Official Election 2020 Doomsday Thread

Who wins on November 3rd? (Zeitgeist, not who you're voting for)

  • Expecting a Trump win.

    Votes: 978 45.7%
  • Expecting a Biden win.

    Votes: 277 12.9%
  • Expecting no clear winner on November 3rd.

    Votes: 885 41.4%

  • Total voters
    2,140
  • Poll closed .
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I was a Nader voter too and damn I loved rubbing it in to Gore whores. And my first vote ever was for Ron Paul in 1988. I have always had a perverse streak in voting.
I was too young to vote in '92, but my dad had me participate in a Perot campaign caravan. I still remember making a "Honk 4 Ross" sign that we taped to the front of the car.

FWIW for as many conservative leaners who hated Clinton for Bill's term, there were as many centrists who remember them very very fondly.
That's because Bill was a pretty moderate Dem. A lot of Republicans I know grudgingly respected him for scaling back the size of government, and not fucking up the economy. They just weren't particularly vocal about it.

Texan here. Californians are literally colonizing the American Southwest. It sucks. They even bring the horrific Califnornian suburban sprawl and highway wastelands here.
Arizonan. Can confirm. :(
 
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Under the assumption 4 years ago saying you'd vote for Trump would have people laughing at you, as opposed to now where they will actively attempt to destroy your property and livelihood, I'd say the likelihood people lie is pretty high
Wearing a red hat can get you attacked, even if it's not a MAGA hat, it's just a red hat that they see and believe might be one. It happened enough times to where people think twice about wearing an article of clothing, like they're in gang warfare.
 
Trump is well positioned to win PA if he gets the turnout his campaign is expecting.

Enthusiasm for him outside of Allegheny and Philadelphia counties is sky high. The man got 50,000 at a rally in Butler County which is adjacent to bumfuck nowhere pretty much except Pittsburgh isnt too far away to the south. If Biden doesnt go hog wild in Scranton/Wilks-Barre its gonna be tough for him
 
Trump is well positioned to win PA if he gets the turnout his campaign is expecting.

Enthusiasm for him outside of Allegheny and Philadelphia counties is sky high. The man got 50,000 at a rally in Butler County which is adjacent to bumfuck nowhere pretty much except Pittsburgh isnt too far away to the south. If Biden doesnt go hog wild in Scranton/Wilks-Barre its gonna be tough for him
Allegedly no one in Scranton likes him and wishes he would stop acting like he's from there but I live on the other side of the country so 🤷‍♂️
 
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Nobody cares. There was a poll a few months back that had a single question: "Would you be okay if your candidate accepted foreign assistance during their campaign if it meant they won?" Something absurd like 98% of both Republicans and Democrats said yes. There is literally no moral high ground or ethical debate and anyone attempting to frame any part of this election as either is being disingenuous.

And... this has to do with my argument how?... Okay then...
 
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The energy issue is massive. People aren't going to vote for a guy that puts them out of work, or a guy that puts their family members out of work.

I don't think your average Pennsylvanian takes the IMMA SCRANTON COAL MINER AND MINED DAT ANTHRACITE as anything but an escaped nursing home patient's lunatic ranting. They vote for him because he isn't Trump, not because he's a good ol' coal miner.

we'll see. by default Pennsylvania was definitely an uphill battle for trump, however if trump wins Pennsylvania the people who mocked trump for losing his home state in 2016 will have eggs on their face.
It will be kinda funny to see both presidential candidates lose their home state however.

100% hangs on youth turnout. Outside of Philly/Pitt, dude's support is anemic - one road trip around shows you a sea of Trump signs above even what 2016 did. And Philly -did- (is?) just have those rolling riots, which could depress turnout -- it's definitely in play, though favors Biden above the standard deviation he's got as a bulwark in the sunbelt states.

Right, I'd say every state depends on youth turnout. They rarely ever show up or vote in any significant numbers but perhaps this time it will be different Probably not though.
 
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