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JustStop released a video calling out Pyro and some of the top commentary ppl who said useless shit and spread misinformation.

PrisonMateLuke was the worst offender, unsurprising. Glad JS also took a pot shot at DieselPatches, because his fans can be pure AIDS at times and he’s gotten some shit wrong.
Beast Machines Megatron said:
As for UK law like somebody mentioned here before he hasn't got a leg to stand on no matter how he tries to frame it's way too clear what the intention here was grooming or no grooming, this isn't just him using Curse words in the sense of insults or something this is full blown sexual communication about... fat dragon vore sex to somebody who should not have been spoken too about fat dragon vore sex.

Something I also want to mention is that there is no statute of limitations for crimes like the nature of pyros so unless he bails out of the UK at this point he'll probably face legal action at some point whether it be sooner or later should ivory or the appropriate people notify the relevant law enforcement in the UK about this.
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If Ivory presses charges for this, it’s useless. He wasn’t groomed nor asked to send photos of himself.

if anything, Pyro is gonna just be looked at as a degenerate creep from now on, unless he actually apologizes for his actions and stays off the platform for a while.
 
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Grape_Soda said:
JustStop released a video calling out Pyro and some of the top commentary ppl who said useless shit and spread misinformation.

PrisonMateLuke was the worst offender, unsurprising. Glad JS also took a pot shot at DieselPatches, because his fans can be pure AIDS at times and he’s gotten some shit wrong.

If Ivory presses charges for this, it’s useless. He wasn’t groomed nor asked to send photos of himself.

if anything, Pyro is gonna just be looked at as a degenerate creep from now on, unless he actually apologizes for his actions and stays off the platform for a while.
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I mean he could still serve a maximum of 2 years in prison based on UK law seeing as it was still sexual communication.

Also pyro definitely has the money to stay off the platform for a while the question is will he do the smart thing and apologize and I mean truly apologize and take a break from the platform or will he try to pull a Mini ladd?
 
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Grape_Soda said:
If Ivory presses charges for this, it’s useless. He wasn’t groomed nor asked to send photos of himself.
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If Niall was actually into Ivory, wouldn't it have escalated beyond just furry ERP? It's a question that I keep asking myself. If he was really asking Ivory sexual questions about himself, Niall's fucked. The reason I say this is because quite a few people argued that Ivory was just a vehicle for furry ERP, and that was it despite being morally reprehensible. If it went beyond that, it is illegal.
 
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Considering the shit going on, I think I would maybe throw my two cents into this.

I see both sides are pretty guilty of each other. On one hand yes pyro screwed up by not even attempting to ask the age of Ivory/Knew about the age of Ivory and kept going at the ERP anyway. Ivory on the other hand kind of asked for this due to him actively seeking out sexual activity and going into places he should have not even thought of going to in the first place and at his age he definitely knows he should not have done so. To claim pyro was grooming is a bit of a maybe? he probably instilled fetishes into Ivory but was not downright asking him for sending nudes of any sorts. But that is probably the best argument I could ever come up with looking at the evidence and what people are saying as well. Pyro is just a degenerate idiot who would put his personal pleasures in front of any reasoning while Ivory is also a clout chasing douchebag who probably knew he was equally as guilty yet tried to spin it he was completely innocent.

TLDR both sides are idiotic faggots

EDIT: goddamn auto correct
 
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If Ivory does take action against Pyro it probably wont do him any good. There is already mentions of Ivory doing this with other men and actively seeking out adults to ERP with. So if he goes "Pyro is a pedophile" the courts can just say "well you already admitted to ERPing with other older men and not telling them your age at the time" so it would fuck up his case.
 
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Dark Krystal said:
Turkiest tom and pyro 2: Electric boogaloo
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Yeeted due to YouTube changing their mind on monetization. I can vouch that any demonetization kills algorithm spread, but optics are a thing and the people defending Pyro are no doubt going to spin this as proof it's all bullshit for money.
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I was able to watch it in full before Tom pulled it. It's largely a retread of his document, including the flaws in his arguments which Nick The Oreo went over with Tom during his stream about the doc. Flaws like Tom saying Pyro not seeing Ivory tweet about being 15 is a factor in whether Pyro is lying about not knowing Ivory's age. When it's perfectly reasonable that Pyro wouldn't have seen those tweets because he was suspended from Twitter when Ivory was posting those. You can argue Ivory's tweets about his age help debunk the still evidenceless claim he lied about his age. You can argue that it's insultingly stupid for Pyro to suggest that being banned from Twitter somehow prevented him from ever learning Ivory was 15. But unless someone comes forward with Discord DMs of one of those tweets being shared with Pyro (where he could see the message via link embed) you can't say he must have seen them. Tom really needs to tighten up his points.

The most interesting new piece of information he brings to the table is a screencap of Discord DMs between Pyro and Thafnine (another British YouTuber) in June 2017. Pyro was asking Thaf how to run a script to mass delete Discord messages. I didn't get a screencap of it in the video since I didn't know it would get pulled. Looking through the Ivory DMs I found Pyro was asking Ivory to help delete his messages in their DMs around that same time. This was about seven months before he was freaking out about the possibility of his degeneracy getting leaked.
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Yeeted due to YouTube changing their mind on monetization. I can vouch that any demonetization kills algorithm spread, but optics are a thing and the people defending Pyro are no doubt going to spin this as proof it's all bullshit for money.
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I was able to watch it in full before Tom pulled it. It's largely a retread of his document, including the flaws in his arguments which Nick The Oreo went over with Tom during his stream about the doc. Flaws like Tom saying Pyro not seeing Ivory tweet about being 15 is a factor in whether Pyro is lying about not knowing Ivory's age. When it's perfectly reasonable that Pyro wouldn't have seen those tweets because he was suspended from Twitter when Ivory was posting those. You can argue Ivory's tweets about his age help debunk the still evidenceless claim he lied about his age. You can argue that it's insultingly stupid for Pyro to suggest that being banned from Twitter somehow prevented him from ever learning Ivory was 15. But unless someone comes forward with Discord DMs of one of those tweets being shared with Pyro (where he could see the message via link embed) you can't say he must have seen them. Tom really needs to tighten up his points.

