Manosphere Marijan Šiklić (ThatIncelBlogger) 2: The Revenge

[Marjan Šiklić]

See kids, it's a-ok for a guy to rape a woman in Holden's mind.

Not every woman in every context.

But to be given a woman like a sack of potatoes? THAT'S DRAWING THE DAMN LINE!

Also, this shouldn't be banned in all cases. I like the idea of feminist ideologue women being bought and sold by businessmen as livestock sexual slaves.

 

[Owlflaps]

Just face some fucking facts - WOMEN WITHOUT PATRIARCHY LOVE RAPE. AND TO THOSE THAT DON'T THERE IS NO PROTECTION FROM RAPE WITHOUT PATRIARCHY.

Man, it's like he's trying to convince us that's he's right.

Is there a source for this, Marj?

 

[Marjan Šiklić]

Is there a source for this?

A good confirmation would be those hilarious Slut Walks, where crazy people are trying to convince sane ones that raping sluts is somehow bad.

 

[Owlflaps]

A good confirmation would be those hilarious Slut Walks, where crazy people are trying to convince sane ones that raping sluts is somehow bad.

...You realize it's about rape victims and slut shaming, correct? The statement of a slutwalk is to teach people that no blame should be placed on a person who has been sexually assaulted regardless of what they wear, how they act, etc.

You still aren't providing a valid source.

 

[4Macie]

Macie - some fact checking. Fschmidt merely said (to an extremely rude, sick question on whether he'd give me his daughter, asked because you're idiots) that he wouldn't because he doesn't know me well enough.

Completely reasonable answer, though more reasonable act would be to tell you you're insane.

You have no idea about our views and think we want women to be given like a sack of potatoes.

At the same moment, you would be absolutely ok with your son being jailed for inflicting pain to women by not raping them, simply because you admit you cannot get over the 1955 norms you helped to destroy. You want men jailed for not killing women.

You want men to actually hurt women by not raping them and killing them, simply because you're stuck in some aspects of the world that existed 100 years ago. A world you hated and helped destroy.

Just face some fucking facts - WOMEN WITHOUT PATRIARCHY LOVE RAPE. AND TO THOSE THAT DON'T THERE IS NO PROTECTION FROM RAPE WITHOUT PATRIARCHY.

You're not in jail bitch; if you weren't a rapist, you would be in jail.

If my son raped someone, I would beat the shit out of him and report his ass to the police.

And you COMPLETELY missed the point and are trying to misdirect everyone.

You said I couldn't provide a single lie you've ever said about your life. I presented everyone with several. You can't even disprove ONE.
And instead of admitting it, and admitting you lie all the fucking time, you try and steam roll some random shit about rape and what not.

You say "all you guys talk about is rape!!! and sex!!!' and here I was, minding my own business, talking about your LIES... and you bring up rape and sex rants.

Stop being so sexually obsessed you turtlesloth.

 

[Roosechu]

Hi Holden, how's the evening over there?
Is meth cheap as usual?

 

[Marjan Šiklić]

You're not in jail bitch; if you weren't a rapist, you would be in jail.

My point all along.

If my son raped someone, I would beat the shit out of him and report his ass to the police.

So, it's even worse. You'd want your son to used in some dumb showcase trial to scare intelligent young men into being slaves?

You said I couldn't provide a single lie you've ever said about your life. I presented everyone with several.

I haven't even seen that post. Could you repeat it? It's best for my mental health that I haven't though, as anybody insane enough to claim they can even prove any is... well, pretty disturbing.

You say "all you guys talk about is rape!!! and sex!!!' and here I was, minding my own business, talking about your LIES...

Let me check those "lies". They won't be there, unlike your lie about fschmidt you don't even try to disprove.

That you wouldn't have sex with your mother had she said yes.
You might not fuck her NOW; but you definitely would have fucked her then.
You wouldn't call her a murderous whore for refusing to have sex with you if you weren't going to fuck her.
You wouldn't have asked THREE TIMES had you not wanted to do it.

