Lolcow Leonard F. Shaner Jr. - Autistic Pedophile / Foamer / Shitlord

[AnOminous]

I know @Pocket_Sand! got him running scared since Shaner's now threatening him too with... something.

I don't think he's figured out yet what "defendant" means and that nobody else is on trial.

 

[Zim]

I don't think he's figured out yet what "defendant" means and that nobody else is on trial.

If it's discovered that he's going to show up with this entire thread screenshotted I'll probably laugh myself to death.

 

[Sanae Kochiya]

I don't think he's figured out yet what "defendant" means and that nobody else is on trial.

As I'm convinced that he might be dumb enough to try and submit this thread as evidence, I don't think he's figured out how the court system works besides "If the judge says I'm innocent then I win."

 

[Frank Rizzo]

former WWF champion

Which one of you guys squealed about The Iron Sheik being here?

 

[Emiya Kiwitsugu]

If it's discovered that he's going to show up with this entire thread screenshotted I'll probably laugh myself to death.

Ten bucks says Shaner will forgo all evidence admission, show up to court with the first page open on a laptop, and except it to be accepted as evidence there.

 

[Pocket_Sand!]

We tried to discuss railfan @Walking Stomach but that went nowhere.

If I'm not mistaken, Walking Stomach/Railfan565 still has his own thread and is sort of feeding it in a weird way. There are a number of really autistic foamers out there. Railfans are one thing, foamers are quite another, and it seems Null will crush a certain foamer at some point in the not so distant future.

1) Did you ever work directly with Len, or indirectly? We already know Len was particularly lazy and has difficulty using things like a bloody ladder, so was he really just there to foam at trains or did he try to do anything useful?

Both actually, although as I stated way back, I made it a policy of trying to avoid him as much as possible. Shaner is actually very 50/50 in his work habits. When it's something he actually wants to do, he tries very hard and does well in most cases. When it's something he doesn't want to do, or considers beneath him, he simply didn't show up. Which is fine, it's a volunteer organization. Weather was another thing that he wasn't a fan of, if the weather is foul (rain, super cold, very hot, etc.) he'd avoid that too.

2) We already know from @Gook Choy that Len has a history of harrassing female employees and customers, and that he had been taking pictures of people at the railroad. Were there any... particular instances of this, like when Len tried to kiss one of his Sears coworkers and got decked for it?

Not that I'm aware of, although again, I wasn't around him all that much, and he wasn't as deeply involved as he would've liked everyone to believe. There are very few women in the RR world, and the CRR is no exception. Of the women that are there, most of them are older, retired, married, have kids/grandkids, all that. Not exactly Shaner's cup of tea, however they all deemed him "creepy"

3) Do you and Len have any personal history with each other? Len seemed to focus intensely on arguing with you after you officially came out, much to everyone's amusement when he told us all to fuck off, so did anything happen or was he just finally thrilled to actually be shittalking someone from the great railroad Lenspiracy? Also, what was the deal with him and your wife, if you don't mind me asking?

I actually didn't know him until I became associated with the CRR, but Shaner seems to think that I'm one of the reasons he got booted from the RR, and that I have influence on the board of directors there. Neither of those things is true, but as we've all seen, that really doesn't matter. I am a technical adviser to the board on matters of mechanics/equipment/maintenance, and do attend meetings on occasion. I didn't even know he was being banned until the day his letter went out at which time I unfriended and blocked him on FB. As we've all seen, no one can be neutral in the great Lenspiracy, and by blocking him, that put me firmly on his enemies list. I think he attacked me first on his hate pages because he is jealous (i'm not being egotistical, it's the only thing I can think of). I showed up totally at random, with only an industrial RR background, and managed in about 6 months to become the go to guy for track work, major equipment operations, welding, metal fab, and I took over the care and maintenance of the little yellow Plymouth locomotive almost instantly. Shaner did make some contacts in the acquisition of that locomotive, but I don't know how much else he had to do with it. The board president, myself and Preston (one of the board members that Shaner hates with a passion and is insanely jealous of) were the ones who finalized it coming to the CRR. I think that he thought the Plymouth loco would be "his" and instead it became "mine." As far as my wife goes, I'm not going to go too far into that, for the time being. There's some things going on in her professional life that reek of Shaner.

