2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[Taco]

I saw the same article multiple times today; if it's the same one I'm thinking of it's another "DUDE TRUST ME;"

He said it in front of a room full of military and press as part of his Thanksgiving speech but he already seems to be walking it back.

 

[Syaoran Li]

So humor me what does "nuke the electoral college" mean exactly?

Get the state legislatures to appoint electors that will vote for him.

It's entirely legal and within the confines of the Constitution but it's also seen as a last resort or "nuclear option"

 

[Standardized Profile]

Another problem is they didn't anticipate massive fraud, if you read the Constitution it becomes clearly evident that they only anticipated for a tie breaker, which explains why the Trump Team are doing everything they can to prevent certification (among other obvious reasons).

The Founders knew sufficiently wicked men could subvert the Constitution, and they tried to warn us. Adams wrote, "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." Madison said the Constitution requires "sufficient virtue among men for self-government." And Franklin famously said the Constitution gives us "a republic, if we can keep it." No constitution, no matter how perfect, can survive cheating, fraud, and a people who accept that.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

I was just looking for this actually, since this keeps getting mentioned in the thread yet for some reason, no one's actually posted the clip, so here, this clip is his entire response to the reporter's question (though only the first 20 or so seconds are relevant). What's notable is he does say that he certainly will leave the White House if the Electoral College elects Biden, but right after he says he thinks there'll be a lot of things happening between now and the 20th of January, so it seems to be a conflicting answer.

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Okay, so this was a nothingburger, he basically said that if it were a truly legitimate loss would he concede, which is far from proven. A lot of things between now and 01/20/21 indeed.

 

[mindlessobserver]

I saw the same article multiple times today; if it's the same one I'm thinking of it's another "DUDE TRUST ME;"

Basically this. Trump has said he will respect the will of the College, bst also implies he will try and use it to his advantage as @Just a boy pointed out.

Its the ultimate hail mary. The Electoral College has never been used in its constitutional manner as a deliberative body before. Even the controversial 1824 election simply defaulted to a contingent election because no candidate got a majority of the electors. Alexander Hamilton (who pushed for its creation) certainly assumed that the the Electoral College could be used to sort out a bad election outcome, but in the two centuries of the Republics history it has never been used that way. It has always been a rubber stamp.

I don't see Trump having support in his own party to change this either. He may have rank and file support, but the Republican Leadership has always been opposed to him. They won't go along with it. The Electors and the State Legislatures would have to break ranks, and that is not going to happen barring a Christmas fucking miracle.

 

[alreadyhome]

Trump is probably bullshiting the media and has no intention of letting this pass. The stakes are just too high for him now. He is almost fully tired of the media now and the idea he will just go peacefully is a pipe dream for his enemies. He hasn't conceded till now, he is planning to not let this go either and will nuke the electoral college most likely.

He said something in his Thanksgiving press conference like "I don't know how conceding is possible"

 

[CrippleThreat]

I was just looking for this actually, since this keeps getting mentioned in the thread yet for some reason, no one's actually posted the clip, so here, this clip is his entire response to the reporter's question (though only the first 20 or so seconds are relevant). What's notable is he does say that he certainly will leave the White House if the Electoral College elects Biden, but right after he says he thinks there'll be a lot of things happening between now and the 20th of January, so it seems to be a conflicting answer.

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Honestly, this is a late saying but, don't expect anything out of Donald Trump saying anything. I'd say the same in regards to doing, but when he does something, at least he tries to make sure it's done (inb4 muh wall and swamp).

 

[ditto]

Why isn't cancer capitalized but Alzheimers is?

Dr Alzheimer was Black, but Dr Cancer was white.

relatively small cabal of elites from just cycling through continuously, especially when almost none of them ever need to be voted for in the first place.

Nothing as egregious as Henry Kissinger (yet). LBJ brings Kissinger into the White House. He stays and becomes more powerful when his blood rival Nixon is elected. WTF?! 50 years later Clinton visits him while running for Prez, like he's the freaking pope.

The next Trump can't just be another "Donald Trump & Sons", but needs to be a whole party of about 300 people ready to fill up the top positions of government.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

The Founders knew sufficiently wicked men could subvert the Constitution, and they tried to warn us. Adams wrote, "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." Madison said the Constitution requires "sufficient virtue among men for self-government." And Franklin famously said the Constitution gives us "a republic, if we can keep it." No constitution, no matter how perfect, can survive cheating, fraud, and a people who accept that.

