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11/02/2020 - NASSER RABADI - DRAMA & COMICS LIVE CHAT!
This stream starts innocently enough. A solitary Nasser, having some free time, figures he'll get his friend Skinny/Matthew Vealey's crowdfund Otis Stein #1 up from to 88 backers to the optimistic goal of 100. Otis Stein looks like a credible work, an underground horror comic that has a borderline expressionist art style. The book is funded, the art is complete, the prices are competitively low ($6 minimum) and the crowdfund abstract looks very well put together (since there's no InDemand there's no way you can order should you be interested). It should be very appealing to possible backers, but Skinny's promotional tours on Fan Advocacy Network, Tim Lim', Comic Book Hut and Lorenzo Sleezestacks' programs have left him at around 88 backers all the same. Nasser thinks something is not right about this, and since he considers Skinny a friend, is holding this impromptu stream to get his crowdfund.
At the start, the stream is almost totally vacant, recreational troll "Mecha McCheese" alone in the chat and more interested in shittalking Donal and Nick Rekeita than the book, which Nasser quickly joins in on. It might have gone like this indefinitely had Skinny himself not joined the show, to sell his comic and express his dissatisfaction with Comicsgate's failures in the past. In factt, hed be happy to get it over that 100 backer count
At around an hour and five minutes in, Nasser is ruminating over "some weirdo named Testefy" who was haranguing to go on his show to "make it less boring". Skinny, playing coy, knows a bit more about all this and starts filling Nasser in about wristband and coozie lore and it was on this very subject that two unexpected guests appear in the chat.
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The topic of unwanted guests is quickly tossed aside as Nasser rolls out the welcome mat for Jon Malin and Frog, much to Skinny's displeasure. In the interest of ending drama, Nasser would be delighted if Frog and Jon Malin joined his show. Normally Frog likes to sneak in to Nasser streams to taunt and torment him outside the watchful eyes of Comicsgate at large, not unlike many other secret proclivities Frog is accused of but he, out of what I'm guessing is friendship and generosity, has decided to include Malin in on this rich source of salt and nectar.
At around 1:21:00, Malin is the first to join, immediately changing the subject to his victory over Dan Fraga in a recent drawing contest - the judges siding with Malin 5/6 (the viewers voted Dan Fraga the winner at ~96/152), Skinny's campaign is put on the backburner as Malin celebrates by complaining about the biased judges, the dismissive fans and upstart new talent that prevent him from receiving his due. Which as the contest winner, he received anyway, but that's merely a technicality. It's when Malin discusses his commissioning of a championship belt to wear over his shoulder while livestreaming that Frog joins to lend Malin moral support. He also introduces himself to Skinny and asks the audience if they, as as group, can get Otis Stein #1 up to 100 backers?
Now, unbeknownst to Frog or Malin, they have met Skinny in the past, here inquiring about pizza parlor shenanigans before getting thrown off for asking TUG about his wife's dickpic collection. Not to mention the golden baptismal of Comicsgate Jesus Ya Boi Zack's seminal work "Jawbreakers" that was uploaded to twitter (Vealey's art recreated here as Piss Zack by artist M. Dongs). Suffice to say, Skinny is a man who boasts ironclad "Anti-CG" credentials, though deciding to hide his power level in this sudden and unfamiliar environment in what was supposed to be a Nasser shill stream. Frog even goes so far as to back it at the original art tier.
Frog starts warming up his salesman skills as he goes through Otis Stein' product, mixed with jabs at Nasser's poverty while Nasser fumbles with screen sharing.. Skinny goes through his sales pitch, including side pieces like pins, black light posters and shot glasses, and Frog goes on that on the subject of victory and on the eve of this momentous election, he and Jon Malin want to bring everyone back in to Comicsgate.