So, this is what you call "evidence"?

Let's examine your reasoning

- It doesn't mean I would have actually gone along. There is, again, simply no way for you to prove or know that. I called her a murderous whore for various reasons.
- So what does it matter how many times I asked? How does that make it more serious? Again, another "just so" claim and no evidence to anybody who isn't a fucking retard,

And then the lies continue to pile up, like you omitting the fact that I told you to use Google Scholar to find more uses of the term.

That's why I'm saying. You'd destroy your son, you'd tell him to hurt women (because nothing hurts them like respect and kindness) and you'd laugh.

And that's all it amounts to, Macie.

You'd deny your son everything when it comes to modern Western skanks.

Do they want relationships? No, they will hate you if you even understand what these are.

Do they want consensual sex? No, they will hate you if you even understand what consent is.

So, why would you be against rape? Because you're delusional as fuck, that's why.

And that's all it amounts to, Macie.

You'd deny your son everything when it comes to modern Western skanks.

Do they want relationships? No, they will hate you if you even understand what these are.

Do they want consensual sex? No, they will hate you if you even understand what consent is.

So, why would you be against rape? Because you're delusional as fuck, that's why.

 

[sugoi-chan]

@Holden, truth time: how would you feel if (god forbid) you had a daughter and you came home one day to find her pinned down and being raped by a man? How would you react? Honest time - no propaganda, no bullshit studies, no soapboxing. You are a human being with human emotions and you walked into your house to find your daughter being brutally raped and it's very clear that she's in a great deal of pain and distress.

What would you do? I want honest introspection, not some jibbering rage post. I'm not going to believe any answer that is a sentence long or comes within the next couple of minutes.

 

[4Macie]

I posted a reply, but the internet glitched, thought it posted twice, deleted one...now they both be gone.

I can't be bothered to retype it.

SparkNote Version:

And then the lies continue to pile up, like you omitting the fact that I told you to use Google Scholar to find more uses of the term.

If you're the one saying there's studies, YOU are the one that have to provide it. You can't say "there's evidence, go look for it yourself". That's not how it works.

You'd deny your son everything when it comes to modern Western skanks.

Do they want relationships? No, they will hate you if you even understand what these are.

Do they want consensual sex? No, they will hate you if you even understand what consent is.

So, why would you be against rape? Because you're delusional as fuck, that's why.

As someone who actually lives in the USA, I can assure you there's only a couple hundred thousand skanks.
My child would learn that happiness is within and that they didn't need someone else to make them happy.
You one delusional as fuck. You actually think women want to be hurt and maimed. No one wants to be hurt. We are creatures that actively do anything we can to avoid being hurt.

 

[Fwiffo]

I posted a reply, but the internet glitched, thought it posted twice, deleted one...now they both be gone.

I can't be bothered to retype it.

SparkNote Version:

If you're the one saying there's studies, YOU are the one that have to provide it. You can't say "there's evidence, go look for it yourself". That's not how it works.


As someone who actually lives in the USA, I can assure you there's only a couple hundred thousand skanks.
My child would learn that happiness is within and that they didn't need someone else to make them happy.
You one delusional as fuck. You actually think women want to be hurt and maimed. No one wants to be hurt. We are creatures that actively do anything we can to avoid being hurt.

I don't believe he actually thinks these things. He's just a liar who liked winding people up with shock statements. Very mentally imbalanced, yes, but he's just spewing bullshit 95 percent of the time.

 

[Rin]

I don't believe he actually thinks these things. He's just a liar who liked winding people up with shock statements. Very mentally imbalanced, yes, but he's just spewing bullshit 95 percent of the time.

I think Holden is essentially the stereotypical Nice Guy gone bad. You know, the lonely, nerdy guy who constantly whines about how women "friendzone" him and only want to date jerks? Holden is just a more extreme version. He's gone past the stage of claiming to be "Nice;" he's decided that since women want jerks, then he's going to be one. Except he's taken things far more extreme than just "jerks," into straight-out rapist.

