2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[RedStorm]

Oh shit, I forgot you even live in NYC. I heard it might be Ground Zero for potential chimpouts after 8/4/2020. Then again, you live in Queens, correct? I used to work in Manhattan a long time ago, but I don't think I really went to Queens very often, so I don't know what the current demographics are like. I remember a lot of Asians and Mexicans from what I saw, but those two groups aren't the kinds to go full Planet of the Apes in the event of riots.

currently I'm a college student taking multiple physics and math classes, none of my classmates so far have told me they support Biden. One is this Orthodox Christian Russian American kid who considers himself a moderate but is anti-BLM and seems generally right leaning (I guess 'moderate' is still the right word). Voting for Trump for his first ever vote.

Another is a hispanic (or filipino, not sure) who is with Trump. He talked about taking this one class called 'political controversies' where the professor unfairly picked on him for his beliefs. None of our physics professors talk about politics though.

And there is this one girl who I thought could be for Biden given certain things about her(for privacy's sake I won't elaborate on this much - basically you'd normally assume she's a feminist lefty based on certain surface level things), but is leaning third party BUT also seems like she could be swayed to Trump based on certain things (won't elaborate much, one of the factors is anti-lockdown sentiment).

Keep in mind these are physics majors though, not a representative sample of Queens by any means.

Oh and I've had multiple people who consider themselves people who don't know much about politics who have asked me about my opinions because some of them will be voting for the first time (mainly young zoomers aged 18-21 who you'd think should be anti-drumpf because it's NYC). The fact that they aren't already TDS patients (some of them even have demeanors that would make you think they're left leaning) says something to me.

All in all, even Trump's deep blue hometown that hasn't gone Republican since Nixon's landslide in 1972 isn't this 100% "we hate drumpf because we know him the best" place as the libs might want to claim.

- Miami-Dade County's Hispanics are dominated by Cubans that were a solid red block for Republicans, then gradually turned purple and then turned back red for Trump due to new immigrants. These new immigrants also contain Venezuelans and Columbians who are also solid red. But most other Hispanics groups are still mostly Democratic voters, which is why Hillsborough is becoming bluer. Puerto Ricans are one of the most reliable Democratic voting Hispanic voting block and is why the Tampa Bay area is no longer a bellwether. Given that Florida has a low Mexican population, it's not indicative of how Hispanics will vote in Texas and Western US states. Not to say that a shift couldn't be happening now among Mexicans that are not immigrants (Barnes brought up in the Arizona's "What Are The Odds" that Independent working-class Mexicans might be voting Trump), but formulating a reliable or even purple voting block for Republicans takes time, something they won't have if Trump loses. Which is one of the reasons why Trump needs to win, we can't expect anyone else to reform the GOP into a populist party like he is trying to do.

- Duval and Orange County widen out the Biden advantage by 4.6% and 4.28% respectively in early voting. I get that most of it was mail in ballot (not by much though), but that should indicate Duval is flipping and Orange County will become bluer. I know this website says a 5% Biden advantage or less is excellent for Trump, but I can't help but feel that's a narrative spin that Trump will win Florida easily rather than it be a competitive race where he ends up winning 2-3%.

- Are we sure about that? Pasco has barely improved when it comes to advantage although the others have improved by a few percentage. We need to see turnout on Election Day first before we jump to the conclusion that Trump's performance in Pasco, Hernando, Sumter, and Citrus means he will do better in the Midwest (although it is true, we should watch for them to see how they vote). The only reason why I made such a big deal analyzing the Miami-Dade county was because 1) it was to find the closest thing to proof of Trump winning over more Hispanic votes in general (especially Cubans) and 2) shows that even you assume a beyond Obama-level enthusiasm turnout for Biden in the county by giving him 95% of the Democratic vote, 15% of the Republican vote, and 57.5% of Independents that he has lost too many votes there to make it up in the rest of the state. Doing a similar breakdown in other counties with similar rigging against Trump likely would not show as much.

