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@Holden tried to message me on here (again).
This is what he has to say...for some reason he wants it in a message, not on the forum. Don't know why.


All I can say is this. Holden, your misery is self inflicted. No one is inflicting this suffering on you.
People are alone. It happens. Whether or not you can deal with it and be happy by yourself is your own choosing.

I feel like Holden is one of those people that hates being alone because he hates himself. He probably annoys himself for being so weak and useless. He's so sad because he can't understand why no one else will fill this hole in his life....not even considering that he can fill that hole himself if he just tries.

Switching places with you would not make you happy Holden. Because you would still have the midset you have now. Switching places infers that you are keeping your brain while going into someone else's body or scenario (with your own mindset).

So, if I HAD to switch places with your; I'd be ok. Because my mindset is that I'm ok with being alone. I don't need someone else to make me happy. Sure, I'd love to have a partner, but I'm not killing myself over it..... and to be honest, as a guy, I'd probably have a lot more female lover options than I do as a woman. So maybe it would be a plus.

So what about knowing you are expected to fund women being killed and raped? How would you handle that?

This thread always reminds me of this. Except the South Park goth kids are much cooler than Fuckbot.

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So what about knowing you are expected to fund women being killed and raped? How would you handle that?
I already work; so I guess I'm already funding women being raped and killed.
Apparently, Holden thinks that women working and funding the bad behavior of other women is ok...so I guess a woman's mind in a Holden-manchild body is a similar if not directly comparable situation.

To be fair...if I was a Holden..with my brain/mindset...I could find a girlfriend/wife in a matter of months. Just got to shower, have proper hygiene, treat women with respect, have a nice job to pay for nice things; etc. It's really not hard.
 
He also posted to my profile, asking what he'd lied about. I was very tempted to respond "What have you not lied about?" but shit, lying about being a successful rapist in the middle of an interview in an attempt to scare a woman on another continent, when he hasn't got the money to fly across the ocean (and neither do I, but he's been made aware that if I did, I'd be visiting a country where some of my ancestors lived, and his isn't on the list) kind of takes the cake for "Worst Prior Planning of Effect of a Lie." I was meant to be scared but was more like "Get tae fuck wi ye" as far as completing his wiki edits. (What? I'm trans-Glaswegian. It only affects me when I really need to swear.) The one about having a dog wins for "Most Depressing Lie." Because if I can't have a dog, and I cannot because my landlord is a dick instead of being my parents, then maybe somebody could have a dog. But there is no dog. Anyway, you see the problem: he does it so compulsively and reflexively, guarding a horribly damaged sense of self, that you could make an entire annual award ceremony with different categories for the lies presented over two-and-change threads.

@Holden, something happened to you before you were even old enough to be interested in girls. Something convinced you that you weren't worthy of love. That's why it freaked you out so much to get a positive response on a text dating service that you screamed and threw your cellie under the couch. I'm not going to ask what it was in public. If you ever want to tell me, send me a PM. There is quite a lot you've said to me that's gone unshared, which is to be expected when one thread of PMs from you in my inbox is now eight pages long. I have no energy to screencap all that. Anyway, I hope you understand that I get to have my own opinions, and one of those is that if you went to a therapist (not the same one who... you know) and said firmly, "Doctor, my trauma is this, and that led to these other upsetting events. Please help me get past them and lead a productive life," you could. It would take time, effort, and pain. But when a question about what your favorite parks, sports, etc. might be leads to the agonized statement, "I don't like speaking about myself," I know the trauma is something early and deep. Whatever it was, I am sorry about it and hope you can break out of these repetitive thought patterns about how all women, etc. etc.

I don't quite have trust issues to the extent of wanting to lock Mr. Horse in a rather tall cage, but I have issues; they exist; they are taking work to get rid of; and I do it because I'm trying to make my life better from the inside out. I think many of us here have reached out for help at one time or another. Many of us also have what you want, namely productive and permanent relationships with no cheating, no hurting the other person, and all that. @The Dude has kids, as do others. It is not easy. I'm not lying when I tell you it's possible, so I'm going to continue not lying: relationships are difficult. It's not just coming home from the office, taking off your tie/bra/whatever, and having your spouse pour you a martini. And here's the kicker: the best relationships are those in which each participant has some amount of love for themselves. I hope you get to that point, man. It's better to have three people really care about you than ten thousand people know who you are but think you're a dick because all they see are your defense mechanisms. Try for the first one. The second one is working out poorly.
 
