Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[FROG]

Impressive.

You seem awfully proud that you were right about Donal. And only 3 years late and a fucked up crowdfund short.

Good for you.

Luke, you’re a mongoloid.

I’m talking about being right about Media Mail. I have no opinion about Donal except that he’s a factual cuck and owes Nasser money.

 

[Analog Devolved]

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Donal Delay encounters shipping problems with Brutas. Is this real or just an excuse?

I can't believe Ethan involved himself in this autistic slapfight.

Also you can't media mail a comic book its against the law.

Me -October 5th 2020.

@Fathead you fucking retard. I guess you should have listened to a random person on the internet called "Analog Devolved". FFS you charged $10 for shipping and tried to send it out for a fraction of that price. You were warned MANY times, even EVS told you not to use media mail and here we are.

Donal -DELAY- horrible businessman, complete tard. Donal claimed back on October 10th he was mailing all copies of Brutas out. 65 days and counting Donal...

Anyone who pays Donal after this is too stupid to have money.

Donal has figured out every conceivable way to waste Nasser's money. Here's a picture of Donal after Cecil pays him for Cash Grab.

Spoiler

 

[Absurdity]

Ethan plays Nasser.
Donal plays Nasser.
Donal plays customers.
Ethan & Nasser play Donal.

No matter how you cut it, someone's getting played @Scivergate. This is going to be fun to watch. Apologies to all who paid for Brutas.

 

[NasserRabadi13]

Month and a half ago he told me it was just a few international packages looks like now he's exposed himself as a liar again

 

[VIkkiVerse]

It’s especially interesting because about two months ago, I explained that using Media Mail would lead to this very problem, and Vikki retardedly told me I was wrong. Vociferously.

And you are still wrong. All it means is that postal inspectors aren't doing their jobs correctly. Shocker, that the same postal service that couldn't find my house even though I could see the post office from my kitchen window, would get something wrong.

Surprisingly, the only bit of real customer service Donal is offering is telling backers not to accept the package and force the post office to send it back to him so he can bring it up with his local post office because it does qualify as media mail.

 

[Newman's Own]

Luke, you’re a mongoloid.

I’m talking about being right about Media Mail. I have no opinion about Donal except that he’s a factual cuck and owes Nasser money.

And you are still wrong. All it means is that postal inspectors aren't doing their jobs correctly. Shocker, that the same postal service that couldn't find my house even though I could see the post office from my kitchen window, would get something wrong.

Surprisingly, the only bit of real customer service Donal is offering is telling backers not to accept the package and force the post office to send it back to him so he can bring it up with his local post office because it does qualify as media mail.

"Mongoloid"?

So much frog venom. You're REALLY passionate about the USPS tough guy.

Vikki's come back with another rebuttal about this fascinating subject. Go get 'er champ.

 

[jspit2.0]

And you are still wrong. All it means is that postal inspectors aren't doing their jobs correctly.

Dysfunction in the post office. Shocking.

Shocker, that the same postal service that couldn't find my house even though I could see the post office from my kitchen window, would get something wrong.

Boudica's wrath is not to be trifled with post man! Dogs will be called forth...

Surprisingly, the only bit of real customer service Donal is offering is telling backers not to accept the package and force the post office to send it back to him so he can bring it up with his local post office because it does qualify as media mail.

That is....convoluted.

But he's still Ditko. People like Ditko.

People don't know Steve Ditko. If they do he's the Spideyman guy.

They like his creations, and they're intrigued by his choice to be a recluse and not answer any questions.

He preferred to let his art speak independently. It left him in relative poverty and obscurity for his life. But hey, he had his principles.

 

[Newman's Own]

Anyway, Roiloup is trolling Mecha McDoofy. Maybe Mecha will register his outrage at his mistreatment by the dangerous and threatening "alt-right" again.

This was amusing.

 

[NasserRabadi13]

@Fathead you only "look bad defending yourself" if you're lying to defend yourself.

All I did was read your dms and tell people what happened. You made yourself look bad because you're a thief and a scumbag and you let your wife bang other men.

 

[Newman's Lovechild]

He preferred to let his art speak independently. It left him in relative poverty and obscurity for his life. But hey, he had his principles.

For what shall it profit a man if he gains the whole world, but loses his soul?

We need to ask someone who thinks a principle is a guy who runs a school. @FROG...?

 

[FROG]

And you are still wrong. All it means is that postal inspectors aren't doing their jobs correctly. Shocker, that the same postal service that couldn't find my house even though I could see the post office from my kitchen window, would get something wrong.