I'm talking about extrapolating from results on election night when votes actually start getting counted, not the results we have right now where all we know is party affiliation and the counties.

There's the possibility that Trump is doing better with Dems/Indies in FL than expected and therefore even does better in places like Duval/Orange (and all other counties as well) once we actually start counting votes on election night.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

If any of them win we lose, if Trump wins the internet will die and if Biden wins we will mask worshipers. I'm going to stay home and dress up like a clown.

I believed that in 2016, I didn't think that Trump would be any different than Hillary and he has proven he really isn't.

What happens with 230 is up in the air in my opinion, I can understand the Doomsaying but I think there is something that does need to change somewhere and given his history in the past 4 years I trust that Trump is at least going to attempt to find a sensible solution.

 

[Someone Awful]

I'm talking about extrapolating from results on election night when votes actually start getting counted, not the results we have right now where all we know is party affiliation and the counties.

There's the possibility that Trump is doing better with Dems/Indies in FL than expected and therefore even does better in places like Duval/Orange (and all other counties as well) once we actually start counting votes on election night.

Ah, I see. In that case, definitely something to keep an eye out for.

Actually, that brings me to something. On Election Night when it comes to states that will be called on that day, why don't we have one of us keep track of how counties in a state votes and keep people updated as the night goes on? One of us could bring updates on Florida, one on Arizona, one in Wisconsin, etc.

 

[XYZpdq]

. Puerto Ricans are one of the most reliable Democratic voting Hispanic voting block and is why the Tampa Bay area is no longer a bellwether.

FL Ricans aren't a solid red but they're not as solid a blue as they used to be after the dems on the island shitted up things after the hurricane.

 

[CrippleThreat]

currently I'm a college student taking multiple physics and math classes, none of my classmates so far have told me they support Biden. One is this Orthodox Christian Russian American kid who considers himself a moderate but is anti-BLM and seems generally right leaning (I guess 'moderate' is still the right word). Voting for Trump for his first ever vote.

Another is a hispanic (or filipino, not sure) who is with Trump. He talked about taking this one class called 'political controversies' where the professor unfairly picked on him for his beliefs. None of our physics professors talk about politics though.

And there is this one girl who I thought could be for Biden given certain things about her(for privacy's sake I won't elaborate on this much - basically you'd normally assume she's a feminist lefty based on certain surface level things), but is leaning third party BUT also seems like she could be swayed to Trump based on certain things (won't elaborate much, one of the factors is anti-lockdown sentiment).

Keep in mind these are physics majors though, not a representative sample of Queens by any means.

Oh and I've had multiple people who consider themselves people who don't know much about politics who have asked me about my opinions because some of them will be voting for the first time (mainly young zoomers aged 18-21 who you'd think should be anti-drumpf because it's NYC). The fact that they aren't already TDS patients (some of them even have demeanors that would make you think they're left leaning) says something to me.

All in all, even Trump's deep blue hometown that hasn't gone Republican since Nixon's landslide in 1972 isn't this 100% "we hate drumpf because we know him the best" place as the libs might want to claim.

Most of this somewhat assures me that some Gen Z kids in colleges/or of age to vote are siding with Trump because of redpills, in the lowest case, which unlimited internet during quarantine is helping to blossom. And in higher case, there is the Tim Pool argument of sheer rebellion; the parents who are Vote Blue No Matter Who types might just be enough to sway their kids in the opposite direction (or making DINOs, like myself).

 

[RedStorm]

Ah, I see. In that case, definitely something to keep an eye out for.

Actually, that brings me to something. On Election Night when it comes to states that will be called on that day, why don't we have one of us keep track of how counties in a state votes and keep people updated as the night goes on? One of us could bring updates on Florida, one on Arizona, one in Wisconsin, etc.

There will be multiple YouTube streams going on that I recommend everyone here check out

-Red Eagle Politics (this guy is an internet friend of mine) and I will be on his live stream for some time on election night (or maybe for most of it or all of it). I believe he'll also be doing it with some other youtubers as well. We've been election autists for the past couple years so we're very attuned to the specific details to look out for.

