Horrorcow Lucas Werner - A man of Spokane, Washington who is obsessed with millennial and Gen Z chicks

[Cnaiur urs Skiotha]

I'm of the mind that the reason he doesn't take his meds, is because his mom is/was an enabler, and never made him take his medicine, so he has no idea of what being somewhere near normal feels like, and if his mom didn't make him take them, it probably made him think he was perfect, and has zero need for meds, because he's plenty good.

I agree about his mom being an enabler and not getting him on meds earlier in life, but I will say that he has been on meds in the past, like during/immediately after his involuntary psych commitments. So he does know what it feels like to be medicated, although whether he knows what it feels like to be "near normal" I doubt. From the videos where he's medicated, he's still caught in the same obsessive thought loop about teen pussy and bigotry and how unfair it is the world doesn't hand him everything he wants for no effort. He's just talking about that shit more calmly and not ranting and screaming into his phone. I don't know exactly what Lucas' major malfunction is, I think schizoaffective is a good armchair psychologist guess since he seems to have both bipolar symptoms like mood swings and schizo symptoms like audio hallucinations and delusional thinking. One other thing I've heard that may be a reason he doesn't take meds is that some bipolar types will avoid them because they enjoy the manic phase. It's energizing and possibly even euphoric, although for Lucas we've seen that it can also be angry-manic. Manic phase is also probably when Lucas is able to reach those highs of smug arrogance and convince himself for a short time that he's an amazing handsome genius who all the girls secretly lust after etc. But eventually the thought will intrude: if I'm so great, why am I homeless, alone, mocked on the internet etc. and, unwilling to consider that maybe he's not plenty good, he begins to rail against this horrible unfair world full of bigots and malevolent voices on the wind. Maybe angry-manic is also fun for him, in a way? I know I don't enjoy being angry but I know for some people self righteous anger is like a drug.

edit: clarification

 

[Maxxicus Callahan]

He seems to believe he’s going to lead a successful revolution and become president of the US, which constitute delusions of grandeur in my view, as well as having voices in his head telling him all sorts of non mood congruent stuff.

It’s crazy that he’d actually think he would have any sort of chance at becoming president without even attempting to run. This is his lazy magical thinking at work since Lucas isn’t much of a doer he probably imagines that what will happen is enough people see his memes and everything else will fall into place with little to no effort. I can almost understand how in the complete rut Lucas has been in for the last ten years a raging narcissistic coping fantasy like becoming a powerful hero to the people helps Lucas sleep at night. It reminds me of Elliot Rodger’s idiotic power fantasy of reigning supreme in a giant tower built to watch over a field of concentration camps, he sounded like a ridiculous anime villain in his manifesto although Elliot in his writing admitted that this was never going to happen because becoming supreme dictator of the world is hard and takes work and that it was really more a fantasy for him to cope. All the time Lucas and Elliot spent thinking about their frustration they could have actually been doing something with their lives but they were both that lazy they’d rather fixate on why they can’t just receive a desired woman in their lap without having to work for anything.

 

[WonderWino]

Lots of other shit can cause voices. He does drugs, barely sleeps and has no normal human contact. Been living that life for years now and to a more and more extreme degree. Even as a teen he was a pothead and we truly don't know what other substances he's done...and now he's an elderly boomer who has racked up decades of usage of those chemicals. I think it would be a miracle if he weren't occasionally having intense convos with garbage cans.

Also I have noticed that with real schizos their delusions are either about their country's government chasing them down, or messiah figure stuff like thinking they're Gandhi or Jesus for example. Luke's shit about the Jen Zee superbabies just sounds to me like a fetish thing but gone obsessive, not much worse than that.

Final thought, look at his writing style. He uses that ridiculously overly correct, perfectly punctuated grammar topped off with a side order of pretentious smug Reddity tone. Writes like Hunter Thompson or Henry Rollins. Nobody in the throes of actual schizophrenia manages that. They sound like five year olds possessed by wild jackals. Not Luke.

He's too high functioning and with it. Just having psychotic tendencies isn't always the full blown thing.