He also posted to my profile, asking what he'd lied about. I was very tempted to respond "What have you not lied about?" but shit, lying about being a successful rapist in the middle of an interview in an attempt to scare a woman on another continent, when he hasn't got the money to fly across the ocean (and neither do I, but he's been made aware that if I did, I'd be visiting a country where some of my ancestors lived, and his isn't on the list) kind of takes the cake for "Worst Prior Planning of Effect of a Lie." I was meant to be scared but was more like "Get tae fuck wi ye" as far as completing his wiki edits. (What? I'm trans-Glaswegian. It only affects me when I really need to swear.) The one about having a dog wins for "Most Depressing Lie." Because if I can't have a dog, and I cannot because my landlord is a dick instead of being my parents, then maybe somebody could have a dog. But there is no dog. Anyway, you see the problem: he does it so compulsively and reflexively, guarding a horribly damaged sense of self, that you could make an entire annual award ceremony with different categories for the lies presented over two-and-change threads.

@Holden, something happened to you before you were even old enough to be interested in girls. Something convinced you that you weren't worthy of love. That's why it freaked you out so much to get a positive response on a text dating service that you screamed and threw your cellie under the couch. I'm not going to ask what it was in public. If you ever want to tell me, send me a PM. There is quite a lot you've said to me that's gone unshared, which is to be expected when one thread of PMs from you in my inbox is now eight pages long. I have no energy to screencap all that. Anyway, I hope you understand that I get to have my own opinions, and one of those is that if you went to a therapist (not the same one who... you know) and said firmly, "Doctor, my trauma is this, and that led to these other upsetting events. Please help me get past them and lead a productive life," you could. It would take time, effort, and pain. But when a question about what your favorite parks, sports, etc. might be leads to the agonized statement, "I don't like speaking about myself," I know the trauma is something early and deep. Whatever it was, I am sorry about it and hope you can break out of these repetitive thought patterns about how all women, etc. etc.

I don't quite have trust issues to the extent of wanting to lock Mr. Horse in a rather tall cage, but I have issues; they exist; they are taking work to get rid of; and I do it because I'm trying to make my life better from the inside out. I think many of us here have reached out for help at one time or another. Many of us also have what you want, namely productive and permanent relationships with no cheating, no hurting the other person, and all that. @The Dude has kids, as do others. It is not easy. I'm not lying when I tell you it's possible, so I'm going to continue not lying: relationships are difficult. It's not just coming home from the office, taking off your tie/bra/whatever, and having your spouse pour you a martini. And here's the kicker: the best relationships are those in which each participant has some amount of love for themselves. I hope you get to that point, man. It's better to have three people really care about you than ten thousand people know who you are but think you're a dick because all they see are your defense mechanisms. Try for the first one. The second one is working out poorly.
It's sometimes difficult to figure out if he even knows what he says is true or not. He gets tripped up and caught in very juvenile lies, and most of it is "Why lie about that?" It seems needlessly complicated.

He does admit to being clingy, so he does want love and attention... I kind of got the impression that he never got the attention he wanted and looked for other ways to fill the void, but doesn't know how to handle it when someone is genuinely being kind to him. -- But on the other hand, it comes off as somewhat spoiled in some ways? With the Chris level of entitlement to women.

Maybe he's a Pushmi-Pullyu! Contrary, but loves music and dancing... And only wants to work under certain circumstances.
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He also posted to my profile, asking what he'd lied about. I was very tempted to respond "What have you not lied about?" but shit, lying about being a successful rapist in the middle of an interview in an attempt to scare a woman on another continent, when he hasn't got the money to fly across the ocean (and neither do I, but he's been made aware that if I did, I'd be visiting a country where some of my ancestors lived, and his isn't on the list) kind of takes the cake for "Worst Prior Planning of Effect of a Lie." I was meant to be scared but was more like "Get tae fuck wi ye" as far as completing his wiki edits. (What? I'm trans-Glaswegian. It only affects me when I really need to swear.) The one about having a dog wins for "Most Depressing Lie." Because if I can't have a dog, and I cannot because my landlord is a dick instead of being my parents, then maybe somebody could have a dog. But there is no dog. Anyway, you see the problem: he does it so compulsively and reflexively, guarding a horribly damaged sense of self, that you could make an entire annual award ceremony with different categories for the lies presented over two-and-change threads.

@Holden, something happened to you before you were even old enough to be interested in girls. Something convinced you that you weren't worthy of love. That's why it freaked you out so much to get a positive response on a text dating service that you screamed and threw your cellie under the couch. I'm not going to ask what it was in public. If you ever want to tell me, send me a PM. There is quite a lot you've said to me that's gone unshared, which is to be expected when one thread of PMs from you in my inbox is now eight pages long. I have no energy to screencap all that. Anyway, I hope you understand that I get to have my own opinions, and one of those is that if you went to a therapist (not the same one who... you know) and said firmly, "Doctor, my trauma is this, and that led to these other upsetting events. Please help me get past them and lead a productive life," you could. It would take time, effort, and pain. But when a question about what your favorite parks, sports, etc. might be leads to the agonized statement, "I don't like speaking about myself," I know the trauma is something early and deep. Whatever it was, I am sorry about it and hope you can break out of these repetitive thought patterns about how all women, etc. etc.

