7/23 Court Date

[Rammspieler]

Maybe

Your remark has me wondering if Chris PD has arranged for some sort of tard wrangling team for Chris, to ensure that he keeps in line. We know there's at least one new player on the scene, there may be more that we're unaware of.

Otherwise, either Chris has been on his best behavior (despite blarms) or there has been an incident or two we just haven't heard about yet.

one of your "friends" who is friends with Chris can find out?

 

[Fapcup]

If the next court date is in October, that should mean that there's plenty of time for the new WK to realize that Chris is trying to get in her armor, and get perved out.

It's also more than enough time for Chris to get hooked on to some "freeman on the land"/sovereign citizens theories.

If somebody would be able to get some very basic beginners level FMOTL materials in his hands that is.

I have a feeling that it could be right up his semi-autistic mind. Chris loves freebies, being special and have special rules apply to him.

And a lot of the FMOTL stuff is very structured, seemingly logical and relies on an extremely literal reading of things. Autists dig that kind of stuff.

I'd pay good money to see/hear Chris stand up in court and go: "Mhmm, seeing as this is an admiralty ehm court, and also... Since I'm not the all caps-paper person charged but I'm Christine Weston of the Chandler family, I-mhmm declare myself free to go!"

 

[P-Logic]

If the reporter is legit (and doesn't work for some third-rate rag suitable for bird cage lining material or puppy potty training) and she does proper research, she'll soon find out that Chris isn't the poor innocent little victim she originally believed him to be. For example, how do you think she'd react to "She Came For CWC" or the Megan emails?

Honestly? I think she wouldn't react very strongly. For one thing, the content isn't that bad. It's just disgusting, juvenile and pathetic. It doesn't justify a whole army of people on the Internet watching and cataloguing his every move. No one is ever going to go "It's completely unremarkable that thousands of people stalk, deceive and torment this guy as a hobby because he's not a gentleman." C'mon man, think about it.

What kind of impression would she have of Chris after talking to the various managers, employees, and security personnel at business establishments where he's been banned.

Probably have the impression that he's a deeply troubled man with mental health issues.

I know that the consensus here is that Chris is an evil man who deserves all the misery that is coming to him, and more besides. But honestly, normal people aren't going to see it like that. The guy drew a stupid picture and was a cunt to a girl who was taking advantage of him anyway. You guys are talking like it will erase all sympathy for him, like he molested a child. Even if it did make people stop pitying him, it still wouldn't make sense for hundreds of strangers to spend hours cataloguing the banal minutiae of his life.

 

[Tubular Monkey]

I know that the consensus here is that Chris is an evil man who deserves all the misery that is coming to him, and more besides.

Almost no one here thinks this.

 

[Subconcious Offense]

I know that the consensus here is that Chris is an evil man who deserves all the misery that is coming to him, and more besides. But honestly, normal people aren't going to see it like that. The guy drew a stupid picture and was a cunt to a girl who was taking advantage of him anyway. You guys are talking like it will erase all sympathy for him, like he molested a child. Even if it did make people stop pitying him, it still wouldn't make sense for hundreds of strangers to spend hours cataloguing the banal minutiae of his life.

He got off scott free for running over some old fuck and then pepper sprayed someone in the vicinity of a bunch of kids over blue arms. You'd have to be pretty abnormal to sympathize with him, especially when he's the only one out of all the autistics to do these things and when people get pissed at others for less.

 

[P-Logic]

He got off scott free for running over some old fuck and then pepper sprayed someone in the vicinity of a bunch of kids over blue arms. You'd have to be pretty abnormal to sympathize with him, especially when he's the only one out of all the autistics to do these things and when people get pissed at others for less.

Sure, he's an asshole. But most assholes don't have internet followings, or exhaustive encyclopedias written about them. This is the compelling part.

And that's why a journalist could easily write a sympathetic piece towards him. Because he really has done nothing to deserve the attention we give him. There are many far worse people who are much less vilified. No normal person would conclude that he deserves all this.

 

[GS 281]

P-logic posts are like a game of bullseye. They come close to the center, but end up striking that bottom point of the 1.