Surprisingly, the only bit of real customer service Donal is offering is telling backers not to accept the package and force the post office to send it back to him so he can bring it up with his local post office because it does qualify as media mail.

Back then I said, over and over again, that the code regarding Media Mail specifically mentions "Comics Books" as not qualifying, and perhaps you could interpret that as being because they contain advertising.

But it doesn't matter. Postal inspectors are still going to fuck up your life by opening your package, finding a comic book and not caring that it doesn't have ads, and doing exactly what Donal claims they're doing to him and his customers.

While I agreed with you that strictly speaking, Graphic Novels should be okay, it doesn't matter because that distinction doesn't mean anything to the USPS, and taking the chance of having them upend your fulfillment just to save $5 per package, was pretty stupid.

And here we are.

For what shall it profit a man if he gains the whole world, but loses his soul?

We need to ask someone who thinks a principle is a guy who runs a school. @FROG...?

I didn't realize your "soul" hinged on stubbornly refusing to play nice with people you hate for reasons of deep seated envy, when you could be doing business and feeding your kids.

It's pretty cool how these "principles" always allow the principle bearer to wallow in grudges and maintain their bruised egos. I'm pretty sure that's what principles are about.

 

[Newman's Own]

I didn't realize your "soul" hinged on stubbornly refusing to play nice with people you hate for reasons of deep seated envy

Ditko wasn't an envious guy. He wasn't even the type to brag about creating Spidey or Strange. He walked away without complaining and never looked back.

I can see how you wouldn't relate.

It's pretty cool how these "principles" always allow the principle bearer to wallow in grudges and maintain their bruised egos.

I think there's some projection going on here.

Kirby held grudges, and rightly so, but Ditko walked away clean. Ditko's whole objectivist philosophy was about living by his principles and not making excuses. It's what The Question and Mr A were all about.

This type of person exists. People who live by standards. You should give Ayn Rand a try Peter Keating.

 

[Brother Maynard]

Back then I said, over and over again, that the code regarding Media Mail specifically mentions "Comics Books" as not qualifying, and perhaps you could interpret that as being because they contain advertising.

But it doesn't matter. Postal inspectors are still going to fuck up your life by opening your package, finding a comic book and not caring that it doesn't have ads, and doing exactly what Donal claims they're doing to him and his customers.

While I agreed with you that strictly speaking, Graphic Novels should be okay, it doesn't matter because that distinction doesn't mean anything to the USPS, and taking the chance of having them upend your fulfillment just to save $5 per package, was pretty stupid.

And here we are.



I didn't realize your "soul" hinged on stubbornly refusing to play nice with people you hate for reasons of deep seated envy, when you could be doing business and feeding your kids.

It's pretty cool how these "principles" always allow the principle bearer to wallow in grudges and maintain their bruised egos. I'm pretty sure that's what principles are about.

As a former customer, can I ask you why you don't lower your prices? The idea of paying 35 bucks for a comic book is wearing a bit thin on some of us. If you care about the customer, and it's clear you're well and deep into profit, why don't you cut your customers a break?

 

[FROG]

As a former customer, can I ask you why you don't lower your prices? The idea of paying 35 bucks for a comic book is wearing a bit thin on some of us. If you care about the customer, and it's clear you're well and deep into profit, why don't you cut your customers a break?

Sincere question: You're a former customer. Do you WANT to read my comics?

If so, what price point would bring you back?

 

[Brother Maynard]

Sincere question: You're a former customer. Do you WANT to read my comics?

If so, what price point would bring you back?

I'm okay with backing creators at higher prices to help them produce the books. That's what crowdfunding is all about. But when it gets obvious that people (not just you) are using CFing and inflated prices when it's completely unnecessary, it feels like I'm being milked.

More pages, or lower prices, something more commensurate with standard publishing would make me consider future projects.

Thanks for asking.

 

[Absurdity]

I didn't realize your "soul" hinged on stubbornly refusing to play nice with people you hate for reasons of deep seated envy, when you could be doing business and feeding your kids.

It's pretty cool how these "principles" always allow the principle bearer to wallow in grudges and maintain their bruised egos. I'm pretty sure that's what principles are about.

That's deep. It could only be envy or childish hatred or ignorance which keep people from liking you.

 

[Smug Freiza]

I'm okay with backing creators at higher prices to help them produce the books. That's what crowdfunding is all about. But when it gets obvious that people (not just you) are using CFing and inflated prices when it's completely unnecessary, it feels like I'm being milked.

