Jerry Peet / Lily Orchard / Lily Peet / Valkyrstudios / Bhaalspawn / Tara Callie / "Mod Ebara" - Sociopath writer of pedophile fanfiction and cartoon reviews, faked getting raped to force a divorce, then mobbed and gaslit their ex off Tumblr, satanist neoliberal of the MovieSlob variety, also wants to fuck dogs and/or pokemon

[Suck the Cock]

Why do these things always happen when I'm about to start my final exams?

Still the news that Lizzy was actually the one abused and that Lizzy is facing mass backlash is nothing new, though it's surprising that she finally decided after two years that Jerry spreading lies about her being the Wicked Witch of the Weast wasn't something that she should stand for, especially when the rumors Jerry constantly spreads could potentially cost her business in the form of art commissions. Plus, I mean, we told her this would happen lmfao

Good that she's speaking out but heck, about time. Lmao

Honestly though I don't expect a whole lot to come of this, Lizzy doesn't have a huge platform and she doesn't have the same community-backing that Jerry does, not to mention she's outright said that her only intention is to simply tell her story and not start any kind of mob, which, unfortunately, already means this is going to end in failure, and possibly end up worse on her if Jerry can successfully spin it to his advantage. Lizzy says herself:

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And that's 100% true. Remember when Josh made his video back in 2016? The response from Jerry's fans (and Lizzy herself) was to automatically send messages of encouragement to Jerry because he was being "bombarded" by that evil scorchy dude, without any regard for what was actually said in the video. My thoughts are that this is going to be done again, regardless of what's said or brought forward. I'm pretty sure this happened with Patchwork too, when it was revealed that Jerry treated Patchwork like shit and banned them from his discord because they threw self-pity parties, despite Jerry making videos about how much Patchwork needed money.



Refer to what I said earlier, "Lizzy doesn't have a huge platform and she doesn't have the same community-backing that Jerry does, not to mention she's outright said that her only intention is to simply tell her story and not start any kind of mob, which, unfortunately, already means this is going to end in failure, and possibly end up worse on her if Jerry can successfully spin it to his advantage."

It's sad to admit, but Jerry is practically bulletproof in his own circle. He can pen outright pedophilia between his child OCs, flash his dudetits on a youtube stream, say whatever he wants about anyone he wants, even his own fans, and everyone who enables him will still treat him like a victim. It's an incredibly absurd cult of personality, and I've noticed that a lot of Jerry's fans like to put him "first", as their "primary" content creator. Take solace, at least, that nobody really likes him outside of his own circle. So even this isn't going to convince anyone who has already taken a side, heck, even if Lizzy has receipts, because we know how prone Jerry is to claiming everything negative about him was dudeipulated or doctored in some way.

And that's not even accounting for the possibility that Jerry makes a video response to whatever she says.

It's important to remember that it's not that Jerry is uniquely capable of holding an audience, but that the audience is uniquely selected to stay with Jerry against all odds. It might seem meaningless, but it matters. It's pretty much impossible to create internet content at the rate Jerry has for 10 years and not get a couple thousand stans who happen to fit your exact profile. Jerry isn't bulletproof, he's taken like 5 bullets to his limbs and now he's a cripple living on life support. When it comes to internet popularity, consistency is the same as a death-knell. Any new drama is going to hurt him because it dissuades new fans from coming in. Jerry's fans are to him what Jerry is to MovieBob, what MovieBob is to actual e-celebs. Someone so pathetic they actually look up to someone who is still considered a joke by any reasonable person. It's unreasonable to expect them to stop being fans if they're already that pathetic.

 

[Unit 765]

How long do you think it's gonna take until Lizzy speaks? At this point I'm just wait for Lily to have a Chernobyl level meltdown.

 

[Campbell-Duo]

How long do you think it's gonna take until Lizzy speaks? At this point I'm just wait for Lily to have a Chernobyl level meltdown.

