THICCujoh]

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Who knew horses could code?

> Implying that they code at all

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

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Holy SHIT

This guy is getting RAPED by a CoC and the entire time he's talking about how great CoCraping is. Like the complete LACK of insight - wow

 

[Dante Alighieri]

This guy is getting RAPED by a CoC and the entire time he's talking about how great CoCraping is. Like the complete LACK of insight - wow

I guess he's getting what he fucking deserves.

 

[419]

StackExchange has been continuing to bleed out the rest of its old guard since the Monica Cellio incident over a year ago. It was announced yesterday that Tim Post, one of SE's last old Community Managers if not the last, no longer works for the company. (a)

Funny detail about this is that the employee posting it was the same person who made this crap legalese update on the Monica situation which, to date, is the most downvoted question ever posted on Meta SE.

 

[discombobulate]

StackExchange has been continuing to bleed out the rest of its old guard since the Monica Cellio incident over a year ago. It was announced yesterday that Tim Post, one of SE's last old Community Managers if not the last, no longer works for the company. (a)

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Funny detail about this is that the employee posting it was the same person who made this crap legalese update on the Monica situation which, to date, is the most downvoted question ever posted on Meta SE.

Chipps seems to be, for some reason, the person whose job it is to do things like this. She is the "Director of Community/Director of Public Q&A," whatever that means. After the series of fuck-ups I can't understand why she still is. I'm unsure in the first place why she was ever hired outside of the diversity points: her first venture, "Girls Develop It," has crashed and burned over accusations of racism. It's all vague, but it seems to stem from an angry black lady being upset somebody said that the angry black lady had had a "strong negative reaction." [question: is there an easy way to archive the original page when it's deleted but was already archived by the Internet Archive?] Her second venture, Jewelbots, seems to be okay but also doesn't seem important enough to warrant being the face of SE to its own board.

There's always a stupid CoC with these dying woke orgs. They differentiate between "disabilities, mental illness, [and] neurotype," as well as "physical appearance [and] body size."

 

[Safir]

There's always a stupid CoC with these dying woke orgs. They differentiate between "disabilities, mental illness, [and] neurotype," as well as "physical appearance [and] body size."

And as always, sex is not on the list.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

And as always, sex is not on the list.

I'm pretty sure none of these people have sex.

 

[Judge Dredd]

Not open source, but we might have a conclusion to the Godot Discord drama.

The TL:DR so far is that Godot the engine and Godot the woke Discord jannies are largely separated. Getting only a few minor changes into the engine ("slave" is now "puppet") and the documentation. The revolt started when a mod used the engine announcements channel to promote their strawpoll asking if games are sexist or really sexist. The mods started going on power trips.

Over the last six months a new, unofficial discord server has popped up. I don't know if it's all refugees from the original server, but it's been slowly gaining traction.

Meanwhile, the "official" server has locked itself down with a lengthy set of rules. Usual stuff. There are two rules marked as insta-ban.

• Don't attack minorities or mock people's orientation/gender or political affiliation.
• Don't contact users for your game/survey/discord channel. (This rule is mentioned twice.)

I wonder why that is.

 

[Jaimas]

Not just the tech community. Anywhere these BPD-addled nits gain a foothold will, sooner or later, become a never-ending stream of the same jargon. The reason this behaviour is tolerated is the same reason an abuse victim stays with their abuser.

At the heart of every single one of these infestations is one thirsty cuck that gave in too much.

 

[clownworld]

Did anyone do a rundown of GitHub firing a “Jewish” employee for calling Jan 6 capital hill protestors “nazis” on company slack? And then reverse the firing to then go on and fire the head of hr?

Obviously that’s the tip of the iceberg and you don’t just get fired for that. Curious who the person is and what other obvious bpd symptoms they have.

 

[Least Concern]

I hadn’t heard about that. Here’s an article. I agree there’s probably more to it. Maybe the employee had a history of posting political/inflammatory stuff.

 

[keyboard-warrior]

The TLR so far is that Godot the engine and Godot the woke Discord jannies are largely separated. Getting only a few minor changes into the engine ("slave" is now "puppet") and the documentation. The revolt started when a mod used the engine announcements channel to promote their strawpoll asking if games are sexist or really sexist. The mods started going on power trips.

Sad to see Godot infected at last. It will most definitely slow down future development, because "getting things done" seems to be a foreign concept for woke devs.

Is it really that hard to follow one simple rule, that is, "don't be an asshole"? Projects with overly complex and long rulesets are a big red flag and yield communities you better avoid to preserve mental sanity.

 

[AnOminous]

Is it really that hard to follow one simple rule, that is, "don't be an asshole"? Projects with overly complex and long rulesets are a big red flag and yield communities you better avoid to preserve mental sanity.

I can see actually competent devs now refusing to use any of the current forms of open source license and demanding a new kind that allow you to pull out and remove your code from a project that goes full retard. This sounds like something Microsoft would love, devs refusing to have anything to do with open source, now taken over by bluehairs instead of the neckbeards who should own it.

 

[Shaka Brah]

I can see actually competent devs now refusing to use any of the current forms of open source license and demanding a new kind that allow you to pull out and remove your code from a project that goes full retard. This sounds like something Microsoft would love, devs refusing to have anything to do with open source, now taken over by bluehairs instead of the neckbeards who should own it.