More pages, or lower prices, something more commensurate with standard publishing would make me consider future projects.

Thanks for asking.

Frog is one of the few creators who has actually improved the value of his products for backers while moving forward, along with Tim Lim and Doug TenNapel.

For $35 (inc shipping) during the Bloodhoney campaign you received the book, an ashcan, two trading cards, bookmark and a window cling sticker. The books also came with chromium covers and signatures at no extra cost. The price per page was $0.29 per page, which is rather steep considering other projects.

For the same $35 (inc shipping) during the Rekt Planet campaign you receive the book, a bonus comic (42 pages), Salamandroid zine, six trading cards (3 chromium), two stickers, a keychain, a customized shipping box, chromium covers, signatures and a PVC toy. The price per page was $0.25 per page, a four cent reduction in addition to receiving twice as many stickers, three times as many trading cards, a bonus comic instead of an ashcan, keychain, color zine, personalized shipping box and PVC toy.

For $40 (inc shipping) you could have got the Warts N All Omnibus, with a trading card binder and what appears to be 14 additional trading cards. Warts and All has a price per page of $0.09 cents per page which is as competitively priced as Tim Lim's Black Hops and Wallmight Omnibuses.

I haven't bothered to check the Rainbow Brute or Snowman campaigns, but when comparing the three campaigns above despite the price point not changing Ethan has improved the value for backers. Both Rekt Planet and Wart and All were undoubtedly some of the best valued projects offered by anyone in Comicsgate or outside of it.

At least Ethan isn't to the point of charging backers $20 for his signature like another crowdfunding creator.

 

[Zigzag]

Frog is one of the few creators who has actually improved the value of his products for backers while moving forward, along with Tim Lim and Doug TenNapel.

For $35 (inc shipping) during the Bloodhoney campaign you received the book, an ashcan, two trading cards, bookmark and a window cling sticker. The books also came with chromium covers and signatures at no extra cost. The price per page was $0.29 per page, which is rather steep considering other projects.

For the same $35 (inc shipping) during the Rekt Planet campaign you receive the book, a bonus comic (42 pages), Salamandroid zine, six trading cards (3 chromium), two stickers, a keychain, a customized shipping box, chromium covers, signatures and a PVC toy. The price per page was $0.25 per page, a four cent reduction in addition to receiving twice as many stickers, three times as many trading cards, a bonus comic instead of an ashcan, keychain, color zine, personalized shipping box and PVC toy.

For $40 (inc shipping) you could have got the Warts N All Omnibus, with a trading card binder and what appears to be 14 additional trading cards. Warts and All has a price per page of $0.09 cents per page which is as competitively priced as Tim Lim's Black Hops and Wallmight Omnibuses.

I haven't bothered to check the Rainbow Brute or Snowman campaigns, but when comparing the three campaigns above despite the price point not changing Ethan has improved the value for backers. Both Rekt Planet and Wart and All were undoubtedly some of the best valued projects offered by anyone in Comicsgate or outside of it.

At least Ethan isn't to the point of charging backers $20 for his signature like another crowdfunding creator.
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I’ve gotten actual books like Doug book for that. Evs are floppies a price point should be 10 -15 plus shipping . It isn’t because he wants his old page rate.

 

[Newman's Lovechild]

This type of person exists. People who live by standards.

Don't frighten the man.

As a former customer, can I ask you why you don't lower your prices? The idea of paying 35 bucks for a comic book is wearing a bit thin on some of us. If you care about the customer, and it's clear you're well and deep into profit, why don't you cut your customers a break?

What? Then he'd have to rack up those big numbers through actual reach, rather than milking his devotees. If he did that it'd hamstring his life's goal of showing up Doug TenNapel.

Frog is one of the few creators who has actually improved the value of his products for backers while moving forward, along with Tim Lim and Doug TenNapel.

For $35 (inc shipping) during the Bloodhoney campaign you received the book, an ashcan, two trading cards, bookmark and a window cling sticker. The books also came with chromium covers and signatures at no extra cost. The price per page was $0.29 per page, which is rather steep considering other projects.

For the same $35 (inc shipping) during the Rekt Planet campaign you receive the book, a bonus comic (42 pages), Salamandroid zine, six trading cards (3 chromium), two stickers, a keychain, a customized shipping box, chromium covers, signatures and a PVC toy. The price per page was $0.25 per page, a four cent reduction in addition to receiving twice as many stickers, three times as many trading cards, a bonus comic instead of an ashcan, keychain, color zine, personalized shipping box and PVC toy.

