Jerry Peet / Lily Orchard / Lily Peet / Valkyrstudios / Bhaalspawn / Tara Callie / "Mod Ebara" - Sociopath writer of pedophile fanfiction and cartoon reviews, faked getting raped to force a divorce, then mobbed and gaslit their ex off Tumblr, satanist neoliberal of the MovieSlob variety, also wants to fuck dogs and/or pokemon

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That's also not how that works?

I had a thing here explaining the stupidity of the idea that all shonen protagonists are motivated by 'strength' and 'freedom' as concepts rather than desiring 'strength' and 'freedom' in service to a more concrete and personal goal (as the Sith code details Sith motivation and for some reason I thought she'd be making an equivalency), but then I read it again and I realize she says the 'core virtues' of any shonen protagonist.

What the hell does that mean?


While this is a legitimate perspective to have, this isn't how Lily has stated that she works.

A while back she said that she always felt a need to compensate fan artists, either by donating to them or making sure to plug their Patreon if they refused the money. She hated getting free art and would always insist on at least some nominal money exchanged, and says that she always overpays any artist she commissions.

She says that she feels deeply uncomfortable not offering compensation, and that this was also the reason she paid Lizzy for her art even though they were in a relationship.

I'm not sure if she's still necessarily espousing this view (I haven't seen it said in a while, but my awareness of Lily's social media is mostly contained to what's posted in this thread) but it was one that she made sure to mention, and that seemed to be corroborated by the people she commissioned at the time.

That said, her giving Mikaila and Ginger (and, previously, Lizzy and Carousel) expensive gifts might be what she considers compensation for services rendered. Plus she does still plug Mikaila's patreon (even if it seems that it does no good, although given the quality of work on display that's not Lily's fault).

And I think it's important that she does do this in the form of gifts. It was some months back that Lizzy explicitly mentioned how free she felt that she could throw out the computer Lily gave her. There's definitely some amount of power play going on.


Given that Lily has all but admitted her trans identity is based on a fetish, that's not at all surprising.
I understand all that happened between Lily and Lizzy but theres no way that Lily is able to compensate for everything Mik has drawn for her. Almost every drawing Mik does is for Lily or of Lilys characters, there's just no way that Lily would be able to pay her for it all. Ginger you could speculate about, She only draws things for Lily on the off chance that she's taking random requests. So I think its more likely that Lily pays for art from Ginger.

Like I said, I know that's how Lily operates ,but I'm talking about Mikaila. Your partner can give you all the free shit in the world but it wouldn't change the fact that they still would do the drawings without payment. And with how much of a doormat Mik is I wouldn't be surprised if Lily praising her and enjoying her art would be enough compensation for her. Since Lily is a predator of sorts it also wouldn't surprise me if Lily thinks giving Mik the bare minimum (slight praise) would be enough 'payment' for her.
 
Lily's preference for the Sith really seems like an extension of her Atheism. The Jedi have to follow all these rules and use their power responsibly and stress values such as discipline. Whereas the Sith code, on the surface reads as 'We're not like those boring Jedi, we have fun on the darkside! You get to make your own rules!' Which is, more or less, how most Jedi are seduced to the dark side in the first place.

'You get to have a wife if you're a Sith lord, Anakin. You can even save her from dying! We encourage you to have strong feelings for your wife'


It's more about not having to follow any rules that would get in the way of things Lily wants, whether that's assaulting people for being mean or having a harem of barely legal artists/padawans at your command.
That's pretty much it, Lilly doesn't like having rules to follow or any restrictions that would be an inconvenience to justifying anything she does. If the only rule is a vauge philosophy about following her passions and ambition, then she doesn't need to really think through anything she does, just assume it's right because she's making the effort. Look at how every one of her stories seem to celebrate amoral jackasses with endless power to be challenged, who threaten destruction to bend the setting to their convenience. Or how her critiques of the jedi stem mostly from the jedi not imposing their will on the rest of the galaxy because 'they know better' ("Why don't the jedi just go over to Tatooine and end slavery? Why don't they just take control of the Republic and end corruption? No one could stop them."). One person having all the power in the world with nobody to answer to isn't bad in Lilly's eyes, it's simply a matter of having a 'good' person being the one with all the power.

Once again, I'm reminded of 'Superman Vs The Elite' where the villains represent just how scary it would be for the world if Superman ever decided he didn't need to answer to the law and just killed anyone he perceived as a villain. Lilly sometimes sounds almost like she's quoting Manchester Black's tirades.
 
>Lily Orchard Rule 34 exists
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Excuse me, but how do you know those are things Lily wants? You say that Lilly wants freedom and to be stronger as a person is what she wants but her actions say otherwise. She’s not the type of person to mature and stop acting like a selfish bitch.

