Cyberpunk 2077 Grieving Thread

[Donald Trump's Neck Vag]

Everyone's focused on the technical issues, but the game behind those issues isn't very good. It's an even buggier version of an Ubisoft open world mixed with a stripped down version of Deus Ex.

The best part of the Witcher 3 were the long, high quality cinematic side quests. Here, virtually every sidequest aside from the ones directly involving main story characters basically amounts to someone calling you and telling you to kill a bunch of enemies. There's none of those cool, well directed cutscenes from TW3 either. Characters just stand and talk at you Far Cry style.

The world looks nice, though.

 

[Ruin]

Everyone's focused on the technical issues, but the game behind those issues isn't very good. It's an even buggier version of an Ubisoft open world mixed with a stripped down version of Deus Ex.

The best part of the Witcher 3 were the long, high quality cinematic side quests. Here, virtually every sidequest aside from the ones directly involving main story characters basically amounts to someone calling you and telling you to kill a bunch of enemies. There's none of those cool, well directed cutscenes from TW3 either. Characters just stand and talk at you Far Cry style.

The world looks nice, though.

I think in 55 or so hours I found one side quest that I thought had writing roughly on par with a TW3 side quest. It's glaringly obvious the writers from TW3 took their checks/severance and fucked off after development ended.

 

[Slimy Time]

Believe it or not i'm playing on vanilla PS4 and having fun with it. Didn't get it until after the 6th patch so I can't comment on launch and it still has it's share of jank so it depends on your tolerance for that. Only had one crash so far but that could be luck. In it's current state i'm enjoying it enough to look past the issues but understand why others wouldn't.

Might be worth picking up in a few months after some more patches.

 

[Back me up!]

That really is the question isn't it? Is CD Projekt Red gonna dump enough money into CP 2077 make it the game from the previews or just "good enough" to be able to throw on the mulitplayer....knowing that if they don't fix the game enough no one is gonna want to do the multiplayer and the whole thing will be a waste.

 

[Ruin]

That really is the question isn't it? Is CD Projekt Red gonna dump enough money into CP 2077 make it the game from the previews or just "good enough" to be able to throw on the mulitplayer....knowing that if they don't fix the game enough no one is gonna want to do the multiplayer and the whole thing will be a waste.

My prediction is they put out one or two patches that marginally improve performance as well as some small DLCs that add minor shit like a new hairstyle or outfit. Then they'll drop support for single player to focus on an atrocious Borderlands meets GTA multiplayer mode because they're idiots who honestly think they can capture the success of the literal lightning in a bottle that was GTA online. It will be full of micro transactions and virtually everyone will hate it except redditors because reddit users are retarded consoomers.

 

[Urbanmech]

I think in 55 or so hours I found one side quest that I thought had writing roughly on par with a TW3 side quest. It's glaringly obvious the writers from TW3 took their checks/severance and fucked off after development ended.

You gotta remember "W3 style quests" became a thing to brag about in other games. Like Horizon ZD bragged about it but none of the quests really stick out like W3. W3 is probably lightning in a bottle at this point with all the letdowns of W3 like quests in other games.

 

[MembersSchoolPizza]

About 200 hours into the game.

Broken? Yeah. Buggy? Yeah. Rushed? Yeah.

Still enjoying it.

I could tolerate the broken, the buggy, even the rushed. What pisses me off is they EA'd the ending.

 

[gay]

I think in 55 or so hours I found one side quest that I thought had writing roughly on par with a TW3 side quest. It's glaringly obvious the writers from TW3 took their checks/severance and fucked off after development ended.

vidya writers just aren't consistent, because after some snooping i found out that there's actually some writer retention between TW3 and Cyberpunk.

BioWare is a good example of writing inconsistency, because while they still have the same veterans on board who were around for for Baldur's Gate and the original Mass Effect: those same people also wrote questlines and characters for Andromeda, Jennifer Hepler wrote some of the best parts for DA and a year later completely shits the bed with DAII, Lukas Kristjanson was lead writer for Baldur's Gate and basically every other early BioWare grail people can't shut up about, but he's also written the shittiest character in every nu-BioWare title to date somehow: Kaidan in ME, Jacob in ME2, Carver in DAII, Sera in Inquisition, that black fag from Andromeda.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

also, MEME MUTAHAR does a video on judging CD PROJEKT RED’s apology video

 

[mr.moon1488]

I think in 55 or so hours I found one side quest that I thought had writing roughly on par with a TW3 side quest. It's glaringly obvious the writers from TW3 took their checks/severance and fucked off after development ended.

I think a lot of it had to do with them trying to appease a US audience. I would imagine even if they didn't have a lot of 500lbs feminist hands working on the game, their attempts to go woke likely either demoralized or drove away a lot of their real talent.

 

[DumDum Did Nothing Wrong]

Jason Screecher released his article about CyberJunk 2020 2077.

Inside Cyberpunk 2077's Disastrous Rollout

Developers say they knew the game wasn’t ready to be released publicly.

www.bloomberg.com

big OOF

 

[WinchesterPremium]

Jason Screecher released his article about CyberJunk 2020 2077.

Inside Cyberpunk 2077's Disastrous Rollout

Developers say they knew the game wasn’t ready to be released publicly.

www.bloomberg.com

big OOF

TLDR "Everyone we talked to said it was someone else's fault"
It isn't the code monkey's fault the code is terrible, its because the management didn't give them enough time!
It isn't the writers fault the writing is mediocre, its the management because they kept changing things!
It isn't the game designer's fault they're missing so many of the things they promised, it was the manager for promising it in the first place!