The most interesting new piece of information he brings to the table is a screencap of Discord DMs between Pyro and Thafnine (another British YouTuber) in June 2017. Pyro was asking Thaf how to run a script to mass delete Discord messages. I didn't get a screencap of it in the video since I didn't know it would get pulled. Looking through the Ivory DMs I found Pyro was asking Ivory to help delete his messages in their DMs around that same time. This was about seven months before he was freaking out about the possibility of his degeneracy getting leaked.
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So this is still a big nothingburger?
 
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Velcheetah said:
but optics are a thing and the people defending Pyro are no doubt going to spin this as proof it's all bullshit for money.
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In regards to optics, it's a losing battle on Niall's side. The whole subreddit seems to be changing their opinion, Niall would have to make quite the response to fix this mess. He really shouldn't have made that bullshit response, he could've gotten away with it if he just let his fans make an example out of anyone who speaks out. I look forward to the other people that might come out with their stories.
 
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As an outsider looking in and having done the on and off, 'rp :3', (i fall under the descriptive grouping, basically tabletop), this whole mess could have been avoided if pyro kept to the no man rule. Stay to a character, keep shit third person and never go full retard/self insert, if he did do that, then i'm not sure how to look at it, yet again. Personally, I dont see this as grooming, not really. If he knew the person's age, should have stopped all ERP or skipped it, He's an idiot for not asking as well, especially when doing furry shit, that's usually degenerate from start. One part of me understands the accusation of grooming, but on the other hand, I personally have seen plenty of, obviously underage or brain dead teen ERP starters by kids intentionally encroaching into adult spaces , some complete with selfies. I'm not going to blame the victim here, as both definitely are at fault, but there really should be a point where a 15yo or 18- decides to stay in their age group or just not dabble in sexual anything.

I don't know, this is all so stupid and im not sure how to feel about it.
 
Beast Machines Megatron said:
I mean he could still serve a maximum of 2 years in prison based on UK law seeing as it was still sexual communication.
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You think Ivory could afford a lawyer? Those literal motherfuckers cost a pretty coin. Not saying that Ivory shouldn't, just trying to figure out why he outed Pyro now and what's the end goal of it all is.

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I see both sides are pretty guilty of each other.

On one hand yes pyro screwed up by not even attempting to ask the age of Ivory/Knew about the age of Ivory and kept going at the ERP anyway.

Ivory on the other hand kind of asked for this due to him actively seeking out sexual activity and going into places he should have not even thought of going to in the first place and at his age he definitely knows he should not have done so.

TLDR both sides are idiotic faggots
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Honestly this is a good summary of the thread.

Beast Machines Megatron said:
Also pyro definitely has the money to stay off the platform for a while the question is will he do the smart thing and apologize and I mean truly apologize and take a break from the platform or will he try to pull a Mini ladd?
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He'll probably stay quiet. He doesn't have the issue of "Never shutting the fuck up" in previous drama that was aimed at him.
Systemic Shock said:
If Niall was actually into Ivory, wouldn't it have escalated beyond just furry ERP? It's a question that I keep asking myself. If he was really asking Ivory sexual questions about himself, Niall's fucked. The reason I say this is because quite a few people argued that Ivory was just a vehicle for furry ERP, and that was it despite being morally reprehensible. If it went beyond that, it is illegal.
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I think Pyro was just being flirty with the RP'ing and such....I'd say his girlfriend is kinda questionable to shove her face into this drama and talking about how "Pyro probably nutted to that" to Ivory. That was fucking weird.
 
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Ivory just comes off more of a fucking retard if anything and did a lot of fuck ups explaining the story. The problem is for now it's a lot of he said she said on twitter accounts saying "Ivory lied about their age" or "Ivory always disclosed their age". Also I'm not pyro so I can't speak on his behalf but it just seems odd that he never really bothered checking the twitter link or anything sent to him through discord, I could understand maybe ignoring it because he was suspended but I mean you can still check out twitter accounts and shit logged out unless Ivory locked their account. Pyro's GF on the other hand really isn't doing favors is making pyro's image clean. I don't know, maybe this is a dumbass gayops 4d chess game from Ivory and Pyro's GF trying to ruin his image as much as possible or some dumb shit. Wouldn't be the first time a circle he was involved with did something as stupid, just look at the whole Slazo bs. Pyro still comes off as a creep regardless.
 
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FilthyOpossum said:
Has anyone found a degen Pyro alt? If he had an OC then i'd be willing to bet he'd have an account on furaffinity or something
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This, I'm really curious to see what other art he's had made for him, beyond what we've seen and what I've shown
 
The real scary thing about this is that there is many many furries who do the exact shame shit but none are notable enough for anyone to really care. The grooming of teenagers is super normalized in the furry community with minors openly posting porn, being sent porn, and doing erp with adults. Pyro is frankly on the low end of furry grooming which says alot about horny culture in the furry fandom.
 
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