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(Frog's answer "Total apathy")
It's at this point, at about 1:45:00 that the Etsies start to trickle in, first a few and then by the dozen. To give a Cliff's Notes on all this, Etsy Boys were some of the early funders of Otis Stein as an olive branch, a show of solidarity as well as possibly real interest in the comic. This tenuous relationship was dashed though when "Pink Rage Ape"/Wiggle Wiggle spammed a meme of Mecha McCheese appearing to fellate an endowed shirtless pot-bellied man behind a backyard fence all over Twitter, a regular occurrence with Wiggle discourse. Now, the story behind why they're fighting is long and not exactly germane to "Comicsgate" discussion, but the end result was Skinny going out to find the customers responsible and forcing them to take a refund, taking a stand that he'll refuse service to customers that behave in such a way. As a group with origins based in "customer advocacy", the idea of a creator running a refund campaign against them left the Etsy boys confused and, dare I say, more than a little intrigued...
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Discussion then drifts towards something all parties are interested in - Liam. Jon wants to know why Liam hates Nasser more than they hate Nasser. Nasser says he doesn't know, but recounts the various accusations of poaching, sabotage and gatekeeping leveled at Nasser from the Orange Koala. Malin says the idea of Nasser telling him who could go on his show is ridiculous and never happened. But that does sound like something someone under Nasser's thumb would say.
At two hours in, Frog and Malin plea with the audience to back Otis Stein #1, saying that this comic would reach five figures minimum if they were with Comicsgate and that they "call upon Anti-Comicsgate to put their money where their mouth is and fund this book". But alas, they can't or worse... they won't. The two Comicsgate Lords press the argument, describing "Anti-Comicsgate" as crabs in a bucket, but Nasser need not share their fate of mutual failure and hatred. If he would let the Good News of Comicsgate enter his heart once again, if he would declare himself Comicsgate once more, even a wretch like Nasser could be saved.
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Young Rabadi says he doesn't feel that he's part of a group, either anti or CG. But Frog reassures him that Comicsgate isn't a group. It's a movement, a sentiment, a reaction, a force, and either you are swept within its currents and eddies or you are not. "By that reasoning", Nasser says, "we are all Comicsgate". Frog gleefully agrees and smucklingly invites anyone who hates him or Jon Malin to prove his statements about Anti-CG wrong by supporting Skinny and Otis Stein. Frog goes so far as to say if Nasser had not left Comicsgate, he'd be making six figures. I remember Nasser leaving under different terms, but this doesn't stop Frog as he calls on Nasser to tell these people who egg him on but keep their wallets closed, these dirtworms, to "fuck off forever", to reject the road of anti-CG penury and to cross into the light.. Who, other then him and some guys on Kiwi farms, came to Nasser's aid in his moment of need?
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Mecha McCheese, surrounded by multiple factions that mostly hate and despise him, ignores everything going on to take aim at the most worthy target - Charlie's London, arguing that any movement that has Charlie in it does not deserve to exist. Mecha is an individual who doesn't believe in group association, defining himself more anti-Charlie's London than anything approaching "CG" or "Anti-CG".
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Meanwhile Jon Malin gives an impassioned speech about his personal experiences about the poverty of the people working in independent comics and his time in Image Comics. Nobody makes enough to live making independent comics, everyone except the people at the top have to work second jobs. Don't listen to the worms and the crabs who want to keep you in the bucket - there's only way of realizing the dream, and that's through Comicsgate.
And with that we leave with the re-comicsgated Nasser.
One thing not noted is that I did question Malin about the "anti-cg" boogieman. Once he couldn't name anyone I pointed out a lot of people labled "anti-cg" had my book fully funded in the first hour it was live.11/02/2020 - NASSER RABADI - DRAMA & COMICS LIVE CHAT!
This stream starts innocently enough. A solitary Nasser, having some free time, figures he'll get his friend Skinny/Matthew Vealey's crowdfund Otis Stein #1 up from to 88 backers to the optimistic goal of 100. Otis Stein looks like a credible work, an underground horror comic that has a borderline expressionist art style. The book is funded, the art is complete, the prices are competitively low ($6 minimum) and the crowdfund abstract looks very well put together (since there's no InDemand there's no way you can order should you be interested). It should be very appealing to possible backers, but Skinny's promotional tours on Fan Advocacy Network, Tim Lim', Comic Book Hut and Lorenzo Sleezestacks' programs have left him at around 88 backers all the same. Nasser thinks something is not right about this, and since he considers Skinny a friend, is holding this impromptu stream to get his crowdfund.
