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Just to confirm. This was a fan mod, which means everyone was doing this for free, right?
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The git repository, as promised
Fully public, all branches present (PW, EN, Toolbox Theory) - find something for yourself. Cloning the repository is encouraged.
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Yes, they managed to LARP their way into a modern stanford prison experiment except that instead of LARPing as a Prison they are LARPing the Fuhrerprinzip system.Just to confirm. This was a fan mod, which means everyone was doing this for free, right?
Panzer managed to make a good critique of authoritarism, just not in the way he wantedI've been trawling through the leaked dev communication and organization files for TNO that was posted earlier. The form only has complaints from October from when Panzer was still lead dev to the 26th of January this year. So unfortunately there are no reaction to the recent doxes. In the TNO Review Forum, there is a very common pattern of complaints. (any image without a time stamp has been cut up because of its length or applying to other sections of this post)
Such as team leads expressing that they rarely have an opportunity to do any team leading and that they're referred to as "foot soldiers' because all they do is compile reports and are largely uninvolved or unaware of development ongoings for their own department. The implication seems to be that this is the case for a majority of teams. 3 images
Lack of understanding of team structure and the powers of each role due to such things not being properly outlined and readily available. As well as a lack of communication 6 images
Rampant complaints about crunch culture, inactive devs and high level developers mistreating team members. These are by far the most prominent complaint. 16 images
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PinkPanzer's (former lead dev) rampant inactivity before they stepped down and him being the face of the mod despite rarely working on it. 6 images
Aspects of the mod being developed in secret by developers coding in secret. Particularly Reinhard's story causing significant trouble. (he gets a redemption arch, destorys burgundy and germany and kills himself after assuming power in his victory of the German civil war after Hitler dies) 5 images
Discontent with the development path and content of certain nations and areas. 3 images
Misc shit relating to the Discord, its moderation, and complaints about TNO's story for personal reasons.
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Need to type this one out because the retard who brought it up doesn't know how to format shit and let it run on so it can't be gotten in a single screenshot.
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View attachment 1887775 "I feel the need to express my dissatisfaction with the way that Maarshalker's situation was handled. While I trust the mods' decision to ban Toaster, I do think it should be obvious that the victim of the harassment (Maarsh) should have been consulted before action was taken, at the very least as a heads up. This wasn't done, leading to Maarsh seemingly panicking and the victim in the situation being muted for an hour in all channels and being told to "take a seat, dude." This situation spiraled out of control over the next 24 hours and devolved into Maarsh's suicidal threats and idealizations until he had to be removed from the team.
I won't defend Maarsh's threats, nor defend his place on the team after he made them, but the lack of support offered to him after he was the victim of harassment seems like at best a drastic oversight and at worst a callous disregard for the individual we should be taking action to protect. This becomes doubly true when you consider our channel, #snowflakes_anonymous, which theoritcally should be used for additional support to those going through difficult mental struggles, whose purpose was seemingly ignored in the proceedings (besides being the location of some drama that unfolded) Maarsh had posted for months in- (cuts off the scream because they're a retard and that part is lost) Does this mean we ought to have ignored Maarsh's threats or that the mod team is at fault for his suicidal messages? Absolutely not, but to pretend like nothing more could have been done is far from the truth, and I was hoping that the team says that it provides a safe place for it's members would do so properly.
In short, while I understand the punishments involved all around, I'm displeased with the team's rough handling of a sensitive individual, and hope that some kind of lesson is learned to prevent this type of situation in the future."
The gist of it is that there is a complete lack of organized systems and communication between teams to get anything done in regards to management outside of individual dev chats and limited individual documentation of each nation. Leading to huge amounts of work being thrown out, veoted or spontantiously reworked at any time. The actual coders rarely do work, doubly so for the higher up individuals. Crunch culture and mistreatment is extremely prominent in a video game mod and widely used by the higher ups due to their disorganized structure and demanding deadlines combined with how seriously the higher-ups take it. Also the Discord mods are gay.
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Ban deathcount is 60+ and rising rapidly, dev team is undergoing purges too.
>dev team purgeBan deathcount is 60+ and rising rapidly, dev team is undergoing purges too.
Anabaptists and other social and religious radicals notably Thomas Müntzer did appear during the German Peasant's War in the wake of the heresiarch Luther (although as a wordsmith of Bible and hymn he had no equal in Germany) who became even more bloodthirsty (from behind a desk and in words only) to rebelling peasants who sought his blessing, than he was towards Jews. During the War there were some short lived peasant or craftsmen ruled polities. These were socially radical in a world of lords, prince bishops and arrogant urban oligarchies, but making it proto-Communist just is not right. The German Bible was their constitution.The concept of socialism existing before the French revolution is nonsense. The terms for political left and right didn't even exist before then.
There were some early movements like the Diggers, but having a socialist republic in the 16th century is anachronistic.
