The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.

I'm not overweight. And like I said, the only way you can eliminate it with weight loss is by being dangerously underweight. I'll stick with the IUD.

The anti-birth control shit sounds like the shit antivaxers say about vaccines.
Why do I doubt that? I have a feeling someone's not being totally honest with themselves when it comes to their BMI.

So you believe anything a guy in a white coat tells you huh? Do you believe in the food pyramid made in the 1990s that has help lead the West's obesity issue? You know the one with the 6-7 servings of carbs a day which leads to a massive level of diabetes because carbs are broken down into glucose in the body and thus leading to massive levels of insulin.

Oh by the way, it was noted that the doctor who made the food pyramid admitted he only but carbs on the base level was because bread and pasta was cheaper to give on food stamps than food and vegetables. With this in mind do you honestly believe that the same government that will literally trick a whole population to eat incorrectly just to save a few pennies don't have anything to gain by allowing abortion and birth control? It's not like women are now half their income now. It's not like child care takes away from working and that you can't tax stay at home mothers.
 
Hormonal BC has a not insignificant chance of causing deep vein thrombosis and, even deadlier, pulmonary embolism and occlusive strokes.
And lithium gives you perminant organ damage, risperidone can give you serious hormone issues, and antidepressants can actually make you more suicidal.
Why do I doubt that? I have a feeling someone's not being totally honest with themselves when it comes to their BMI.

So you believe anything a guy in a white coat tells you huh? Do you believe in the food pyramid made in the 1990s that has help lead the West's obesity issue? You know the one with the 6-7 servings of carbs a day which leads to a massive level of diabetes because carbs are broken down into glucose in the body and thus leading to massive levels of insulin.

Oh by the way, it was noted that the doctor who made the food pyramid admitted he only but carbs on the base level was because bread and pasta was cheaper to give on food stamps than food and vegetables. With this in mind do you honestly believe that the same government that will literally trick a whole population to eat incorrectly just to save a few pennies don't have anything to gain by allowing abortion and birth control? It's not like women are now half their income now. It's not like child care takes away from working and that you can't tax stay at home mothers.
Because you're an anachan? And you want to humblebrag about your weight loss while insisting the only ppl who disagree with you are jealous fatties? Idk, believe it or not I'm being honest. Periods suck, as does pregnancy. Idk what the government has to gain but I gain a fuckton from not having to deal with either.
Also...I...I'm genuinely really sorry, but when I read you were on anti psychotics I literally laughed. I'm sorry, but pauljosephwatsonimaginemyshock.jpeg. It's not actually funny, but it is kinda funny. From the way you post you seem genuinely disgusted in your own body and femininity; which is awful. But does fit. You remind me of a friend of mine at university who basically has the same talking points as you, was also on anti-psychotics when she was younger and also hates children.
So if you had to choose between having your junk ooze blood on a monthly basis and not, what would you choose?

Periods are pretty disgusting, same as any other bodily function. Only you can opt out of them safely unlike other bodily functions. With what they do to my mental health especially it's pretty great.

Weird how many kiwis become Jonathan Yaniv when it comes to using birth control to stop periods 🤔
 
Periods are pretty disgusting, same as any other bodily function. Only you can opt out of them safely unlike other bodily functions. With what they do to my mental health especially it's pretty great.

Weird how many kiwis become Jonathan Yaniv when it comes to using birth control to stop periods 🤔
Periods are gross, so is pissing, and phlegm, and this weird thing I get when I'm ill where I taste everything as sulfur.

As a man, if my genitals began bleeding I'd probably call an ambulance ngl. Not got to the doctor, or take drugs. Like full on panic dialing 999 and hysterically explaining that I'm fountaining blood from my japs eye. It'd probably be pretty funny to watch.

But I'm a guy, I'm not supposed to bleed from my genitals, it's not part of my biology to do that. Like it or not, it is part of yours.

Don't get me wrong, I've said it before and I'll say it again. If your period is particularly unpleasant, or intense, or it fucks with your head to where you can't really function I am of the opinion you probably are either A) Overly dramatic, or B) Ill. But if birth control helps you function, then take birth control. It's not 'safe'; but it won't kill you. Hell take it regardless of those factors if you want to. You're being used as a form of human trial by doing so, but so am I if I drink diet coke with sweeteners. I have no real issue beyond the purely academic with birth control, it's a medicine like any other. If it helps, take it, if it doesn't, don't. Your doctor should be letting you know of any risks and you're an adult.