4) Were there any instances of Len being horribly lazy (even by Len standards) or negligent in his work? Or any instances of him overburdening other workers or stealing anything (besides those pictures we have of him stealing shit).

As to his work habits, see above. Like I said, if it was a task he really wanted to do, he got into it, and generally did well (railroad track work isn't exactly difficult, it's physically pretty brutal). As you've all seen he did take a lot of pictures during work, but it's a volunteer organization, so it isn't like there is a set work schedule or the like. The photo taking didn't seem to interfere with his work, the average age of a track crew on the CRR is 65-85 so things move a little slower most of the time anyway. I have a full time real job that keeps me very busy, so I didn't work with him all that much, it was mostly the retired guys who have the time during the week that he did a lot of work with. As to his stealing things from the CRR, I have no idea. Nothing that I work with ever came up missing, tools, machines etc. although he has been accused several times of stealing the horns off of 7580 our big locomotive.

 

[Emiya Kiwitsugu]

Guys.

The privet detective is back.

 

[BOLDYSPICY!]

The face of insanity as a child. I just have to wonder if Len learned his photo watermarking skills from his Dad. Was Len Sr a photography?

Wait, shit, hang on. According to the records @Saul Goodman found (also you didn't have to change your avatar! ), Len was born in 1957. But if this picture was really taken in 1978, Len would have been 21. However, if we assume Len actually is telling the truth for once & is really 46, that puts him at nine years old at the time the picture was taken.

 

[Pocket_Sand!]

laptop

Hahahahaha!!! Laptop! Hahahahaha!

@BOLDYSPICY! He's in his early 50's at the oldest.

 

[Sanae Kochiya]

Thanks for the answers, Curt, and we won't inquire about your wife further unless you two feel comfortable about talking about it.

 

[chimpburgers]

Hahahahaha!!! Laptop! Hahahahaha!

@BOLDYSPICY! He's in his early 50's at the oldest.

Why do you think there have been so many inconsistencies in the ages that have been found? I thought he was 46 when I did the math, but other people have thrown out that he's in his late 50s. It doesn't change anything about how much of a sperg he is though.

 

[Pocket_Sand!]

Thanks for the answers, Curt, and we won't inquire about your wife further unless you two feel comfortable about talking about it.

Happy to oblige @ThunderCavalier

Edit: @dollarpennypincher like everything else, he lies about his age. I have no clue when his birthday is, but when he talked about how old he was (he's obsessed with people's ages), he never, ever said he was over 50, so I assume late 40's early 50's at most.

 

[Saul Goodman]

[A]s far as "trolling" Len goes, believe it or not but there is actually a certain etiquette to trolling that needs to be followed. . . . Len may need an occasional nudge every now and then from us, but for the most part, the best thing to do is merely observe, archive stories about his past and document stories that are happening now and in the future.

Agreed for the most part. However, I would add a couple things: (1) If Len wants to interact with you it is often quite productive to engage with him. Personally, I've found our interactions delightful. (2) Trolling is good if it (a) is funny and (b) isn't illegal and doesn't harm the individual in question.

So yeah, calling and yelling isn't cool. But sometimes you have to take risks. My client Kesshite (Kathrine) Buruamuzu is a great example of this.

 

[BOLDYSPICY!]

Happy to oblige @ThunderCavalier

Edit: @dollarpennypincher like everything else, he lies about his age. I have no clue when his birthday is, but when he talked about how old he was (he's obsessed with people's ages), he never, ever said he was over 50, so I assume late 40's early 50's at most.

Why do you think there have been so many inconsistencies in the ages that have been found? I thought he was 46 when I did the math, but other people have thrown out that he's in his late 50s. It doesn't change anything about how much of a sperg he is though.

Thanks, @Pocket_Sand!. These were @Saul Goodman 's findings:

It turns out Intellius messed up with "Leonard Allen." He is Leonard F. Shaner Jr. Born May 2, 1957 in Portland, OR (what is it with lolcows and Oregon?).

I can't tell you how I know this,* but I'm pretty confident in the intel. Maybe @The_Knight_Rider could confirm via his "privet" sources.

*Hypothetically, it would be bad form for a lawyer to use his LexisNexis work account to stalk train-humping autists online.