No, in most places it is legal.wait, is doxing something police will check?
i did not do any dox, i only watched this thread
>dev team purge
the team member count has literally only gone up (210 to 211) since this shit started. stop larping as some great hero destroying the mod lmao
I've been trawling through the leaked dev communication and organization files for TNO that was posted earlier. The form only has complaints from October from when Panzer was still lead dev to the 26th of January this year. So unfortunately there are no reaction to the recent doxes. In the TNO Review Forum, there is a very common pattern of complaints. (any image without a time stamp has been cut up because of its length or applying to other sections of this post)
Such as team leads expressing that they rarely have an opportunity to do any team leading and that they're referred to as "foot soldiers' because all they do is compile reports and are largely uninvolved or unaware of development ongoings for their own department. The implication seems to be that this is the case for a majority of teams. 3 images
Lack of understanding of team structure and the powers of each role due to such things not being properly outlined and readily available. As well as a lack of communication 6 images
Rampant complaints about crunch culture, inactive devs and high level developers mistreating team members. These are by far the most prominent complaint. 16 images
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PinkPanzer's (former lead dev) rampant inactivity before they stepped down and him being the face of the mod despite rarely working on it. 6 images
Aspects of the mod being developed in secret by developers coding in secret. Particularly Reinhard's story causing significant trouble. (he gets a redemption arch, destorys burgundy and germany and kills himself after assuming power in his victory of the German civil war after Hitler dies) 5 images
Discontent with the development path and content of certain nations and areas. 3 images
Misc shit relating to the Discord, its moderation, and complaints about TNO's story for personal reasons.
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Need to type this one out because the retard who brought it up doesn't know how to format shit and let it run on so it can't be gotten in a single screenshot.
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View attachment 1887775 "I feel the need to express my dissatisfaction with the way that Maarshalker's situation was handled. While I trust the mods' decision to ban Toaster, I do think it should be obvious that the victim of the harassment (Maarsh) should have been consulted before action was taken, at the very least as a heads up. This wasn't done, leading to Maarsh seemingly panicking and the victim in the situation being muted for an hour in all channels and being told to "take a seat, dude." This situation spiraled out of control over the next 24 hours and devolved into Maarsh's suicidal threats and idealizations until he had to be removed from the team.
I won't defend Maarsh's threats, nor defend his place on the team after he made them, but the lack of support offered to him after he was the victim of harassment seems like at best a drastic oversight and at worst a callous disregard for the individual we should be taking action to protect. This becomes doubly true when you consider our channel, #snowflakes_anonymous, which theoritcally should be used for additional support to those going through difficult mental struggles, whose purpose was seemingly ignored in the proceedings (besides being the location of some drama that unfolded) Maarsh had posted for months in- (cuts off the scream because they're a retard and that part is lost) Does this mean we ought to have ignored Maarsh's threats or that the mod team is at fault for his suicidal messages? Absolutely not, but to pretend like nothing more could have been done is far from the truth, and I was hoping that the team says that it provides a safe place for it's members would do so properly.
In short, while I understand the punishments involved all around, I'm displeased with the team's rough handling of a sensitive individual, and hope that some kind of lesson is learned to prevent this type of situation in the future."
The gist of it is that there is a complete lack of organized systems and communication between teams to get anything done in regards to management outside of individual dev chats and limited individual documentation of each nation. Leading to huge amounts of work being thrown out, veoted or spontantiously reworked at any time. The actual coders rarely do work, doubly so for the higher up individuals. Crunch culture and mistreatment is extremely prominent in a video game mod and widely used by the higher ups due to their disorganized structure and demanding deadlines combined with how seriously the higher-ups take it. Also the Discord mods are gay.
Not entirely true, there was only ever one lead developer, panzer, then Pacifica, and then Valrin, who both left. However all the other department leads are still in. The github was deleted long ago since they moved to Gitlab. Definitely a big drama but it's got nothing on the entire dev team sans Panzer making a secret server to make fun of his development decisionsThe TNO development leadership has totally collapsed, the github repository has been deleted as well.
Every single lead developer in TNO has quit and other senior developers are calling for purges.
Only Jacob can fix this shit, but he won't bother with TNO for sure - he has Godherja to fuck with already.
7 or so years to develop, and just one night to crumble entirely.
Mistook github and gitlab, that's on me. It was actually done on gitlab, as shown in this postThe github was deleted long ago since they moved to Gitlab.
As far as I am told the development structure is a bit retarded with those - those are not like Lead Developers and don't have the permissions of Lead Developers.However all the other department leads are still in.
They were not exactly "purged", but rather just got their roles stripped and let to work on their parts anyway. Some people (for example - Pacifica) actually managed to get back in.which resulted in the entire dev chats being leaked and half the team being purged
That'll be interesting to spectate, to be honest.like the Black Knight from Monty Python - they'll keep going on, somehow.
A dude wrote in the chat that neo-nazis are cringe (which is true), and I replied that far left isn't much better. Guess who got banned and who didn'tThe TNO discord is going to shit fast. People are getting banned now simply for making fun of the devs.