Probably a week or so.
At the latest probably after the holidays.
Its a big deal to her probably, finally speaking out about the abuse your ex has lied about for years.

 

[Unit 765]

Probably a week or so.
At the latest probably after the holidays.
Its a big deal to her probably, finally speaking out about the abuse your ex has lied about for years.

Yeah probably. But at this point with it being near the end of the year, I'm gonna want it to end with a bang. As in, drink the tears of Lily's anger.

 

[Unit 765]

Probably a week or so.
At the latest probably after the holidays.
Its a big deal to her probably, finally speaking out about the abuse your ex has lied about for years.

Also @Davidson_duo like your icon.

 

[Duine In Cudromach]

re: Lily's writing not improving -- Yeah, I know she doesn't care. Like I said, she obviously doesn't read so she doesn't pick up any habits from what she reads, good or bad (bad habits can at least be fun to read-- the Eye of Argon is objectively terrible but it's so much fun). It's not just the prose, either; her dialogue is terrible. I can totally understand having middle of the road or even bad prose writing but still having an enjoyable story and characters, but nothing about Lily's writing is fun to read and it hasn't improved at all ove the years.

The parallel between the incest kink admissions was brought up, but I noticed earlier that when Rainbow Dash admitted she was gay, her dialogue sounded almost exactly like Aliana's when she tells Rey that she's gay. (I also had to struggle to remember that it was Dash who said it because these characters have no individual voices and I'm still not convinced I'm remembering properly, only that I couldn't be thinking of anybody else.) Even accounting for just watching movies and cartoons you'd think she'd pick up a few techniques, but all I ever see is that sometimes she references a line or steals a scene. Again, for an analyst, she really doesn't seem capable of understanding why things work, only that they do.

I think this is why people found her writing tips so insulting.
She only cares about certain things in writing, and has been writing those same things for years.
So when she publicly talks down to people about how her preferences are better and how she's any kind of authority on writing, it's like taking a fart to the face.

Exactly. If Lily were just somebody on the Internet writing terrible stories within an isolated fanbase it would be one thing, but she writes terrible stories (really only one story, over and over), her writing style does nothing to elevate them, the thing she's most proud of (her dialogue) is equally uninteresting when it's not being terrible, and of course she's a hypocrite who rarely follows her own advice and makes excuses when it's pointed out. She has the temerity to say 'I'm a damn good writer' when all the evidence proves otherwise and then wields her self-appointed authority so she can talk down to people.

Although my personal problem is less that this idiot is trying to tell me how to write and more that she's telling her fans -- who are young writers looking for advice -- how to write according to her specifications and rules. I have enough experience to know that Lily's full of crap, but impressionable new writers trying to adjust their writing to Lily's tastes, or only writing to suit Lily's tastes to start with, or being told to give up because their idea is against her tastes, is just a tragedy.

 

[The Iconoclast]

It's important to remember that it's not that Jerry is uniquely capable of holding an audience, but that the audience is uniquely selected to stay with Jerry against all odds. It might seem meaningless, but it matters.

...that's honestly a distinction without a difference though, without getting too into it (as into it as I normally would), the main point I'm making is that he's still around. He's done such shitty things to people that would've cost most other creators their entire online careers and their presences, but of course, not Jerry. He's good at convincing his fans (and the occasional neutral observer) that he's always the victim or that he's right about something, and his fans are so weak-willed and pathetic that they'll entertain it every single time.

Either way, Jerry is very likely not gonna go down from this. Lol

It'll be the same process as it has been every time,
Accuser makes claim about Jerry
Jerry reverses claim and makes himself the victim
Rabid fanbase rushes to defend Jerry and flame accuser
Accuser backs down or loses interest in pursuing

It's happened literally every single time lol, look at Josh, Brittany, BITE, hell, even Sarah Z

I think this is why people found her writing tips so insulting.
She only cares about certain things in writing, and has been writing those same things for years.
So when she publicly talks down to people about how her preferences are better and how she's any kind of authority on writing, it's like taking a fart to the face.