He 'does drugs' as in pot, when he can afford to, which isn't very often. Pot isn't going to make you hear voices, let alone in the amounts he uses. I don't know where you're getting the idea that he doesn't sleep much. He's at a shelter, they enforce that shit at those places. and you'd be getting far worse than just voices from prolonged sleep depravation. He'd be completely out of his gourd by now. His writing style is irrelevant. Plenty of schizo's write perfectly fine. and the fact his delusions aren't about the government meaning he isn't schizo is absurd. Different people have different delusions. You're basing it off a literal stereotype. He does, by the way, have persecutory delusions, as evidenced by his paranoia and belief everyone who disagrees with him or knows anything about him being mental has to be a kiwifarmer. This site is essentially his version of 'the government is out to get me'

and again he and his mother have admitted the schizophrenia, and in true wern style, he lies about it ever having happened or outright claims it was photoshopped. The same as he always does when caught with something that makes him look bad. Lets not forget we're talking about a guy who thinks the wind has voices, that women hear background voices coming from the walls that tell them what to think about him, that talked about hearing his sink facet laugh at him and who talked about laying in bed and hearing zoomer baes outside his window yelling to him about how they wanted his sperm and wanted him to get them pregnant

If the trolls with cash to burn want something to do, they should register him as a candidate. I want to see "Wern for City Council. A bae in every bed or we burn your business." campaign ads made with chopped up Wern videos.

'a chicken in every toaster oven! a bae in every bed! socialism for the masses! feel the wern or we'll make you feel the burn!'

 

[ClownBrew]

I feel like you're making a lot of assumptions

And as far as diagnostic criteria you're pretty off. Not everyone with schizophrenia is a caricature like in movies.

But he absolutely has auditory hallucinations and difficulty controlling his mood and impulses

Dude.

Cut the faggoty smirky condescending Reddit bullshit and just say you disagree. I can take it.

You have no clue what Lucas "absolutely" hears in his head...no one here does.

All I'm saying is that the ridiculous amount of weed he smokes and his off the wall lifestyle can be just as crazymaking as any psychiatric condition. That's why I doubt he's a schizo. No, I don't know for sure, but neither do you.

 

[GleamingTheQ-Bert]

Maybe angry-manic is also fun for him, in a way? I know I don't enjoy being angry but I know for some people self righteous anger is like a drug.

I've often thought the same thing.

One trait which Lucas does have in common with a lot of the progressives he likes to suggest association with is near-constant "righteous" fury.

Absent his anger at the injustice of his lack of puss-puss, (can we agree this is one of Wern's most nauseating recent descriptors?) Lucas has little to say beyond reminiscing about food he's eaten and enjoyed, or thinking about food he will eat, in the future.

He's managed to channel his personal anger about feeling that the world owes him a better shake into this pseudopolitical identity. The roots of his atheism, which go much further back, stem from the same. This is something Lucas himself frequently references when he suggests that he's an atheist simply because he can't conceive of a loving God who hasn't given him a girlfriend. (The fact that he seems to think withholding his personal religious devotion from God somehow upsets God, and is somehow a bargaining chip for him to get a girlfriend, is another story.)

I actually think that this sort of transmutation is not uncommon, but the way Lucas does it, mixed in with his irrationality and his delusions, is obviously one of his unique and ubiquitous behaviors.

One of the things that the Geek Room got right was Irate Alex's suggestion (in his genteel British idiom which was far more respectful than Pukas deserved) that all of Lucas's political posing only comes down to him not having a girlfriend.

Lucas exploded with sardonic laughter at this, suggesting that he was the very definition of a liberal progressive, but whenever he talks about anything political for long enough, it comes down to him not having a girl, a thinly veiled metaphor for him not having a girl, or a reorganization of the world so that he's able to get a girl. Alex is absolutely right about this, of course. And that's why Lucas was upset. As everyone knows at this point, when you tell him the truth, Lucas blocks you, and gets immediately furious because any intrusion of reality into his cotton candy dream world of presidencies and Superior genetics is verboten.

Edit: The Queen is back! Cheers to @QueenBurritoSupreme 's return to the thread! May I second the request for any more receipts she has from the past? I'd love to see any details.

 

[ClownBrew]

Pot isn't going to make you hear voices

It sure did to a girl I knew irl. Absolutely zero use of any other drugs, started smoking weed and went psychotic shortly afterward. No family history of any mental illness, no past problems along those lines herself. Went from normal to paranoid to "targeted individual", shrink forbade her from ever touching it again. It can happen whether it's common or not.There are people who just don't handle it well.

and the fact his delusions aren't about the government meaning he isn't schizo is absurd.

That's not what I said, I said that that part is one of a few different reasons why I don't believe him. That and because his bullshit about "telomeres" sounds more like plain old autism to me.

You're basing it off a literal stereotype.

Well, yeah, paranoid schizos do tend to be paranoid.

