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manperson said:
Are asymptomatic spreaders the "dark matter" of CDC models? Something added to make the equations work as they expect them to work? My understanding of "dark matter" is that astrophysicists have equations on how the universe expands (or something like this), and the math doesn't match what they've observed, so they came up with "dark matter" as a way to have the equations match their observations ("there's some matter out there, somewhere, that we can't see or detect, which makes our equations match the results we see"). I probably butchered that explanation a bit because as a layman I know nothing of this.

Similarly, "the mask mandates, CDC guidelines, etc, must surely work, therefore it must be asymptomatic spreaders and people not correctly masking, which makes our equations match the results we see"
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Kind of. Dark matter is mostly matter we can't detect except by its gravity and every theory calls for several different kinds of dark matter. But in general it mostly exists because it's our best explanation for the expansion of the universe and numerous other factors (like the mass of galaxies--a lot tied up in dark matter). Anything else that's been proposed doesn't work for one reason or another.

I wouldn't compare it to the bullshit data on how mask mandates and lockdowns work. That's just a case of lazy scientists and shitty social engineers not understanding your average person does not socially distance (even with strangers), does not know or care to wear a mask properly, and will risk a lot to live a normal life. They're lazier than communists, at least communists will point out why the Soviet Union or Cuba or whatever fucked up and how their economic planning models were wrong and how their infallible brand of true communism which has never been tried will fixed all that.

Also keep in mind your average Covidiot believes that without the restrictions on life, there would be bodies in the street and millions of dead and hospitals would turn back dying grandmas. The models made insane predictions based on shitty data and alarmist media made statements like how in the US by June if we didn't shut down we'd have "thousands of 9/11s worths of deaths which is like 4 Civil Wars" and globally the millions dead would be like three Holocausts worth. Because things are only really bad and not as bad as their diet of doom porn leads them to believe, the Covidiot Cult believe the efforts they and likeminded people and governments have taken have had a genuine effect and are preventing millions from dying.
 
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Larry David's Opera Cape said:
The state of Oregon has decided to start outright mocking its depressed, unemployed, locked down, riot-scarred populace.


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The most fucked thing is that every minority I've spoken to that they supposedly claim to fight for are sick of the lockdown measures Oregon has in place. Those working class blacks, mexicans, and taiwanese or philipino guys I work with all hate these restrictions and they say its a detriment to their work. I was talking to one of my co-workers one day who is african american himself and he says this lockdown shits fucked and anyone complaining about work being hard or exhausting needs to be counting their blessings because a lot of folk around are losing their jobs and collecting unemployment and there aren't any opportunities around. I told him it was crazy because minority folks in this state that Kate Brown and all those other chucklefucks are trying to protect are the ones who are losing their jobs and he agreed with me.

Hell people in my workplace when the supervisors turn a blind eye will pull their masks down in break areas where you're not supposed to and they all happen to be minorities (I work in a really diverse workplace).
 
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Jamila said:
Apparently there is no COVID in China except for a few small outbreaks here and there, which they are responding to with the same draconian lockdowns that doomers in the West salivate over. But the early days of the outbreak are long gone.

Something to consider is that all of this people dying in the streets and freaking out didn't seem to happen anywhere else that was hit by COVID early on. Could have been CCP propaganda. Could have been mass hysteria. Could have been the OG COVID that hadn't yet mutated enough. My money's on a mix of the first two, and maybe a pinch of the third.
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They celebrated New Years at Wuhan w/o fucking masks and distancing. Even fucking North Korea looks like Ancapistan compared to Crappyfornia.
 
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manperson said:
Are asymptomatic spreaders the "dark matter" of CDC models? Something added to make the equations work as they expect them to work? My understanding of "dark matter" is that astrophysicists have equations on how the universe expands (or something like this), and the math doesn't match what they've observed, so they came up with "dark matter" as a way to have the equations match their observations ("there's some matter out there, somewhere, that we can't see or detect, which makes our equations match the results we see"). I probably butchered that explanation a bit because as a layman I know nothing of this.

Similarly, "the mask mandates, CDC guidelines, etc, must surely work, therefore it must be asymptomatic spreaders and people not correctly masking, which makes our equations match the results we see"
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Dark matter TL ; DR 'There's not enough visible stuff in galaxies to hold them together all of our work may be wrong!' 'Fuck it, just tell them there's a lot of invisible stuff too.'

So yes, it's pretty much the exact same thing.
 
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It's difficult to see people around me wishing death upon unmasked ones.

I think it's really important right now to not participate in chimp outs, and be civil... That's what I keep telling myself, and that's how I cope. It was really upsetting to hear my friends complaining about people being unmasked while walking down the street, which to me is illogical and crazy, to the point that I lost all desire to communicate with said friends.
But now I'm the retarded obsessed one, mirror image of church of covid...
I don't want this aggressive division on right and wrong, don't understand why virus had to become political...

For my own safety and career I have to muzzle up, and nod with approval when colleague tells a story about a kid in his younger sister's class who didn't want to wear a mask to school. other kids made fun of her and dramatically avoided, until she masked up.
 
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Chocola said:
It's difficult to see people around me wishing death upon unmasked ones.

