2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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I say easy winnings for the GOP come 24, you know, unless fraud happens. :roll:
All of you saying this. All of you saying the Rs can sweep in 2022 so it's all ok. You seem to not understand that if they can fraud this election while Trump has technical control of the executive functions (because we all know how much the bureaucrats under him undermine him) then every election down the line is only going to get more and more out of reach. The sheer amount of cope involved with thinking this is worse than the seething TES crowd who are throwing shitfits that Trump is challenging things through the legal and constitutional frameworks. It's worse than the T_D types who believe Trump is a 72D hyperdimensional chess player who has everything under control and will catch all the pedophiles now. It's worse than even the braindead zombie normies who think the AP is a functional part of the constitutional process and that Biden is already practically president. It's people looking into the abyss of what this level of fraud entails and going "I'll be ok if I fall in, I can just swim back out!". You types, you types are the absolute worst and most delusional. You are unironically less grounded in reality than the demographics are destiny folks who think race=voting preference.

I'm sorry, but these fraud machines are too dangerous and too powerful once they take hold to allow them to continue. Best of all is this absolute conviction amongst these types that the people who used it to win are just going to turn around and dismantle it. For what? Good sportsmanship? Are you retarded? Did you fall out of your mother's crotch this morning just to be this naive?

Give me all the hats because I can handle a dystopian future, but I can't stomach retards who think "everything is going to be ok because the corrupt will suddenly grow morals!"

I don't disagree that the fraud will get worse, but I also don't think they will do a good job covering their tracks. The heist relied on there being a surge in mail in voting this year, and that relied on a mass propaganda machine pushing the idea that it was unsafe to vote in person. I also believe that the lawsuits need to continue after the electoral college decides, and I sincerely hope the GOP isn't dumb enough to end their investigations. If they continue the litigation into next year, there won't be enough media exposure for the DNC to mobilize support for the fraud, and with less exposure and people moving on to the next outrage du jour, we might actually see legally rational decisions coming out of the courts.
Look at the shit that you have to believe to think that everything is going to be fine.

The sanctity and infallibility of Mail-In Ballots are necessary for a Biden administrations legitimacy, thus with control of both the Presidency and the House the cope camp think they're going to scrap that process and delegitimize themselves in the process? Literally undermine themselves? And for what?

You also need to believe that the GOP has ever and even now is 100% behind Trump. I think we can all see at the absolute best case scenario Trump has maybe 2/3s of the institutionalized GOP behind him. You want evidence of how much the GOP is complicit in the Democrats schemes? Go look at Georgia and Kemp. Hell, go look at every state that somehow has flipped from a Red state to a solid Blue one the last couple decades. Did everyone forget that Project Veritas video out of San Antonio where the woman was working for a Republican Congressman in order to get votes for Biden and the Democrat Senate candidate? But sure, we can rely on these limp wristed cucks to save us say the terminally coped.

Oh and you want to know the best part of this cope belief system? You need to believe that there will be fraud just as obvious as this time around or more and that Republicans will better fight it later. I can't even comprehend thinking this garbage. It's absolutely mindblowing how complex the naivety of this way of thinking is.
 
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This "Civil War" they keep sperging about, if they really had any sort of intent to fight in it or any idea of what such a thing would entail, should be the last thing they could possibly want. If infrastructure gets disrupted for even a week, I'd imagine most of them would be sobbing uncontrollably in a corner somewhere because they can't post their 'hot takes' on Twitter anymore. Not to mention I don't see the Tranny Brigade faring well against, well, anyone. Not even an old Fudd with his 30-06. Half of them would probably hang themselves before they saw combat. Do these people genuinely believe that they would find victory or even survive should such a thing happen?

If they had any sense they would be furiously backpedaling to avoid such a result, but they've done so much stupid shit over the Summer that they've proven themselves wrong. All of those "racist, bigoted, homophobic fascist Nazis" they keep claiming are behind every blade of grass sure seem tolerant of retards burning their cities down. If they do manage to piss people off to the point that we reach some kind of "civil war" state of affairs, they most likely won't be alive long enough to understand what went wrong, if they even could.

You're fragile enough that you've "got a bad feeling" and are asking random chucklefucks on Twitter to soothe you, and you think you're going to wage war? Good fucking luck.
They're the same people that calls trump a draft dodger so it would be ironic to see them flee to another country. Maybe they'll see why some people dodged the draft.
 
Give me all the hats because I can handle a dystopian future, but I can't stomach retards who think "everything is going to be ok because the corrupt will suddenly grow morals!"

Seriously. We're talking about the DNC, a political party, not the fucking Grinch. Pelosi's heart isn't suddenly going to grow three sizes and start giving out her thousand-dollar stash of ice cream to poor children in her neighborhood or some shit.
 
