Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

I have read this entire thread these last few weeks, and I have to say - KFS you are a legend!

Kiley is fascinating. I just wanted to ask KFS do you have another post coming up where she begins posting claiming she has been poisoned? Does she ever explain the full story in detail? I would love to hear Sandy’s side of this story!
Nah, she only ever gives out little bits and pieces publicly. There's private groups I don't have access to where she apparently shares more, as @not124get said upthread. Part four and the updates from two days ago are the closest we get to the full story. I'm pretty sure she makes a lot of it up as she goes along, puts out feelers to see if people are buying her shit then bases her next claim on what flew and what did not.
 
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Also points out that while mom claims she needs this super supportive chair Dusty is perfectly capable of unsupported sitting. They're familiar with childhood disabilities like this and going to see if there's anything else to share with the class. They suspect the kid is being drugged.
Shit like this pisses me off more than most other things here. Probably because I know there's nothing I can do to help that poor kid, combined with the fact that MBP, unlike "regular" child abuse, is so much harder to detect. F, man. Give me the top hats. I hope someone calls her out soon.
 
yeah that's the read I was getting on it as an absolute outsider. Mom didn't want to believe her daughter was doing this on purpose and all the law enforcement and outside testing was her trying to figure out what the hell was going on. Daughter didn't want to admit she was just starving herself so she contaminated the foods her mother was going to test. Mom's reward for giving her the benefit of the doubt was to get tagged an attempted murderer by her daughter.

Yeah I know her mom enabled her but so did the families of most of the people we discuss and they all just ended up as failures to launch bringing their dogs to Disney.

If you haven't already taken a glance, there's a thread here on Ashley Isaacs who is similar in a lot of ways. She starved herself down to ~40 lbs and has been hovering there for years as her body shuts down. Obvious personality disorder. Until maybe a year ago when she was put in an assisted care facility she still lived with her mother who got blamed for everything and was accused of refusing to provide Ashley with food and other necessities. The big difference being Ashley doesn't deny that she has an eating disorder, she just claims her mom has one too and used to compete with her to lose weight.



She also said her doctor was completely shocked by the results, had never seen anything like it, and sent it around to others in toxicology trying to figure out how it was possible she was testing so high (although she was hinting it was the arsenic, not the lithium, that was off the charts). I really don't think she was poisoning herself at all, just contaminating anything that was being tested.


Edit: a friend who lurks here just said that they've been following Dusty Mae and it's definitely a case of MBP. They tell me the kid had a feeding tube presumably for failure to thrive and by toddler age was healthy, walking around and hitting appropriate milestones. Mom was only claiming they both had hEDS. Friend stopped following her for a while and when they checked in a year and a half or so later found the kid was now in a full support power chair with therapy tray, now claiming both she and the kid had vEDS and suspected she also had kEDS (not possible), and had added a host of other diagnoses. She's apparently dialed back that one now and is just saying hEDS again? I don't know, I haven't had time to look into it this week. Here's a video showing Dusty acted normal as a toddler.

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Also points out that while mom claims she needs this super supportive chair Dusty is perfectly capable of unsupported sitting. They're familiar with childhood disabilities like this and going to see if there's anything else to share with the class. They suspect the kid is being drugged.
Shit, it didn't even occur to me that Dusty could be drugged and that's why she looks floppy in all her pictures. That's depressing as fuck.
 
That girl is way too old for a binky.
She is, but I suppose if a child has a crazy MBP mom traumatizing and medically abusing them they tend to hold on to the few comforting things they have in life tightly. I’d bet being forced to act in mommy’s newest video about being very very sick causes the kid intense anxiety and therefore she wants that pacifier.

The mom, of course, doesn’t discourage it because it makes her seem younger and feeds into her autism narrative.

I really can’t follow or watch evil bitches like this. Their saccharine videos and mousy act while bathing in the attention their evil child abuse gets them makes me want to throttle them.
 
Agony Autie is at it again...
She's "sectioned" after filming the aftermath of self harming. Now she's 'stim' dancing in the mental health hospital.
Her Facebook account was shut down after the SH video. Check out the hash tags.

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Agony Autie is at it again...
She's "sectioned" after filming the aftermath of self harming. Now she's 'stim' dancing in the mental health hospital.
Her Facebook account was shut down after the SH video. Check out the hash tags.

