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All this means is that we're in for some hilarious low-effort "how do you do fellow Latinxes" TV spots. "Getting vaccinated? Why, signing up is as easy as rice and beans! Even abuela could do it!"
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All this means is that we're in for some hilarious low-effort "how do you do fellow Latinxes" TV spots. "Getting vaccinated? Why, signing up is as easy as rice and beans! Even abuela could do it!"
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Probably been said before, but "Is it safe?" questions always remind me of this
Still no results from mum and sisters tests from last week, apparently they have been misfiled.
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Doesn't matter. From what I saw freeway traffic and store traffic was about the same during the latest house arrest orders. People are working around or blowing the shit off more and more.
Anyway, nothing will change. The "tier system" is back, just another way to keep fucking people over. "They" obviously intend to maximize the fuck-over factor. Hope enough signatures on recall petitions are gathered to force a recall election on that cocksucker Newsom.
Went to the doctor today, the same doctor whose office yesterday had me call to the hospital and have them fax my test result. Get into the examining room, assistant asked me if I had been tested for ChiCom Flu. Am normally the best patient I can be, but there's a limit. Told the young woman I wasn't angry at her personally, but I was sick and tired of doing her office's work. "WHAT? At your office's request, I had to call the hospital and have them send my results here yesterday! I was here last week for a procedure and nobody asked me if I'd been tested! Bullshit! What the hell's going on here?" The lady departed. During the appointment asked the doctor for the results of last week's procedure. He didn't have them. "Communication's not always the best here." When he brought in the results I told him he had other communications problems in the office, mentioning the test bullshit. He pretty much gaffed it off. Well, have another test coming up at the hospital, will see if I need another ChiCom Flu test beforehand.
Added: The latest bullshit from the county I live in.
COUNTY PRESENTS AMBITIOUS VACCINATION PLAN
After weeks of near silence about how it intended to carry out a mass vaccination program for Monterey County, health officer Dr. Ed Moreno told the board of supervisors Tuesday afternoon his department was ready to put some big numbers up but that its efforts are limited by the amount of vaccine available.
“We could vaccinate 17,100 per week,” Moreno said. “However, we are getting 2,000 to 4,000 doses per week from the two manufacturers.”
Moreno said “at least 21,000” Covid-19 vaccine doses have been administered in Monterey County — but that's only an average of about 525 a day since the vaccines started being delivered here, which is a far cry from the number needed to put a serious dent in the county's epidemic.
When the county does get enough vaccine, Monterey County purchasing officer Mike Derr told the supervisors that it has nailed down numerous “points of distribution,” or mass vaccination sites, in hopes of immunizing 500 to 2,000 people per day per site. The sites would be “drive through scenarios,” Derr said.
There are eight unidentified locations on the Monterey Peninsula, and three of them are already “under agreement” with the county, Derr said. Officials have identified three locations in Big Sur and there are “pending signatures” for the county to use those sites.
In all, office of emergency services manager Gerry Malais said the county has identified a total of 32 locations, which are also in Salinas and North and South Monterey County.
“We are ready to rock and roll once called upon,” Derr said.
Monterey County's vaccination implementation plan can be found here.
For the most current official information on local vaccination availability, click here. The CDPH vaccination page is here. The CDC's nationwide vaccine page can be found here. To review the CDC-recommended tiers for vaccination priority, click here. CHOMP has a very useful page with detailed information about vaccines, which you can find here.
To see the latest county health department data on the local coronavirus epidemic, click here. For the most up-to-date info from the CDPH, click here. And below, you can also find our latest charts and tables about the status of the epidemic in Monterey County, including cases by zip code.
And a cartoon lampooning Fauci's talking about wearing two masks. I prefer to wear no mask at all. Fuck Fauci.
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Another one of my dad's friends got Covid and was fine two days later and he's an obese diabetic with gout.
Seriously who is this thing killing? It's not very good at it.
