Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[dappouROCK]

What’s right with it? Once we threw out the defined roles and meanings of “man” and “woman”, all sorts of crazy shit happened, like the past 24 pages of this thread. Of course there will always be tomboys and sensitive guys, but they’re a far cry from femboys, drag queens, “enbies” and the like.

Son, you've got it all backwards. "Gender non-conformity" or whatever people wish to call it-- is not what caused the troon uprising. In fact, it's the opposite.

Men who believe they cannot enjoy traditionally feminine hobbies and activities because they are men is what causes them to transition. They believe they cannot enjoy these things unless they mutilate their bodies and go on to say "look, I'm a woman now, so you can't judge me for being into these things", (and vice versa for women who want to enjoy traditionally masculine hobbies/ activities/ apparel/ etc)

They feel the need to conform to the sex of which the stereotype dictates.
I.e The issue is "gender conformity" not "gender non-conformity".

Edit:
Of course, my argument is solely for those who suffer from body dysmorphia due to conflicting sex-stereotypes and general interests. (An issue that needs to be treated with therapy, NOT surgery) Those who have spawned from fetishistic arousal are a separate can of worms.

 

[Terrorist]

Son, you've got it all backwards. "Gender non-conformity" or whatever people wish to call it-- is not what caused the troon uprising. In fact, it's the opposite.

Men who believe they cannot enjoy traditionally feminine hobbies and activities because they are men is what causes them to transition. They believe they cannot enjoy these things unless they mutilate their bodies and go on to say "look, I'm a woman now, so you can't judge me for being into these things", (and vice versa for women who want to enjoy traditionally masculine hobbies/ activities/ apparel/ etc)

They feel the need to conform to the sex of which the stereotype dictates.
I.e The issue is "gender conformity" not "gender non-conformity".

Edit:
Of course, my argument is solely for those who suffer from body dysmorphia due to conflicting sex-stereotypes and general interests. (An issue that needs to be treated with therapy, NOT surgery) Those who have spawned from fetishistic arousal are a separate can of worms.

There’s some truth to that on the surface. All the extremely online trannies think that if a kid plays with a Barbie doll once, he’s trans.

...But if your thesis (that rigid gender norms lead to trooning out) is true, how come transgenderism wasn’t a phenomenon in earlier times when gender roles were much more strict, and only emerged when they loosened? Following your logic, it should be the opposite.

If my son turned out to be that way, I would have an conversation with him about where this stuff will lead to and refuse to pay for it, like certain parents would

OK...but if the conversation doesn’t work, what then? Your son destroys himself, just not on your dime? That’s no solution. Maybe it’s the most you could do, but if that’s your only recourse, perhaps there’s something wrong with a society holding permissive social mores which allow people to destroy themselves that way in the first place.

Situations like these (for us hypothetical, for many others real) are where social libertarianism hits a brick wall. We agree that turning out like Catboy Kami is bad. If it’s bad, shouldn’t you want other people’s sons not to turn out that way either, and therefore, for that behavior to be socially prohibited in the first place? You live in a society and like it or not, you have to share it with them.

 

[NerdShamer]

OK...but if the conversation doesn’t work, what then? Your son destroys himself, just not on your dime? Maybe it’s the most you could do, but if that’s your only recourse, perhaps there’s something wrong with a society allowing people to destroy themselves that way in the first place.

We agree that turning out like Catboy Kami is bad. If it’s bad, shouldn’t you want other people’s sons not to turn out that way either, and therefore, for that sort of thing to be socially prohibited in the first place? You live in a society and like it or not, you have to share it with them.

I would do absolutely nothing and warn the rest of my children about him. After all, if I do something to stop it, it would only prove the activists that I'm an terrible parent.

Besides, it'll probably be an "I told you so!" moment once the GRS goes wrong; but that will get written off by me being an asshole.

And also, quit being stupid with the "THIS IS AN SOCIETY!" crap. If it happens and we tried to warn people, then they'll have to live with the decisions that they were old enough to make.

 

[sperginity]

Hello all,

So. I saw a bad thing, and i think this thread is the most appropriate place to share it. I've shown this image to several lifelong healthcare workers, some deviants. There are no answers. It is an unsettling image, and it may capture your thoughts. Think about that before you click, please.