No one thinks Chris is evil, they think he is interesting. Chris deserves some benefit of the doubt because of his limitations, however he crosses the line when he runs people over, pepper sprays people and harasses people working at local businesses. Being a retard is not a license to act like a retard in public carte blanche. People who are able to hold retards at arms length do not get that as they get to go home at night. His new task force will learn three things: 1.) What "trolls" do to Chris (you know the guy that "trolls" sent care packages to when his house burnt down and who buy his useless shit?) is far more benign than he makes it out to be. 2.) At this point, Chris begs for attention far more than "trolls" seek to antagonize behavior out of him (e.g. JOIN THE BLARMS CRUSADE!, BUY MY SHIT!, REPORT ME FOR SHOWING MY MOOBS!) 3.) Chris' living condition is the scope of his problems (Barb, 14 BLC being a hoard palace, not being taught how to behave in public). What will they do then? Get him help? No. They will pat him on the head and say "I am so sorry about those dang, dirty trolls Chris" and move on to the next feel-good project.

Chris needs a true professional, not some fly-by-night social worker or some goofball from tumblr

 

[Subconcious Offense]

Sure, he's an asshole. But most assholes don't have internet followings, or exhaustive encyclopedias written about them. This is the compelling part.

And that's why a journalist could easily write a sympathetic piece towards him. Because he really has done nothing to deserve the attention we give him. There are many far worse people who are much less vilified. No normal person would conclude that he deserves all this.

The flaw in your logic is that his fame was not the cause of the worst things he has done nor his worst sufferings. If anything his fame benefited him. Fame did not cause him to burn his house down, fame got him a care package worth HOW MUCH? Fame did not curse him with terrible art skills, fame lets him profit off it this very moment on ebay. Fame did not cause him to run over nor mace people either, fame got him these white knights trying to protect him from the resulting punishments.

 

[P-Logic]

Being a exceptional individual is not a license to act like a exceptional individual in public carte blanche.

I never said this. My point is that Chris is still a sympathetic figure, despite his fuck ups, just because of how insane the internet's reaction to him has been.

It's also worth remembering that all of Chris's serious trouble happened after the internet noticed him. You and I know he'd have done all that anyway, but a journalist could paint a different picture. A vulnerable man, caring for his elderly mother, stalked and harassed by thousands on the internet. Breaking his heart, destroying his possessions, digging through his trash, stalking his court appearances. It's not hard to make Chris the hero and us the villains, if you ignore a few facts and highlight a few others. You could even make his criminal acts work in his favor, by claiming his mental health has been degraded by faceless, anonymous abusers. You know what the media are like. They love good vs. bad, black and white stories.

 

[Trilby]

I never said this. My point is that Chris is still a sympathetic figure, despite his fuck ups, just because of how insane the internet's reaction to him has been.

It's also worth remembering that all of Chris's serious trouble happened after the internet noticed him. You and I know he'd have done all that anyway, but a journalist could paint a different picture. A vulnerable man, caring for his elderly mother, stalked and harassed by thousands on the internet. Breaking his heart, destroying his possessions, digging through his trash, stalking his court appearances. It's not hard to make Chris the hero and us the villains, if you ignore a few facts and highlight a few others. You could even make his criminal acts work in his favor, by claiming his mental health has been degraded by faceless, anonymous abusers. You know what the media are like. They love good vs. bad, black and white stories.

They would do that.

 

[Panpizza]

I never said this. My point is that Chris is still a sympathetic figure, despite his fuck ups, just because of how insane the internet's reaction to him has been.

It's also worth remembering that all of Chris's serious trouble happened after the internet noticed him. You and I know he'd have done all that anyway, but a journalist could paint a different picture. A vulnerable man, caring for his elderly mother, stalked and harassed by thousands on the internet. Breaking his heart, destroying his possessions, digging through his trash, stalking his court appearances. It's not hard to make Chris the hero and us the villains, if you ignore a few facts and highlight a few others. You could even make his criminal acts work in his favor, by claiming his mental health has been degraded by faceless, anonymous abusers. You know what the media are like. They love good vs. bad, black and white stories.

I think you're overstating Chris' popularity and relevance. The amount of people taking actions that could be considered "stalking" and "harassing" certainly aren't anywhere near thousands. Very few "trolls" have had any substantive contact with Chris and even fewer have done anything that had any meaningful consequence.

Trolling of Chris, with one exception I can think of, has never come close to being "abusive". Trolls contact Chris, and Chris contacts them back and goes along with it. It's not like Chris was being held at gunpoint to produce content. His ego caused him to relish the attention, and to this day he believes himself a bonafide celebrity. These trolling sagas rarely have any lasting impact on Chris - he has never had his "heart broken" by a troll girlfriend, nor have trolls impacted his life in any significant capacity. Chris' problems are entirely of his own making. His legal troubles are not even tangentially related to trolls.

 

[zap2theextreme]

Chris is neither good nor bad he's just Chris. Nobody here wishes harm to him or wants to troll him in any way. The extent to which 99% of the people here go when it comes to interacting with Chris is browsing his facebook and posting about him in these forums.