I also think he has some pretty twisted sexual fantasies that he doesn't actually intend to enact in the real world, but talks about online as a form of mental masturbation. Like, I don't think he would really try and make a woman have sex with a dog in order to control her. However, I do think he's aroused by the idea of degrading a woman to that extent, so he boasts about wanting to do it online. It's kind of like the difference between getting off to something in a porno and actually wanting to do it in real life. However, I wouldn't be surprised if some of it is something of a put-on; he's essentially exaggerating his beliefs in order to shock people, because he likes the idea of horrifying and upsetting others.

 

[Lalala]

And that's all it amounts to, Macie.

You'd deny your son everything when it comes to modern Western skanks.

Do they want relationships? No, they will hate you if you even understand what these are.

Do they want consensual sex? No, they will hate you if you even understand what consent is.

So, why would you be against rape? Because you're delusional as fuck, that's why.

This has been trod over so many damn times over the past nearly 2000 pages that any semblance of argument is beyond pointless.
So instead I'll just be immature and chuck out a reference for anyone who gets it, enjoy.

 

[Fareal]

This has been trod over so many damn times over the past nearly 2000 pages that any semblance of argument is beyond pointless.
So instead I'll just be immature and chuck out a reference for anyone who gets it, enjoy.

It is very like having a discussion about human mating strategies with Mr Flibble.

 

[Lalala]

It is very like having a discussion about human mating strategies with Mr Flibble.

"We can't possibly do THAT...who'd clean up the mess?"

 

[Saint]

Umm, my advice has destroyed several young men. It's a not a lot, but it did help. They just need to understand that they must stay in the West to find wives and that modern Western women are the best source for good wives.

Fixed that for you.

Yes, but Saint was claiming something else. Also, I did later clarify that this obviously wouldn't apply to books on things that would have no political bearing, like electronics.

No, Otaku answered the claim perfectly and you are deflecting from it.

I explained my situation very well.

Modern Western women are whorish monsters anybody can fuck.

You really don't explain it well.

Again, this just your opinion. Any proof? Please provide citation.

Macie - some fact checking. Fschmidt merely said (to an extremely rude, sick question on whether he'd give me his daughter, asked because you're idiots) that he wouldn't because he doesn't know me well enough.

Completely reasonable answer, though more reasonable act would be to tell you you're insane.

You have no idea about our views and think we want women to be given like a sack of potatoes.

At the same moment, you would be absolutely ok with your son being jailed for inflicting pain to women by not raping them, simply because you admit you cannot get over the 1955 norms you helped to destroy. You want men jailed for not killing women.

You want men to actually hurt women by not raping them and killing them, simply because you're stuck in some aspects of the world that existed 100 years ago. A world you hated and helped destroy.

Just face some fucking facts - WOMEN WITHOUT PATRIARCHY LOVE RAPE. AND TO THOSE THAT DON'T THERE IS NO PROTECTION FROM RAPE WITHOUT PATRIARCHY.

1: So the ONLY REASON is because he doesn't know you well enough, but he would otherwise?

2:You are the one who said that the government should supply wives to incel men.

3:How is NOT raping them inflicting pain? Do you have mental problems because ass backwards sentence doesn't make sense.

4: Women without patriarchy love rape? Again, where is the proof? You are spouting all this crap with no proof. This is all your opinion because you can't get laid without resorting to rape tactics.

And that's all it amounts to, Macie.

You'd deny your son everything when it comes to modern Western skanks.

Do they want relationships? No, they will hate you if you even understand what these are.

Do they want consensual sex? No, they will hate you if you even understand what consent is.

So, why would you be against rape? Because you're delusional as fuck, that's why.

None of this makes any sense. The only one delusional as fuck is you.

 

[supdup]

I don't believe he actually thinks these things. He's just a liar who liked winding people up with shock statements. Very mentally imbalanced, yes, but he's just spewing bullshit 95 percent of the time.

I believe this is true. I believe if he acting IRL the way he acts here, he'd either have his ass beaten to death or be in jail.