Ladies and Gentlemen, what is that wormlike eruption? Is it possible it *is* a worm? An asian version of the Botfly warble?

Thank you, and I'm sorry.

Spoiler: It seems sentient.

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My theory: a prolapse of the urethra (as in we are looking at the inside of a urethra that has been turned inside out). Most urethral prolapses are not nearly as long, because most people have a normal amount of urethra in their prolapse, but a male has way more urethral length than a female and so it could result in a narrow and especially long protrusion. not sure what else it could be.

 

[Terrorist]

I would do absolutely nothing and warn the rest of my children about him. After all, if I do something to stop it, it would only prove the activists that I'm an terrible parent.

Besides, it'll probably be an "I told you so!" moment once the GRS goes wrong; but that will get written off by me being an asshole.

So I guess you’d care more about what activists think of you, and being able to say I-told-you-so, than the welfare of your son? Great, you get to do the grumpy old man routine towards his AIDS-ridden corpse. If it was my son, I’d do everything in my power to stop him, legal or illegal.

And as the Joker or some other asshole once said, we do live in a society; how do we not? To be even more cliche, man is not an island. From our immediate family to everyone else, the choices of others impact us. If you say transgenderism “doesn’t effect you”, it’s not that it can’t, it’s just you’re lucky enough that it hasn’t (yet).

Put yourself in the shoes of a parent whose kid has Suporned himself with some hideous neovagina, and all the other people who have to deal with him. Places like San Francisco used to be great to live in, people there probably also thought “it didn’t effect them”...until it did.

 

[NerdShamer]

So I guess you’d care more about what activists think of you, and being able to say I-told-you-so, than the welfare of your son? Great, you get to do the grumpy old man routine towards his AIDS-ridden corpse. If it was my son, I’d do everything in my power to stop him, legal or illegal.

Honestly, I don't give an rat's ass on what the activists think. If people are dense enough to get into that kind of lifestyle, you can't really change their minds until it's too late (usually). But it's not the most important thing in the world, considering how humanity isn't on the verge of extinction. Granted, it's heartbreaking.

 

[dappouROCK]

There’s some truth to that on the surface. All the extremely online trannies think that if a kid plays with a Barbie doll once, he’s trans.

...But if your thesis (that rigid gender norms lead to trooning out) is true, how come transgenderism wasn’t a phenomenon in earlier times when gender roles were much more strict, and only emerged when they loosened? Following your logic, it should be the opposite.

You have to remember the sort of time we're in now. The surge did not come from those with dysmorphia and gender-stereotypes. I was arguing the fact that those who transition from dysmorphia do so because of these strict stereotypes, yes.

However, the immense rise of trannies did not come from dysmorphia, though. It came from fetishizing the act.

Perhaps this may be a stretch, but notice how the majority of transexuals today are straight (transwomen into women/ transmen into men). This movement surged around the time we started becoming more lax with homosexuality. There was a spark in troonery once gay marriage was legalized. They're taking advantage of this more "accepting" society, and touting their fetish in public.

We have become too laid-back, accepting people like this who attempt to turn themselves into the opposite sex in order to fulfil some sort of sick fetish.

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

There’s some truth to that on the surface. All the extremely online trannies think that if a kid plays with a Barbie doll once, he’s trans.

...But if your thesis (that rigid gender norms lead to trooning out) is true, how come transgenderism wasn’t a phenomenon in earlier times when gender roles were much more strict, and only emerged when they loosened? Following your logic, it should be the opposite.

It was a phenomenon, it was just rarer for people to make their feelings about sex and gender publicly known because it would have been social suicide. The repercussions for being different were more severe back then.

So I guess you’d care more about what activists think of you, and being able to say I-told-you-so, than the welfare of your son? Great, you get to do the grumpy old man routine towards his AIDS-ridden corpse. If it was my son, I’d do everything in my power to stop him, legal or illegal.

OK...but if the conversation doesn’t work, what then? Your son destroys himself, just not on your dime? That’s no solution. Maybe it’s the most you could do, but if that’s your only recourse, perhaps there’s something wrong with a society holding permissive social mores which allow people to destroy themselves that way in the first place.

Situations like these (for us hypothetical, for many others real) are where social libertarianism hits a brick wall. We agree that turning out like Catboy Kami is bad. If it’s bad, shouldn’t you want other people’s sons not to turn out that way either, and therefore, for that behavior to be socially prohibited in the first place? You live in a society and like it or not, you have to share it with them.