Hell, I think the UK packages have the risks printed on them?

The promiscuity issue is something someone brought up before; and I don't really think birth control has much of an impact; widespread birth control was a response to promiscuity, not a cause of it. Better to be on birth control and fuck around, than not on birth control and be fucking around. There's no nobility in suffering discomfort for the sake of it when you can make the discomfort go away, and understand the risks of what doing that involves. 🤷‍♂️
 
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Wild how ppl itt are so butthurt about one of the only things proven to reduce abortion rates. You'd think prolifers would be the first people pushing for birth control and comprehensive sex ed considering those are the only things that actually reduce the number of abortions happening.
It's almost as if pro-life proponents have an entire social vision, and abortion is only part of a grander societal illness that more casual use of birth control would only cloak.
 
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It's almost as if abortion is only part of a grander societal illness that more casual use of birth control would only cloak.
Pregnancy is an illness? Because seriously, abortion is as old as pregnancy is. The only thing new are methods that are safe and reliable.

Birth control is the shit. Pearl clutching over it is retarded. Especially if you hate abortion.
 
Pregnancy is an illness? Because seriously, abortion is as old as pregnancy is. The only thing new are methods that are safe and reliable.

Birth control is the shit. Pearl clutching over it is retarded. Especially if you hate abortion.
Learn to read.
They're saying that the trend of aborting your children, high promiscuity and low relationships are a societal ill. Not pregnancy.

Also, Android you've repeatedly called babies a parasite, which is an illness. I'm not sure why you're suddenly questioning it if you think they agree with you?
 
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They're saying that the trend of aborting your children, high promiscuity and low relationships are a societal ill. Not pregnancy.
None of that is a trend. That's how shit has always been. Only difference is back when that shit wasn't openly discussed and abortion used to be way less safe and reliable (and as a result there was a lot more actual baby killing).

People have always liked to fuck, they've always had shitty relationships, and always been ending unwanted pregnancies (or died trying). The idea that there was some magical time and place where people exclusively had sex for procreation, never outside of that, and relationships were always happy and healthy and all babies were wanted and treated like precious gifts is a fairy tale.

As much as shit can suck now, I'm glad I live in a time and place where I wasn't forced to marry some creepy old man and get pregnant as child, can get everything from vaccines to birth control, am not forced to stay in an abusive marriage, wasn't thrown in an asylum and left to rot, wasn't forced to endure conversion "therapy", didn't get lobotomized, etc.
 
The idea that there was some magical time and place where people exclusively had sex for procreation, never outside of that, and relationships were always happy and healthy
is a retelling of history that hasn't been advanced by anyone except for average-IQ goons needing to make a strawman in order to not address concerns about worsening behavioral trends.
 
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It's almost as if pro-life proponents have an entire social vision, and abortion is only part of a grander societal illness that more casual use of birth control would only cloak.
You've never had sex or been in a relationship before. You don't understand any of this. Reading blog posts on the internet does not make you an expert on these things
 
You've never had sex or been in a relationship before. You don't understand any of this. Reading blog posts on the internet does not make you an expert on these things
It's weird, but people can post their opinions and have discussions without being experts on a subject.

Even people that get pissed off at the slightest thing and then take their toys and go home.

Although I suppose you're just here to shriek at men, considering you've added maybe 20 words of discussion total.
 
is a retelling of history that hasn't been advanced by anyone except for average-IQ goons needing to make a strawman in order to not address concerns about worsening behavioral trends.
Worsening? For the most part shit is getting better. Unless you think women having more freedom to not be treated like livestock and child marriage not being ok is a problem for some reason.
 
It's weird, but people can post their opinions and have discussions without being experts on a subject.

Even people that get pissed off at the slightest thing and then take their toys and go home.

Although I suppose you're just here to shriek at men, considering you've added maybe 20 words of discussion total.
He's being extremely unrealistic in what he expects people to do because he's incapable of understanding human relationships due to having no experience with them.

Can you write like a normal person btw? This "ummm ACKSHUALLY" shit is really snide and feminine.
 
And lithium gives you perminant organ damage, risperidone can give you serious hormone issues, and antidepressants can actually make you more suicidal.

Because you're an anachan? And you want to humblebrag about your weight loss while insisting the only ppl who disagree with you are jealous fatties? Idk, believe it or not I'm being honest. Periods suck, as does pregnancy. Idk what the government has to gain but I gain a fuckton from not having to deal with either.