Seriously who is this thing killing? It's not very good at it.
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Lmao all the people in my circle who are most suspicious of, or outright refuse to get vaccinated are Latinos and black men.
Latinos in particular are a lot more conservative as a group than people realize. If I had to guess I'd speculate that it's because their home countries (or their parents') gave them plenty of reasons to distrust authority in general.
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South Dakota is best Dakota.
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Is Bill Gates stealing up water rights?
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Telehealth seems like it's best for follow-up visits, discussion or lab results/bloodwork, or any other required appointment that doesn't require the doctor to physically check something on or inside a patient. I'd question its effectiveness otherwise even if insurance carriers are promoting them as a low or no-cost alternative while COVID-19 is a concern.
A recall only works if it has a legitimate chance of succeeding and the successor will be better than whomever is being replaced. Absent either of these, one has an exercise in futility.
For example, if Michigan's Governor Whitmer were to be recalled, the Lieutanant Governor wouldn't be any better. He's made race/identity politics his cause celebre as he's already claimed the disproportionate number of COVID cases and deaths involving people "of color" is due to systematic racism even though many have poor personal hygiene, aren't always physically fit, and live in multi-generational residences.
What you've experienced at your doctor's office is a microcosm of the larger picture. There's been an overall lack of communication in terms of dealing with COVID on all of the federal, state, county, and local levels. Each tier of government has different needs, expectations, and concerns; nobody seems to want to work together to address them as optimally as possible.
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VP Kamala Harris receives second dose of COVID vaccine: "When're you gonna put it in?"
Nurse: "I hear that a lot."
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VP Kamala Harris receives second dose of COVID vaccine: "When're you gonna put it in?"
Nurse: "I hear that a lot."
kamala says it a lot
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Can't wait for Rule 34 of that.View attachment 1874263
VP Kamala Harris receives second dose of COVID vaccine: "When're you gonna put it in?"
Nurse: "I hear that a lot."
This raises even more questions:
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Norway’s elderly Covid-19 vaccine deaths aren’t what they seem
33 elderly people in Norway died shortly after receiving their Covid-19 vaccine, but a quick look at the numbers will tell you why this shouldn't be surprising.
By Grace Brown
Tuesday 26 January 2021
Getty Images / WIRED
When reports emerged from Norway about a handful of deaths amongst people who had received the Covid-19 vaccine, vocal vaccine deniers were quick to pounce on the news.
On January 14, the Norwegian Medicines Agency (Noma) reported that 23 people had died after receiving their first dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine. Those who died were described as having severe underlying health conditions and were all aged 75 or over. (The number of deaths has since risen to 33, out of about 55,000 people who have received the first dose of the vaccine in the country.)
The deaths made international headlines, raising alarm that the (typically mild) side effects of the vaccine could cause the elderly who receive it to die. Fox News commentator Jan Morgan posted the news story to Facebook with the caption: “23 die within hours of taking COVID vaccine. ... I’ve never taken a flu shot and I’m certainly NOT letting anyone inject this garbage in to my body.” (The deaths actually happened within six days of the vaccine, according to a statement from the Norwegian Institute of Public Health.)
In Noma’s statement, Sigurd Hortemo, the agency’s chief physician, said that “we cannot rule out that common adverse reactions, such as fever and nausea, may contribute to a more serious course and fatal outcome in some frail patients with severe underlying diseases.” But on January 19, the Norwegian Institute of Public Health released a statement saying that no link had been established between Pfizer/BioNTech's vaccine and any post-vaccination deaths in the country. The World Health Organisation (WHO) echoed the sentiment in a statement on January 22, saying that it saw no evidence that the vaccine had contributed to the deaths. In yet another statement, Pfizer told The British Medical Journal that it is working with Noma to investigate the deaths, but that "the number of incidents so far is not alarming, and in line with expectations”.