If my kid was Catboykami and talking to him didn't work, I'd probably do nothing as well. Forcing him to stop might make him run away and stop talking to me or just keep doing what he's doing behind my back. I'd want to be there for him, and that would be impossible if he saw me as an enemy.

The behavior that should be socially prohibited is being a coomer in public, not crossdressing. Perhaps kids should be taught about the dangers of the coomer life in sex ed class.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

Femboys don’t get cockchops do they?
Because this is cock chop thread.

remember lobster claws from a few pages back?

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Well, we have a healed photo! And it’s good news because it no longer looks like it’s leaking pus...

but bad news because it’s reverted to looking like THE BALL SACK IT IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE.

Spoiler: Crabby Patty

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Don’t google nullos.

The problem is pornography. A gay man in 1975 who dressed up as Cher and strutted around at the bar for laughs and dollar bills and then took it off and hooked up with other guys at the baths and enjoyed some Tom of Finland art is not the same as an autistic heterosexual who spends 14 hours a day jacking off to sissy hypno and who wears dresses because it makes him hard.

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

Don’t google nullos.

The problem is pornography. A gay man in 1975 who dressed up as Cher and strutted around at the bar for laughs and dollar bills and then took it off and hooked up with other guys at the baths and enjoyed some Tom of Finland art is not the same as an autistic heterosexual who spends 14 hours a day jacking off to sissy hypno and who wears dresses because it makes him hard.

I mean, the gay lifestyle in 1975 had its problems too. The rampant casual sex started the AIDs epidemic. Autogynephiles were also around back then, I believe. Pansy Fagotte claims he started crossdressing in the 70's or 80's and he's a total mess.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/erica-raelene-gifford-richard-t-gifford-sissy-baby-pansy-pansy-gronski-pansy-faggotte-alfred-john-schaerffer-master-al-john.67313/

 

[White bubblegum]

There’s some truth to that on the surface. All the extremely online trannies think that if a kid plays with a Barbie doll once, he’s trans.

...But if your thesis (that rigid gender norms lead to trooning out) is true, how come transgenderism wasn’t a phenomenon in earlier times when gender roles were much more strict, and only emerged when they loosened? Following your logic, it should be the opposite.


OK...but if the conversation doesn’t work, what then? Your son destroys himself, just not on your dime? That’s no solution. Maybe it’s the most you could do, but if that’s your only recourse, perhaps there’s something wrong with a society holding permissive social mores which allow people to destroy themselves that way in the first place.

Situations like these (for us hypothetical, for many others real) are where social libertarianism hits a brick wall. We agree that turning out like Catboy Kami is bad. If it’s bad, shouldn’t you want other people’s sons not to turn out that way either, and therefore, for that behavior to be socially prohibited in the first place? You live in a society and like it or not, you have to share it with them.

If people want to destroy themselves thats their problem. And if my son turned out like catboykami i'd be devastated, but hes still an adult who can make the choice to fuck himself up. Hes his own person and i cant force him to do anything about it. Also, catboykami would be a massive faggot even if he wasnt a femboy. If my son turned out to be a feminine, but otherwise normal dude i wouldnt care. If i want my son to be some stereotypical image of what a man should be i can go buy a ken doll.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

I mean, the gay lifestyle in 1975 had its problems too. The rampant casual sex started the AIDs epidemic. Autogynephiles were also around back then, I believe. Pansy Fagotte claims he started crossdressing in the 70's or 80's and he's a total mess.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/erica-raelene-gifford-richard-t-gifford-sissy-baby-pansy-pansy-gronski-pansy-faggotte-alfred-john-schaerffer-master-al-john.67313/

Sure, the gays had problems. But my point is that being a drag queen is very different from being an AGP, namely, that it’s not a sexual fetish.

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

Here's some NSFL phalloplasty results:

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[NerdShamer]

Here's some NSFL phalloplasty results:

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So, what exactly is the second image? It looks like an flesh burrito.