-Richard Baris should be doing a live stream with Robert Barnes. Probably your best stream, I recommend alternating between this and Red Eagle.

-Styx should be doing a stream but he's lazier this year when it comes to political analysis compared to 2016 even if he's probably still going to be more correct than the MSM (take a look at his thread, we've discussed this in some depth over there)

oh and there's the possibility I'll be updating this thread as the night goes on. I'd rather be here than certain other places (e.g. /pol/, le reddit, and some other forums I used to browse but won't mention).

 

[Syaoran Li]

I'm wondering what will happen to the Great Reset nonsense the WEF are pushing (as well as others being thrown into a frenzy over it as of late) if Trump wins the election.

If Trump wins, I think the Great Reset will go back to being a mostly empty pipe dream used to virtue signal although some of the more woke Northern European countries like Germany and Sweden will probably get on board with it and same goes for Oceania as well.

Other than that, it'll be defanged at least for another four years or maybe even later if we don't get another big pandemic. I think COVID-19 only was able to be "the big one" because it was more transmissible than bird flu but was a novel virus that was more potent than swine flu.

Even then, I suspect the virus has mutated and is starting to weaken in its lethality as viruses often tend to do.

 

[dry roasted]

I wonder what Bidens rallies would be like without the coof. I dont think Trumps rallies would actually be that different but I wonder if Biden would get a larger draw.

I've wondered about this too. It's definitely an excuse I've seen Dems give for the apparent lack of support. But there's a lack of enthusiasm wrt endorsements as well. I remember so many celebrities gushing over Hillary, not just at her events but they participated in ads and cheered her on all over social media. It seemed like every day for the couple of months leading up to the election, another celebrity publicly and very officially announced their support, like they were a fucking newspaper. With Biden, hardly any big names supported him during the primaries, then the support after his nomination was half-hearted and resigned. I'm skeptical how much influence they have, but the relative silence for Biden could be a reflection of the population in general. BUT it doesn't really matter how enthusiastic a vote is, if they can be bothered to fill in a ballot (very convenient they're showing up at people's homes), they count just the same as the Trump Truck driving, MAGA ralliers'.

Considering how worked up so many people seem to be about Trump though, and the general unrest in the country, I'm surprised there aren't more counter-ralliers or even antifa around Trump events. With how often he and his supporters are called fascists, you'd think that antifa would be more active around his rallies. I remember right after his election, people were showing up to boo him or fly those fat baby balloons mocking him. There hasn't been much of that in a long time.

On a side note, I can't get over how unprofessional Biden's rallies look. Even if they're small, you'd think they'd be official looking, it should even be easier to organize if it's such a tiny area. They look so hastily throw together and sort of depressing. I can't believe this is the campaign of a serious presidential candidate.

 

[Rafal Gan Ganowicz]

The VERY first thing Pres Trump needs to do after his win is set upinternment a la the Brits in Ulster. Lock these scum away.
Midnight raids, landsharks and watercannon, the whole show.
Purge the left.
Hopefully even some version o the FreiKorps or Black and Tans.
Enough is enough.

 

[the ketchup man]

The VERY first thing Pres Trump needs to do after his win is set upinternment a la the Brits in Ulster. Lock these scum away.
Midnight raids, landsharks and watercannon, the whole show.
Purge the left.
Hopefully even some version o the FreiKorps or Black and Tans.
Enough is enough.

That would prove the Chanty Binxes of the world correct, though.

 

[Rafal Gan Ganowicz]

That would prove the Chanty Binxes of the world correct, though.

so what? they can be smug all they want in gitmo or the grave

 

[Doctor of Autism]

The VERY first thing Pres Trump needs to do after his win is set upinternment a la the Brits in Ulster. Lock these scum away.
Midnight raids, landsharks and watercannon, the whole show.
Purge the left.
Hopefully even some version o the FreiKorps or Black and Tans.
Enough is enough.