I’m just wondering what you meant by that.
Well I did say it semi-sarcastically but here's the general idea:

He's a transgender person, so I would imagine he'd want the freedom to do whatever he wants as a transgender person for himself and others who identify as trans (like, transition, change his name, live with impunity, etc), and the "strength" thing is based on the fact that he's droned on before about growing himself and becoming better than he was yesterday, even though, yeah, he never actually follows through with that. I'm going mainly based on the sentiment he tends to express, even though I usually don't take it seriously either, lol. Although to be fair, he used to be an edgy anti-SJW during his RVI days, so he's made... some progress in the last 8 years, I suppose?
 
Well I did say it semi-sarcastically but here's the general idea:

He's a transgender person, so I would imagine he'd want the freedom to do whatever he wants as a transgender person for himself and others who identify as trans (like, transition, change his name, live with impunity, etc), and the "strength" thing is based on the fact that he's droned on before about growing himself and becoming better than he was yesterday, even though, yeah, he never actually follows through with that. I'm going mainly based on the sentiment he tends to express, even though I usually don't take it seriously either, lol. Although to be fair, he used to be an edgy anti-SJW during his RVI days, so he's made... some progress in the last 8 years, I suppose?
👌 Thank you.
 
And would you look at that, she even has a link to nsfw art that she’s conveniently save to a Google drive.


But remember, Lizzy was lying about the NSFW stuff.

Also someone archive all that.

Jerry must have exceptionally low standards if he wanks it to this.

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Both Ginger and Mmmkay can't draw porn for shit.
 
Jerry must have exceptionally low standards if he wanks it to this.


Both Ginger and Mmmkay can't draw porn for shit.
my guess then is that lily specifically asked them to draw this then, with how consistent it is that she has pictures off her previous puppets fucking eachother.

I'd get it if they were different characters lily has used to represent herself, yet theyre still their own characters, but no. every single one of those were made to be a reflection on lily somehow. The gray puppet was also drawn my Lizzy mind you- i think every puppet bar her old pony one was drawn by lizzy come to think of it.

it's also sad that mikaila never puts watermarks on her work but ginger does. it shows who's more proud of their work/cares the most about it.

I dont care how shitty your artwork is, take pride in it by watermarking it! it shows that you care for your work and at the end of the day, if youre just drawing for fun-despite the quality of the work, surely you have passion for it?

watermark your art ffs.
 
Although to be fair, he used to be an edgy anti-SJW during his RVI days, so he's made... some progress in the last 8 years, I suppose?
Depends on your definition of the word "progress". Sure, he has changed from his early years, but not really for the better. He just went from one kind of arrogant asshole to another.
 
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Well you can't expect troons to know what a vagina is actually supposed to look like.
The funniest part is that the drawing with a vagina was done by Ginger, a vagina owner. She just doesn't know how to draw one.

How old was she even when that picture was made, does anyone know? If it was done while Ginger was underage that'd reflect so good on Liliana.
 
The funniest part is that the drawing with a vagina was done by Ginger, a vagina owner. She just doesn't know how to draw one.

How old was she even when that picture was made, does anyone know? If it was done while Ginger was underage that'd reflect so good on Liliana.
scratch that. if this image was done before gunger was 19, that's be a bigger say as lily says the age of concent should be 19+ not 18.
 
Lily kills a helpless animal and posts about it to twitter to garner sympathy?

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"Another"? What the hell, Lily. Do you not have live traps in Canada?

Hey kiwis, long time lurker. Made an account to properly watch threads.
Bruh only someone that's never had to deal with mice would say "just catch it, be kind, and let it be free!!!"

I think this guy is weird, seems incredibly abusive, and am saddened I watched their SU videos in the past simply because I think that show is faggy and overrated. But unless this was a pet mouse, this is totally fine. As long as you have respect for its life and don't torture the creature, this is as good a way as any to take care of a rodent problem on the fly. I've thrown grammar books at mice before but preferred to use glue traps and then quickly put the creature out of its misery once caught.

Until you turn off the lights to go to sleep only to hear squeaking, see a brown mass dash across the corner of your vision while watching a TV, or see a mouse chewing at your sandwich when walking out of your room for a second, you don't realize why mice are so freaky to have around. Plus, you know, incredibly unhealthy.

Point is, out of all the ways to criticize him, this ain't it.
 
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This gave me a headache. Can anyone else please explain how ridiculous this is?
when the word "Nazi" has become so diluted that whether or not you like a certain cartoon or movie qualifies you as one, asking what definition the person is working with is essential to the conversation, because practically everyone has their own definition that does not match the original definition

MovieBob hates Nazis, but he has already advocated for eugenics and genocide and Lily supports him as if she agrees with everything he says, so wouldn't that qualify them as apologists if I'm not using their definition?

if nobody knows which terms you are using, any attempt of a conversation is useless
unless you purposely wanted to be vague out of laziness just to have an excuse to discard your opponent's opinion. it would only mean that you don't believe in your own arguments and just want to "win" the conversation with a gotcha moment

and is exactly is what the word "Nazi" became, not a serious accusation but just a childish name calling
 
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