Plagued /r/TNOmod and the Reddit HOI4 modding community - When a subreddit for a video game mod turns to utter insanity

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succmin said:
I'm 90% certain Panzer had a part in the writing of the initial Presidential candidates for 64. The current US team leader (Doc) admitted that he only had real control of the direction of the 68 and 72 candidates which probably explains why they're a bit better in terms of character portrayal. That's why the writing for the 64 presidents greatly misinterprets their characters. RFK is an obvious one as you mention, but so is Wallace, who's portrayed as this brash hard drinking cowboy with a short fuse and the mouth of a sailor. As someone who has actually read up on Wallace (like books and articles from the time not the Wikipedia shit) it is such a blatant misinterpretation of the man he actually was that no one other than Panzer could possibly fuck up such a thing.

I feel like the Democrat candidates are portrayed as fairly middle of the road conservatives. What really sets me off is their portrayal of the FR NPP, which has (aside from southern democrats/dixiecrats) otl Reagan allies, Birchers, generals, neocons, and pro-business elements all in a way to make it seem like this melting pot of moderate to extremist conservatism with no real direction. Essentially just taking anything that tankies, succdems, and socialist LARPs might hate and just grouping them into one party wing. Its just some really skewed shit to the point in which the TNO fandom just views them as "goons" or "scum" (do I need to point out the irony here when RFK uses COINTELPRO or when Herrington enforces federal civil rights legislation so radical it fucks up American society?)

Also if you look in the files to see the FR senators, they got fucking Roy Cohn and William Buckley (who was literally a backer of Goldwater might I add and alluded to as one in one of Wallace's foci) as NY senators. So do with that what you will.
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I'm hoping that the US team lead asserts himself a bit more in the US since he seems to be a bit better in writing the US content than the others (wouldn't be surprised if turning the FR NPP into neo-segregationists was a move to make even Hall and the NPP-L look better by Freddy/others). Shame that the "Culture Wars" mechanic seemed promising too, since the team probably will explode before getting anywhere close to it or release it after 4 years and when TNO has faded from relevancy.
 
Grave Ghost said:
The ONLY thing LA had going for it when I lived there during uni was the easy access to wacky tobacky and decently attractive Asian and Mexican girls. Other wise it was a giant dumpster fire that makes the worst shitholes seem nice.

Also I feel like giving some of the devs who are lurking some kind and thoughtful words!
Pacifica: you will never be a woman, you simply do not pass at all, and I wonder how it must feel knowing that the only men who will ever give you a chance are the legitimate sickos who want to bang a shemale. Not a good look!
Panzer: I can't wait to see you sperg out when the Rooskies and Nazis make way better versions of TNO then you ever could! Also I hope the ghost of Oskar Dirlewanger haunts and torments your Polak ass every night for removing Park and his soundtrack just because he was waycis!!! You know damn well that his music fit the mod perfectly but you had to fuck it up!

PS: most of us in this thread are in your server too! I hope this facts gives you even more paranoia and forces you to lose trust in your whole community!
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I'll throw in my two cents for my former "comrades-in-arms" as well. From what I've seen their jannies usually observe drama spots like these even if their slave-masters are busy.

Panzer left because he was tired of the HoI4 community and its maelstrom of autistic fuckery, but most importantly he was sick of the constant drama surrounding TNO. It ground his morale and ambition and passion for his mod into the fucking dirt. So he thought he could escape TNO and fuck off to CK3 permanently, but he refuses to acknowledge that TNO will be the only major "achievement" he will acomplish online (For all its autism TNO is a pretty unique setting, Godherja is just le dark fantasy world #21143132453), and no amount of denial will change that.

Now, many of you can still escape this team and all of its troony retardation. Testers, greytides, artists, contribs, hell even jannies, etc. If you aren't completely brainwashed by the higher ups, I would advise you get the fuck out now, while you still can. Before it eats you alive.

But for you, devs? Calph? Pacifica? Valrin? Barge? Het (Mura is a fucking retarded cat btw)? Dread?

You're stuck on a sinking ship. Hearts of Iron IV is a dying game, and its death is exacerbated even further by the constant autism surrounding its community, its awful gameplay, and Paradox pumping out shitty DLC after DLC. TNO has always been, and always will be, a drama magnet that you will never escape from. Unlike Panzer, you can not simply ditch TNO (and even then this mod will haunt him for the rest of his online life).

You will be stuck with the constant unending leaking, doxing, death threats, petty development drama, and another million Speer hoodie / /r/tnoporn / Kovner-Meinhof worship / "Get on the desk" moments from your braindead community for the rest of your mod's shitty life cycle. This thread only solidifies that fact. And it will not stop haunting you until you either can't take it anymore and you leave it to some other poor bastard like Panzer did, or when you finally decide to kill it off for good.

As for your message, your community will ignore your half-assed statement about extremism and will continue to meme about the next big genocidal dictator that you cook up in your half-baked troonjerk channels. You're broadcasting to a brick wall. And you'll continue stomping on anyone that doesn't lick janny boots until you have no one left but a gaggle of yes men. So in short: uninstall HoI4, turn off your computer, and actually go do something worthwhile with your life other than tinkering with a WW2 autismo-sim. Oh, and I'd advise not cutting off your dick, because you'll never pass.

Anyways, I'm looking forward to the future of this thread. It's gon b gud.
 
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FreshThrowawayKiwi said:
I'll throw in my two cents for my former "comrades-in-arms" as well. From what I've seen their jannies usually observe drama spots like these even if their slave-masters are busy.