I still would've tried to install provisions to deal with it rather than leave it to its demise. This is not "If people lose favor for the republic, they get what they deserve", this is "Outside forces will do everything to undermine and unroot the power of our system, let's install protections to prevent it from being subverted so this rare opportunity we've already fought so hard to secure to enjoy liberty won't be spoiled and ruined by malicious megalomaniacs."

 

[Eggplant Wizard]

What court accepts twitter screenshots as evidence?

Any court. It is a case of “This is what was written online, which prompted us to look deeper.”, essentially making said Twitter posts a “step 1“ in the legal/investigative process. Another situation is death threats that seem actionable, since if you threaten to kill someone on Twitter and you turn out to live 8 minutes from them, that is a good faith argument for intent to cause bodily harm. Defamation cases also come to mind.

There are reasons why one of the prime rules of the internet is to never post anything you wouldn‘t dare say IRL, at least not without putting up a number of screens.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Basically this. Trump has said he will respect the will of the College, bst also implies he will try and use it to his advantage as @Just a boy pointed out.

Its the ultimate hail mary. The Electoral College has never been used in its constitutional manner as a deliberative body before. Even the controversial 1824 election simply defaulted to a contingent election because no candidate got a majority of the electors. Alexander Hamilton (who pushed for its creation) certainly assumed that the the Electoral College could be used to sort out a bad election outcome, but in the two centuries of the Republics history it has never been used that way. It has always been a rubber stamp.

I don't see Trump having support in his own party to change this either. He may have rank and file support, but the Republican Leadership has always been opposed to him. They won't go along with it. The Electors and the State Legislatures would have to break ranks, and that is not going to happen barring a Christmas fucking miracle.

Then they can say goodbye to Georgia runoffs, goodbye to winning back the Presidency within our lifetime and goodbye to their own seats looking at what is happening to Georgia and Arizona.

If leadershop want to be ostriches sticking their head in the sand then they deserve whatever the democrats will do in rigging future elections.

 

[HumanHive]

Uhh sorry buddy there is a big difference. If the US government decides to censor you, you can't do anything about it. If Google or Twitter decide to censor you, you can just use a different service or make your own.

JUST MAKE YOUR OWN GLOBAL FINANCIAL SYSTEM

 

[Jarolleon]

It would also piss off that faggot Brennan, so win-win.


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I like the second one. It looks like it is about to eat the donkey and elephant.

Then all the "scientific" types can come out of the woodwork about how overrated lions are, and they're basically the niggers of the animal kingdom.

Name a worst age, I challenge you

The Dark Ages, also called the Migration Period because modern historians overcompensate for the romanticism of 19th century history writers by making everything bone-dry. At least if you lived in Europe. You go from being overtaxed by a dysfunctional Late Roman government, to being the prize for a battle royale between repeated waves of barbarian warlords, drawn in by the push of the Steppe tribes and the pull of the power vacuum. Oh, and these guys wouldn't invent Noblesse Oblige until a few centuries later. At least so many people would be killed or displaced by the violence that wasn't enough population density left to spread a plague if you survived, so there's that.

 

[alreadyhome]

The Dark Ages, also called the Migration Period because modern historians overcompensate for the romanticism of 19th century history writers by making everything bone-dry. At least if you lived in Europe. You go from being overtaxed by a dysfunctional Late Roman government, to being the prize for a battle royale between repeated waves of barbarian warlords, drawn in by the push of the Steppe tribes and the pull of the power vacuum. Oh, and these guys wouldn't invent Noblesse Oblige until a few centuries later. At least so many people would be killed or displaced by the violence that wasn't enough population density left to spread a plague if you survived, so there's that.

I think it was cool if you were rich

 

[MrJokerRager]

I was watched the John Wayne movie The Green Berets today and it was a popular anti-communist movie at the time despite being cliche as fuck. All the boomers grew up in a pop culture that was heavy anti-communist. And yet here we are surrounded by commies.