 

[GleamingTheQ-Bert]

It sure did to a girl I knew irl. Absolutely zero use of any other drugs, started smoking weed and went psychotic shortly afterward. No family history of any mental illness, no past problems along those lines herself. Went from normal to paranoid to "targeted individual", shrink forbade her from ever touching it again. It can happen whether it's common or not.There are people who just don't handle it well.



That's not what I said, I said that that part is one of a few different reasons why I don't believe him. That and because his bullshit about "telomeres" sounds more like plain old autism to me.



Well, yeah, paranoid schizos do tend to be paranoid.

Dude, quit "defending" yourself.

The every-dozen-or-so-pages disagreement about whether or not Lucas is "actually" schizophrenic has at this point become a shameful hallmark of the thread, (as has this very sort of comment I'm making) one which derails any flow and bogs the discussion.

Lets all agree to disagree and drop it, 'kay?

 

[mothman96]

It sure did to a girl I knew irl. Absolutely zero use of any other drugs, started smoking weed and went psychotic shortly afterward. No family history of any mental illness, no past problems along those lines herself. Went from normal to paranoid to "targeted individual", shrink forbade her from ever touching it again. It can happen whether it's common or not.There are people who just don't handle it well.



That's not what I said, I said that that part is one of a few different reasons why I don't believe him. That and because his bullshit about "telomeres" sounds more like plain old autism to me.



Well, yeah, paranoid schizos do tend to be paranoid.

When he was at Eastern State psychiatric hospital 4 yrs ago, the Drs were treating him with Invega. Invega is for the treatment of schizophrenia. The doctors would not have him on such a med for a "personality problem". Due to the side effect he had of not producing semen, he was changed over to Abilify which is also a med for schizophrenia. When he was released from Eastern State Jan 2018 he was still on the Abilify and also taking Lithium. He decided to go off his meds around the time he entered college the fall of 2018.

 

[Stafford Beer Bong]

When he was at Eastern State psychiatric hospital 4 yrs ago, the Drs were treating him with Invega. Invega is for the treatment of schizophrenia. The doctors would not have him on such a med for a "personality problem". Due to the side effect he had of not producing semen, he was changed over to Abilify which is also a med for schizophrenia. When he was released from Eastern State Jan 2018 he was still on the Abilify and also taking Lithium. He decided to go off his meds around the time he entered college the fall of 2018.

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Even in this post where he talks about how he is trading between anti-schizo meds and jacking off in the tub, he still tries to frame it in the positive like, “Well I’m cummin’ like a faucet now and have no STDs so ladies I am ready for ya!”

 

[ClownBrew]

When he was at Eastern State psychiatric hospital 4 yrs ago, the Drs were treating him with Invega. Invega is for the treatment of schizophrenia. The doctors would not have him on such a med for a "personality problem".

Some of them prescribe shit "off label" if they think it can help another condition, but honestly I'd rather not argue in circles over it any further as it's starting to get truly pointless either way.

Easier just to revel in the horror of Homeboy wanking in a tub at the cuckoo's nest and producing money shots like a star. I pity the cleaning lady on that ward.

 

[Mother Fucker]

I think if you're inclined to put a lot of critical thought into the specifics of his mental illnesses, your time and energy is probably better placed in whether the absence of these illnesses would make him a measurably different person. The thread talks about this regularly and comes to the same conclusion every time. Lucas is an absolute piece of shit even with the acknowledgment of his disabilities.

 

[Maxxicus Callahan]

 

[LeeLoo]

Hold on...is he attempting to imply HE’S hot? Or does he mean the flatbills?

 

[QueenBurritoSupreme]

Edit: The Queen is back! Cheers to @QueenBurritoSupreme 's return to the thread! May I second the request for any more receipts she has from the past? I'd love to see any details.

I’m currently trying to find a document Lucas shared that had his diagnosis Bipolar II/schizoid personality disorder from a few years ago. If I find anything worth noting, I’ll post it.

 

[GleamingTheQ-Bert]

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Notice the careful wording on how he responded to Isaac "loudly enough".

Lucas doesn't understand that this unprompted response, oddly focused as it is on how loud he spoke, reads as both strange and unasked for, and reveals that the volume of his voice was HIS personal focus.

He felt cowardly. He wished he could have retorted volubly.

Thar means Lucas, at most, mumbled something under his breath that no one, least of all Isaac, heard... if this happened at all and he didn't just walk on.

I remember one time a year back Lucas was talking about how a fat woman had come up to him in the park, and said something supposedly sarcastic to him, and he suggested that he had snottily said "Bye!" and stalked off... half a second later he admitted he said nothing.

