Well, in this case, she was already prescribed it for bipolar, so I think it's just what was around.
Well, in this case, she was already prescribed it for bipolar, so I think it's just what was around.
While it absolutely wouldn't surprise me if she's bipolar, and I think she has a couple personality disorders, Kiley was not prescribed lithium at any point that I saw. In the cult worshipper Facebook group, she posted probably dozens of different months of her medication lists because she was alleging Sandy was selectively only paying for what she deemed appropriate. A big part of kiley's complaints about Sandy are mom was denying/cutting off medications, but what didn't add up is the types of medications. Metoprolol and diazepam were the ones I remember seeing, but her medication list is really long. It had things like ibuprofen, albuterol, and two or three skin prescriptions on it. I think kiley complained about mom refusing lidocaine patches at some point. I'm sorry I didn't think to fully document this thing that played out in that group.
As requested by KFS, reaching out to a person that I don't actually know, but I know was really burned by kiley came to my mind. I don't know the details beyond the fallout, but if kiley was awful enough to lose a bestie of many years, maybe the exbestie will talk. Kiley publicly booted and made an example of her. It was very ugly and I fekt really bad for the friend. Maybe appealing to that plus her empathy by pointing out that Kiley is literally accusing her own mom of actual attempted murder, poison, neglect, basically torture, starvation, abuse all publicly, would help. How could I ask her for her thoughts? I think exbff may have the most info on Sandy of anyone that actively also hates Kiley and might talk.
As far as Sandy's side, there were probably hours, fucking hours, of Sandy and Kiley audio recordings. Matt audio recordings. Nick audio recordings. I have some of them somewhere I'll be able to go through in the next few days.
The only things besides bugs, food, and animals she probably should have left alone that kiley posted from Florida were a ten or so minute video of her confronting a pharmacy employee in Florida and some photos as evidence her medications were being "tampered" with. She said she had to choose one out of two medications before she moved to Florida because the laws changed, and she cut out her opiate in favor of a muscle relaxer.
Both medications ended up in her prescription bottle around the time of her alleged third degree burn that she never showed follow up care for.
Matt filmed Kiley blaming the pharmacist for both medications being in her muscle relaxer bottle while the pharmacist said that was not possible. Matt contacted CVS and the medication manufacturer, and Sandy and Matt started to try figure out how to sue the pharmacy for her injuries that month. Kiley alleges that she never knowingly mixed medications and it was a conspiracy for mom to profit off of kiley being sick or injured, as she has twice in the past. (I have absolutely no idea what that means because other times kiley alleges Sandy profits from her beauty and limited local redneck success, so basically the opposite.)
So here again we have Kiley believably convincing everyone directly around her that she couldn't possibly have been the source of her own problems. Could lithium somehow be prescribed to kiley but procured in a way that kept it off her medical chart and pharmacy list?
Kiley became extremely paranoid and started recording basically everything at some point after she went back to Nebraska but had been back for awhile. Those were the hours upon hours of audios I admit I actually listened to and will regrettably revisit. Kiley has an insufferable voice and I may need copious amounts of red wine.
I did procure some shorter audio clips of Sandy and Kiley, but not sure this forum accepts their format. Will work on that. Which formats work here?
I was working on getting more info on Matt and ran into a weird issue. It's like there are two of exactly him, but they're not both him, but they are, like he has an identical twin but it's himself with the same name.
Matt William McDermott
DOB 04/05/1973 or 04/06/1973 or with a birth year as 1977 instead of 1973 sometimes. Does anyone else have a weird time figuring out who exactly he is? I know he was a Nebraska man who moved to Florida. I'm wondering if he was fleeing charges or something.
I've thought Matt was a victim in Hurricane Kiley this entire time, but it seems weird to me how oddly present he both is and isn't in this story. She only ever says nice things about Matt for seven months or her entire time in Florida, but we don't actually see him much. She thanks him for dinners out, trips, clothing, jewelry, liquor, and all sorts of purchases, often with photos, yet Matt is never in the photos. Even in the video with kiley's big tough dog and burned hand in plain site having a pharmacy meltdown, I don't actually think Matt turns the camera on himself ever.
I'm still trying to piece together a Florida timeline, and have always felt like Matt was definitely trying to help kiley in the way he had helped his own daughter and her "model" friends. Now I'm also starting to think Matt wasn't doing all of this heroic kiley care as innocently as he acted like. Or for "free."
Well, in this case, she was already prescribed it for bipolar, so I think it's just what was around.


I would probably sell my soul to hear Sandy's version of the events.
The attach files button just below the text box should let you upload an audio recording directly.
Audio clips of Sandy and Kiley and screenshot of Sandy's airbnb guest profile