 

[P-Logic]

Panpizza, I agree with almost everything in your post. But I think the media would present the facts differently. Since when have they told the truth?

 

[Lysistrata]

I doubt the woman in red is a reporter. Chris's case really seems like it'd be too banal to anyone outside the Christorical bubble to merit any attention, certainly not enough to be reported on. So all this talk of reporters spinning yarns about Chris and the trolls is probably needless.

 

[P-Logic]

No, she is a reporter. We've been in touch. She's not pulitzer prize material but she writes for a well known publication and, from what she's said, her editor is pretty interested in writing a feature about the whole Chris thing that is very sympathetic.

 

[Subconcious Offense]

Panpizza, I agree with almost everything in your post. But I think the media would present the facts differently. Since when have they told the truth?

Just so you know, your incentive for people to stop paying attention to Chris is because the media will spin it around, but then you go ahead and admit that the media will spin it around regardless anyway.

No, she is a reporter. We've been in touch. She's not pulitzer prize material but she writes for a well known publication and, from what she's said, her editor is pretty interested in writing a feature about the whole Chris thing that is very sympathetic.

Then why are you pointing fingers at everyone here? False sense of fame is the last thing Chris needs. If anybody is being a troll right now it's her editor trying to give Chris a false sense of fame.

 

[Lalala]

If an article is written it'll be a morbid curiosity for most, something that makes them shake their heads and say "oh how terrible" for five minutes and then keep eating their breakfast. There'll probably be some form of petition that will achieve bugger all and there'll be a new influx of people coming here to tell us we're all meanie pants. And Christine will feel validated and use this as a bragging point from now on but ultimately achieve nothing from it. Chill guys, this is a storm in a teacup, it'll pass.

 

[MrsFrizzle]

No, she is a reporter. We've been in touch. She's not pulitzer prize material but she writes for a well known publication and, from what she's said, her editor is pretty interested in writing a feature about the whole Chris thing that is very sympathetic.

Someone who met the reporter at a previous Chris court date said the reporter and the scoldy woman in red are two different people. So maybe the reporter was at this court date also, and Rammspieler didn't film her? I can't imagine that there are two reporters.

 

[timtommy]

Honestly? I think she wouldn't react very strongly. For one thing, the content isn't that bad. It's just disgusting, juvenile and pathetic. It doesn't justify a whole army of people on the Internet watching and cataloguing his every move. No one is ever going to go "It's completely unremarkable that thousands of people stalk, deceive and torment this guy as a hobby because he's not a gentleman." C'mon man, think about it.



Probably have the impression that he's a deeply troubled man with mental health issues.

I know that the consensus here is that Chris is an evil man who deserves all the misery that is coming to him, and more besides. But honestly, normal people aren't going to see it like that. The guy drew a stupid picture and was a cunt to a girl who was taking advantage of him anyway. You guys are talking like it will erase all sympathy for him, like he molested a child. Even if it did make people stop pitying him, it still wouldn't make sense for hundreds of strangers to spend hours cataloguing the banal minutiae of his life.

People on both sides of the issue make the mistake of totting up Chris' wrongdoings and weighing it against the shit that has happened to him.

That's not how the world works.

Like everyone else on the face of the planet, Chris has had some lucky breaks and some unlucky ones. He has had people do really shitty things to him. He has had random bad events happen to him. On the other hand, he has had people who really cut him a break. And some really nice pieces of luck fell in his lap.

You can focus on the one side and say that Chris is a lucky son of a bitch because he has gotten away with light sentences for a few crimes, gets a cheque from the government for doing nothing, and hasn't faced major consequences for being obnoxious or creepy.

Or you can focus on the other side and say that Chris has had some really bad breaks. He was born with autism. He lives with a manipulative, crazy, hoarding mother. He has been made a laughingstock of the internet. His house burnt down.

The fact is both are true. And there is no good way of weighing one against the other. And neither explains the first thing about why people follow Chris.

People follow Chris for one reason and one reason only. He is funny and says and does some fucked up, hilarious things. We shouldn't delude ourselves that it is anything else.

 

[Rammspieler]

No, she is a reporter. We've been in touch. She's not pulitzer prize material but she writes for a well known publication and, from what she's said, her editor is pretty interested in writing a feature about the whole Chris thing that is very sympathetic.

Now it's my turn to be the one asking the questions.

So how exactly did you come into contact with this person?

Are we talking about the reporter that @Lipitor encountered or the "Lady in Red" that tried to bullshit me into not filming Chris?