Honestly it just feels like excuses and scapegoats. Give it another 5 years and you might get the bugs fixed but it isn't like it would have peen perfect with just a little more time.

 

[Ruin]

Jason Screecher released his article about CyberJunk 2020 2077.

Inside Cyberpunk 2077's Disastrous Rollout

Developers say they knew the game wasn’t ready to be released publicly.

www.bloomberg.com

big OOF

Big takeaways

The expected release date was 2022/2023 before management moved it up.

The game was rebooted several times.

The 2018 gameplay trailer was almost entirely fake. None of the features showcased ever existed in any actual build.

The pre Keanu plot was some sort of cyberpsycho conspiracy thriller.

Active development didn't start until early 2018.

 

[DumDum Did Nothing Wrong]

also the game was 3rd person up till 2016. big oof for me.

tho it was funny reading about the diversity hires being salty the polish wouldn't speak in english.

 

[Donald Trump's Neck Vag]

also the game was 3rd person up till 2016. big oof for me.

tho it was funny reading about the diversity hires being salty the polish wouldn't speak in english.

Tbh, that's why CDPR's always going to be a bit shit. They lucked out with Witcher 3, but they're never going to be able to compete with the big bois so long as they're based in Poland. The talent pool is limited and it's gonna be tough to attract top talent.

 

[Fougaro]

Jason Screecher released his article about CyberJunk 2020 2077.

Inside Cyberpunk 2077's Disastrous Rollout

Developers say they knew the game wasn’t ready to be released publicly.

www.bloomberg.com

big OOF

Archived version.

I'm seeing both my theory and the Continuous Delivery video I posted pages ago more and more confirmed that everything is indeed the fault of gross managerial incompetence. If CD Project Red wants to have at the very least the chance of a potential redemption arc, it is absolutely necessary that they fire their previous management if they haven't already done so. Eight years should have been more than enough time to deliver what was initially promised and beyond if people in charge actually knew how to handle it. People who blame everything on dangerhair diversity hires may actually have a point if said diversity hires were the management.

When I heard people talking about how modders will fix Cyberpunk 2077, I thought how funny it was that CDPR is now becoming another Bethesda. But as things stand now a comparison with Bioware does indeed seem more appropriate.

TLDR "Everyone we talked to said it was someone else's fault"
It isn't the code monkey's fault the code is terrible, its because the management didn't give them enough time!
It isn't the writers fault the writing is mediocre, its the management because they kept changing things!
It isn't the game designer's fault they're missing so many of the things they promised, it was the manager for promising it in the first place!

Honestly it just feels like excuses and scapegoats. Give it another 5 years and you might get the bugs fixed but it isn't like it would have peen perfect with just a little more time.

I thought the writing was for most part actually pretty good in spite of everything. As for the rest, based on what we know so far it can indeed be traced back to the management's incompetence.

 

[WinchesterPremium]

Big takeaways

The expected release date was 2022/2023 before management moved it up.

The game was rebooted several times.

The 2018 gameplay trailer was almost entirely fake. None of the features showcased ever existed in any actual build.

The pre Keanu plot was some sort of cyberpsycho conspiracy thriller.

Active development didn't start until early 2018.

Where we reading the same article

Because half those things weren't in it

I thought the writing was for most part actually pretty good in spite of everything. As for the rest, based on what we know so far it can indeed be traced back to the management's incompetence.

The main quest was good and there where some choice side quests.

Can you name three side quests with high quality writing without checking? Just the outline?

 

[Fougaro]

The main quest was good and there where some choice side quests.

Can you name three side quests with high quality writing without checking? Just the outline?

Personally I thought the entire Cyberpsycho side-plot was pretty interesting - especially when you learn the real deal about so-called "cyberpsychosis". I loved the side-quest Chippin' In, where you (re-)connect with Johnny's old gang. The conspiracy plot with the mayoral candidate was in my opinion kino as fuck, in spite of it ending on a cliff-hanger. And I also liked the serial killer quest line you investigate with River. And also the re-enactment of Mel Gibson's The Passion where you can nail a guy called Josh on a cross. These would be at least my favourite choices.

The Beat the Brat side quests can die in a fire though.

 

[WinchesterPremium]

Personally I thought the entire Cyberpsycho side-plot was pretty interesting - especially when you learn the real deal about so-called "cyberpsychosis". I loved the side-quest Chippin' In, where you (re-)connect with Johnny's old gang. The conspiracy plot with the mayoral candidate was in my opinion kino as fuck, in spite of it ending on a cliff-hanger. And I also liked the serial killer quest line you investigate with River. And also the re-enactment of Mel Gibson's The Passion where you can nail a guy called Josh on a cross. These would be at least my favourite choices.

The Beat the Brat side quests can die in a fire though.

The Cyberpsycho side plot? Really? It was basically a bunch of blue knife thing tier random encounters with some dialogue behind it. I can accept the others but can't understand why that was your first choice.

 

[Fuck Y'all]

If CD Project Red wants to have at the very least the chance of a potential redemption arc, it is absolutely necessary that they fire their previous management if they haven't already done so.

>implying that they will fire their high-school buddies