At the start, the stream is almost totally vacant, recreational troll "Mecha McCheese" alone in the chat and more interested in shittalking Donal and Nick Rekeita than the book, which Nasser quickly joins in on. It might have gone like this indefinitely had Skinny himself not joined the show, to sell his comic and express his dissatisfaction with Comicsgate's failures in the past. In factt, hed be happy to get it over that 100 backer count
At around an hour and five minutes in, Nasser is ruminating over "some weirdo named Testefy" who was haranguing to go on his show to "make it less boring". Skinny, playing coy, knows a bit more about all this and starts filling Nasser in about wristband and coozie lore and it was on this very subject that two unexpected guests appear in the chat.
View attachment 1702423
The topic of unwanted guests is quickly tossed aside as Nasser rolls out the welcome mat for Jon Malin and Frog, much to Skinny's displeasure. In the interest of ending drama, Nasser would be delighted if Frog and Jon Malin joined his show. Normally Frog likes to sneak in to Nasser streams to taunt and torment him outside the watchful eyes of Comicsgate at large, not unlike many other secret proclivities Frog is accused of but he, out of what I'm guessing is friendship and generosity, has decided to include Malin in on this rich source of salt and nectar.
At around 1:21:00, Malin is the first to join, immediately changing the subject to his victory over Dan Fraga in a recent drawing contest - the judges siding with Malin 5/6 (the viewers voted Dan Fraga the winner at ~96/152), Skinny's campaign is put on the backburner as Malin celebrates by complaining about the biased judges, the dismissive fans and upstart new talent that prevent him from receiving his due. Which as the contest winner, he received anyway, but that's merely a technicality. It's when Malin discusses his commissioning of a championship belt to wear over his shoulder while livestreaming that Frog joins to lend Malin moral support. He also introduces himself to Skinny and asks the audience if they, as as group, can get Otis Stein #1 up to 100 backers?
Now, unbeknownst to Frog or Malin, they have met Skinny in the past, here inquiring about pizza parlor shenanigans before getting thrown off for asking TUG about his wife's dickpic collection. Not to mention the golden baptismal of Comicsgate Jesus Ya Boi Zack's seminal work "Jawbreakers" that was uploaded to twitter (Vealey's art recreated here as Piss Zack by artist M. Dongs). Suffice to say, Skinny is a man who boasts ironclad "Anti-CG" credentials, though deciding to hide his power level in this sudden and unfamiliar environment in what was supposed to be a Nasser shill stream. Frog even goes so far as to back it at the original art tier.
Frog starts warming up his salesman skills as he goes through Otis Stein' product, mixed with jabs at Nasser's poverty while Nasser fumbles with screen sharing.. Skinny goes through his sales pitch, including side pieces like pins, black light posters and shot glasses, and Frog goes on that on the subject of victory and on the eve of this momentous election, he and Jon Malin want to bring everyone back in to Comicsgate.
View attachment 1702819
(Frog's answer "Total apathy")
It's at this point, at about 1:45:00 that the Etsies start to trickle in, first a few and then by the dozen. To give a Cliff's Notes on all this, Etsy Boys were some of the early funders of Otis Stein as an olive branch, a show of solidarity as well as possibly real interest in the comic. This tenuous relationship was dashed though when "Pink Rage Ape"/Wiggle Wiggle spammed a meme of Mecha McCheese appearing to fellate an endowed shirtless pot-bellied man behind a backyard fence all over Twitter, a regular occurrence with Wiggle discourse. Now, the story behind why they're fighting is long and not exactly germane to "Comicsgate" discussion, but the end result was Skinny going out to find the customers responsible and forcing them to take a refund, taking a stand that he'll refuse service to customers that behave in such a way. As a group with origins based in "customer advocacy", the idea of a creator running a refund campaign against them left the Etsy boys confused and, dare I say, more than a little intrigued...