TBF that's assuming most of those people even knew who he was to begin with lol, but from what I saw, everyone seemed to have quickly caught on that this was less objective tips for improving your writing and more his personal preference for what he likes to see in stories that you must conform to

I never got to ridicule some of the tips in this thread, so why not now since it was brought up

Spoilered to avoid clutter

Spoiler: Mocking Jerry's tips

Ah yes, how on earth can I be a great writer without considering the fact that you think X movie and Y movie is more feminist than Z movie

Ah yes, how on earth can I be a great writer without considering the fact that you prefer X genre over Y genre
(This is entirely his preference because slice of life is absolutely not more popular than action adventure lmfao)

Agreeable BUT
https://archive.fo/2TACR, https://archive.fo/czVfB, https://archive.fo/3Bpyf Maybe don't write a story where you forgive your own rapist, Jerry :^)

Also

Weird thing to combine with 83. What if an oppressed person was to rape their oppressor? Would it still be justified, Jerry? Why do you support rape, Jerry?

 

[Chapter Master Tu'Shan]

...that's honestly a distinction without a difference though, without getting too into it (as into it as I normally would), the main point I'm making is that he's still around. He's done such shitty things to people that would've cost most other creators their entire online careers and their presences, but of course, not Jerry. He's good at convincing his fans (and the occasional neutral observer) that he's always the victim or that he's right about something, and his fans are so weak-willed and pathetic that they'll entertain it every single time.

Either way, Jerry is very likely not gonna go down from this. Lol

It'll be the same process as it has been every time,
Accuser makes claim about Jerry
Jerry reverses claim and makes himself the victim
Rabid fanbase rushes to defend Jerry and flame accuser
Accuser backs down or loses interest in pursuing

It's happened literally every single time lol, look at Josh, Brittany, BITE, hell, even Sarah Z


TBF that's assuming most of those people even knew who he was to begin with lol, but from what I saw, everyone seemed to have quickly caught on that this was less objective tips for improving your writing and more his personal preference for what he likes to see in stories that you must conform to

I never got to ridicule some of the tips in this thread, so why not now since it was brought up

Spoilered to avoid clutter

Spoiler: Mocking Jerry's tips

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Ah yes, how on earth can I be a great writer without considering the fact that you think X movie and Y movie is more feminist than Z movie

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Ah yes, how on earth can I be a great writer without considering the fact that you prefer Slice of Life over Action/Adventure

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Agreeable BUT
https://archive.fo/2TACR, https://archive.fo/czVfB, https://archive.fo/3Bpyf Maybe don't write a story where you forgive your own rapist, Jerry :^)

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Weird thing to combine with 83. What if an oppressed person was to rape their oppressor? Would it still be justified, Jerry? Why do you support rape, Jerry?

It kind of is a distinction that matters
Because it isn't just that Lily is good at convincing her audience of her innocence
She very deliberately cultivated this audience of mindlessly rabid yes-men, and even openly admitted to making certain videos and posts specifically to drive away undesirable viewers

Lily's entire list is pretty much the definition of Author Appeal, but Rule 62 is just a blatantly dangerous mindset
A complete Card Blanche to absolve people of any kind of moral responsibility and accountability on the nebulous basis of being "oppressed", would be fucked up even if it came from someone who didn't openly fantasize about commiting genocide against people she doesn't like.

 

[Suck the Cock]

...that's honestly a distinction without a difference though, without getting too into it (as into it as I normally would), the main point I'm making is that he's still around. He's done such shitty things to people that would've cost most other creators their entire online careers and their presences, but of course, not Jerry. He's good at convincing his fans (and the occasional neutral observer) that he's always the victim or that he's right about something, and his fans are so weak-willed and pathetic that they'll entertain it every single time.