Lucas fancies himself quite the verbal riposte master, and will frequently rearrange his interactions with people in the past to make himself seem like he got the better of disagreements, had the last word, etc.

It's transparent wish-fulfillment, as are most of his retellings of his own past. Lucas's ideas about his own past are so wholly colored by his delusions of grandeur, and desire to present himself positively, that one often wonders whether he genuinely believes these fantasies or whether they're soothing enough, but mostly intended to present him positively to the audience.

In this regard, I'm particularly interested in his retellings of how his "relationships" ended with his past "girlfriends".

I would like to know much more detail, specifically about his early high School interactions with women, where he presents himself as the most mature man of his age.

Unfortunately, this chapter of proto-Wernology remains almost entirely unchronicled, beyond his above-mentioned fanciful grandiosities of his own Lothario conquests. The Wern dark ages, if you will.

 

[Wernology]

Hold on...is he attempting to imply HE’S hot? Or does he mean the flatbills?

Acting like he didn't use, "I know you are but what am I?" not even two days ago.

 

[Amewsed]

Hold on...is he attempting to imply HE’S hot? Or does he mean the flatbills?
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[Chucky McDurban]

It’s disgusting to think he actually thinks he doesn’t hurl disgusting comments about women every single day of his life. So much projection it’s crazy. It’s like he literally sees his behavior as a problem, then sweeps it under the rug like it’s EVERYONE else that’s saying give me a girlfriend or I’ll commit suicide (in the past) or his favorite “gimme a girl to take advantage of or I’ll call the cops” routine. I don’t understand at this point how you can keep looking at that picture of yourself and not see anything wrong with that statement immediately. And also the fact he’s also denying societal beauty standards. I’m a firm believer there’s someone for everyone, (based upon looks, some people are hopeless like Lucas) and that even if you’re not perfectly skinny/muscular or conventionally attractive there is alwayss someone that looks just as bad as you, or looks past your body and goes for your soul. My dad was almost 300 lbs with a cane after multiple hip surgeries and would be bringing home chicks every single weekend to smash. Being fat, not conventionally attractive, and not having a lot of money aren’t really that bad of obstacles to getting laid these days. We have the internet. As long as you aren’t psycho and have the slightest bit of charm, someone will go for it eventually. Lol

 

[le funny sex number 69]

He literally accuses other people of doing exactly what he was just doing. Quoi la fuck?

 

[Maxxicus Callahan]

It’s disgusting to think he actually thinks he doesn’t hurl disgusting comments about women every single day of his life. So much projection it’s crazy. It’s like he literally sees his behavior as a problem, then sweeps it under the rug like it’s EVERYONE else that’s saying give me a girlfriend or I’ll commit suicide (in the past) or his favorite “gimme a girl to take advantage of or I’ll call the cops” routine. I don’t understand at this point how you can keep looking at that picture of yourself and not see anything wrong with that statement immediately. And also the fact he’s also denying societal beauty standards. I’m a firm believer there’s someone for everyone, (based upon looks, some people are hopeless like Lucas) and that even if you’re not perfectly skinny/muscular or conventionally attractive there is alwayss someone that looks just as bad as you, or looks past your body and goes for your soul. My dad was almost 300 lbs with a cane after multiple hip surgeries and would be bringing home chicks every single weekend to smash. Being fat, not conventionally attractive, and not having a lot of money aren’t really that bad of obstacles to getting laid these days. We have the internet. As long as you aren’t psycho and have the slightest bit of charm, someone will go for it eventually. Lol

That's just it having the right attitude is kind of everything, otherwise why would anyone want to be with you if there no sense of value or purpose at the centre of your core being. What is so repulsive about Lucas is that he thinks a magic girlfriend will give him a sense of self-worth and completion as if having a girlfriend was the same as drinking unicorn blood to gain eternal life. You have to lead your own life even in a relationship you don't want to be with your partner constantly for everything. There is probably no bigger turn off than someone so reliant and clingy that they couldn't exist without you and a lot of young men fall into this stupid love sickness in High School, 'oh if only I had a girlfriend I wouldn't feel so small. and I'd have the confidence to be somebody.' Maybe I'm speaking from my own experience but most young men who have been stuck in this rut learn to grow out of it Lucas clearly hasn't, since puberty he has been stuck there in a pathological way. All Lucas will ever be is this stunted man-child that yearns for another half but has no emotional intelligence to know what that is. There is not much capacity for love at his core for animals, other people or even himself.

Edit: I can imagine how this must drives sociopaths crazy, what is this nebulous concept of emotional bonds that other people experience around me but I myself will never truly experience or feel.