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Also to add to this, this started because she is potentially getting frank taken off her for being an unfit mother (luckily he is with his dad most of the time) Yeah suicide baiting on Facebook is really going to help her case.
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I don't think the lithium was actually in her blood while it was inside of her body. Everything I'm seeing said she'd absolutely be dead with levels that high. This wasn't a rapid ER test but a private service her mom was paying for, mailing in, and then waiting on results. If you look at the top right corner it took over a week between when she got her blood draw and when she got the results. No mention of having to be in the ER getting treated for a massive lithium overdose and you know she would have milked it for every dialysis selfie.

i'm still going with dumped lithium capsules into her sample.
I'm still fairly certain she had to be dosing herself to be unable to walk to her seat on a plane. But then to be fine enough to be scary skelly dancing at a football game a week later maybe after medical treatment?

I spy at least three monitoring devices and her rib cage in plain view. She wanted everyone to see how grotesquely thin she is. Notice how rude kiley is when she bumps into the girl, tries to play it off, and the girl just smiles uncomfortably. She probably wanted to hit her but was too polite to pick on someone so pathetic. Imagine being somewhere and a girl like that coming up next to you to dance.

I think Kiley was so desperate she was even paying Matt's daughter Mariah (Moriah?) to be her friend! Lol. On her Facebook, kiley complains about not having enough money to pay for her dog's surgery (Sandy-Daddy trust fund lies?) and her medications but she was paying thousands of dollars to a 20-something fellow wannabe model.

Nobody wants Kiley. There are zero pictures of Mariah and her anywhere on any of their pages. I follow Mariah for similar reasons to Kiley, the wannabe model public hot mess ED skinny entitled white bitch trainwreck free entertainment putposes. I guess it costs Kiley five figures to be tolerated, not simply four 🤣. The closest thing to a picture of the two girls Mariah's daughter hugging Kiley's nazi dog.

I almost feel bad for her until I remember there is nothing to like about her.
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Is this machine dialysis?


 
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I personally know two people who Morgan has met online and on Munch Snark subreddit they’re coming out of the woodwork. Laurie hit up the mom (who she only knew from a support group) of a child who had recently died to see if Morgan could have leftover pain meds. This is a new low even for the McCastors.
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I personally know two people who Morgan has met online and on Munch Snark subreddit they’re coming out of the woodwork. Laurie hit up the mom (who she only knew from a support group) of a child who had recently died to see if Morgan could have leftover pain meds. This is a new low even for the McCastors.

Jesus fucking christ. I shouldn't be surprised. Yes, I'd love to think that Laurie has standards, BUT she's also been grifting in her munchie daughter's name for years. Ffs that's extraordinarily low, though. Wonder if she bothered to offer condolences before trying to get drugs on her junkie daughter's behalf?

Maybe the apple really didn't fall far from the tree. Wonder what life would look like if the dad and brother just fucked off and bailed on the neverending munchfest? I know, wishful thinking. Just wondering how much each parent contributes to Morgan's munch lifestyle, mostly from a financial standpoint. He seems eternally embarrassed by their antics.
 
Well, in this case, she was already prescribed it for bipolar, so I think it's just what was around.

Well, in this case, she was already prescribed it for bipolar, so I think it's just what was around.
While it absolutely wouldn't surprise me if she's bipolar, and I think she has a couple personality disorders, Kiley was not prescribed lithium at any point that I saw. In the cult worshipper Facebook group, she posted probably dozens of different months of her medication lists because she was alleging Sandy was selectively only paying for what she deemed appropriate. A big part of kiley's complaints about Sandy are mom was denying/cutting off medications, but what didn't add up is the types of medications. Metoprolol and diazepam were the ones I remember seeing, but her medication list is really long. It had things like ibuprofen, albuterol, and two or three skin prescriptions on it. I think kiley complained about mom refusing lidocaine patches at some point. I'm sorry I didn't think to fully document this thing that played out in that group.