Either way, Jerry is very likely not gonna go down from this. Lol

It'll be the same process as it has been every time,
Accuser makes claim about Jerry
Jerry reverses claim and makes himself the victim
Rabid fanbase rushes to defend Jerry and flame accuser
Accuser backs down or loses interest in pursuing

It's happened literally every single time lol, look at Josh, Brittany, BITE, hell, even Sarah Z

You missed the point. You can't kill a content creator. People who have been in this game as long as Jerry almost always have more fans than Jerry has, even if they suck. All that matters is you keep producing content. People who go through massive controversies and lose practically their entire fanbase? Well...key word is "practically", they can still kick around if they want. Jerry's been kicked off multiple platforms multiple times, his channel is stagnant and actually losing subs. His name is toxic, so new fans know to avoid him. How much more dead do you want him? He can't be literally kicked off the internet. Any other content creator who had something "cost their careers" could have continued going, they just didn't see the point in being a pariah. That's the only difference, Jerry still somehow thinks he can be the good guy in the end.

 

[The Iconoclast]

This is just splitting hairs at this point, Jerry knows how to cultivate his audience, his audience is mindlessly loyal to him (as Lizzy even pointed out). Both lead to the same conclusion: People won't be turning against him because of this. It'll honestly only really convince people who have already picked a side that their side is the right one.

I mean, this shouldn't be a debate. Lol

They were made for each other, the end.

I was also gonna point out that we should avoid needless bickering and check if Jerry's said anything about this, but his ask page is still 404'd lol

 

[ShiftyBoi]

This is just splitting hairs at this point, Jerry knows how to cultivate his audience, his audience is mindlessly loyal to him (as Lizzy even pointed out). Both lead to the same conclusion: People won't be turning against him because of this. It'll honestly only really convince people who have already picked a side that their side is the right one.

I mean, this shouldn't be a debate. Lol

They were made for each other, the end.

I was also gonna point out that we should avoid needless bickering and check if Jerry's said anything about this, but his ask page is still 404'd lol

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Man Lily sure lucked out that she got rid of asks like a week before Lizzy decided to finally go public.

I mean did the stab wound comment really set her off that much or was she tipped off or something? Because I can't imagine an actual two sided exchange from Lily when it comes to actual abuse allegations.

 

[ColdArmadillo288]

re: Lily's writing not improving -- Yeah, I know she doesn't care. Like I said, she obviously doesn't read so she doesn't pick up any habits from what she reads, good or bad (bad habits can at least be fun to read-- the Eye of Argon is objectively terrible but it's so much fun). It's not just the prose, either; her dialogue is terrible. I can totally understand having middle of the road or even bad prose writing but still having an enjoyable story and characters, but nothing about Lily's writing is fun to read and it hasn't improved at all ove the years.

The parallel between the incest kink admissions was brought up, but I noticed earlier that when Rainbow Dash admitted she was gay, her dialogue sounded almost exactly like Aliana's when she tells Rey that she's gay. (I also had to struggle to remember that it was Dash who said it because these characters have no individual voices and I'm still not convinced I'm remembering properly, only that I couldn't be thinking of anybody else.) Even accounting for just watching movies and cartoons you'd think she'd pick up a few techniques, but all I ever see is that sometimes she references a line or steals a scene. Again, for an analyst, she really doesn't seem capable of understanding why things work, only that they do.


Exactly. If Lily were just somebody on the Internet writing terrible stories within an isolated fanbase it would be one thing, but she writes terrible stories (really only one story, over and over), her writing style does nothing to elevate them, the thing she's most proud of (her dialogue) is equally uninteresting when it's not being terrible, and of course she's a hypocrite who rarely follows her own advice and makes excuses when it's pointed out. She has the temerity to say 'I'm a damn good writer' when all the evidence proves otherwise and then wields her self-appointed authority so she can talk down to people.