Determining whether the Norwegian deaths are truly a cause for concern means putting these seemingly scary numbers into context. In Norway, an estimated 45 people die in nursing homes or similar institutions every week. The country also has a low threshold for reporting adverse vaccination reactions, encouraging healthcare providers to report possible reactions even when any causal relationship is very unclear. "It is not a given that [the number of deaths] represents any excess mortality or that there is a causal connection," said Camilla Stoltenberg, head of the Norwegian Institute of Public Health, at a press conference on January 18.
“We absolutely shouldn't confuse the very normal and natural deaths that will happen to older and more frail people with the consequences of the vaccine,” cautions Stuart McDonald, a fellow of the Institute of and Faculty Actuaries and co-founder of the Covid-19 Actuaries Response Group.
If you put the Norwegian deaths in perspective, a very different picture begins to emerge. The UK, for example, has a very large number of people aged 80 and over, and as a result that group makes up a sizeable chunk of total deaths in the country.
“In the next twelve months, I would expect around 335,000 deaths of people 80-plus, and I'd also expect around 30,000 deaths in care homes [of people aged under 80],” McDonald adds. “So, if we look just at the top two priority groups [for the vaccine] and expect around 365,000 deaths in the next year – which is about 1,000 a day – now that's actually about six out of ten UK deaths. And it's more than one in ten of the people that were vaccinated.” In short: we can expect to see a high number of deaths in this age group in the next few months, regardless of whether they’ve had the vaccine or not – and we should be careful not to draw cause and effect.
Although these deaths in severely ill elderly people weren’t unexpected, it doesn’t mean that all older people are necessarily at the end of their lives. The life expectancy in the UK for males aged 85 is about six years; seven years for females. Approximately one in ten will actually live for about 12 to 13 more years. Age has also been shown to be the biggest factor in an individual’s likelihood of dying from Covid-19. The greatest risk for severe illness from the disease falls onto those in this exact age bracket, particularly those in aged care facilities.
By Grace Browne
More than one in three deaths from Covid-19 in the UK have been people aged over 85, despite people in that group making up just over two per cent of the population. The skewed profile of Covid-19 mean that the benefits still far outweigh the risks of the vaccine – although some people will sadly die soon after their vaccinations, many others stand to gain years of healthy life.
“What they’ve presented out of Norway appears to be consistent with normal life, and not with vaccine-induced issues,” says Helen Keipp Talbot, associate professor of medicine at Vanderbilt University, who studies vaccines in older adults and advises the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on vaccine use. “I think it's really a matter of being aware that death is common in a nursing home.”
Talbot was the sole vote against making long-term care residents near the top of the list for the vaccine in the US. Not because she actually objected to the vaccine, but because this population normally has a high rate of medical events anyway, and that any deaths that would most likely occur, vaccine or not, could potentially compromise trust in the vaccines.
She says it’s inevitable that we will see more news stories like this one in the coming months, and transparency about any mortality after vaccination will be the best approach to ensure that people do not latch onto these stories and to use them as ammunition against the vaccine. “We need to be prepared to talk about death,” Talbot says.
Whether this part of the population should even be receiving the vaccine in the first place is another question that this story has raised. “Personally, I was a bit surprised they even gave them the vaccine,” says Heidi Larson, director of the Vaccine Confidence Project at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, because if an individual is very sick or has extreme allergies, then the advice cautions against vaccinating them. “And now, we have clear evidence that if you've got a terminally ill or near death person that you're considering vaccinating, it’s probably not recommended.”
Larson too expects to see more and more stories like this in the future. “I think there's probably going to be more cases of coincidental issues that turn out to be unrelated to the vaccine, just because of the sheer numbers of people we’re vaccinating.”
It's funny how all these COVID doomsday twats bang on about how those who are going out are "selfish" and have no consideration for others without any critical thought on things such as the inflation of death rates even though people die everyday from other things but the fact that people are dying and getting very ill from the vaccine en masse doesn't seem to inflict any worry on them whatsoever. Seriously, are human lives to these people disposable once it breaks their narrative?