Going back to the question of women in society. Stupidpol once talked about the mostly white upper middle class women since the industrial revolution who treated their middle and lower class compatriots with contempt. They are the ones who have almost destroyed the nuclear family and traditional roles of the mother in society. They are the ones who believe in that feminism bullshit as there was a poll a couple of years ago that a large majority of women do not identify as feminists.

The 19th amendment coincided with the rise of the Women's KKK that pushed for suffrage as well as leading false rape claims against black men. The 1910s and early 1920s era before Calvin Coolidge laid down the hammer on Jim Crow in the government was a crazy time socially and we living in the reverse since Trump removed CRT and Biden plans to reinstate that poison.

 

[ditto]

JUST MAKE YOUR OWN GLOBAL FINANCIAL SYSTEM

Had unironic suggestions that Bitcoin is this system and is a way to get from under "the man". To which the reply is

Spoiler

Expecting a surge of techbro grifters coming after Trump supporters selling webshit solutions to social and political problems.

 

[Jarolleon]

Defund, restructure, and reform the public K-12 school system. I've been screaming this at the void for years but that's probably the single most effective path to effective change under a government that's fully aiming to get its shit together. You wanna know who to blame for these last few generations' worth of spinelessness and idiocy? State governments, which pipeline the curriculums for public schools and universities, and the federal government by proxy in terms of actually funding them on the taxpayer's dime. Civics was removed from the K-12 curriculum in the 1960's and hasn't been reinstated since. You ever wonder why these kids are brainless and clueless when it comes to understanding how this government's republic works? School is deliberately made boring and a chore; the kids then fill their brains with other forms of entertainment like sports, menial work, or most often, pop culture. As a result, America's youth is not only underperforming compared to their international counterparts, but this sloth is encouraged by the pipeline and the ho-hum rote memorization routine baked into a holdover system from the Industrial Revolution meant to produce obedient, blue-collar workers. These demoralized kids are then fed straight into the current pozzed university system, creating more consumers to take on student debt, helping to keep higher education on life support.

If you want to more directly address demoralization, completely pull the plug on Hollywood and the current mainstream entertainment industry. It's past the point of salvaging and anyone with three functioning brain cells should realize it's a blatant propaganda machine with direct political ties to Washington D.C. and the military industrial complex. You think it's any sort of coincidence that all these actors and celebrities are Democrat mouthpieces more often than not?

You want a real doompill? Here's a real doompill.

Things will only get "better" in a few decades if there's enough due diligence in moving forward to cleaning and reforming the institutions; McCarthy at the earliest from what I gather recognized Communist actors in play as early as the 1950's, and as others have noted with former California Governor Brown being a central cog in the Democrat machine operating as far back as the 60's as well, there are strong implications that American pop-culture has been pozzed for longer than most posters here have been alive. By extension, this suggests that Communist media influence has been felt throughout the world at least as far back beginning approximately 60 years ago.

How much effort do you think it'll take to undo all this damage? How much time? Months? Years? Decades? Whether it's real or not, some posters here have tried to convey arguments of fraud to their family members, friends, colleagues only to be met with a blank retort. I'd bet you top dollar that some of the most retarded contrarian trolls in this thread, compromising the majority of the fuckwits in the happenings thread, the entirety of the TES thread, hell, I'd go so far as to say that at least 70-80% of this entire forum's base is afflicted with some form of cognitive or ideological distortion, major or minor as a result of systemic unconscious Pavlovian conditioning from sources of Western origin.

The real issue is defining moral values, and that's the role religion and a core family unit were always intended to provide. Good fucking luck trying to build that back. The Civil Rights Movement of the 60's leading to the (intentional) rise of the puppet Religious Right was always intended to not only destroy but raze and torch that path back upwards. Infiltration of the LGBTQ+ movement into the Church. Check. Advocacy of feminism still going strong into its third and fourth wave incarnations already horribly mutated from its original stance. Check. Promotion of narcissism through language mutation (introduction of words like selfie, toxic, simp, etc. etc. into the modern vernacular), and the proliferation of platforms and apps that allow for and highlight narcissistic behavior (practically every social media platform and forum in existence, but especially including apps like TikTok (now relisted on the App Store despite it being very publicly delisted only two months ago), Instagram, Twitch, etc.). Check.