As requested by KFS, reaching out to a person that I don't actually know, but I know was really burned by kiley came to my mind. I don't know the details beyond the fallout, but if kiley was awful enough to lose a bestie of many years, maybe the exbestie will talk. Kiley publicly booted and made an example of her. It was very ugly and I fekt really bad for the friend. Maybe appealing to that plus her empathy by pointing out that Kiley is literally accusing her own mom of actual attempted murder, poison, neglect, basically torture, starvation, abuse all publicly, would help. How could I ask her for her thoughts? I think exbff may have the most info on Sandy of anyone that actively also hates Kiley and might talk.

As far as Sandy's side, there were probably hours, fucking hours, of Sandy and Kiley audio recordings. Matt audio recordings. Nick audio recordings. I have some of them somewhere I'll be able to go through in the next few days.

The only things besides bugs, food, and animals she probably should have left alone that kiley posted from Florida were a ten or so minute video of her confronting a pharmacy employee in Florida and some photos as evidence her medications were being "tampered" with. She said she had to choose one out of two medications before she moved to Florida because the laws changed, and she cut out her opiate in favor of a muscle relaxer.

Both medications ended up in her prescription bottle around the time of her alleged third degree burn that she never showed follow up care for.

Matt filmed Kiley blaming the pharmacist for both medications being in her muscle relaxer bottle while the pharmacist said that was not possible. Matt contacted CVS and the medication manufacturer, and Sandy and Matt started to try figure out how to sue the pharmacy for her injuries that month. Kiley alleges that she never knowingly mixed medications and it was a conspiracy for mom to profit off of kiley being sick or injured, as she has twice in the past. (I have absolutely no idea what that means because other times kiley alleges Sandy profits from her beauty and limited local redneck success, so basically the opposite.)

So here again we have Kiley believably convincing everyone directly around her that she couldn't possibly have been the source of her own problems. Could lithium somehow be prescribed to kiley but procured in a way that kept it off her medical chart and pharmacy list?

Kiley became extremely paranoid and started recording basically everything at some point after she went back to Nebraska but had been back for awhile. Those were the hours upon hours of audios I admit I actually listened to and will regrettably revisit. Kiley has an insufferable voice and I may need copious amounts of red wine.

I did procure some shorter audio clips of Sandy and Kiley, but not sure this forum accepts their format. Will work on that. Which formats work here?

I was working on getting more info on Matt and ran into a weird issue. It's like there are two of exactly him, but they're not both him, but they are, like he has an identical twin but it's himself with the same name.

Matt William McDermott
DOB 04/05/1973 or 04/06/1973 or with a birth year as 1977 instead of 1973 sometimes. Does anyone else have a weird time figuring out who exactly he is? I know he was a Nebraska man who moved to Florida. I'm wondering if he was fleeing charges or something.

I've thought Matt was a victim in Hurricane Kiley this entire time, but it seems weird to me how oddly present he both is and isn't in this story. She only ever says nice things about Matt for seven months or her entire time in Florida, but we don't actually see him much. She thanks him for dinners out, trips, clothing, jewelry, liquor, and all sorts of purchases, often with photos, yet Matt is never in the photos. Even in the video with kiley's big tough dog and burned hand in plain site having a pharmacy meltdown, I don't actually think Matt turns the camera on himself ever.

I'm still trying to piece together a Florida timeline, and have always felt like Matt was definitely trying to help kiley in the way he had helped his own daughter and her "model" friends. Now I'm also starting to think Matt wasn't doing all of this heroic kiley care as innocently as he acted like. Or for "free."
Well, in this case, she was already prescribed it for bipolar, so I think it's just what was around.
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I would probably sell my soul to hear Sandy's version of the events.


The attach files button just below the text box should let you upload an audio recording directly.

Audio clips of Sandy and Kiley and screenshot of Sandy's airbnb guest profile
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I personally know two people who Morgan has met online and on Munch Snark subreddit they’re coming out of the woodwork. Laurie hit up the mom (who she only knew from a support group) of a child who had recently died to see if Morgan could have leftover pain meds. This is a new low even for the McCastors.
Yikes. Lately I've been getting the vibe that Morgan is selfish/manipulative when it comes to her parents. She mentioned lately that she got a new Apple watch and a iPhone 11 Pro Max (which she shattered and got replaced), but she always says her mother calls her Doctors whenever she runs out of drugs or needs appointments. Awfully expensive toys for even someone WITH a job. Her poor parents will never be able to retire
 
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