View attachment 1702837
Discussion then drifts towards something all parties are interested in - Liam. Jon wants to know why Liam hates Nasser more than they hate Nasser. Nasser says he doesn't know, but recounts the various accusations of poaching, sabotage and gatekeeping leveled at Nasser from the Orange Koala. Malin says the idea of Nasser telling him who could go on his show is ridiculous and never happened. But that does sound like something someone under Nasser's thumb would say.
At two hours in, Frog and Malin plea with the audience to back Otis Stein #1, saying that this comic would reach five figures minimum if they were with Comicsgate and that they "call upon Anti-Comicsgate to put their money where their mouth is and fund this book". But alas, they can't or worse... they won't. The two Comicsgate Lords press the argument, describing "Anti-Comicsgate" as crabs in a bucket, but Nasser need not share their fate of mutual failure and hatred. If he would let the Good News of Comicsgate enter his heart once again, if he would declare himself Comicsgate once more, even a wretch like Nasser could be saved.
View attachment 1703055
Young Rabadi says he doesn't feel that he's part of a group, either anti or CG. But Frog reassures him that Comicsgate isn't a group. It's a movement, a sentiment, a reaction, a force, and either you are swept within its currents and eddies or you are not. "By that reasoning", Nasser says, "we are all Comicsgate". Frog gleefully agrees and smucklingly invites anyone who hates him or Jon Malin to prove his statements about Anti-CG wrong by supporting Skinny and Otis Stein. Frog goes so far as to say if Nasser had not left Comicsgate, he'd be making six figures. I remember Nasser leaving under different terms, but this doesn't stop Frog as he calls on Nasser to tell these people who egg him on but keep their wallets closed, these dirtworms, to "fuck off forever", to reject the road of anti-CG penury and to cross into the light.. Who, other then him and some guys on Kiwi farms, came to Nasser's aid in his moment of need?
View attachment 1703291
Mecha McCheese, surrounded by multiple factions that mostly hate and despise him, ignores everything going on to take aim at the most worthy target - Charlie's London, arguing that any movement that has Charlie in it does not deserve to exist. Mecha is an individual who doesn't believe in group association, defining himself more anti-Charlie's London than anything approaching "CG" or "Anti-CG".
View attachment 1703294
Meanwhile Jon Malin gives an impassioned speech about his personal experiences about the poverty of the people working in independent comics and his time in Image Comics. Nobody makes enough to live making independent comics, everyone except the people at the top have to work second jobs. Don't listen to the worms and the crabs who want to keep you in the bucket - there's only way of realizing the dream, and that's through Comicsgate.
And with that we leave with the re-comicsgated Nasser.
YBZ's entire D&C channel is his own five stages of grief over the death of comicsHallelujah, Bros. Dongs. I feel the power of the amphibian welling up within me! *ormylunch*
After having abandoned CG martyr, Ya boi Simpy for weeks, I got curious ie bored and watched a recent video.
We're to begin. The actual review was a gushing, embarrassing take on Three Jokers.
This was largely worthless except for what came before the review. He admits he 'watches' maybe half of Keyfabe's videos. He will not become a Keyfabelite channel. Instead he'll do one video review of a comic, new or old, and then maybe an editorial video a day....
I found myself getting mad at the little cow. It took me a day to process why.
This faggot's dream has been comics. He has tried and miserably failed to become an artist, has published failed kickstarters, and generally anytime he wasn't taking Middle Eastern people to Tom King's basement, trying and failing to make comics. Now he's done it. He's made it to where he gets to create comics. All he has to do is follow the 'model' that others do, but he can't be asked. Can't be asked to livestream, where you interact with customers, can't be asked to do social media, where you interact with customers, now he can't even be asked to put out consistent content?
I know it's wrong, but this level of stupid.
I checked on YF and Tug. Nothing interesting. they continue to put out the safe take and click bait.
Antonio Brice, you remember him? He's putting out snore streams reviewing the wire and interviewing artists.
CG shadow supporter appeared with British Cecil Az and Frog.
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The individual's dressed in cringe and mostly talked about Mando, because no one cares about comics....
That's all I could stomach. I guess it was my lunch after all...
It's okay because I'm back now. HAIL CAESAR.