For $40 (inc shipping) you could have got the Warts N All Omnibus, with a trading card binder and what appears to be 14 additional trading cards.

TCHOTCHKES. Tchotchkes and gewgaws and pointless fucking clutter. Shiny beads to impress the trusting natives. I already grumbled about how good writing comes in a distant second to the flashy art in these books, these heirs of Liefeld, but this shit heaped on top of that aggravates me. Trading cards? Window stickers!? Window stickers for window lickers. Better make 'em flavored. I already feel like enough of an autist just buying these books, and at these tourist prices. I don't need to cement it or broadcast it even further. If I wanted that shit I'd go to a store and buy some pokeymans cards.

It's not just the Frog. I look at my inbox and see emails from the Worm jumping up and down about reaching the leather cover goal, reaching the gold inlay goal, reaching the vellum-shaved-from-the-tenderest-dew-fed-kobe-calves goal. Guy, any guy, just give me a story about a slimy creature with robot muscles and reasonably pretty pictures, and try not to make it suck too hard. Everything else is meaningless.

Value? False economy.

 

[Analog Devolved]

Sincere question: You're a former customer. Do you WANT to read my comics?

If so, what price point would bring you back?

I actually do want to read your comics. The price is a bit steep and the standard $35 for a crowdfundunded comic has put me off to backing any books. While I know you and other big names will deliver and have a good track record on getting merchandise to backers, guys like Donal and Mitch have really put a sour taste in my mouth about gambling on unproven creators.

The sheer unparalleled incompetence displayed by Donal Delay and the Breitweisers is a major hangup since both were promoted heavily when they launched their campaigns YEARS ago. Hindsight is 20/20 and its easy to say now that they are retards who shouldn't be trusted but you helped facilitate their success, and they went on to screw up in every conceivable way.

You were at the Wally world meeting and knew exactly what kind of bullshit Mitch Breitweiser was trying to pull and didn't warn anyone that maybe he wasn't completely honest about his plans. I understand there's no way you could have predicted Donal is a cum stained buddyfucking cuckold but you went to bat for Mitch on many occasions even after he tried to steal your IP.

I don't think lowering your prices will get you any more backers, but there is a loss of trust among people like me.

Don't frighten the man.



What? Then he'd have to rack up those big numbers through actual reach, rather than milking his devotees. If he did that it'd hamstring his life's goal of showing up Doug TenNapel.



TCHOTCHKES. Tchotchkes and gewgaws and pointless fucking clutter. Shiny beads to impress the trusting natives. I already grumbled about how good writing comes in a distant second to the flashy art in these books, these heirs of Liefeld, but this shit heaped on top of that aggravates me. Trading cards? Window stickers!? Window stickers for window lickers. Better make 'em flavored. I already feel like enough of an autist just buying these books, and at these tourist prices. I don't need to cement it or broadcast it even further. If I wanted that shit I'd go to a store and buy some pokeymans cards.

It's not just the Frog. I look at my inbox and see emails from the Worm jumping up and down about reaching the leather cover goal, reaching the gold inlay goal, reaching the vellum-shaved-from-the-tenderest-dew-fed-kobe-calves goal. Guy, any guy, just give me a story about a slimy creature with robot muscles and reasonably pretty pictures, and try not to make it suck too hard. Everything else is meaningless.

Value? False economy.

I like to A-log Ethan as much as the next guy but almost all crowdfunds have stretch goals that have nothing to do with the actual campaign. While you and I may have no use for trading cards the backers seem to like them and they are added at no extra cost.

Theres a limited number of ways to flair up a comic book and all the extra crap is just the creator trying to add value for early backers and make them feel like their support helps them be a part of the project.

The toys and stickers just don't materialize. A lot of work goes into making that happen. It's clear people are excited about the PVC cyberfrog figurine and its no more autistic than the superhero statues, funko pops and other random ass toys like amiibos most of these people have. A salamandroid figure is a nice addition to sitting on the bookshelf with TPB's or to put on your desk at work.

The all caps window sticker covered up my Bernie 2020 cling nicely and the chrome cyberfrog sticker looks awesome next to the gay rights symbol on my car.

My neighbor who likes to sit naked in his bedroom with an open window finally put up curtains after seeing me smoking cigarettes while staring at him in my cyberfrog t shirt and all caps hat.

Truly Ethan is wonderful, my neighbor must have heard about the pizza parlour meetups and decided to block my view.