 

[Putin Bot]

I don't get phalloplasty. It looks nothing like a dick and I can't imagine it would be sexy to see the TIF have to pump it up to get an "erection", nor do I imagine it would feel good to be penetrated with. Also, can a TIF even feel any sensation to the slab of arm or thigh flap they carved off to make it and sewed to their groin? And if I recall, 80-90% of these rot off or have to be removed. Just how deluded do you have to be to actually be happy with your fucking arm or thigh skin being grafted onto your pubic area? The more they try to say it's not a mental illness and these surgeries are totally ethical, the more I see results from these unethical surgeries, the more I am astounded people are praising this and willingly signing up to allow this to happen.

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

So, what exactly is the second image? It looks like an flesh burrito.

FTM cock, lol.

 

[Fliddaroonie]

Holy shit balls, the second one has pores on it. Do they grow hair? Like as in, women's legs get hairy and all, and that's what these abominations are made from.

I mean these people do realise that plug in strap ons are a thing, right? As in the ones you stuff into yourself and fuck your partner with (I don't mean double ended ones, I mean stuff like this).

Christ, at least Mengele did some good, and his research into the tolerance of the human body to extremes of temperature is still the bedrock of our understanding of hypothermia. Beyond seeing what the most depraved shit you can get a person to do to themselves and then pay for, and sterilising those who should die out, I can't understand why you'd want a fat, flabby, soda pop can shaped useless flesh sausage hanging from you. So many gender affirming care, right?

 

[AnOminous]

...But if your thesis (that rigid gender norms lead to trooning out) is true, how come transgenderism wasn’t a phenomenon in earlier times when gender roles were much more strict, and only emerged when they loosened? Following your logic, it should be the opposite.

There have always been people uncomfortable with their sexuality but those who actually go far enough as an organized group to mutilate their generals have tended in the past to be religious in nature, because there would have been no tolerance for openly sexual degeneracy. Think the Skoptsy of Russia. Current social media troons largely exist because there's a semi-organized group that acts in a cult-like manner to recruit, provide approval to those who troon out, and provide a political justification for why this is good and not insanity.

I think it's pretty clear that actually mutilating yourself permanently is a vastly worse thing than just making a dumb lifestyle choice or two. The catboy can presumably find Jesus or whatever at some point if he decides this lifestyle isn't a good idea any more. The mutilated troon can never go back.

 

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Holy shit balls, the second one has pores on it. Do they grow hair? Like as in, women's legs get hairy and all, and that's what these abominations are made from.

It's transferred leg/arm skin, so it grows hair up and down the entire thing. It's just empty flesh and obviously cannot feel anything. As if poetry, it's a pale, dysfunctional imitation of the real thing.

I'm strongly reminded of a documentary by Louis Theroux on "transgender children," but he also branches out to the overall topic of transgenderism. In it, he interviews an FtM before their surgery and asks why they're going through with it, and their only answer was because their swim suit didn't have a bulge when they're on the beach, and when asked what it means to be a man, their only qualifier was being able to urinate while standing up.

That documentary as a whole is a joke. Not on Louis's behalf, not in the slightest. He does a fantastic job of presenting these people as impartially as possible and letting them speak for themselves. The documentary, as a documentary, is fantastic. But the people it's on are absurd. Worst of all was the kid it primarily focuses on, where it cannot be more apparent he is being pushed by his mother (who is divorced from his father) to be transgender. Once again, the kid is asked why he wants to be a girl, and his telling justification is because he gets all the toys he asks for.

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

Holy shit balls, the second one has pores on it. Do they grow hair? Like as in, women's legs get hairy and all, and that's what these abominations are made from.

I mean these people do realise that plug in strap ons are a thing, right? As in the ones you stuff into yourself and fuck your partner with (I don't mean double ended ones, I mean stuff like this).

Christ, at least Mengele did some good, and his research into the tolerance of the human body to extremes of temperature is still the bedrock of our understanding of hypothermia. Beyond seeing what the most depraved shit you can get a person to do to themselves and then pay for, and sterilising those who should die out, I can't understand why you'd want a fat, flabby, soda pop can shaped useless flesh sausage hanging from you. So many gender affirming care, right?

Some of them do grow hair. Check out the stubble on this one:

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I assume it's like how neovaginas occasionally spit out hairballs if the guy doesn't get laser hair removal on his balls before getting the surgery.


That person actually had a phalloplasty but kept their vagina.

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Front hole sex postop phalloplasty – My Phallo Diary

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