He's kind of boring, to be honest, it's nearly impossible to keep a conversation going with him if it's not focused on him.
Context for the people who don't know: He thinks I'm a woman in her mid-20s, just outside his fuckable range. Early on I tried to correct him, but it didn't exactly work, so I just went with it.
I guess some key points, apart from what I've already said:
1. He really is that dumb when it comes to catfish. I've warned him, with proof stopping just short of, "they're talking about it on KF", that every single catfish since late 2019 was a catfish, described how the red flags are red flags, and every time he insists I'm being too suspicious or that I haven't talked to her so how could I know?
Shockingly, every time I've been right.
Shockingly, every time he falls for the exact same thing sometimes only days after falling for one.
Catfishing The Wern is kind of on par with letting your dog "find" food under a solo cup as a party trick; the dog's going to find it every time, and Lucas is going to get catfished every time.
2. He is immensely racist and anti-semitic. His fixation on mostly Asian women is that he's sure they'd be more agreeable/submissive than black women or Latina women or literally any other kind of woman.
3. He's definitely misogynistic.
He absolutely hates it if he perceives someone he thinks is a woman being more intelligent or successful than he is. You can kind of see that in the difference in the way he reacted to being made fun of by the guys on The Geek Room vs. the women.
With men, he treats it as banter/ribbing/horseplay that's all in good fun.
With women, it's a highly personal threat.
The thing is, you can argue all you want that the two women that were on the Geek Room stream with him were being bitchy or rude or whatever, but the thing is, it wouldn't have mattered either way, because he expects women to be automatically submissive and polite toward men.
#4 elaborates.
4. Despite that, he DOES find it easier to talk to women but it's largely because most women are conditioned to be polite; the problem is he legit isn't able to recognize the social cues that would tell anyone else that someone is being polite because they're afraid of how you'll react if they tell you to fuck off. He interprets that as women "being nicer" than men. It's not possible to convince him otherwise, the closest I got was managing to explain to him around the time he put out a few videos about how he "now realizes" it's not appropriate to hit on women at work because they have no way to end the conversation or leave without risking being fired.
He didn't realize that, I spent three days in a "Where do I go to download RAM?" style conversation with him explaining it.
He does not understand that most women are polite to people like him when face to face because they're genuinely uncomfortable and aren't sure if they can get away from him safely or are afraid of how he'll react if they piss him off. He thinks that women are just "naturally" more polite.
When he encounters a woman who does anything but agree with him, she's automatically a bitch, a cunt, a whore, a slut, stupid, etc...because, in his mind, if she weren't, she'd be agreeing with everything he says.
5. He genuinely does not understand the concept of burner numbers.
6. I'm 100% sure he has severe issues with short term memory, because we've had multiple versions of the same conversation or I've brought up something he said a few days prior and he has no recollection of it, even after being shown screenshots. He also forgets what he says in videos almost as soon as he's done recording.
Not sure if that's something that's always been an issue for him or if it's because of the sheer amount of weed he smokes, but he definitely has problems with short term memory.
The most recent example is how he's convinced I coined the "it's not in the cards" phrase, even after he saw the video I put up that was just a video of him explaining that it's something his mom says to him. He honest to fuck thinks I fabricated that video.
7. Same with the Facebook screenshots that get posted here where he's admitted to being a pedo, admitted to trying to blackmail people into giving him women to rape in exchange, etc...it's all fabricated, he doesn't remember it. That also showed up a lot in a few Golden USB episodes, and when you do send him links to it on his own channels or social media that is genuine confusion and not remembering posting that. Telling people Jason Perva, Dan Campbell, or "trolls" posted it isn't some transparent defense mechanism, he legit doesn't remember doing it and can't figure out WHY he would have posted something so damning and since he gets trolled regularly enough that he can't forget it that's what he assumes happened.
8. He doesn't understand boundaries, just in general, including his own.
9. When pressed in a conversation to the point that he can't fall back on his current narrative, like, when being confronted with the reality of something being wildly different than his swiss cheese brain remembers it, he doesn't know what to do. He'll stumble, stammer, go silent, go offline, or try to change the topic.
This happens most commonly in situations where, say, he'll tell you his current narrative and you'll show him a recent video of himself saying the exact opposite; it's hard to reconcile a video he took of himself saying something with whatever his current short term memory recalls, so he short circuits.
If you watch his body language and expressions carefully enough, it's clearly not faked, there's a lot of involuntary shit he does that gives it away as some kind of issue with his brain not working correctly; it's on par with the kind of reaction you get with different varieties of dementia or certain types of mental illness if you try to correct a delusion the patient is currently having: It makes it worse and often leads to a hostile reaction or the other person shutting down entirely.
10. He is very, very bad at figuring out when someone IS harmlessly joking with him vs. trolling him. That's sort of understandable given everything above, but it means you have to speak to him very, very carefully if you don't want an impulsive block. In a relationship situation, these traits would mean anyone who was with him would be constantly walking on eggshells.
I've worked with Alzheimer's patients both inside and outside my own family for a long time, so I know how to navigate the waters of The Wern's mind pretty well while avoiding enabling him AND avoiding tripping his defense mechanisms when reality differs from his short term memory.