So I will leave the mocking up to a low infomation HeelVsBabyface who hysterically didn't bother looking up Earth-11 which first debuted in 1987, thought Batwoman (Earth-11's Batman) was gay and not realising when talking about making kid flash different that Wally was Kid Flash.
No long con. I'm genuinely back. @FROG is right, this is the best way to do business. There's money to be made in CG. Listen to the customers and respect them and put out books. It's where I always belonged.I'm disappointed with Doug. Was it so long ago that he sneered at Ethan for crying at the lack of thanks in some con panel?
You're known for crying wolf. I wonder if this is a long con, or if the thought of the Frog whistling for his herd of sheep to vomit dollars into your lap was truly too enticing to pass up. I can't blame you for it, I suppose.
Outrage farming doesn't care about your facts.
I won't really be lurking lol I'm not into the drama or whatever. Just wanted to pop in and address your post that a friend linked me too.So a quick CG roll call.
Ethan @FROG
Edwin @edwin_boyette
Wenger @Wenger
Liam Gray @Tyne
Preston Poulter @PocketJacks
#1 Marmaduke Fan @#1EarthwormJimFan
JDA @TheCosmicWarrior
Nasser @NasserRabadi13
The Kim Jung Un comic guy who's name escapes me @COMMI3 MARK
Donal DeLay @Fathead
And now @Skinny is here.
Pretty sure CG and assorted comic crowdfunders will make up the majority of posters in this thread soon. If we can get Sketch Therapy to join the farms, it will have all been worth it.
EDIT: Oh and who could forget Sheila Allen @H0stile
EDIT 2: I also forgot Vikki @VIkkiVerse
And The Amazing Adam @The Real Official Adam
And the dearly departed LateNightComics @LateNightComics may he rest in peace.
Did I forget anyone, or are there any other lurkers who want to come out now?
Wasn't Late Night Comics the guy who made the infamous tweet to Darwyn Cooke's widow and then later said he was spying on CG from the inside (thereby making one of the talking points against CG a planted lie)? Did he actually die or was he just banned from here (assuming that is the case since his profile is not available)?EDIT 2: I also forgot Vikki @VIkkiVerse
And The Amazing Adam @The Real Official Adam
And the dearly departed LateNightComics @LateNightComics may he rest in peace.
Did I forget anyone, or are there any other lurkers who want to come out now?
The Kim Jung Un comic guy who's name escapes me @COMMI3 MARK
Late Night Comics is dead, Kiwi-wise. He was banned and marked as a Person of Interest (what cows usually get marked with, i.e. Preston Poulter, Donal DeLay, and Liam Gray) from initially being a KiwiLeak as I understand it (reference Black Glove incident lore with Tim Lim here, but please don't start asking for people to recount it again, it's fucking tiresome to hear people's different interpretations of what happened).Wasn't Late Night Comics the guy who made the infamous tweet to Darwyn Cooke's widow and then later said he was spying on CG from the inside (thereby making one of the talking points against CG a planted lie)? Did he actually die or was he just banned from here (assuming that is the case since his profile is not available)?
It wasn't me who made the post you referenced, it was Comicsgate's most beloved kiwi @Mister Dongs. He's respected and insightful, I'm hated and impulsive. He's the yang to my yin, the good cop to my bad cop, the hero you need to my hero you deserve, the angel on your shoulder to my devil, the Arnold Schwarzenegger to my Danny Devito (if you've seen Twins.)I won't really be lurking lol I'm not into the drama or whatever. Just wanted to pop in and address your post that a friend linked me too.
One more correction though. My book will be available on Amazon for physical and digital sometime in Q1 of 2020. So if anyone wants to get a copy you can either wait until then or DM me on Twitter (@MatthewVealey) and I'll see about selling you one of our extra copies from our print run.
Yes.Wasn't Late Night Comics the guy who made the infamous tweet to Darwyn Cooke's widow
Possibly.and then later said he was spying on CG from the inside (thereby making one of the talking points against CG a planted lie)?