If Trump purges the left it would just fuel their victim complexes and give them incentive to the same to those they don’t like when they gain power.

 

[Kulee Baba]

I've wondered about this too. It's definitely an excuse I've seen Dems give for the apparent lack of support. But there's a lack of enthusiasm wrt endorsements as well. I remember so many celebrities gushing over Hillary, not just at her events but they participated in ads and cheered her on all over social media. It seemed like every day for the couple of months leading up to the election, another celebrity publicly and very officially announced their support, like they were a fucking newspaper. With Biden, hardly any big names supported him during the primaries, then the support after his nomination was half-hearted and resigned. I'm skeptical how much influence they have, but the relative silence for Biden could be a reflection of the population in general. BUT it doesn't really matter how enthusiastic a vote is, if they can be bothered to fill in a ballot (very convenient they're showing up at people's homes), they count just the same as the Trump Truck driving, MAGA ralliers'.

Considering how worked up so many people seem to be about Trump though, and the general unrest in the country, I'm surprised there aren't more counter-ralliers or even antifa around Trump events. With how often he and his supporters are called fascists, you'd think that antifa would be more active around his rallies. I remember right after his election, people were showing up to boo him or fly those fat baby balloons mocking him. There hasn't been much of that in a long time.

On a side note, I can't get over how unprofessional Biden's rallies look. Even if they're small, you'd think they'd be official looking, it should even be easier to organize if it's such a tiny area. They look so hastily throw together and sort of depressing. I can't believe this is the campaign of a serious presidential candidate.

I was absolutely shocked that Trump rallies aren't followed up with BLM Counter-Protests, we all know CNN would love to play clips of Trump supporters screaming at and fighting with Black People. Maybe Secret Service plays a part and doesn't let them get anywhere near the events?

I think it's genius how much of a multimedia event Trump rallies are now. Trump gets to take a little break from talking and they play Biden making an ass out of himself on the Jumbotrons. I imagine that these mass rallies do attract a not so insignicant number of undecided voters, at the end quite a few of them probably do come to the conclusion that Biden is just bad for blue collar voters.

It's weird that Biden's rallies aren't doing the same thing. If I were the managing director of Biden's campaign I would play Trump's biggest gaffe nonstop, when he said he believes Vladimir Putin's word over that of America's CIA Glow-In-The-Dark niggers.

 

[the ketchup man]

so what? they can be smug all they want in gitmo or the grave

SJWs do enough damage to themselves simply by existing. If you censor them, lock them away and the sorts, you legitimize their retarded cause in the eyes of the average Joe. “When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say.” etc. etc. Let them destroy themselves, Gen Z has already broken the trend of increasingly liberal generations, let the trend continue without harsh measures.

 

[Disc]

I've wondered about this too. It's definitely an excuse I've seen Dems give for the apparent lack of support. But there's a lack of enthusiasm wrt endorsements as well. I remember so many celebrities gushing over Hillary, not just at her events but they participated in ads and cheered her on all over social media. It seemed like every day for the couple of months leading up to the election, another celebrity publicly and very officially announced their support, like they were a fucking newspaper. With Biden, hardly any big names supported him during the primaries, then the support after his nomination was half-hearted and resigned. I'm skeptical how much influence they have, but the relative silence for Biden could be a reflection of the population in general. BUT it doesn't really matter how enthusiastic a vote is, if they can be bothered to fill in a ballot (very convenient they're showing up at people's homes), they count just the same as the Trump Truck driving, MAGA ralliers'.

Considering how worked up so many people seem to be about Trump though, and the general unrest in the country, I'm surprised there aren't more counter-ralliers or even antifa around Trump events. With how often he and his supporters are called fascists, you'd think that antifa would be more active around his rallies. I remember right after his election, people were showing up to boo him or fly those fat baby balloons mocking him. There hasn't been much of that in a long time.