So if you had to choose between having your junk ooze blood on a monthly basis and not, what would you choose?

Periods are pretty disgusting, same as any other bodily function. Only you can opt out of them safely unlike other bodily functions. With what they do to my mental health especially it's pretty great.

Weird how many kiwis become Jonathan Yaniv when it comes to using birth control to stop periods 🤔
Intresting that you didn't try and defend your stance that you're a skinny queen and you possibly can't weight.

I'm not trying to be cruel. I'm trying to tell women that I know what it's like to be fat and to worry about your fertility. You can snark at how "wahmen are more than having children, baka!" I'm sorry but it's true. We market ourselves to the world. To pretend that we're anything but future mothers/wives is stupid. It will make us second rate men at best. I can understand your blindness. People are going to protect beautiful women while ugly women are left on the side. Believe me, I know. Christ, do I know. But you have to let that shit go and do something about it. You sounds really miserable and being on a cocktail of drugs is really bad for you. Weight loss is a step in self improvement and getting yourself in order.

I laughed when you said you have a lot to gain. Yeah, sure you do Sweetheart. What a grand prize it must be to be pumped and dumped and left on your bed wondering why you feel dead and empty. I'm sure it'll be rewarding when you're on your death bed surrounded by all those Employee of the Month awards instead of your children and grandchildren.

Right, I know you're doing it on purpose but let me explain to you how the government and massive corporations gain from women at work. First, women are more conformist: they'll do anything they can to not rock the boat. They won't ask for bigger wages or be as competitive. Secondly, at the beginning of the 20th century a man could afford a house, a wife, two children, a car and maybe the odd holiday. But now it takes two adults with two full time jobs to get this. Why? Well thanks to feminism women were starting to take roles and the demand for work was cut in half. Now employers could lower their wages and not offer any benefits to their staff because the work pool was literally doubled. Not only are women their workers but now massive consumers of crap. Why do you think corporations slobber themselves over feminism? Why do they donate to Planned Parenthood? Why are they determined to get more women into work? It's all profit to them, dummy. Children take away time and effort FROM a corporation.

The government massively benefits because they are now receiving double the taxes as well. Not just from income but in VAT as well. Let's not forget that the women who do have children by some miracle who have no choice but to hand their child over to the schools, this leading to indoctrination. Why do you think university students act like babies and throw massive tantrums nower days? Their mothers left them to compete in a room of thirty other children all clambering for one adult's attention.

You have been fed a lie. Sexual liberation isn't freedom. It's an illusion. It's smoke and mirrors. The corporations and the governments are slowly stripping you of your humanity and your rights but you'll say you're free because you can sleep with Tyrone for a night. What a winner you are.
 
Because they're incels
You've never had sex or been in a relationship before. You don't understand any of this. Reading blog posts on the internet does not make you an expert on these things

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When's the sequel to Douglas coming out?

None of that is a trend. That's how shit has always been. Only difference is back when that shit wasn't openly discussed and abortion used to be way less safe and reliable (and as a result there was a lot more actual baby killing).

People have always liked to fuck, they've always had shitty relationships, and always been ending unwanted pregnancies (or died trying). The idea that there was some magical time and place where people exclusively had sex for procreation, never outside of that, and relationships were always happy and healthy and all babies were wanted and treated like precious gifts is a fairy tale.

As much as shit can suck now, I'm glad I live in a time and place where I wasn't forced to marry some creepy old man and get pregnant as child, can get everything from vaccines to birth control, am not forced to stay in an abusive marriage, wasn't thrown in an asylum and left to rot, wasn't forced to endure conversion "therapy", didn't get lobotomized, etc.
I can't say I disagree on much. I think the scale was smaller back then, and that it's definitely more accepted and common now.

I disagree that there was more 'actual baby killing' because abortion is baby killing. Like I said earlier in the thread, I'm not going to change my mind on that, likely neither are you. This thread is people nihilisticaly screaming into the void and insulting each other to kill time. Which is fine. I'm doing this between waiting for data to generate from a DNA primer program and watching the Conjuring again. I don't think anyone is taking this particularly seriously, I like writing long sperposts because I love the sound of my own voice, even in written form.

But the bottom paragraph I agree with, well except for the conversion therapy. Gays are degenerate and should be punished; but I don't care enough to actively try and fight for that. But the vaccines, birth control, avenues of escape from abuse; all good things. Kinda reminds me of the divorce law thing, where when it first came in people started saying that it was destroying marriages. If you divorce the moment the law lets you (literally in the first month of it being passed there was a massive influx of divorces) then your marriage was already over.