The fact that the Trumpists are flocking to alt tech with every intention to stay should be very worrying. People do hedge their bets, and are waiting for the moment the trifecta legacy media, tech conglomerates, and institutions fall so that once a power vacuum occurs, they'll be the ones to latch onto positions in whatever the new hierarchy's supposed to be. Astute RINOs aware of the power shift will play their cards wisely and keep their heads under the table waiting for an opportune moment to pop back up. Mass media proliferation will continue for a while with an alternative slant, only for the system to slowly rot yet again.

And on the international stage, certain global actors are readily waiting for certain countries to take the fall behind the scenes of this whole staged political drama to be able to swoop in and secure power and influence later.

Regardless of what happens during this election cycle, one thing is most definitely certain; you've have to be a complete sped to not realize that the definition of current day normalcy is a myth and that the status quo is about to irrevocably change.

The best way to prevent this election cycle drama from happening again is to pull the plug on practically everything you've known so far, and to accomplish that requires this whole election's results being turned on its head.
The catch?

That's probably what whoever masterminded this series of events intended.

You know how all the world's major religions appeared or were radically reformed during a period of urbanization known as the Axial Age? That's probably how this got so thorough, our old values weren't made for an industrial society, so all it took was a few well-organised and well-connected cultists to knock it down and fill the void with some bullshit.

Hell, I wonder if corporate globohomo bullshit is an attempt to reform liberal capitalism for the industrial age by grafting commie idiocy on to it (since that's the readily apparent industrial-age ideology). Maybe someone convinced them that communism only "failed" because it caught on in shithole countries and got co-opted by thugs, and even then they remained a viable opponent for the Western powers despite those same nations being complete jokes before. Kind of like how Julian tried to reform Hellenism with elements of Christianity (but died too early), or the Hindus successfully poached enough elements from Buddhism to remain a viable religion.

Edit: Either that or it's literally just boomers growing up on subverted movies and internalising the subtle messages, and the next century got decided by a KGB office getting one-in-a-million luck. People in these threads like to believe in patterns and masterminds, but maybe we're just spergs and the world is ruled by nothing but chance. Maybe a coding error will cause the algorithm to promote far-right shit and we'll be ranting about how the CIA had engineered the rise of fascism with woke shit as the same jobber that the Religious Right was in a few decades.

 

[alreadyhome]

If you want to more directly address demoralization, completely pull the plug on Hollywood and the current mainstream entertainment industry.

How? Do you mean as an individual, or in another sense?

 

[awoo]

I don't see Trump having support in his own party to change this either. He may have rank and file support, but the Republican Leadership has always been opposed to him. They won't go along with it. The Electors and the State Legislatures would have to break ranks, and that is not going to happen barring a Christmas fucking miracle.

We know Trump is going to try everything he can but I really wish we could divine McConnell's plans. Mitch has more control over GOP in Congress and for longer, being able to obstruct Obama while pushing forward certain Trump policies like the tax cut. Publicly Mitch made statements on orderly timely transfer of power but also declined to congratulate Biden which is an implicit support of challenging the election. If Mitch wants rank and file Republicans to challenge the election, he has top down power to do so. He has kept quiet on it but there is always a lot going on behind the scenes. I've read several fake news articles that were nonetheless impressed that McConnell managed to speed through the Trump impeachment trial in only two weeks.

You can't help but admire the guy when Dems write articles like Mitch sitting on the throne of skulls and Biden beat Trump but now faces the final boss: Mitch McConnell

 

[Mexican_Wizard_711]

I've never said anything positive about Trump. Obviously, his 2016 platform would have been good for Americans, had he tried to implement it. Pity, but hey, that explains how he lost.

ACTING LIKE A CHILD TO OWN THE LIBS

Clearly that will happen. After all, Obama didn't charge Assange, wheras Trump had him dragged from a relative place of safety and is trying to put him in solitary for the rest of his life.

Trump had the CIA work with one of his bosses, Sheldon Adelson, to spy on Assange and steal his baby's diapers, but clearly, he will pardon Assange to own Obama EPICLY.

If you think that Assange will be pardoned you're literally retarded. Flynn was pardoned because his talk with the Russians was an intervention on behalf of the Zionist entity, and he still had to wait years, wheras Assange has worked against Trump's bosses..

Take Your Meds, Schizo