Did we break a record for butthurt lib posting yesterday? It was really something.

Now they're back in TES congratulating themselves on their raid, confident that nobody is allowed to give it right back to them.

But this is the hugbox guise.
You tagged us in this thread, and now you're assmad we came in and hurt your feefees.
 
This "Civil War" they keep sperging about, if they really had any sort of intent to fight in it or any idea of what such a thing would entail, should be the last thing they could possibly want. If infrastructure gets disrupted for even a week, I'd imagine most of them would be sobbing uncontrollably in a corner somewhere because they can't post their 'hot takes' on Twitter anymore. Not to mention I don't see the Tranny Brigade faring well against, well, anyone. Not even an old Fudd with his 30-06. Half of them would probably hang themselves before they saw combat. Do these people genuinely believe that they would find victory or even survive should such a thing happen?

If they had any sense they would be furiously backpedaling to avoid such a result, but they've done so much stupid shit over the Summer that they've proven themselves wrong. All of those "racist, bigoted, homophobic fascist Nazis" they keep claiming are behind every blade of grass sure seem tolerant of retards burning their cities down. If they do manage to piss people off to the point that we reach some kind of "civil war" state of affairs, they most likely won't be alive long enough to understand what went wrong, if they even could.

You're fragile enough that you've "got a bad feeling" and are asking random chucklefucks on Twitter to soothe you, and you think you're going to wage war? Good fucking luck.
They're counting on the military, Feds, and police to do their fighting for them. Whether that will actually happen is up for debate, but I'd say it's likely a split. The Pentagon, commissioned officers, Feds, and big city police would take their side, while the enlisted and the suburban/rural cops and sheriffs (depending on the area) would probably side with the the Righties.

Just my unqualified opinion.
 
Man, Walz NEEDS Biden/Harris to be inaugurated. Anything else, and he and the Minneapolis mayor could be thrown to the wolves. Between Omar, Little Mogadishu, and George Floyd, I'm betting the liberals could see the Twin Cities as a flashpoint on the road to progressive utopia, and instead, you got another Illinois.

You're German? I got something special for that.
Walz is fucked no matter what, as is Frey likely. After his limpdicked response to the riots, he absolutely deserves to lose next election.

Re: Omar - I figure it's only a matter of time before she outlives her usefulness and nobody's willing to run interference for her bullshit. Phyllis Kahn was rather leery of the election results that saw Omar unseat her, and for good reason as we've seen - Omar plays this game like she's still in Somalia. Friend of mine spoke highly of Kahn, has no use for Omar's bullshit.
Aw, Phyllis Kahn. She is a based old Joo. She used to be a genetics and cell biology professor...I wonder what she thinks about the left’s accelerated descent into degeneracy and lunacy over the past few years.
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Walz and Frey are likely fucked either way because they are not going far enough for the leftists and what they are doing pisses everyone off. There is chatter from true progressives about challenging Walz in the DFL primary and two moderate DFL state senators split off from the DFL caucus to form an “Independent Caucus” so now people are pushing one, Bakk, to challenge Walz too. Frey, on the other hand, is meeting with black community leaders and telling them all of the increase in violent crime is “not happening in our streets“. Instead, he claims the spike is due to domestic violence in the home. Both are up, but the 319% increase in carjackings this year begs to differ with Frey’s assessment. Does this look like someone’s home or the street? And it is not a good sign for Frey when a former city council member is suing the city over not fulfilling their duty to public safety. The cracks are showing at the city council level too, where Lisa Bender announced she will not seek re-election. She ruined the city first, but she sees the writing on the wall. She is a laughing stock after her CNN interview saying calling the police is a privilege, then calling the police when her home was vandalized by leftists. She has reportedly put the house up for sale and moved to a suburb.

Ilhan Omar is and continues to be an embarrassment to the great state of Minnesota. I don't even know how she's even still in office with all the shit that she's pulled. She even behaves like the worst kind of diversity hire.
Media interference helps. Local news did not report on her funneling millions to her side piece/now husband until this week when she cut the cord suddenly. Then they acknowledged her doing that was “controversial”. No, it was illegal, but baby steps from the fake news.

I am really not a fan of how Tucker is being jerked off for the Sydney Powell thing. I hate how quick the left is to jump on the dicks of right wingers who say something negative about Trump. The fact they did it for John Bolton really shows how hypocritical.

Also does anybody a good resource about how alot of the ballots that showed up in the middle of the night only impacted the presidential races and not the congressional ones.
They did the same thing with a clip of Tucker talking about socialism with Cornel West. Leftists have no morals, only temporary alliances.
 