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>"Think the coof isn't that serious? Well people in nursing homes are dying every week!"
Norway’s elderly Covid-19 vaccine deaths aren’t what they seem
33 elderly people in Norway died shortly after receiving their Covid-19 vaccine, but a quick look at the numbers will tell you why this shouldn't be surprising.
By Grace Brown
Tuesday 26 January 2021
Getty Images / WIRED
When reports emerged from Norway about a handful of deaths amongst people who had received the Covid-19 vaccine, vocal vaccine deniers were quick to pounce on the news.
On January 14, the Norwegian Medicines Agency (Noma) reported that 23 people had died after receiving their first dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine. Those who died were described as having severe underlying health conditions and were all aged 75 or over. (The number of deaths has since risen to 33, out of about 55,000 people who have received the first dose of the vaccine in the country.)
The deaths made international headlines, raising alarm that the (typically mild) side effects of the vaccine could cause the elderly who receive it to die. Fox News commentator Jan Morgan posted the news story to Facebook with the caption: “23 die within hours of taking COVID vaccine. ... I’ve never taken a flu shot and I’m certainly NOT letting anyone inject this garbage in to my body.” (The deaths actually happened within six days of the vaccine, according to a statement from the Norwegian Institute of Public Health.)
In Noma’s statement, Sigurd Hortemo, the agency’s chief physician, said that “we cannot rule out that common adverse reactions, such as fever and nausea, may contribute to a more serious course and fatal outcome in some frail patients with severe underlying diseases.” But on January 19, the Norwegian Institute of Public Health released a statement saying that no link had been established between Pfizer/BioNTech's vaccine and any post-vaccination deaths in the country. The World Health Organisation (WHO) echoed the sentiment in a statement on January 22, saying that it saw no evidence that the vaccine had contributed to the deaths. In yet another statement, Pfizer told The British Medical Journal that it is working with Noma to investigate the deaths, but that "the number of incidents so far is not alarming, and in line with expectations”.
Determining whether the Norwegian deaths are truly a cause for concern means putting these seemingly scary numbers into context. In Norway, an estimated 45 people die in nursing homes or similar institutions every week. The country also has a low threshold for reporting adverse vaccination reactions, encouraging healthcare providers to report possible reactions even when any causal relationship is very unclear. "It is not a given that [the number of deaths] represents any excess mortality or that there is a causal connection," said Camilla Stoltenberg, head of the Norwegian Institute of Public Health, at a press conference on January 18.
“We absolutely shouldn't confuse the very normal and natural deaths that will happen to older and more frail people with the consequences of the vaccine,” cautions Stuart McDonald, a fellow of the Institute of and Faculty Actuaries and co-founder of the Covid-19 Actuaries Response Group.
If you put the Norwegian deaths in perspective, a very different picture begins to emerge. The UK, for example, has a very large number of people aged 80 and over, and as a result that group makes up a sizeable chunk of total deaths in the country.
“In the next twelve months, I would expect around 335,000 deaths of people 80-plus, and I'd also expect around 30,000 deaths in care homes [of people aged under 80],” McDonald adds. “So, if we look just at the top two priority groups [for the vaccine] and expect around 365,000 deaths in the next year – which is about 1,000 a day – now that's actually about six out of ten UK deaths. And it's more than one in ten of the people that were vaccinated.” In short: we can expect to see a high number of deaths in this age group in the next few months, regardless of whether they’ve had the vaccine or not – and we should be careful not to draw cause and effect.
Although these deaths in severely ill elderly people weren’t unexpected, it doesn’t mean that all older people are necessarily at the end of their lives. The life expectancy in the UK for males aged 85 is about six years; seven years for females. Approximately one in ten will actually live for about 12 to 13 more years. Age has also been shown to be the biggest factor in an individual’s likelihood of dying from Covid-19. The greatest risk for severe illness from the disease falls onto those in this exact age bracket, particularly those in aged care facilities.