Although my personal problem is less that this idiot is trying to tell me how to write and more that she's telling her fans -- who are young writers looking for advice -- how to write according to her specifications and rules. I have enough experience to know that Lily's full of crap, but impressionable new writers trying to adjust their writing to Lily's tastes, or only writing to suit Lily's tastes to start with, or being told to give up because their idea is against her tastes, is just a tragedy.

She’s rly not capable of being a good critic then - so why does anyone even listen to her? Can’t she just find another job?

Man Lily sure lucked out that she got rid of asks like a week before Lizzy decided to finally go public.

I mean did the stab wound comment really set her off that much or was she tipped off or something? Because I can't imagine an actual two sided exchange from Lily when it comes to actual abuse allegations.

Still don’t know whether to believe her when something happens to her like being stabbed, raped or having a heart attack

 

[Devil-Man]

Naturally he would get on this bandwagon.

https://archive.vn/3UpIJ

https://archive.vn/wFJaa

 

[TheAmbiguousLurker]

I love the accusations of the devs actively trying to give people seizures. Like, yes, of course, this company intentionally wants to risk law suits and their customers over... I dunno, hard on for flashing lights?

 

[ShiftyBoi]

I love the accusations of the devs actively trying to give people seizures. Like, yes, of course, this company intentionally wants to risk law suits and their customers over... I dunno, hard on for flashing lights?

I know it's so fucking stupid. Like all it takes to fix is a patch that lowers the gamma.
There was an episode of pokemon that did the same thing, hell the Incredibles 2 had a similar controversy like 2 years ago.
This doesn't mean the company hates disabled people, it just means it didn't occur to anyone on the dev team that flashing lights can have adverse effects on epileptics.

 

[Typical Anime Trap]

https://archive.md/FPBZh

I can't exactly put into words how I feel about this but it's telling.

 

[thebananaonion]

https://archive.md/FPBZh
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I can't exactly put into words how I feel about this but it's telling.

'ohhh shut up, woman' was my first response.

I think its safe to say she knows about lizzy twitter thread. Ooh boy get the popcorn

 

[starborn427614]

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I can't exactly put into words how I feel about this but it's telling.

Rape lacks consent. This is just another form of gaslighting and self-victimisation on Lily's part.

 

[Duine In Cudromach]

Rape lacks consent. This is just another form of gaslighting and self-victimisation on Lily's part.

Coercing and guilting somebody into consent is still a form of rape. "You'd sleep with me if you loved me." "Get to bed or I will leave you." They say yes, but only because you're holding something over them.

That said, Lily, fuck off. People have all kinds of different kinks and different fantasies they like to play out and if two consenting adults decide to try some spicy roleplay what's it to you? Nobody's getting hurt. You can try to police people's writing style all you like but you've got less than zero right to tell them what to do in the privacy of their own home, let alone bedroom. You can't convince everybody that they're pillow talk has to be about how they wish they were siblings.

Never mind you have a long documented history of bragging about how great you are at sex and how much Lizzy loved it and how you got frustrated that she didn't initiate sex enough and you had to be the one to take initiative and convince--

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Oh.

 

[starborn427614]

Coercing and guilting somebody into consent is still a form of rape. "You'd sleep with me if you loved me." "Get to bed or I will leave you." They say yes, but only because you're holding something over them.

That said, Lily, fuck off. People have all kinds of different kinks and different fantasies they like to play out and if two consenting adults decide to try some spicy roleplay what's it to you? Nobody's getting hurt. You can try to police people's writing style all you like but you've got less than zero right to tell them what to do in the privacy of their own home, let alone bedroom. You can't convince everybody that they're pillow talk has to be about how they wish they were siblings.

Never mind you have a long documented history of bragging about how great you are at sex and how much Lizzy loved it and how you got frustrated that she didn't initiate sex enough and you had to be the one to take initiative and convince--

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... ...
Oh.

Shit, you're right. That's a big fail on my part.