IIRC there were some docs released a fair bit ago that implied a direct connection of Microsoft encouraging radicals and freaks to join FOSS with grants knowing they would fuck it up so they could lord over the ashes. It's the MO of woke capital to do things like that, though I'm always a bit skeptical of claims that weirdos are literal infiltrators. More like useful idiots who get enabled for profit.

 

[cjöcker]

I can see actually competent devs now refusing to use any of the current forms of open source license and demanding a new kind that allow you to pull out and remove your code from a project that goes full retard. This sounds like something Microsoft would love, devs refusing to have anything to do with open source, now taken over by bluehairs instead of the neckbeards who should own it.

I pretty much discard any license which isn't GPL compatible.

 

[Tismguide]

I can see actually competent devs now refusing to use any of the current forms of open source license and demanding a new kind that allow you to pull out and remove your code from a project that goes full retard. This sounds like something Microsoft would love, devs refusing to have anything to do with open source, now taken over by bluehairs instead of the neckbeards who should own it.

IIRC there were some docs released a fair bit ago that implied a direct connection of Microsoft encouraging radicals and freaks to join FOSS with grants knowing they would fuck it up so they could lord over the ashes. It's the MO of woke capital to do things like that, though I'm always a bit skeptical of claims that weirdos are literal infiltrators. More like useful idiots who get enabled for profit.

Shaka's closer to the mark -- I won't claim an actual conspiracy or anything but the purplehairs and big tech have mostly aligned interests.

Spoiler: Effortpost

The days of Microsoft wanting to kill open source are over. They really are. Microsoft has changed, and all of big tech has embraced open source not as competition, but as a more efficient way to build the shared building blocks that they all need and don't provide a competitive advantage. Big tech wants to control open source for a few reasons, but they're fine all doing it together:

• Technical: Influence design to serve their needs
• License: Ensure the licenses are favorable to them. Copyleft is a threat, as are jokes like the Antifa license, as well as vague or legally dubious licenses like the WTFPL or even the public domain (in jurisdictions that don't recognize it).
• Community: Big tech employs many coders to work on open source projects, which are therefore an extension of the workplace. The main drive behind codes of conduct is to extend corporate HR to open source to keep the company from getting sued for creating a hostile workplace. Coraline may be a sped but the Contributor Covenant, for its flaws, isn't really more pozzed than your typical HR dept.

Attracting competent devs isn't really that important of a goal because they're willing to pay, and there is plenty of overlap between technically decent coders and terminally woke anyway. The companies want top down control, which is where the wokies come in. They provide a shield against criticism of tech's "diversity crisis", troons help a ton with gender quotas, and they can be used as a weapon to silence (most), bring to heel (Linus Torvalds), or expel outright (Richard Stallman) individuals who are inconvenient for any reason.

"Diversity" also provides a fantastic excuse to stuff committees, advisory boards, etc with corporate servants. This lets them control the direction of web standards, organizations that might otherwise criticize their products on grounds of privacy, addictiveness, or anything else, and steer that criticism instead in directions they find less threatening (censoring the right, diversity, globohomo in general, etc). Any attempt to point this out, criticize it, or promote other candidates can be easily attacked using woke tactics.

The best part is they don't even need a conspiracy for any of this, they just put the right people in the right places and the right things tend to happen, so long as they keep them on the payroll. The takeover of the FSF and Mozilla are good examples of this. I don't believe ESR's grifting about there being a giant conspiracy against Torvalds or whoever, that sounds like work, and like something that could *maybe* look like antitrust to a paranoid corporate attorney.

So increasingly we are seeing a bifurcation of open source: projects that are by corporate for corporate, and community projects that generally have little to no market value. The latter can be taken over as the former if they ever create anything of value, but until/unless they are, they will have a great deal of freedom to do whatever they want according to the beliefs of the devs, whether it's Godot going woke or GIMP telling them to fuck off. Neither one has much direct value to Big Tech, nor is especially serious competition in need of crushing.

What I'm really curious to see going forward is whether big tech can control their golem.

The Alphabet Workers Union is (as yet) not a credible threat to unionize, and is primarily a protected perch to criticize the company, and who it does business with. Alphabet would be happy to be forced to ban the alt right or whatever, as with Trump gone there will no longer be any consequences (such as mean tweets and situation monitoring) for doing so and they don't make them money, but when they go after actually profitable shit like oil and gas, government contracts (possibly sjw-kosher now that Biden is in office), or actually try to unionize for realsies, Big Tech isn't going to be ok with that.

When it's just one or two troublemakers, you can generally silence them without too much blowback (jamiebuilds iirc, the Antifa license guy and Palantir).

I suspect Big Tech wins or loses with the general success of wokeshit to suppress and subvert real organizing on material issues, like OWS. Plenty of wokies are happy to jerk off about diversity and consume Star Wars and programmer socks while ignoring how their technology is used to genocide Uyghurs, bomb brown kids, build a police state, or even put kids in cages so long as their preferred media outlets aren't spewing agitprop against it at the moment.

But not everyone is so easily controlled, and golems tend to get out of hand, and I've seen increasingly people on the left waking up to the fact that they're actually playing tug of war next to a capitalist in a monacle, and the influence they thought they had only extends so far as what their corporate masters desire. They get a double standard, but there is still a line that has consequences if they step over it. If you're conservative, you've had a long time to cope with just how little political power you actually have in any area of your life, but it's much easier for wokies to believe their companies were the good guys and they were changing the world for the better. Those that cross that line learn otherwise, and have to confront all this at once.