The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

[Fields Of Rye]

So she's trying to say cops need more training and funding?

Training. Funding. A Secure facility. Millions of dollars worth of equipment. And a fleet of ambulances that can take you there.

Oh yeah, and also that the people who use their services have to pay.

 

[Hüftpriester]

Nelson has that Minnesota accent. Yah, yaah, doon'tcha knooow

 

[Not Really Here]

God I just realized what she's trying to do

She's trying to apply state funded Emergency room standards to the police. As in, they are required to provide you adequate medical care, provided you consent to it. This doesn't apply to small clinics. If you show up to a general clinic covered in blood, they don't have to help you so long as they aren't an emergency room.

How it started: Chauvin choked out Floyd, who was not high, slowly and methodically, so he's guilty of murder

How it is: Chauvin didn't immediately start CPR the moment Floyd lost consciousness so he's guilty of murder

There are people in this thread who seem to think that.
Not doing something doesn't equal doing something negligent.

 

[Meat Target]

she's trying to say cops need more training

Anyone who says "you need more training", especially to cops or gun owners, is usually clueless airhead in no position to lecture whomever they are addressing. Shannon Watts comes to mind.

 

[Übertroon]

There are people in this thread who seem to think that.
Not doing something doesn't equal doing something negligent.

Could use the prosecutor as evidence then, people not trained in proper EMT work might do stupid shit like immediate shock treatment

 

[Retard#7822]

im like 99% sure you aren't supposed to have non uniformed randos touch someone during an arrest, especially given that floyd was kicking and flailing and screaming

Completely right in the context of the scene not being safe. If things were different and it was just some rando that fell out in the middle of the market and a cop was there, they probably would take you at your word that you are an EMT and let you help work him. When they consider the scene unsafe, they are pretty much guaranteed to not let you touch them. Cops main priority on medicals is scene safety.

 

[General Disarray]

I'm not liking the crawl on Court TV.

As it's coming: the Uber driver killer case caught on cam. But they don't mention that the perp was black. The next story is that a white guy was charged with a hate crime after hitting some black dude in the face with a bike lock.
Wait, here we go - some dude named Derrell Hunter is accused of burglary and staking on an Asian woman in Cali. No mention of hate crime on this one? No mention of race?
Oh no! John Legend's cousin was shot by a cop in VA Beach? *cries* Hm, let's look that up. Well, well, well. They conveniently didn't mention the fact he was brandishing a gun. And on, and on, it goes.

 

[AnOminous]

Based judge BTFO the prosecution and their witnesses everytime they tried to play jewish tricks, he can take all the fucking breaks he wants for all i care, based sleepy judge

These aren't Jewish tricks, they're just stupid. Jewish would be schmoozing the judge until he rules your way, not constantly pissing him off.

 

[Retard#7822]

I'm not liking the crawl on Court TV.

As it's coming: the Uber driver killer case caught on cam. But they don't mention that the perp was black. The next story is that a white guy was charged with a hate crime after hitting some black dude in the face with a bike lock.
Wait, here we go - some dude named Derrell Hunter is accused of burglary and staking on an Asian woman in Cali. No mention of hate crime on this one? No mention of race?
Oh no! John Legend's cousin was shot by a cop in VA Beach? *cries* Hm, let's look that up. Well, well, well. They conveniently didn't mention the fact he was brandishing a gun. And on, and on, it goes.

Weird, like they have an agenda or something.

 

[Meat Target]

This is the vibe I am getting. They may be abandoning Chauvin actually killing Floyd, but consciously and willing prevented people from helping him, so that obstruction makes him responsible. They may also be trying to pin every second Floyd wasn't in the hospital onto him.

Then they're scuttling the murder charge and trying to get manslaughter instead. Which means the cities will soon get crispy.

 

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The narrative is going to shift from Derek suffocated him to he should’ve performed CPR. Which yeah they probably should have but they also had assholes screaming at them.

They already set that up earlier, with the talk about "duty of care" and all that.

 

[LUNEKO]

These aren't Jewish tricks, they're just stupid. Jewish would be schmoozing the judge until he rules your way, not constantly pissing him off.

That explains why it comes off as the judge being on Derek side, he's not, its just that the prosecution is legit that retarded

 

[ThatOneLurker]

Then they're scuttling the murder charge and trying to get manslaughter instead. Which means the cities will soon get crispy.

Summer of love.

 

[AnOminous]

Then they're scuttling the murder charge and trying to get manslaughter instead. Which means the cities will soon get crispy.

There's a concept in decision theory where you can manipulate someone's decision by including an option that nobody would actually choose, so they appear to have more of a choice than they do. It makes them look like they're making a compromise decision if they choose manslaughter, because they decided not to convict him of the most serious charge, even if that charge had virtually no chance of sticking.

 

[Had]

Then they're scuttling the murder charge and trying to get manslaughter instead. Which means the cities will soon get crispy.

 

[HARSH NOISE]

There's a concept in decision theory where you can manipulate someone's decision by including an option that nobody would actually choose, so they appear to have more of a choice than they do. It makes them look like they're making a compromise decision if they choose manslaughter, because they decided not to convict him of the most serious charge, even if that charge had virtually no chance of sticking.

My dad taught me about this when I was a kid. He kept bugging my mother saying "I'm gonna get a Corvette" just so he could talk her down to buying a crotch rocket. He still has that bike too.

 

[Łimønča]

So, if the prosecution really scuttles the murder charge, how exactly will they argue the manslaughter charge? Are they seriously going to say that Derek Chauvin was t-posing infront of the stretcher blocking its path?

 

[NyQuilninja]

You think maybe the prosecutor isnt i giving 2 shits and a fucks because they are assume they have a Guaranteed win?

 

[AnOminous]

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Minnesota has an oddball charge called "third degree murder," a term that currently only exists in three states (Minnesota itself and Pennsylvania and Florida), which requires "an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life." This general concept exists in all states but is often called something like "depraved heart murder."

They're also shooting for this, which is why they're trying to paint Chauvin specifically as a terrible person. Demonizing the defendant is pretty common in a jury trial, but here, it would be very important, because while proving the defendant is, in general, a bad person doesn't prove depraved heart murder, someone who isn't a bad person couldn't have a state of mind that only a genuinely terrible person would have.

You think maybe the prosecutor isnt i giving 2 shits and a fucks because they are assume they have a Guaranteed win?

I honestly think it truly is that level of arrogance, much like the prosecutors in the O.J. trial. They might even be right with this jury.

 

[Trianon]

So, if the prosecution really scuttles the murder charge, how exactly will they argue the manslaughter charge? Are they seriously going to say that Derek Chauvin was t-posing infront of the stretcher blocking its path?

I do like the idea of Chad Paramedic laser-beaming everyone in his path to deal with situations like this. "He had to be eliminated."