I didn't say you had to go to MGTOW for anything. That said if some people manage to improve their lives from the internet rantings of middle aged weirdos rather than self help books or whatever then power to them. You can level the same criticism against those same self help books. Why read book X if its basically the same shit as book Y which was published 100 years ago, which is the same as book Z etc etc
I fully understand why MGTOW is a thing, the laws are shit and its only going to get worse because muh universal suffrage. My point was that I see it as nothing but an interchangeable term for eternal bachelor or the Japanese "herbivore men". The motivations for why men go their own way can be as simply as not being interested in committed relationships to viewing relationships as a game of Russian roulette in today's social and especially legal climate.
You can try to transcend the eternal monke in all of us, that is for example how we introduced and enforced monogamy through patriarchy. But if you are in complete and utter denial about human nature and go against it, you're doing so at your own peril. As I explained pages ago, there is a reason why post-wall stronk and independent womyn are crazy and bitter cunts, why middle-aged incels and MGTOWs are prone to being flailing spastics, why NEETs are for all intents and purposes zombies, why trannies have their 41% and so on.
Shitting inside a house, cooking food before eating it, asking for consent before fucking, and not ROFLstomping the infants of other males are all also against our biological instincts. Enforced exclusive monogamy through patriarchy is against our biological instincts. Just like pretending biological instincts don't exist at all is stupid, acting like biological instincts are the sole dictate of human behavior and acting against them lead to ruin is also stupid.
They'd be filtered out of the gene pool. When left on their own, problems like these are usually self-correcting.
Our biological programming isn't 100% absolute of course, but I'm 41% sure that acting against them does make you prone to mental ailments.
Fighting the monke is also why we have laws and societies and not total anarchy where we fight and kill each other for dominance.
Restraint of raw animal impulse to constructive ends is the point of monogamy, the institution of marriage, and much of human civilization in general.
Jumped the gun a bit fast here, huh? r/legaladvice is not an MGTOW forum, and some women being cunts and court bias does not justify 99% of MGTOW.
I didn't ask for a valid point- I was making the point that other groups make the same valid points as MGTOW without being mired in toxic sewage. That's it. Point over. Yes, MGTOW make a valid point about court bias (although the conclusions they draw are insane). Yakubians also make a valid point when they protest lynchings by the KKK.
Depends. In hindsight I should have used a better term since in extreme patriarchal settings (think of nature or warlords), polygamy tends to be even the norm. It was usually patriarchal institutions (state, religion, social norms etc.) that used to wrangle our monke impulses.
By being primates, we humans have a competitive based mating strategy where males compete and often kill each other over females with one alpha usually having a harem for himself and occasionally some betas temporarily teaming up to overthrow and kill said alpha before going at each others' throats again. That's just the way we evolved. Monogamy and marriage are - as much as this term makes me cringe - social constructs. We humans almost universally, at least when trying to evolve beyond a hunter-gatherer society, tend to ultimately drift towards these to turn violent male competition into male cooperation to have nice things such as an advanced civilisation.
And some men use women as a disposable means of pussy. Look how many men leave their wives when they get cancer, vs the opposite.
Okay, here you go, three out of dozens of different sources talking about the thing you claim nobody but MGTOW talk about, ever. A legal firm specializing in divorce, a lifestyle magazine for fathers, and a subreddit devoted specifically to egalitarian discussion of men's issues (aka another thing you implicitly claimed doesn't exist).
