The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

[Tism the Return]

I want America to prove that the best looter game was the riots we made along the way.

 

[Cyclonus]

They'll find him guilty because they know if they don't America is going to rip itself apart.

 

[Gig Bucking Fun]

The bigger issue at hand is police reform. Not saying “ACAB”, but a lot of officers are severely unprepared to handle situations such as the one Chauvin was put in. They get on average three hours of training a year, which means a majority of officers (or at least a significant portion) are not equipped to properly handle tense scenarios.

Of course, the nuance of this discussion is completely lost in the MSM, resulting in an issue of a lack of proper handling of police officers to spawn a movement to take the little resources they have or are mismanaged, which can only cause worse policing.

 

[360NoTrope]

Standard procedure is to shift from the neck hold to another restraint ASAP as suffocation can and will result, especially with a suspect on their front. You only use the neckhold until you can apply other means. Even if someone is dying, if you take efforts to speed that death along, or doing things that can cause death isn't smart.

You're also not supposed to restrain suspects on the ground face down for a long period for the same reason. It can kill people, and it has killed people - you're supposed to prop them up against something - I doubt Floyd could have gotten his feet under him to try to stand if they'd sat him up , and it's relatively easy to press someone trying to get up like that back to the ground. He picked the worst possible way of restraining him, as a 'shoulder press' can quickly turn into a neck press and cut off circulation or the windpipe, if you're positioning yourself high up on the body.

Tony Timpa died this way, prone, with an officer on his back compressing his chest and diaphragm. Floyd had three cops restraining him but it wasn't Chauvin on his back, so even if positional asphyxia did bring down this gentlest of giants, the lack of neck injuries means they probably don't even have the right cop.

Officer Lane (his fourth day on the job) did repeatedly suggest rolling Floyd over, but Chauvin ignoring this seems a far cry from murder in the third.

 

[Techpriest]

The bigger issue at hand is police reform. Not saying “ACAB”, but a lot of officers are severely unprepared to handle situations such as the one Chauvin was put in. They get on average three hours of training a year, which means a majority of officers (or at least a significant portion) are not equipped to properly handle tense scenarios.

Of course, the nuance of this discussion is completely lost in the MSM, resulting in an issue of a lack of proper handling of police officers to spawn a movement to take the little resources they have, which can only cause worse policing.

"The little resources they have"

Half the problem is the department spends what resources they have on shit like a new APC because war on terror budget money. Cops already get about half the budget of almost every single major city.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Can't believe you got neg-rated for this.

Faggots crying about stickers is why we can't have nice things.

 

[LemmeSee]

They'll find him guilty because they know if they don't America is going to rip itself apart.

Hung jury, calling it now. Maximum drama.

 

[Techpriest]

Tony Timpa died this way, prone, with an officer on his back compressing his chest and diaphragm. Floyd had three cops restraining him but it wasn't Chauvin on his back, so even if positional asphyxia did bring down this gentlest of giants, the lack of neck injuries means they probably don't even have the right cop.

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That's the guy and scenario I was remembering. It's very possible and tragically common to accidentally kill someone through positional asphyxia.

 

[DumbDude42]

The bigger issue at hand is police reform. Not saying “ACAB”, but a lot of officers are severely unprepared to handle situations such as the one Chauvin was put in. They get on average three hours of training a year, which means a majority of officers (or at least a significant portion) are not equipped to properly handle tense scenarios.

Of course, the nuance of this discussion is completely lost in the MSM, resulting in an issue of a lack of proper handling of police officers to spawn a movement to take the little resources they have, which can only cause worse policing.

nonsense tbh
arresting people isn't rocket science, and neither is any other part of the polices job except maybe the forensics high tech related stuff but i think that is done by dedicated tech specialists anyway

 

[Bananadana]

Faggots crying about stickers is why we can't have nice things.

The Redditor fears the Downvote.

 

[Techpriest]

The Redditor fears the Downvote.

The Redditor also autistically downvotes everything because they don't like someone. We've got a lot of Redditors here now.

 

[Extreme Aneurysm]

The Redditor fears the Downvote.

If you have a different opinion on reddit you get banned.

 

[NyQuilninja]

The Redditor also autistically downvotes everything because they don't like someone. We've got a lot of Redditors here now.

Yeah I noticed

 

[Xx_Retard Faggot 1488_xX]

The bigger issue at hand is police reform. Not saying “ACAB”, but a lot of officers are severely unprepared to handle situations such as the one Chauvin was put in. They get on average three hours of training a year, which means a majority of officers (or at least a significant portion) are not equipped to properly handle tense scenarios.

Of course, the nuance of this discussion is completely lost in the MSM, resulting in an issue of a lack of proper handling of police officers to spawn a movement to take the little resources they have or are mismanaged, which can only cause worse policing.

If more dead niggers is the outcome I say maybe BLM has a point.

 

[JustSomeDong]

"The little resources they have"

Half the problem is the department spends what resources they have on shit like a new APC because war on terror budget money. Cops already get about half the budget of almost every single major city.

A lot of departments around me that got MRAPs and other milsurp stuff didn't pay dick for it. They were practically giving out milsurp for a few years back during the reign of the great beige one.

ETA: Also, the two nearest me with MRAPS don't spend to maintain them, either. They've been rusting in the parking lots for years, never moved.

 

[Elaine Benes]

Remember the summer when during the 4th of July BLM did a twerking tribute to honor the civil rights legacy of MLK on sacred US monuments, including the one dedicated to fallen troops from WWII? That's the immediate and constant future that's coming if Derek Chauvin isn't let off.
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You say that like it's a bad thing.

 

[LaxerBRO]

Part of me wants to see him be found not guilty on all charges simply because the chimpout that would occur would be one for the ages.

Exactly why you should live in a region less than 1% Black in addition to it being fairly conservative.

An armed society is a polite society.

Standard procedure is to shift from the neck hold to another restraint ASAP as suffocation can and will result, especially with a suspect on their front. You only use the neckhold until you can apply other means. Even if someone is dying, if you take efforts to speed that death along, or doing things that can cause death isn't smart.

You're also not supposed to restrain suspects on the ground face down for a long period for the same reason. It can kill people, and it has killed people - you're supposed to prop them up against something - I doubt Floyd could have gotten his feet under him to try to stand if they'd sat him up , and it's relatively easy to press someone trying to get up like that back to the ground. He picked the worst possible way of restraining him, as a 'shoulder press' can quickly turn into a neck press and cut off circulation or the windpipe, if you're positioning yourself high up on the body.

Looks like a recovery position to me. Part of standard police training:

 

[Papa Adolfo's Take'n'Bake]

Lol who care. Grifters in gov't gonna grift, bribe and writhe their way to their desired outcome to keep the tards on the shortbus.

 

[Bongocat]

Next thing they're gonna say is the American flag is racist because white people made it and propose a new red, black and green flag like fucking Africa.

Well, the first part already happened. The second part is not far off.

 

[Techpriest]

A lot of departments around me that got MRAPs and other milsurp stuff didn't pay dick for it. They were practically giving out milsurp for a few years back during the reign of the great beige one.

I thought they had to pay a small price for that shit with those programs, obscenely cheap, but not free. Maybe they got grant money for it?

Still the obsession with the war on terror made departments buy stupid fucking shit, like some departments that blew their budgets on P90's with AP rounds galore for SWAT because 'terrorists with body armor' that never run into anyone with body armor. Also the obsession with giggle switch patrol carbines for every single cop car when cops miss ~80% of their shots anyway. That shit ain't cheap, even with LEO discounts.