 

[deductionotaku]

I believe if he acting IRL the way he acts here, he'd either have his ass beaten to death or be in jail.

We already know he's really a coward away from the computer; he can't bring himself to tell his former friends he doesn't like them because then he'd be without the illusion of friendship and be truly alone - and that's much easier to do than half of his alleged accomplishments - plus he mad dogs so much he's probably frothing at the mouth while posting. Though by far the best proof is that he always sidesteps forms of the question "Do you discuss this stuff openly in an off-line setting?" The question now is: how much of his dogma does he really believe? Is he a simple closet case of delusions, or is he just trying to sound edgey online?

Unfortunately, unless someone starts stalking him, we're going to be without an answer.

 

[Emiya Kiwitsugu]

I'm sure this has been brought up at least fifty times prior, but I'll go anyway. If there's one thing that sort of confuses me about all of this, @Holden, it's the whole thing about women enjoying and wanting to be raped, and despising anything that inherently requires their consent... Then wouldn't it not be rape? That line of thinking always confused me when people claimed that some women liked to be raped, because it seemed somewhat of an oxymoron to want to do something that by definition you don't want to do. Rape is forced sex without the consent of the other partner(s). If they were all dressing like that intentionally to obtain such a reaction from men because they enjoy it for whatever reason, wouldn't it not be rape since that was entirely their intention from the beginning, and more like a really messed up roleplay? Wouldn't it sort of be the consentual sex that they apparently despise so much? I mean I guess you get to a more complicated definition of rape then. Is it rape if the rapist isn't aware if their victim is consenting or believes specifically they aren't, operating under the impression that they're raping the victim, but in reality the victim is actually entirely for it and consenting through the fact they willfully tried to get the rapist to think that they're raping them?

 

[Marjan Šiklić]

I'm sure this has been brought up at least fifty times prior, but I'll go anyway. If there's one thing that sort of confuses me about all of this, @Holden, it's the whole thing about women enjoying and wanting to be raped, and despising anything that inherently requires their consent... Then wouldn't it not be rape? That line of thinking always confused me when people claimed that some women liked to be raped, because it seemed somewhat of an oxymoron to want to do something that by definition you don't want to do. Rape is forced sex without the consent of the other partner(s). If they were all dressing like that intentionally to obtain such a reaction from men because they enjoy it for whatever reason, wouldn't it not be rape since that was entirely their intention from the beginning, and more like a really messed up roleplay? Wouldn't it sort of be the consentual sex that they apparently despise so much? I mean I guess you get to a more complicated definition of rape then. Is it rape if the rapist isn't aware if their victim is consenting or believes specifically they aren't, operating under the impression that they're raping the victim, but in reality the victim is actually entirely for it and consenting through the fact they willfully tried to get the rapist to think that they're raping them?

Hi Humanoid. Thanks for your civility.

Anyway, yeah, the question had already been asked and replied to. I guess I'd go on two axes

1. That rape isn't just a "lack of consent" but a carnal knowledge of a woman against her will. I use the common law definition.

2. That a woman can experience rape and see it as a satisfactory event later. Like if some virginal brainwashed feminist really fears rape but is then raped by a football player and falls in love with him.


Now imagine the insanity of some manginas here ! They claim that I raped some woman who called me on the phone to offer my sex just because I posted her pic on my blog but they can't explain why she wanted a relationship with me afterwards. They tried saying that it's cause she was afraid I'll post her stuff again, but the fact was that I deleted it and that I didn't try to find anything I might had left or tried to bluff. I stuck to our non-contact agreement, and she was the one who broke it.

Of course, I don't think I raped this woman (and neither does she, occasionally calling me "her rapist" to mock the crazies), but please note how these people are contradicting themselves in such a hilarious way. They'd always deny my point 2, yet it is according to their own claims.

My point being - feminists are mental patients.

 

[ON 190]

! They claim that I raped some woman who called me on the phone to offer my sex

It's worth noting that he threatened to call her home phone unless she had sex with him.

Just, you know, a minor detail.