By Grace Browne
More than one in three deaths from Covid-19 in the UK have been people aged over 85, despite people in that group making up just over two per cent of the population. The skewed profile of Covid-19 mean that the benefits still far outweigh the risks of the vaccine – although some people will sadly die soon after their vaccinations, many others stand to gain years of healthy life.
“What they’ve presented out of Norway appears to be consistent with normal life, and not with vaccine-induced issues,” says Helen Keipp Talbot, associate professor of medicine at Vanderbilt University, who studies vaccines in older adults and advises the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on vaccine use. “I think it's really a matter of being aware that death is common in a nursing home.”
Talbot was the sole vote against making long-term care residents near the top of the list for the vaccine in the US. Not because she actually objected to the vaccine, but because this population normally has a high rate of medical events anyway, and that any deaths that would most likely occur, vaccine or not, could potentially compromise trust in the vaccines.
She says it’s inevitable that we will see more news stories like this one in the coming months, and transparency about any mortality after vaccination will be the best approach to ensure that people do not latch onto these stories and to use them as ammunition against the vaccine. “We need to be prepared to talk about death,” Talbot says.
Whether this part of the population should even be receiving the vaccine in the first place is another question that this story has raised. “Personally, I was a bit surprised they even gave them the vaccine,” says Heidi Larson, director of the Vaccine Confidence Project at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, because if an individual is very sick or has extreme allergies, then the advice cautions against vaccinating them. “And now, we have clear evidence that if you've got a terminally ill or near death person that you're considering vaccinating, it’s probably not recommended.”
Larson too expects to see more and more stories like this in the future. “I think there's probably going to be more cases of coincidental issues that turn out to be unrelated to the vaccine, just because of the sheer numbers of people we’re vaccinating.”
It's funny how all these COVID doomsday twats bang on about how those who are going out are "selfish" and have no consideration for others without any critical thought on things such as the inflation of death rates even though people die everyday from other things but the fact that people are dying and getting very ill from the vaccine en masse doesn't seem to inflict any worry on them whatsoever. Seriously, are human lives to these people disposable once it breaks their narrative?
>olds get the vaccine
>a bunch of deaths in a suspect time frame after getting the vaccine
>"oh yeah well people in nursing homes die like every week so this isn't surprising"
The people who used nursing home deaths to project COVID as more lethal than it actually is are ass-mad that antivaxxers are using nursing home deaths to make the vaccine look more lethal.
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These people have no awareness on what they're speaking about whatsoever. If the elderly are dying every week in nursing homes, why aren't they asking how we can limit the deaths by maintaining a protocol for staff and visitors or sanitizing the nursing homes and or find another solution to these places that obviously aren't working? But no, they have their heads so far up their arses that they're always right and everybody who disagrees with them or criticizes them is an ignorant antivaxxer and conspiracy theorist.>"Think the coof isn't that serious? Well people in nursing homes are dying every week!"
>olds get the vaccine
>a bunch of deaths in a suspect time frame after getting the vaccine
>"oh yeah well people in nursing homes die like every week so this isn't surprising"
The people who used nursing home deaths to project COVID as more lethal than it actually is are ass-mad that antivaxxers are using nursing home deaths to make the vaccine look more lethal.
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Oh, now we care about underlying conditions and old age. Riiiiight.
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Instead of returning its stockpile of HCQ, Oklahoma should let those from other states who forbid HCQ buying it.
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People who actually spend time around them realize it, but the media has this weird habit of only showing the approved type of
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I agree, statistics are good, now let's put those seemingly scary COVID-19 case and death numbers that get blared out everywhere in the proper context.
Those approved Latinx people (i.e. Democrat voting open borders activists) are the only Latinx people, all the other so-called "Latinx" people are actually white people like George Zimmerman.
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Enrique Tarrio is super-white. I don't know what you're talking about. Look at his pure Aryan features:
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