I've previously confirmed the Shaner Express as having departed from Portland, OR on May 2, 1957. This would've meant he started high school at age 25 and graduated at 32. I think this is just further evidence that @The_Knight_Rider 's online statements are riddled with lies and that "Mr. Shaner" is a really bad liar.

We need to stop letting @Schuylkill Valley get away with this lie (he seems to think -- as with everything else -- that if he repeats it enough it will become true).

He was born May 2, 1957. Which makes him 58 and not 46 (and thus older than Bob, incidentally).

I just realized something: @Schuylkill Valley, you're a 58 year old virgin (and, no, pillows and blowup dolls don't count). And for a moment that made me actually feel for you. But then I remembered how creepy and rapey you are. All for the best then, I suppose.

Considering Len's DOB was fucked up on the criminal docket, I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that there may have been a mistake.

 

[Sanae Kochiya]

Agreed for the most part. However, I would add a couple things: (1) If Len wants to interact with you it is often quite productive to engage with him. Personally, I've found our interactions delightful. (2) Trolling is good if it (a) is funny and (b) isn't illegal and doesn't harm the individual in question.

So yeah, calling and yelling isn't cool. But sometimes you have to take risks. My client Kesshite (Kathrine) Buruamuzu is a great example of this.

If I might add an addendum, I personally believe that directly intervening and contacting some people is fine in the case of something like the Mayerson event, where we suspect that Len's autism is fucking with someone else directly. I don't mean bugging him repeatedly about messages that some autistic freak is creeping on you and you should sue him, but politely informing him that Len might be illegally accessing his account. @Saul Goodman showed the best way to go about this, professionally contacting him and telling him about the Facebook disturbances.

So yeah, if you ever feel Len is reaching too far and involving people when they shouldn't be (as he is wont to do with his rampant autism and sockpuppeting), then I think that's fine to intervene in. Just remember to be as polite and unintrusive as possible. They didn't ask to be part of Len's shenanigans, so don't involve them in it further.

 

[Dr. Merkwurdichliebe]

I don't care how crazy someone is. No well-educated person (and Mayerson clearly is) would go out of their way to encourage this absolute abortion of a "novel."

Maybe Mayerson is just being kind to the village idiot.

Then again, he's a lawyer, and he clearly wrote that he "liked where it [the "novel"] was heading . . .." There's a good chance that the elision indicates that the following phrase is missing -- "which is to the landfill."

 

[Leonard F. Shaner Jr.]

The board president, myself and Preston (one of the board members that Shaner hates with a passion and is insanely jealous of) were the ones who finalized it coming to the CRR.

Mr. Hasselbacher,
You are so full of shit you stink. You and Preston were not involved finalizing of the 30 Ton Plymouth from Titus. I was. It was Nathaniel and I who worked on that Deal. Mr. Shaner was involved as well, It was through his connections we were contacted to begin with.
Don't be starting this shit where you feel you are in charged, You can be replaced too.

 

[John Daker]

Mr. Hasselbacher,
You are so full of shit you stink. You and Preston were not involved finalizing of the 30 Ton Plymouth from Titus. I was. It was Nathaniel and I who worked on that Deal. Mr. Shaner was involved as well, It was through his connections we were contacted to begin with.
Don't be starting this shit where you feel you are in charged, You can be replaced too.

Welcome back, Mr. Johnson. We've missed you.

 

[Frank Rizzo]

Mr. Hasselbacher,
You are so full of shit you stink. You and Preston were not involved finalizing of the 30 Ton Plymouth from Titus. I was. It was Nathaniel and I who worked on that Deal. Mr. Shaner was involved as well, It was through his connections we were contacted to begin with.
Don't be starting this shit where you feel you are in charged, You can be replaced too.

Be careful Michael, KITT wouldn't like this display of anger.

 

[Rin]

Mr. Hasselbacher,
You are so full of shit you stink. You and Preston were not involved finalizing of the 30 Ton Plymouth from Titus. I was. It was Nathaniel and I who worked on that Deal. Mr. Shaner was involved as well, It was through his connections we were contacted to begin with.
Don't be starting this shit where you feel you are in charged, You can be replaced too.

I thought you and Len had parted ways. What led to your return?