I think it's really important right now to not participate in chimp outs, and be civil... That's what I keep telling myself, and that's how I cope. It was really upsetting to hear my friends complaining about people being unmasked while walking down the street, which to me is illogical and crazy, to the point that I lost all desire to communicate with said friends.
But now I'm the retarded obsessed one, mirror image of church of covid...
I don't want this aggressive division on right and wrong, don't understand why virus had to become political...

For my own safety and career I have to muzzle up, and nod with approval when colleague tells a story about a kid in his younger sister's class who didn't want to wear a mask to school. other kids made fun of her and dramatically avoided, until she masked up.
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You're doing better than me. I've gone from being irritated by people to holding them in utter contempt. I've seen too many freak out over a virus that won't kill many of them while blindly listening to a government that fucked up and failed so many times to give accurate info and actually handle this. And I know for a fact that many of those same retards are screaming they aren't getting their free money gibs, and that's the part they really get angry over. Not being lied to and told the wrong things by the "experts", the fact they aren't getting the money they "deserve" is what they're really upset about.

I sometimes want this virus to be as deadly as people keep saying it is. Call me MATI, I fucking wish this was culling killing a lot of people. Would save the rest of us from having to deal with them.
 
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Quantum Diabetes said:
This guy needs his ass kicked, in Barbie horse adventures
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Remember when women you don't know were to be treated with respect?

It's crazy how dudes in supermarkets/superstores are flipping shit at these chicks. I'm surprised one of these dudes hasn't swung yet with the way they're acting. Christ.
 
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Quantum Diabetes said:
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lmao what a faggot. I'd bet money that he would never pull this shit if it were a man bigger than him not wearing a mask. He'd (rightfully) get the shit kicked out of him, so he only goes after women he thinks he can bully into submission. Good for her for sticking to her guns
 
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Save the Loli said:
Sounds like there's zero reason for anyone but the vulnerable to get vaccinated. They hyped this shit up so much and now that it's here it apparently does fuck all but make your symptoms not as bad when you catch it (after you get sick from the vaccine too of course). Nobody young and healthy should waste their time on this. And if you think about it, since there's not enough doses of the vaccine out there, nobody young and healthy should be getting vaccinated (and ideally nobody young period since if you weigh 400 pounds you shouldn't be able to steal grandma's vaccine for your poor life choices). If you're a healthcare worker/TikTok nurse there's no point because you can still spread the disease to the old people you're around who haven't been vaccinated. I know I don't plan on injecting myself with this garbage, it is at best a waste of my time just like getting a flu shot is.

I'm obviously skeptical about forced vaccination of the elderly too but if someone feels like that's the best choice for their health and they want to take that risk, then good for them. It does look like the vaccine is less dangerous/painful for elderly people than catching Chinkflu is, but it's perfectly understandable why people choose to gamble differently.
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I haven't seen anyone mention this article on Marek's disease in chickens:


It's a quick read, but the gist of it is basically there was this chicken virus back in the day that affected chickens, they made a vaccine for it, but, get this, it doesn't protect the chickens entirely from the disease just the bad symptoms of it. The chickens can still pass Mareks along, to unvaccinated birds. What this did, is allowed the Mareks to become more deadly, by allowing the birds to survive the more lethal Mareks strains. Usually a virus gets weaker over time, and blends into the background. Before the vaccine, Mareks never really killed chickens, but fast forward a decade, and now any bird that isn't vaccinated will basically die. This makes getting the vaccine mandatory, any chicken that doesn't is a goner.

Now, I'm sorry, does this sound familiar to anyone else about what people are saying about the covid vaccine? What will this do in a decade to covid? Currently covid is blurring into the virus background, as nature commands. If the covid vaccine is "leaky", how does that change our outlook a decade from now? Would it make thing's worse?
 
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RA-5C Vigilante said:
I've seen too many freak out over a virus that won't kill many of them while blindly listening to a government that fucked up and failed so many times to give accurate info and actually handle this.
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When it happens to you in person it gets even weirder. Like "Is this person conscious? Is this an NPC?"
 
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Lichen Bark said:
I haven't seen anyone mention this article on Marek's disease in chickens:


It's a quick read, but the gist of it is basically there was this chicken virus back in the day that affected chickens, they made a vaccine for it, but, get this, it doesn't protect the chickens entirely from the disease just the bad symptoms of it. The chickens can still pass Mareks along, to unvaccinated birds. What this did, is allowed the Mareks to become more deadly, by allowing the birds to survive the more lethal Mareks strains. Usually a virus gets weaker over time, and blends into the background. Before the vaccine, Mareks never really killed chickens, but fast forward a decade, and now any bird that isn't vaccinated will basically die. This makes getting the vaccine mandatory, any chicken that doesn't is a goner.

Now, I'm sorry, does this sound familiar to anyone else about what people are saying about the covid vaccine? What will this do in a decade to covid? Currently covid is blurring into the virus background, as nature commands. If the covid vaccine is "leaky", how does that change our outlook a decade from now? Would it make thing's worse?
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Which is more likely to kill me? A faulty experimental vaccine, or the mega-super-death plague that will result from everyone else getting a faulty experimental vaccine?
 
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