I don't quite have trust issues to the extent of wanting to lock Mr. Horse in a rather tall cage, but I have issues; they exist; they are taking work to get rid of; and I do it because I'm trying to make my life better from the inside out. I think many of us here have reached out for help at one time or another. Many of us also have what you want, namely productive and permanent relationships with no cheating, no hurting the other person, and all that. @The Dude has kids, as do others. It is not easy. I'm not lying when I tell you it's possible, so I'm going to continue not lying: relationships are difficult. It's not just coming home from the office, taking off your tie/bra/whatever, and having your spouse pour you a martini. And here's the kicker: the best relationships are those in which each participant has some amount of love for themselves. I hope you get to that point, man. It's better to have three people really care about you than ten thousand people know who you are but think you're a dick because all they see are your defense mechanisms. Try for the first one. The second one is working out poorly.

@Holden everything NGH has said here is true. Life is hard. Love, real love not sex, is hard. It takes hard work and dedication and you have to WANT to work hard at it. Relationships are hard. To make a relationship work you have to put the other person ahead of yourself and your desires. You cannot be selfish and have a relationship work. It just won't happen. But if you put the person you love ahead of yourself and your wants then the other person will reciprocate in kind. The only thing holding you back in life and love is you. Your attitude towards life and women is completely fucked up and you need to fix it. You need to get into therapy so you can get your mind right. You need to improve your attitude and work on being the kind of person other people enjoy being around. Otherwise you are going to spend the rest of your life alone and wishing for something better.
 
He also posted to my profile, asking what he'd lied about. I was very tempted to respond "What have you not lied about?" but shit, lying about being a successful rapist in the middle of an interview in an attempt to scare a woman on another continent, when he hasn't got the money to fly across the ocean (and neither do I, but he's been made aware that if I did, I'd be visiting a country where some of my ancestors lived, and his isn't on the list) kind of takes the cake for "Worst Prior Planning of Effect of a Lie." I was meant to be scared but was more like "Get tae fuck wi ye" as far as completing his wiki edits. (What? I'm trans-Glaswegian. It only affects me when I really need to swear.) The one about having a dog wins for "Most Depressing Lie." Because if I can't have a dog, and I cannot because my landlord is a dick instead of being my parents, then maybe somebody could have a dog. But there is no dog. Anyway, you see the problem: he does it so compulsively and reflexively, guarding a horribly damaged sense of self, that you could make an entire annual award ceremony with different categories for the lies presented over two-and-change threads.

@Holden, something happened to you before you were even old enough to be interested in girls. Something convinced you that you weren't worthy of love. That's why it freaked you out so much to get a positive response on a text dating service that you screamed and threw your cellie under the couch. I'm not going to ask what it was in public. If you ever want to tell me, send me a PM. There is quite a lot you've said to me that's gone unshared, which is to be expected when one thread of PMs from you in my inbox is now eight pages long. I have no energy to screencap all that. Anyway, I hope you understand that I get to have my own opinions, and one of those is that if you went to a therapist (not the same one who... you know) and said firmly, "Doctor, my trauma is this, and that led to these other upsetting events. Please help me get past them and lead a productive life," you could. It would take time, effort, and pain. But when a question about what your favorite parks, sports, etc. might be leads to the agonized statement, "I don't like speaking about myself," I know the trauma is something early and deep. Whatever it was, I am sorry about it and hope you can break out of these repetitive thought patterns about how all women, etc. etc.

I don't quite have trust issues to the extent of wanting to lock Mr. Horse in a rather tall cage, but I have issues; they exist; they are taking work to get rid of; and I do it because I'm trying to make my life better from the inside out. I think many of us here have reached out for help at one time or another. Many of us also have what you want, namely productive and permanent relationships with no cheating, no hurting the other person, and all that. @The Dude has kids, as do others. It is not easy. I'm not lying when I tell you it's possible, so I'm going to continue not lying: relationships are difficult. It's not just coming home from the office, taking off your tie/bra/whatever, and having your spouse pour you a martini. And here's the kicker: the best relationships are those in which each participant has some amount of love for themselves. I hope you get to that point, man. It's better to have three people really care about you than ten thousand people know who you are but think you're a dick because all they see are your defense mechanisms. Try for the first one. The second one is working out poorly.
So my ''lies'', if you disregard the fact that nobody in their right mind would admit to crimes publicly anyway, is something like the dog thing ? Lol, ''worthy of love''... That girl wanted sex, not love, and I did it due to a phobia Gilmartin describes. I told you why I don't want to talk about myself anymore many times now, and it has to do with what you did. As for my father, this just shows your delusions. His crime is that he taught me to respect women in a world where the last thing they want is to be treated as anything but vermin. As for a therapist, you are again going under a wrong, insane assumption that there are sane women out there. There aren't. As I said long ago, if a therapist doesn't teach you to maim sluts they are useless.