Panzer left because he was tired of the HoI4 community and its maelstrom of autistic fuckery, but most importantly he was sick of the constant drama surrounding TNO. It ground his morale and ambition and passion for his mod into the fucking dirt. So he thought he could escape TNO and fuck off to CK3 permanently, but he refuses to acknowledge that TNO will be the only major "achievement" he will acomplish online (For all its autism TNO is a pretty unique setting, Godherja is just le dark fantasy world #21143132453), and no amount of denial will change that.

Now, many of you can still escape this team and all of its troony retardation. Testers, greytides, artists, contribs, hell even jannies, etc. If you aren't completely brainwashed by the higher ups, I would advise you get the fuck out now, while you still can. Before it eats you alive.

But for you, devs? Calph? Pacifica? Valrin? Barge? Het (Mura is a fucking retarded cat btw)? Dread?

You're stuck on a sinking ship. Hearts of Iron IV is a dying game, and its death is exacerbated even further by the constant autism surrounding its community, its awful gameplay, and Paradox pumping out shitty DLC after DLC. TNO has always been, and always will be, a drama magnet that you will never escape from. Unlike Panzer, you can not simply ditch TNO (and even then this mod will haunt him for the rest of his online life).

You will be stuck with the constant unending leaking, doxing, death threats, petty development drama, and another million Speer hoodie / /r/tnoporn / Kovner-Meinhof worship / "Get on the desk" moments from your braindead community for the rest of your mod's shitty life cycle. This thread only solidifies that fact. And it will not stop haunting you until you either can't take it anymore and you leave it to some other poor bastard like Panzer did, or when you finally decide to kill it off for good.

As for your message, your community will ignore your half-assed statement about extremism and will continue to meme about the next big genocidal dictator that you cook up in your half-baked troonjerk channels. You're broadcasting to a brick wall. And you'll continue stomping on anyone that doesn't lick janny boots until you have no one left but a gaggle of yes men. So in short: uninstall HoI4, turn off your computer, and actually go do something worthwhile with your life other than tinkering with a WW2 autismo-sim. Oh, and I'd advise not cutting off your dick, because you'll never pass.

Anyways, I'm looking forward to the future of this thread. It's gon b gud.
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What made you realize that TNO wasn't worth working on along with being a troonjerk? I'm curious if other team members have the chance to realize over time, or if you just woke up to the truth one day. (also if you don't mind stating which role tends to have the most troons on it, writers, coders, artists, testers?)
 
Taker Of Piss said:
What made you realize that TNO wasn't worth working on along with being a troonjerk? I'm curious if other team members have the chance to realize over time, or if you just woke up to the truth one day. (also if you don't mind stating which role tends to have the most troons on it, writers, coders, artists, testers?)
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Honestly I'd consider it post-nut clarity. I was pretty ambivalent about the team during my time there (I was a writer, or greytide as they call them). It was only after I left that I came to realize how insane they were. To be fair though, there were quite a few that weren't completely trooned out of their skulls and were just there to improve their own skills in modding. A large portion of the troons were higher up in rank, such as seniors, developers, etc.

As to troon proportions, it was a pretty even spread across every department, but if I had to pick one that was especially nuts, I'd say it was the writers.
 
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Having used to live close to NYC, I can say this moron has never experienced what it's like. NYC may be a "melting pot" but people are still segregated into their communities. Compared to the city as a whole, places like Washington Heights, Chinatown, and Brighton Beach are hardly diverse. Not only that, no matter what the media likes to portray, every ethic group fucked with each other. It's not some happy diverse utopia and probably still isn't today. People of similar culture naturally form insular communities, it's nature.

Also that border talk, Solo Wing Pixy's ideals were not meant to be taken into the real world buddy :story:
 
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The only decent writing that came out of TNO was possibly Speer gameplay, mainly the "Third Option" where he takes out the GO4 and Sidelines Oblander and friends. IT's the only thing outside of the Russian warlords, (not all of them, loking at you SBA and Sablin, and that whore commie in Komi) I'd keep.
 
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Damn, totally destroyed xddddddd.
 
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FreshThrowawayKiwi said:
You're stuck on a sinking ship. Hearts of Iron IV is a dying game, and its death is exacerbated even further by the constant autism surrounding its community, its awful gameplay, and Paradox pumping out shitty DLC after DLC.
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This is standard Paradox, though. We saw it in HOI3, where basic problems were never fixed and we just got several DLC that added new stuff nobody asked for and OH LOOK IT'S TIME FOR HOI4
It's increasingly clear that HOI5 is just around the corner. Maybe not announcement-wise, but dev wise definately. Paradox is looking at HOI4 and saying to itself "there's so much unfixable at the base level, better start all over and release the same features as DLC once again". HOI is a barbarossa simulator, nothing more. It cannot handle the pacific, it can't handle the battle of britain, it can't handle north africa or the atlantic, and it can BARELY handle D-Day. Only just barely. No matter how hard you scream on the paradox forums, they'll never add features that will make these theatres remotely playable or worth fighting in - just look at North Africa, in real life it was all about the oil fields but really there's nothing in the Middle East or Africa worth figthing for and is better off ignored for an all-or-nothing invasion of the UK proper - instead they'll just add two or three focus trees at a time over several years, while modders prove that you can easily make and test a focus tree in the course of a week.

It's all a sick joke. All of it. In some ways that's why TNO got so much attention, it promised a bunch of new systems and mechanics that were leagues above what Paradox farted out in between scratching its bum. We could easily have super events and complex logistical systems that make a battle for the Atlantic/Pacific island hopping worth doing, but no instead it's always going to be "send army to capture enemy capital". Because that's all Paradox's Barbarossa simulator is meant to be. Capture Moscow/Capture Berlin.
I absolutely will not be buying HOI5 when it comes out. Because fuck it, I have better uses of my time.
 
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