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All of you saying this. All of you saying the Rs can sweep in 2022 so it's all ok. You seem to not understand that if they can fraud this election while Trump has technical control of the executive functions (because we all know how much the bureaucrats under him undermine him) then every election down the line is only going to get more and more out of reach. The sheer amount of cope involved with thinking this is worse than the seething TES crowd who are throwing shitfits that Trump is challenging things through the legal and constitutional frameworks. It's worse than the T_D types who believe Trump is a 72D hyperdimensional chess player who has everything under control and will catch all the pedophiles now. It's worse than even the braindead zombie normies who think the AP is a functional part of the constitutional process and that Biden is already practically president. It's people looking into the abyss of what this level of fraud entails and going "I'll be ok if I fall in, I can just swim back out!". You types, you types are the absolute worst and most delusional. You are unironically less grounded in reality than the demographics are destiny folks who think race=voting preference.

I'm sorry, but these fraud machines are too dangerous and too powerful once they take hold to allow them to continue. Best of all is this absolute conviction amongst these types that the people who used it to win are just going to turn around and dismantle it. For what? Good sportsmanship? Are you retarded? Did you fall out of your mother's crotch this morning just to be this naive?

Give me all the hats because I can handle a dystopian future, but I can't stomach retards who think "everything is going to be ok because the corrupt will suddenly grow morals!"
Let me provide you a realistic reasoning that it won't be as bad as this year.

First, lack of Covid. Oh yes, the obvious rebuttal is that they will just conjure a new thing or reuse covid. The problem is that the federal government has absolutely no say in how elections are run. The state governments are, and every state save Nevada involved in this clusterfuck is republican. This leads to,

Second, Trump isn't just dissappearing. Neither is he going to prison. They can try, but Trump can make that go on forever. So, we have Trump still existent, and rallying his supporters. All 71 million of them. That is a LOT of pressure he can place on state legislatures who rely on those votes, which leads to,

Third, There WILL BE election reform. Georgia already dips its toes into it due to realizing how well they are gonna get fucked at the ballot box by both sides. Trump's continual fire, the risk of being permanently shut out of power, and the simple fact that this is a clusterfuck that needs addressing means it will be so.


In short, the system won't become more secure because it suddenly grew morals. Its going to become more secure because in how glaring it was, it ensured that no result BUT election reform can occur. And the federal government doesn't get a say in that.
It means they say they'll tighten things next time around. Whether they actually will is rainbows.
See above, they kinda -have- to. Its either that, or Trump leads a train on them and a brand, shiny new legislature takes its place.
 
You don't understand that there is no, "Kissing his seat goodbye" because the vote will never matter. You won't be able to vote these people out. If they rig this election, they will do it again, and they will do it so thoroughly that the fraud will be virtually undetectable. Any talk of not accepting the results will immediately cause swathes of headlines about how Republican candidates refuse to concede, and then walla! All the balls the RINOs gained under Trump will disappear. They'll take the path of least resistance like they always do and be content to be the controlled opposition.

That is what is on the line this election.
How much voter fraud went down in West Virginia? How much went down in Ohio? Is there a big democrat machine in Montana that can simply manufacture votes for their candidate? What are the election laws in these states regarding deadlines for mail in ballots, for recounts, for electoral observation, and for audits? Have the Board of Elections in these states been as corrupt in these states as they have been in the current battleground states? If you can't answer all of these questions substantively, you cannot comment on the validity of those races.

This if the fundamental problem with Americans and why not paying attention to local variables is such a problem. Everyone seems to think that the problems are universal and the elections can be rigged in the same manner and to the same degree, but that is not true. Each state has its own election laws with its own strengths and weaknesses. Assuming there is a universal fix and a universal problem is fundamentally retarded, and you should be ashamed for being such a massive doomer.

As for these RINOs with balls, name them. Is McConnell a RINO? is Lindsey Graham a RINO? How about Ted Cruz? I don't think you actually understand that Trump is the RINO and not the other way around.
 
You think "progressives" care? That's cute.

They will justify literally anything if it benefits them. They have no standards. None. They do not give two flying fucks about anything that isn't winning.
Looking at how Cenk jumped the gun on sucking Biden's cock superfast before even any of his cohosts did, shows how much does the progressive wing care about the "people" lol. At least they have been shown to be grifters and it showed when Bernie in 2020 performed very badly in the primaries that Bootygig would have been the actual winner and nominee.
 
I'm not really contributing to the discussion much. I am just...things are such a mess right now and the doomerposting is tiring and unhelpful.

Despite the rather extraordinary stuff that happened I keep thinking nothing will go anywhere now, based on how people are acting.
 
There's other options.

People have suggested this was a local idiot or two who saw the Red Wave and panicked, so they just tossed in the ballots instead of just letting Trump have the W and trying to rig downballots so he'd have no House/Senate (which would have been the smart play). Basically, Local Corruption + Panic = A little Fraud becomes MASSIVE FRAUD and shit hits the fan.