In a world where it is a crime that a woman still has eyes and legs after you're done with her my father taught me outdated values.
 
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In a world where it is a crime that a woman still has eyes and legs after you're done with her my father taught me outdated values.
Where's the statute or code that states it's a crime??? For it to be a crime, there has to be a law provided by a statute or code.

You know what...I know you aren't going to provide any proof....

Now:
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Where's the statute or code that states it's a crime??? For it to be a crime, there has to be a law provided by a statute or code.

You know what...I know you aren't going to provide any proof....

Now:
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Macie, if by now you still don't get that women see it as a crime, which I explained many times, all I can say that your insanity is getting worse. You have no idea what a comparison means

I never said dates, consent or respect are in the penal code. Just that women see men who exhibit those as criminals.

Also. Horse, that girl you mentioned was barely 16 and slept with 50 men and 2 girls at the time. Lol love.

@Holden everything NGH has said here is true. Life is hard. Love, real love not sex, is hard. It takes hard work and dedication and you have to WANT to work hard at it. Relationships are hard. To make a relationship work you have to put the other person ahead of yourself and your desires. You cannot be selfish and have a relationship work. It just won't happen. But if you put the person you love ahead of yourself and your wants then the other person will reciprocate in kind. The only thing holding you back in life and love is you. Your attitude towards life and women is completely fucked up and you need to fix it. You need to get into therapy so you can get your mind right. You need to improve your attitude and work on being the kind of person other people enjoy being around. Otherwise you are going to spend the rest of your life alone and wishing for something better.
Except that all of this applies to bygone times and place, since women today hate men who want more than sex. Also, do you think people don't enjoy being around me ? They very much do.
 
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Macie, if by now you still don't get that women see it as a crime, which I explained many times, all I can say that your insanity is getting worse. You have no idea what a comparison means

You seem to not understand that you simply saying something doesn't make it true. The fact that you said something is irrelevant, you still have to provide valid evidence. Anecdotes aren't evidence either.

You also seem to not understand that hyperbole is not a literary tool that you should use all the time. Otherwise, it loses its most important purpose, which is to emphasis a point. If everything you write is hyperbole, then you can't use it to emphasis a particular point.

The word 'crime' refers to an action that is punishable by government because it's written in the law. Your use of the word is outside this definition, it's hyperbole. You getting on people's cases for not understanding is illogical at best. You are misusing and abusing hyperbole, you should be aware that most people are not used to reading only hyperbole. People are used to hyperbole being reserved as a tool to emphasis a point.

What I'm trying to get you to see is that until you can explain things in a plain and ordered manner and not rely solely on hyperbole, people are going to continue to not know what you are talking about.

Do you do that on purpose so then it gives you a reason to lash out at people, so you feel better for some weird reason?
 
Except that all of this applies to bygone times and place, since women today hate men who want more than sex. Also, do you think people don't enjoy being around me ? They very much do.
I've been around guys who just wanted to have sex with me and guys who wanted something more. And when it came down to it, it was the guy who wanted something more that I picked.
 
I did it due to a phobia Gilmartin describes
Gilmartin believes your "phobia" are due to astrology. Are you a Virgo?

since women today hate men who want more than sex. Also, do you think people don't enjoy being around me ? They very much do.
Stop comparing your situation to "men" in general. For one thing, you're a pedophile while most men aren't. For another, you wanted to fuck your mother.
 
His crime is that he taught me to respect women in a world where the last thing they want is to be treated as anything but vermin.

In a world where it is a crime that a woman still has eyes and legs after you're done with her my father taught me outdated values.

What the fuck is wrong with you. This can't be a real person this is just an elaborate troll right?

Guys please tell me it's a troll my faith in humanity can't survive the knowledge somebody has these views
 
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Macie, if by now you still don't get that women see it as a crime, which I explained many times, all I can say that your insanity is getting worse. You have no idea what a comparison means
Holden, how many women are on this forum? I count AT LEAST five. All of them told you that you are full of shit. You haven't paid attention to the world around you. The incompetent individuals in the Croatian BDSM scene do not reflect normal women.
 
What the fuck is wrong with you. This can't be a real person this is just an elaborate troll right?

Guys please tell me it's a troll my faith in humanity can't survive the knowledge somebody has these views
Sorry. Fuckbot is the real deal.
 
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