On a side note, I can't get over how unprofessional Biden's rallies look. Even if they're small, you'd think they'd be official looking, it should even be easier to organize if it's such a tiny area. They look so hastily throw together and sort of depressing. I can't believe this is the campaign of a serious presidential candidate.

Like people said, I don't find simply being low size a sign Biden doesn't have support.

Combine that with how big their non-biden rallies and marches are, though...

 

[Intelligent Calcium]

The VERY first thing Pres Trump needs to do after his win is set upinternment a la the Brits in Ulster. Lock these scum away.
Midnight raids, landsharks and watercannon, the whole show.
Purge the left.
Hopefully even some version o the FreiKorps or Black and Tans.
Enough is enough.

This is your brain on A&H.

 

[Ita Mori]

Damn Pennsylvania.
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In an alternate timeline where Joe pulls in Donald's crowds and vice-versa, you gotta wonder how CNN and MSNBC are mocking Trump for a measly dozen people per event as opposed to defending Joe's numbers.

 

[los pepes]

SJWs do enough damage to themselves simply by existing. If you censor them, lock them away and the sorts, you legitimize their retarded cause in the eyes of the average Joe. “When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say.” etc. etc. Let them destroy themselves, Gen Z has already broken the trend of increasingly liberal generations, let the trend continue without harsh measures.

That only applies if you are soft and partially purge them, allowing the survivors to reconstitute and infest stronger than ever. It's been the downfall of most rightwing dictatorships. They halfass purge, the country begins to improve, but they get complacent, their merciful nature lets most leftists survive, and they inevitably reinfect the institutions and usually end up seizing more power than they had originally because of their rally cry of victimhood.

Rightwing regimes purge in the low tens of thousands and usually last a decade at most before they are toppled. Leftwing regimes purge in the hundreds of thousands at the absolute low end and go from there. As a result they last decades no matter how inept they universally are at running their countries.

 

[Inventor of the Telephone]

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I know what I'm feeling!

Just joking - until Tuesday I mostly use this thread as target practice at Maradonita's reaction score.

Kanye/Jeb 2024 intensifies.

Trump can't compete with this high energy
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That's a sad presentation. They should have covered the front of those tables with banners. Utterly cheap and lazy! How humiliating for Obama.

The reason he's going to win is because more people will vote for him in the electoral college.

That what Trumpists get for skipping college and going right to work for Uncle Earl's septic tank detailing shop.

Going to see Trump tomorrow since he is in my neck of the woods. Should be fun.

Tell Trump I said 'hi'.

If Trump wins, I think the Great Reset will go back to being a mostly empty pipe dream used to virtue signal although some of the more woke Northern European countries like Germany and Sweden will probably get on board with it and same goes for Oceania as well.

Other than that, it'll be defanged at least for another four years or maybe even later if we don't get another big pandemic. I think COVID-19 only was able to be "the big one" because it was more transmissible than bird flu but was a novel virus that was more potent than swine flu.

Even then, I suspect the virus has mutated and is starting to weaken in its lethality as viruses often tend to do.

Isn't the UK going full lockdown soon? I think too many are signed-on for them to give up now. They failed to make it stick with Swine Flu, but this time it has gelled well. No way they stand down when they're so close to a total win.

Maybe Secret Service plays a part and doesn't let them get anywhere near the events?

There was that White House event a while back where BLM/antifa people attacked Rand Paul and his wife - among many others - as they were leaving. It was one of the most disgusting displays I've seen during these riots. The rioters behaved like they were the low-levels thugs under a comic book villain from a hollywood superhero movie. You almost expected Jim Carrey costumed as the Riddler to prance up and start thrusting his humping crotch at them, while laughing maniacally. It was insane.

 

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Isn't the UK going full lockdown soon? I think too many are signed-on for them to give up now. They failed to make it stick with Swine Flu, but this time it has gelled well. No way they stand down when they're so close to a total win.

Canada too. And Computing Forever just had a supposed link about their plans: