Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

I don't give a shit what anyone says, you have to be some special kind of retard and sociopath to dance around, singing "I told you so, I told you so!" as a building collapses, taking pleasure at the sight of people who inconvenienced you lying in the rubble. DC comics is all but dead, many people lost their jobs in a pandemic economy, who the fuck is celebrating that?

Fucking Starlord, that's who.
People who spent several years labeling him and friends, racist, white supremacists', Nazis', etc and hoping his next words would be "Would you like fries with that?" aren't doing so well now. Shockingly, he doesn't care much for their plight at this point. Is it spiteful? I guess, but not a really a surprising stance to take
 
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And? Wokeness has not harmed any other industry it has "infected" despite youtube culture warriors' insistence infact almost everything you guys claim as a case of "Go Woke Get Broke" has made millions of dollars sometimes billions. * Captain Marvel,TLOU2 and Disney's Star Wars are all big examples *
It takes a special kind of dumbness to not recognise the harm that wokeness did to Disney's Star Wars.

After the Woke Masterpiece of The Last Jedi, all Star Wars merchandising of the new trilogy completely died in the arse.

The next Star Wars film after The Last Jedi, became the first Star Wars film to ever lose money and the last movie in the Disney Star Wars trilogy, was the worst performing of the 3 movies at the box office, by far.

How's Rian Johnson's promised Star Wars trilogy going?

To compensate, Disney have released The Mandalorian and made sure it lacked Wokeness and instead, focused on Fan Service.
 
People who spent several years labeling him and friends, racist, white supremacists', Nazis', etc and hoping his next words would be "Would you like fires with that?" aren't doing so well now. Shockingly, he doesn't care much for their plight at this point. Is it spiteful? I guess, but not a really a surprising stance to take
This is why I don't even take the 2 Newmans seriously. They're viciously unfair in their analysis of events before they pass their gay judgment.

Can't really hear what they have to say past their a-logging fury.
 
I don't give a shit what anyone says, you have to be some special kind of retard and sociopath to dance around, singing "I told you so, I told you so!" as a building collapses, taking pleasure at the sight of people who inconvenienced you lying in the rubble. DC comics is all but dead, many people lost their jobs in a pandemic economy, who the fuck is celebrating that?

they should have taken their own advice as they gloated over trump supporters and working class people losing their jobs and learned to fucking code

no sympathy for them sorry not sorry honey and you can take that to twitter
 
It takes a special kind of dumbness to not recognise the harm that wokeness did to Disney's Star Wars.

After the Woke Masterpiece of The Last Jedi, all Star Wars merchandising of the new trilogy completely died in the arse.

The next Star Wars film after The Last Jedi, became the first Star Wars film to ever lose money and the last movie in the Disney Star Wars trilogy, was the worst performing of the 3 movies at the box office, by far.

How's Rian Johnson's promised Star Wars trilogy going?

To compensate, Disney have released The Mandalorian and made sure it lacked Wokeness and instead, focused on Fan Service.
:story: Those movies still made billions of dollars and Disney was still shitting out tons of Star Wars merch while youtubers were saying Iger would totally fire Kathleen Kennedy.

Not only is she still not fired but she's one of the people behind the franchise saving Mandolorian.

Also "wokeness" totally ruined Star Wars as a brand but all it took to save it was a Boba Fett knockoff and his toddler Yoda.

Either you're overestimating the damage "wokeness" did or Star Wars fans are easily pleased.

People who spent several years labeling him and friends, racist, white supremacists', Nazis', etc and hoping his next words would be "Would you like fires with that?" aren't doing so well now. Shockingly, he doesn't care much for their plight at this point. Is it spiteful? I guess, but not a really a surprising stance to take
EVS himself ain't much better though. How much retarded high school drama and infighting has CG been involved with in just the past month alone?
 
Oh, I do not.
 

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* Captain Marvel,TLOU2 and Disney's Star Wars are all big examples *
The Hell they did.
The Last Jedi nearly tanked the franchise because the response to it contributed to Solo bombing in theaters (which shelved all other film projects) and Rise of Skywalkers did not make nearly has much money as The Last Jedi.
I will say Captain Marvel is one of the highest-grossing MCU films in the franchise, though.
TLOU2's sales were generated because of how well received the first game was and the hype for it was understandable.
I have no idea if Neil Druckmann has any plans for a third game and if he did, i'm sure there will be people buying it. However, the goodwill Druckmann may have had prior to TLOU2's release is certainly tainted so I'm not expecting as nearly the same numbers.
 
Those people ignored the writing on the wall. They’ve had a good 2 or 3 year warning and they ignored customer complaints about their books in favor of appeasing a certain set of people who really don’t support comics like that. They kept on pushing the same narrative that doesn’t sell books and turns customers away. Now it’s time for change. They don’t have to be CG, but they should have taken a closer look and what the more successful CGers were doing so they could have had the skill to survive out there outside of the mainstream.

They created the situation. At best they enabled them.

People lost jobs?

The same people who have been driving people out of the industry for disagreeing with them on twitter? The ones who blacklisted @FROG and others from being able to work? Who have literally conspired to destroy indy comics because the wrong people were doing them instead of going off and dying like they were supposed to?

Or, if they weren't part of the malicious 12 weirdos on Twitter, they were part of a machine that empowered them in the industry and did whatever it could to make sure they were protected from any repercussions of their actions. Or who were hiring untalented fucking hacks out of some kind of bullshit token diversity hire initiative to get them brownie points and maybe a pity handjob from the rainbow haired she-twink intern they hired.

Those people? The ones who took a 100 year old industry and ran it into the ground in a single decade? They lost jobs?

Good.

It is an EXCELLENT time to gloat. Everyone in CG has been warning them and EVS has been warning them louder than most.

More like twenty, but sure.

ATT is 150 billion in debt and they don't give a shit if Batman is selling 100k or 250k issues each month. They are trying to optimise their entire business and they'd be firing people from DC that they think are redundant or bad even if DC's sales were 5 times higher than they are now.

Really, five times? That's awful certain for an unrealized reality. Maybe we can talk about what is.

Frog tried to argue that Zack dropping the suit was good and not an L before someone found his 8 month old tweets so I'm sure that 12 months later he'll talk again something about DC dying next spring.

That doesn't change the situation in the mainstream. DC can be drowning in it's own filth while the former fan movement can be a glorified circle jerk.
 
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:story: Those movies still made billions of dollars and Disney was still shitting out tons of Star Wars merch while youtubers were saying Iger would totally fire Kathleen Kennedy.

Not only is she still not fired but she's one of the people behind the franchise saving Mandolorian.

Also "wokeness" totally ruined Star Wars as a brand but all it took to save it was a Boba Fett knockoff and his toddler Yoda.

Either you're overestimating the damage "wokeness" did or Star Wars fans are easily pleased.


EVS himself ain't much better though. How much retarded high school drama and infighting has CG been involved with in just the past month alone?
I'd say it is not Wokeness that ruined Star Wars, but a production team who tried to get both the older fans and the new generation in one movie - and failed to get either. And then kept doing the same thing again and again hoping they will get it right.
The Mandalorian on the other hand was made for older fans who loved the original trilogy and, surprise! surprise! the younger generation did like that.
It is as if making a movie or a series with high quality production, a clear vision and aimed to appeal to a certain demographic actually works...
 
I don't give a shit what anyone says, you have to be some special kind of retard and sociopath to dance around, singing "I told you so, I told you so!" as a building collapses, taking pleasure at the sight of people who inconvenienced you lying in the rubble. DC comics is all but dead, many people lost their jobs in a pandemic economy, who the fuck is celebrating that?

They blacklisted him and tried to make it so he couldn't possibly earn a living with his profession through their whisper network. Just like they do to anyone who voted for Trump. I, too, am joyful at watching their industry fan-fic club burn.
 
People who spent several years labeling him and friends, racist, white supremacists', Nazis', etc and hoping his next words would be "Would you like fires with that?" aren't doing so well now. Shockingly, he doesn't care much for their plight at this point. Is it spiteful? I guess, but not a really a surprising stance to take

Agreed. Frog is the personification of spite.

Tons which is also why I bailed. but that doesn't really disprove my point of why EVS wouldn't care about these guys eating shit now

I'll translate for A-loggers and simps, you can both fuck yourselves.


They blacklisted him and tried to make it so he couldn't possibly earn a living with his profession through their whisper network. Just like they do to anyone who voted for Trump. I, too, am joyful at watching their industry fan-fic club burn.

That's...not what fanfic is Jon. Go hug your Trump body pillow.
 
That's...not what fanfic is Jon. Go hug your Trump body pillow.

Just cuz they get paid by a corporation that has a license that says they have a copyright to a bunch of dead guys' works doesn't make it any less fan-fic. It just means you're a complete retard if you don't think of it as fan-fic.
 
I don't give a shit what anyone says, you have to be some special kind of retard and sociopath to dance around, singing "I told you so, I told you so!" as a building collapses, taking pleasure at the sight of people who inconvenienced you lying in the rubble. DC comics is all but dead, many people lost their jobs in a pandemic economy, who the fuck is celebrating that?

Fucking Starlord, that's who.



I guess we see first-hand how generous the Toad's spirit is.

@X Pac Heat Ethan did not 'save comics'. Comics are completely incidental to the Toad's current business model. The comicsgate crowdfunding method is very spotty in it's public-facing mission of producing superior comics and placing them in customers hands, with more duds than successes. Two hidebound monoliths gasping and falling over does not correspond to the death of comics in the first place.

@TrunksFromDragonballGT I don't know what to say to you. Right now Nasser looks more intelligent than you do, by sheer virtue of not wading in with his non-facts.
I mostly agree with you. But after getting fucked with to the point of losing buisness, having your life and livelihood affected by certain people. I can see why Zack and CG would celebrate that the shitters are getting shat on for once. It's not ideal that they're out of a job but they did spend nearly half a decade talking about how superior they were and took glee in ruining the lives of others. For once it's nice to see some consequences for SJWs. And they have only themselves to blame. They were all handed a biblical resurection of the industry on a platter when Superhero films got popular. But decided to get self indulgent and pozzed.
 
Comics went woke in the first place because they weren't selling.

In fact sales of comics have increased since they went "woke"

in 2012 comic sales topped out at $805 million, in 2019 they sold 1.2 billion .

DC as a brand is making money just fine * That new Wonder Woman film did so well WB's already fast tracked a sequel and merchandise continues to sell like hotcakes * only the periodicals are in trouble and that honestly has more to do with the magazine format in general declining as Graphic novels are now dominating the North American comics market.
Looking at those numbers, the majority of sales are listed as coming from trades and graphic novels; and if the best-sellers lists in this category I’ve found are accurate, then most of these sales come from people buying the preexisting comic trades related to upcoming movies or shows - Watchmen, Infinity Gauntlet, and Umbrella Academy sales directly correlated with their respective equivalent movie/show releases - along with a whole lot of old Batman trades, including the hard cover edition release of The Killing Joke. And I can’t help but notice that a lot of the trade sales can be credited to Image, most likely due to their accessibility because when an Image comic says Vol. 1, it really means Vol. 1. And even then, the biggest sellers like Saga Vol. 1 have been out for a while.

Really, I don’t think this says anything about either the #woke elements or the pandemic, and I’ve always said that increased wokeshit is more a symptom of of a business in trouble rather than the direct cause. If anything, I think the numbers show just how poor and unsustainable of a business model floppy single issues sold in limited locations are in the long run, sustained mostly through short-term gimmicks like variant covers, crossover events, roster swaps, and endlessly relaunching line-ups. Because the industry apparently learned nothing from the 90s.

Pandemic simply turned what would’ve been a slow fade on life support into instant combustion.
 
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