I think it's something like 50% of people get divorced, which is sad yeah; but it also means 50% of people at the very least aren't living in a loveless marriage. I think I said earlier that the biggest killers of women are things like heart attacks, and their own partners/'exes. So things that help reduce both those numbers are pretty good. Women should go for runs more, eat more greens and white meats; men should beat the shit out of their sons if they hit their girlfriend, and raise them properly so they don't hit their girlfriend. You know, healthy living stuff.

I think people are probably less happy now than they were in some nebulous fifties haze time, but that's because the world is just kinda shitty right now, irrespective of things like abortion. Purpose brings fulfillment and happiness, and most people are pretty rudderless. It'll swing around though.

Worsening? For the most part shit is getting better. Unless you think women having more freedom to not be treated like livestock and child marriage not being ok is a problem for some reason.
Things aren't getting better; they're just swinging along. It'll swing around again at some point and our great, great, great, great, great grankids will probably be getting particle beam pulsed to death in cyber trenches, or fight each other with sticks after the big boom boom fight. Women are more free to be consumerist slaves to large corporations, while paki rape gangs are free to abuse them and not get prosecuted. History doesn't end, everything keeps on changing.

We live in an era that is better than...well, all of history for most people actually in terms of material wealth. I'm on track for an upper middle class income, as is my sister. My mother is already there, we're all pretty healthy with no diseases. If things hold I'll be well off until I die. Probably won't hold though. Might do though, who knows.
 
Intresting that you didn't try and defend your stance that you're a skinny queen and you possibly can't weight.

I'm not trying to be cruel. I'm trying to tell women that I know what it's like to be fat and to worry about your fertility. You can snark at how "wahmen are more than having children, baka!" I'm sorry but it's true. We market ourselves to the world. To pretend that we're anything but future mothers/wives is stupid. It will make us second rate men at best. I can understand your blindness. People are going to protect beautiful women while ugly women are left on the side. Believe me, I know. Christ, do I know. But you have to let that shit go and do something about it. You sounds really miserable and being on a cocktail of drugs is really bad for you. Weight loss is a step in self improvement and getting yourself in order.

I laughed when you said you have a lot to gain. Yeah, sure you do Sweetheart. What a grand prize it must be to be pumped and dumped and left on your bed wondering why you feel dead and empty. I'm sure it'll be rewarding when you're on your death bed surrounded by all those Employee of the Month awards instead of your children and grandchildren.

Right, I know you're doing it on purpose but let me explain to you how the government and massive corporations gain from women at work. First, women are more conformist: they'll do anything they can to not rock the boat. They won't ask for bigger wages or be as competitive. Secondly, at the beginning of the 20th century a man could afford a house, a wife, two children, a car and maybe the odd holiday. But now it takes two adults with two full time jobs to get this. Why? Well thanks to feminism women were starting to take roles and the demand for work was cut in half. Now employers could lower their wages and not offer any benefits to their staff because the work pool was literally doubled. Not only are women their workers but now massive consumers of crap. Why do you think corporations slobber themselves over feminism? Why do they donate to Planned Parenthood? Why are they determined to get more women into work? It's all profit to them, dummy. Children take away time and effort FROM a corporation.

The government massively benefits because they are now receiving double the taxes as well. Not just from income but in VAT as well. Let's not forget that the women who do have children by some miracle who have no choice but to hand their child over to the schools, this leading to indoctrination. Why do you think university students act like babies and throw massive tantrums nower days? Their mothers left them to compete in a room of thirty other children all clambering for one adult's attention.

You have been fed a lie. Sexual liberation isn't freedom. It's an illusion. It's smoke and mirrors. The corporations and the governments are slowly stripping you of your humanity and your rights but you'll say you're free because you can sleep with Tyrone for a night. What a winner you are.
Wild how you missed all my edgy posting about how being forced to endure pregnancy and childbirth would probably make me literally become psychotic and a murderer. Some women are not fit to be mothers. I am one of them. Forcing those women to become wives and mothers has only ended in disaster time and time again.

Also that I'm gay and have like no sex drive.

I'm not sure why tradLARPers are hung up on thinking you won't die alone if you have kids. Many, many people who have kids have and will continue to die alone. Especially if you're an abusive shithead incapable of caring for them properly.

Still not fat, cool projection tho. Maybe your local theater is hiring.
 
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