11. Speaking of memory though, his long term memory isn't much better. It's there in a lot of bits and pieces, which may be due to all the weed he smokes, but also likely has a basis in whatever "illness" happened to him as a kid and by unchecked mental illness. There's a lot he remembers, and there's a lot he doesn't, and they're not minor things either. He has whole years of his life that he doesn't remember; if shown shit he posted from those times, he legitimately does not recall any of it.
12. Where friendships are concerned, he doesn't know how they work. I suspect he's never had friends who were doing anything but using him until what he could offer wasn't worth dealing with him anymore. He views friendships and relationships as highly transactional.
To a degree all relationships ARE transactional on some level, they're give and take, but it's a relatively equal give and take.
With Lucas, he believes because he gives friends anything they ask him for, they should do the same and doesn't see that there's a world of difference between asking someone to buy meals, get weed, get alcohol, get $AnyMaterialThing and "Get me a woman to fuck". Some of that leads back into #3 and #4 about how misogynistic he is, but a lot of it is that he simply doesn't seem to be able to see the difference between the two or how, "I bought you dinner and smoked you out, you owe me sex." is entirely inappropriate and creepy.
13. Part of the low self esteem, but he's absolutely terrified that he's bad at sex and his exes never told him and that any woman who sees his itty bitty teenie weenie will just laugh and leave.
14. He has no idea how female anatomy works or is laid out apart from "this is where titties are, and this general area is where the other stuff is". He wasn't joking around or making a slip of words when he talked about 'fucking a clitoris' in a few videos, he uses that word interchangeably with vagina and is wholly unaware that "vagina" doesn't encompass everything below the belt that isn't the ass.
You're welcome for that conversational tidbit I had to sit through with him.
15. Given #14, and his obsession with fisting--and not even knowing how to hold his hand in his 'demonstrations' on video--it's a pretty safe bet to say that The Wern is absolutely horrible in bed.
16. When he's leaving voice DMs for someone he's not mad at and doesn't want to fuck, he sounds entirely normal; he has normal speech patterns, he has normal pitch/volume, he laughs easily, he can banter (even if you reply with text, he can verbally banter), he's very conversational and warm.
I have no earthly idea how he manages to not translate that to text or DMs with people he wants to fuck, but there are glimpses when he leaves normal voice DMs that SOMEWHERE there's a viable, normal, even likable person. It's just so buried under everything else that there's next to no chance of it becoming anything more than occasional glimpses.
The thing is, that's how he views himself.
If he talked in voice DMs to women he wanted to fuck the way he talks to someone he thinks is a woman but also doesn't want to fuck, he might actually have a decent shot...until they Google his name or look at any of his videos, that is.
The most curious part is, the one time I asked him why he doesn't talk to women he wants to fuck the way he talks to me...
17. ...the answer was a combination of that he didn't know, that he didn't see much of a difference (dude...), and that he freezes up in situations where he actually likes someone in what amounts to a sexual or romantic context. Fair enough, that happens to a lot of people when they're nervous; it's still interesting to know he CAN interact with women (or, in my case, someone he perceives to be a woman) like a normal person but only if he's not interested in fucking them.
18. He D E S P E R A T E L Y wants to be seen as having above average intelligent/an intellectual, but not because he thinks it'll get him laid (remember, nobody fucks nerds or something), because he spent his childhood, entire schooling career, and adulthood being constantly told he's stupid, he's slow, he's a sped, he's a retard, etc...the only person to ever really tell him he wasn't was, of course, his mom.
Edit:
19. He's definitely not straight. Part of why he hyperfixates on women having to be A Certain Way is so he doesn't have to think about the fact that he's, at the very least, bi.
That mixed with his generalized misogyny is also why he doesn't like and/or is hostile toward women he thinks are butch or not performing being feminine correctly. Butch women, especially if they're lesbians or bi, are a threat to him not because they're potentially fucking women he'd also like to fuck, but because, to him, they remind him of men and that reminds him that he's also attracted to men, which he absolutely does not want to be.
His homophobia is almost entirely internalized. He's terrified of being seen as gay.
Edit 2 to add an important bit about Friendship & The Wern that I'd forgotten:
20. He's very, very desperate to have friends and, while everyone changes their personality to a degree depending on who they're hanging around with, Lucas will change his ENTIRE personality in an effort to get other men or unfuckable (but not butch) women to like him.
He's incredibly easy to lead if you're subtle about it and will say/do just about anything to make you like him.
He thinks he's manipulative in the same way, but he really isn't; if you let him think he's lead you now and again he absolutely will not notice you leading him exactly where you want him to go, you just have to be subtle about it.
The reason he puts up with friends who treat him like shit is partially because he doesn't recognize it as something that isn't "horseplay" when it's other men doing it, and partially because he is a very hard time seeing if he's being manipulated unless you're blatantly obvious about it--like telling him he should consider going on medication or that he should consider maybe not trying to fuck young girls.
That's where Isik and his brother fucked up: They started wading into the, "Maybe don't try to fuck young girls, this is bullshit, creepy fake science and you know it" waters. Even then, as long as he gets an apology (and trust me, he cannot differentiate between sincere and insincere apologies) he'll usually forgive the other person and go right back into doing whatever they want as long as he gets to keep the "friendship".