No.Did he actually die
He was first thread banned if memory serves, then banned from the site when Sneasel (sp?) went rogue and banned a bunch of accounts before leaving the site. LNC was too pure for Comicsgate and kiwifarms. Last I heard he and Marsha Cooke eloped in Vegas and live happily with three children, wherever he is I hope he's happy.or was he just banned from here (assuming that is the case since his profile is not available)?
I'm sorry Commie Mark, but I don't know your name. Given my past hijinks on these farms, would you really want me to know it?Ouch, right in my vanity. You know how to hurt me.
I have no idea where to put Zack. On one had he was handed a shitty situation that he managed to turn around and ride it pretty well with Jawbreakers, on the other he's doing these small books with barely any promotion except showing up every now and then on EVS streams, but he still wants them to break the 2K backer count. His own promotion consists of doing a promo video on launch day and then spending 5 seconds of every video saying "this campaign exists." The man was given the proverbial keys to the kingdom and over time he seems like he lost interest and went "meh..." which is weird since he got pretty fired up doing things like the Expendables book or the Nexus stories.This was largely worthless except for what came before the review. He admits he 'watches' maybe half of Keyfabe's videos. He will not become a Keyfabelite channel. Instead he'll do one video review of a comic, new or old, and then maybe an editorial video a day....
I found myself getting mad at the little cow. It took me a day to process why.
This faggot's dream has been comics. He has tried and miserably failed to become an artist, has published failed kickstarters, and generally anytime he wasn't taking Middle Eastern people to Tom King's basement, trying and failing to make comics. Now he's done it. He's made it to where he gets to create comics. All he has to do is follow the 'model' that others do, but he can't be asked. Can't be asked to livestream, where you interact with customers, can't be asked to do social media, where you interact with customers, now he can't even be asked to put out consistent content?
No long con. I'm genuinely back. @FROG is right, this is the best way to do business. There's money to be made in CG. Listen to the customers and respect them and put out books. It's where I always belonged.
It wasn't me who made the post you referenced, it was Comicsgate's most beloved kiwi @Mister Dongs. He's respected and insightful, I'm hated and impulsive. He's the yang to my yin, the good cop to my bad cop, the hero you need to my hero you deserve, the angel on your shoulder to my devil, the Arnold Schwarzenegger to my Danny Devito (if you've seen Twins.)
Enough examples I'm sure you get the idea.
EDIT 2: I also forgot Vikki @VIkkiVerse
So a quick CG roll call.
Ethan @FROG
Edwin @edwin_boyette
Wenger @Wenger
Liam Gray @Tyne
Preston Poulter @PocketJacks
#1 Marmaduke Fan @#1EarthwormJimFan
JDA @TheCosmicWarrior
Nasser @NasserRabadi13
The Kim Jung Un comic guy who's name escapes me @COMMI3 MARK
Donal DeLay @Fathead
And now @Skinny is here.
Pretty sure CG and assorted comic crowdfunders will make up the majority of posters in this thread soon. If we can get Sketch Therapy to join the farms, it will have all been worth it.
EDIT: Oh and who could forget Sheila Allen @H0stile
EDIT 2: I also forgot Vikki @VIkkiVerse
And The Amazing Adam @The Real Official Adam
And the dearly departed LateNightComics @LateNightComics may he rest in peace.
Did I forget anyone, or are there any other lurkers who want to come out now?
The spirit of Astley worked its unironic magic in you, Nasser:
This song is like the CG Pledge of Allegiance now, you should sing it in duet with @FROG on keyboard.
Sir Skinny,One thing not noted is that I did question Malin about the "anti-cg" boogieman. Once he couldn't name anyone I pointed out a lot of people labled "anti-cg" had my book fully funded in the first hour it was live.
Everything else is fairly accurate though I wasn't being coy about Testefy. I'm just really not familiar with him enough to comment accurately.
And for the record, I'm not anti-cg. I just called out shitty behavior. In regards to the Etsy boys, I refunded two people in the heat of the moment. I later apologized privately and buried the hatchet. Not many are aware because I don't think stuff like that should be a public spectacle but you'll see Stu note it in the chat.
I'm not cg or anti. I'm just a dude who likes making comics and looking at big titties.