People have also suggested that other affinity groups saw one of the states pull the "Push Buttan Receive Ballot" thing at 4 AM and decided to do it themselves. Your standard monkey see sheboon do situation.

It appears to be too sloppily done to be something the DNC would have ordered from on high. It really appears to be local idiots who didn't think it could be detected, or didn't care about the consequences because "lol what's he gonna do sue us?"

Nah fam. We have plenty of evidence the rig was in from the start. What IS true is that as I explain bellow, the rig turned out to be insufficient, and it fell into local idiots to rig further in hopes of making it sufficient after the fact, that's why this got so ludicrous, but they had plans, it's just that they sucked.

It's too bad the narrative gatekeepers and their NPC thralls have the attention and memory span of a gnat with a concussion. Otherwise, this shit would have an effect.

I have mixed feelings about Macron. He seems to want to become a based neo-Napoleon, but can't help prostrating himself before Frau Merkel.


Macron is only "strong" when he's fighting the yellow vests and other locals. He bends over and takes it not just from Merkel but also every other foreign power on the planet, he's like the living embodyment of the stereotype of a bully, he acts tough when he knows he can boss you around but push back even slightly and he's your bitch. Fuck even Sanchez made him his bitch. SANCHEZ. Guy's a bottom's bottom, a cheap whore without a spine and with only half a brain, whose success in the primaries is entirely based on how much cock he sucked and how inoffensive he was, and even that fucking weakling can dominate Macron over here! "Neo Napoleon" yeah I'm sure that's what his dominatrix calls him, sarcastically.

According to Powell, Trump did so well that Dominion algorithms actually broke and they had to resort to manual input of Biden votes to win.

Funny if true.

Oh I have no doubts it's true, and this thread has sufficient evidence on that too. Remember how when they started catching the Dominion fuckery it had to do with small batches? If you recall, what we found was that essentially dominion was giving a small and random amount of trump votes to biden every single time automatically, basically always "rounding up" for biden and "rounding down" for Trump. (And other parties because btw we caught at least once this was done to the lolberts too.) This some on the thread posted evidence saying indeed was a function dominion had from the very begining and which in fact had been used in the past. This is a type of Encasillamiento that has been done for ages and it's quite well known for tyrannical uniparties and turnismos.
You may notice however, this was done from the very begining in subtle by small ways. The SPIKE Is what happened when they found out this wasn't enough to edge Trump out and they needed to give a real Pucherazo to override that shit. Basically, their rigging was planned to be far more subtle and they were prepared since long ago for small amounts of fraud to give them a lead. But the Red Wave happened and they were not prepared for that. That's why they got so sloppy, 'cause they were expected Corona to assrape Trump's turnout, but far from that he won 10 mill since 2016, and that means they now had to fabricate an extra 10 MILLION FUCKING VOTES to edge him, and that ain't something you can do subtly anymore.

That's why I keep saying Trump is the one thing that they weren't ready for. If shit had gone their way, they'd have used corona to write into law ways to force every other county to use similar systems and from now on american elections would've been meaningless.Everyone who talked about the fuckery would be condemned to ostracism for conspiracy nuttery and the normies would be none the wiser as the uniparty did as uniparties do. You'd really be venezuela but bigger. But Trump's 70M erection... I mean election turnout fucked them up.
 
How much voter fraud went down in West Virginia? How much went down in Ohio? Is there a big democrat machine in Montana that can simply manufacture votes for their candidate? What are the election laws in these states regarding deadlines for mail in ballots, for recounts, for electoral observation, and for audits? Have the Board of Elections in these states been as corrupt in these states as they have been in the current battleground states? If you can't answer all of these questions substantively, you cannot comment on the validity of those races.
They're working on installing a corrupt democrat machine in Atlanta right now. They're attempting to turn Georgia into the Illinois of the south right now.
 
They're counting on the military, Feds, and police to do their fighting for them. Whether that will actually happen is up for debate, but I'd say it's likely a split. The Pentagon, commissioned officers, Feds, and big city police would take their side, while the enlisted and the suburban/rural cops and sheriffs (depending on the area) would probably side with the the Righties.

Just my unqualified opinion.

Doesn't the US military have a history of fragging officers in extremis?

https://allthatsinteresting.com/fragging-vietnam-war
https://archive.vn/wip/zu2NW

Obviously, in the context of Vietnam, I'd consider it a pro-Communist mutiny but in this context, I'd considered it Libertarian Justice,
 
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This is getting expensive for them. How did they already deplete their legal fund?
Personally I think they know that if Trump wins, they’d be broke so the DNC is just preparing to get as much money as they could before that possibility happens. Which if I were them I’d do the same
 
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