Official Election 2020 Doomsday Thread

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Who wins on November 3rd? (Zeitgeist, not who you're voting for)

  • Expecting a Trump win.

    Votes: 978 45.7%
  • Expecting a Biden win.

    Votes: 277 12.9%
  • Expecting no clear winner on November 3rd.

    Votes: 885 41.4%

  • Total voters
    2,140
  • Poll closed .
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This is a very dumb debate because, on the one hand, it's semantics, and on the other, it's painfully fucking obvious that the MSM is in the consent-manufacturing industry. Suppressing the Hunter Biden story, algorithmically flagging 'disinformation' on social media platforms, etc. I'm old enough to remember the runup to the Iraq War. Everyone here is old enough to remember that Hillary winning in 2016 was supposed to be inevitable, and Trump won because of Russian hackers -- at least, that's what we were told by the same authorities that are now telling us what is true and false and what is impossible and possible.

And if Trump somehow does win a second term, will the MSM do a mea culpa? Will they have a primetime segment that opens with "When we said it was impossible, what we meant was..." Of course not. They didn't with Russiagate. There's no hard questions about why so many of the neocons who blundered & lied us into war are now influential in Bidenworld. None of them ever suffer for being painfully wrong.

And even if Biden does get sworn in, how can anyone be comfortable with the MSM taking it upon themselves to declare the winner and establish the post-election narrative nowadays, given how brazenly they're editorializing reality? Regardless of whether or not they've done it in the past, if you're comfortable with today's corporate media/social media hegemon dictating reality by fiat then you're a goddamned fool.
 
I'm not about to argue the media is a giant pile of shit and that goes for almost all media including the trueinfo.patroit articles people usually pull out their ass after stating that. People here aren't arguing for the media they are arguing that based on the vote counts and the total failure of the Trump lawsuits to find any meaningful victories he's lost the election. Some media outlets actually did wait out the meaningful lawsuits and recounts, AP only called it after Georgia was cleared. PA is supposed to certify today, if they do it's officially all over.
 
This is a very dumb debate because, on the one hand, it's semantics, and on the other, it's painfully fucking obvious that the MSM is in the consent-manufacturing industry. Suppressing the Hunter Biden story, algorithmically flagging 'disinformation' on social media platforms, etc. I'm old enough to remember the runup to the Iraq War. Everyone here is old enough to remember that Hillary winning in 2016 was supposed to be inevitable, and Trump won because of Russian hackers -- at least, that's what we were told by the same authorities that are now telling us what is true and false and what is impossible and possible.

And if Trump somehow does win a second term, will the MSM do a mea culpa? Will they have a primetime segment that opens with "When we said it was impossible, what we meant was..." Of course not. They didn't with Russiagate. There's no hard questions about why so many of the neocons who blundered & lied us into war are now influential in Bidenworld. None of them ever suffer for being painfully wrong.

And even if Biden does get sworn in, how can anyone be comfortable with the MSM taking it upon themselves to declare the winner and establish the post-election narrative nowadays, given how brazenly they're editorializing reality? Regardless of whether or not they've done it in the past, if you're comfortable with today's corporate media/social media hegemon dictating reality by fiat then you're a goddamned fool.
You can't attack a conglomerate. Since it's an amorphous entity that takes the shape of whatever benefits the financier. The only ones who suffer the consecuences of unproven or reprehensible editorializing are the hired "journalists" (after a sumptuous severance package) like Rush or Bill (don't know how Lemon's incompetent team is still on the air) or independent talking heads like Alex Jones, so obviously detached from ethic journalism as your average crackwhore from healthy relationships.

Corporatism is the shit.
 
I want to get this on record. How likely do you think that Biden won the 2020 Presidential election? How high a confidence would you need to start calling Biden 'President-Elect'?
Try asking this question to other trump supporters, you’ll be interested to hear the response. I asked someone, that if they did a recount and Biden won, and there was no fraud and everyone was certain, would he accept a Biden victory. The guy said no in this case, but I wonder what percentage of trump supporters would say no. At the very least, in 2016 the left conceded even if they did cry about it afterwards. This goes back to the idea of arguments in general, if you are arguing with someone, and ask “what would it take to change your mind” and they can’t answer, then they’ll never change and it’s not worth arguing anymore. If they aren’t willing to be proven wrong then any discussion is a waste of time unless you’re doing it to get your kicks
 
The media claimed Biden won, when ACTUALLY he was only 99.999% of the way to winning, thus proving they can't be trusted.
The media claimed Biden won despite massive amounts of irregularities that weren't yet investigated plus some that still haven't been fully figured out yet, thus proving they can't be trusted.*
 
Hillary conceded in 2016, and didn’t call for a recount, which is the opposite of 2020
And then came 4 years of screeching from the left that Trump cheated, that the electoral college isn't legitimate, and that Russia hacked the election. Just cause Hillary conceded doesn't mean the left did, they absolutely didn't.
 
Hillary conceded in 2016, and didn’t call for a recount, which is the opposite of 2020
Not true. She back door financed Jill Stein's recount efforts in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania after "conceding". Something that most people forget about.

And then of course by then anti-Trumpers in the govt like Brennan, Weissmann and Strozyk had already lined up their putsch.

So what you are saying is revisitionist history. Dems did not just accept the result. Far from it.

I say this as someone that accepts that Trump lost in 2020.
 
I want to get this on record. How likely do you think that Biden won the 2020 Presidential election? How high a confidence would you need to start calling Biden 'President-Elect'?
Here's a question for you - would you have voted for Romney this year if it meant he could get rid of Trump? How many democrats do you think would have voted for Romney if it meant getting rid of Trump?

None because he's a fucking republican and it's mother fucking 2020, the year of separate overton windows? Then why the fuck would a bunch of republicans, exclusively in swing states - swing states that all paused their vote tallying and have been riddled with shenanigans - vote democrat? Why did republicans only do that in those 4 states? Why did those 4 states pause their count? Why were they refusing poll watchers and inventing ever more elaborate reasons to keep poll watchers out? Because I noticed how fucking salty you all got over my posts, but a distinct lack of any actual arguments. A running theme.
 
Here's a question for you - would you have voted for Romney this year if it meant he could get rid of Trump? How many democrats do you think would have voted for Romney if it meant getting rid of Trump?

None because he's a fucking republican and it's mother fucking 2020, the year of separate overton windows? Then why the fuck would a bunch of republicans, exclusively in swing states - swing states that all paused their vote tallying and have been riddled with shenanigans - vote democrat? Why did republicans only do that in those 4 states? Why did those 4 states pause their count? Why were they refusing poll watchers and inventing ever more elaborate reasons to keep poll watchers out? Because I noticed how fucking salty you all got over my posts, but a distinct lack of any actual arguments. A running theme.
Trump isnt a republican.
 
The media claimed Biden won despite massive amounts of irregularities that weren't yet investigated plus some that still haven't been fully figured out yet, thus proving they can't be trusted.*
Lol what irregularities? Trump's lawsuits are getting thrown out left and right due to lack of evidence.
 
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